I am disappointed at the amount of comments from people attacking his appearance etc. Please rise above being like that. Debates like this are just fun for the sake of them. Enjoy it for what it is and don't be hateful.

@sofknupbeat

Жыл бұрын

Good guy Karl.

@Singingnoob-3minutesdirty

Жыл бұрын

Attack the argument, not the person

@blatantslander

Жыл бұрын

Idk bro I kinda like dissing about appearances

@Singingnoob-3minutesdirty

Жыл бұрын

@@blatantslander anime pfp

@blatantslander

Жыл бұрын

@@Singingnoob-3minutesdirty Can't we do both

He isn't a collector. he is an investor and as an investor he will do anything to protect the value of his investment including lie and defame

@JohnSmith-kb4re

Жыл бұрын

Which is why they should be purged

@lolschrauber

Жыл бұрын

People hate being called that. I remember the same thing happening to pokemon card collectors

@asteroidrules

Жыл бұрын

Until he's dumped his bags, because as soon as the dump of a pump and dump hits suddenly all the cheerleaders fall silent.

@akba666

Жыл бұрын

He's not an investor, he's a speculator, which is worse.

@spiritbx1337

Жыл бұрын

@@lolschrauber I mean, child molesters also hate being called child molesters, but what people like to be called is irrelevant to what they are...

If 1 video by a KZreadr causes your entire business to fail, then it was a business built on sand.

@ByzantineDarkwraith

Жыл бұрын

As a sand retailer, I resent this statement.

@Diggler569

Жыл бұрын

@@ByzantineDarkwraith As someone who builds sandboxes for kids as a side hustle: Where is my damn sand? I been waiting weeks

@LiarraSniffles_X3

Жыл бұрын

@@Diggler569 As someone who recently stole over $20,000 in sand from the back of a truck: Hey, uh, sucks about the sand. I hope you get it soon.

@ronyrubinov7449

Жыл бұрын

@@LiarraSniffles_X3 as the driver on the truck, you got me fired

@oisyn-

Жыл бұрын

@@ronyrubinov7449 As the kid just wanting to play in a sandbox: wheeeeeeeeeeeh 😭

That dude has the most infuriating, manipulative, and childish editing I have ever seen. Even without context, I'd hate him on that sole characteristic

@Oberky

3 ай бұрын

That is exactly what I thought already at the beginning of his video lmao

@NaanosVEVO

Ай бұрын

it’s literally like he’s trying to dangle keys in front of your face. It’s almost insulting just to watch, very hard to believe he has a fan base

@ChrisDelChris

Ай бұрын

He talks at 75% speed and like he’s addressing a classroom of toddlers.

@BodywiseMustard

Ай бұрын

Oh god, yeah I just got to the 3 minute mark. I can't bear his speaking style.

@ECP90

4 күн бұрын

Also his way of speaking too. He isn’t good at lying.

"Rip open King Tut's sarcophagus because beds are meant to be laid in" SIR that is a COFFIN and there's ALREADY A CORPSE OCCUPYING IT that is such a ridiculous attempt at an argument lmao

@transorm987

Ай бұрын

Not to even mention that they...opened the coffin and removed the mummy at various points, so it's an even worse comparison

@pointyorb

14 күн бұрын

Coffins are meant to contain dead people. A real collector would have not put a corpse in there in the first place.

To me, the fact he took the time to alter clips and then refuted the altered clips shows actual malice and is the most disgusting part of it. At that point, it's not grasping at straws, it's manipulation.

@Melsharpe95

Жыл бұрын

Yes, when you're commenting on manipulated clips to "prove" your point it's because you didn't have a point in the first place. He knew exactly what he was doing. That's not accidental.

@magikarpusedsplash8881

Жыл бұрын

​@@Melsharpe95 I am playing the devil's advocate here, but consider he has the viewpoint of believing the inflated value to be actual: Would he not edit it down to the words that he think are most relevant to his argument, seeing integral parts as irrelevant? This would make sense considering how consistently he seems to miss Karl's points, he could simply have poor judgment/reasoning. Again, that is devil's advocacy, but being manipulative doesn't make him smart either and he may genuinely believe in some of his points even if he is intentionally lying and/or defaming Karl.

@Melsharpe95

Жыл бұрын

@@magikarpusedsplash8881 When you edit a person's comment in such a way as to say the exact opposite of what they said- that's not accidental. It even goes beyond cherry picking. It's misrepresentation. You're probably right in that he's not a critical thinker in the proper sense. After all it looks like his videos usually get around 500 views so I think he was just making a hot-take reaction video. Unfortunately he couldn't find evidence to support his position so decided to "create" some that did. It's also unfortunate because the guy just seems like some random channel just posting about what they like and has now drawn all this negative attention.

@ruolbu

Жыл бұрын

The question ist always, are they incompetent or malicious? When someone cuts content this accurately and thereby misrepresents the actual statement, incompetence becomes highly unlikely and malicious intent is all that remains.

@EdwardHowton

Жыл бұрын

A smart prosecutor would use this in court to win their case against a scammer. A smart judge wouldn't need a second look at the case to use this to declare a guilty verdict. Bet you a nickel nobody's smart. Although... considering the beautiful comedy in the Alex Jones trials, I'd LOVE to lose that bet. PleasepleasePLEASE.

Collectors are happy when prices drop because they can add to their collections. Speculators are happy when prices climb because they can leverage their investments. They are not the same people. They are two very different people sharing a market, one out of love, one out of greed.

@theMansalad

Жыл бұрын

I'd be so happy if all my games were suddenly worth nothing

@tosspot1305

Жыл бұрын

I collect vinyl and the same applies.. You see greedy stores pushing up prices of vinyl that just isn't worth what they're asking. It'll sit there for years with no one buying it however I'd buy it immediately if it was reasonably priced

@minimalchill

Жыл бұрын

@@theMansalad I’m literally a video game reseller and I tell all of my customers frequently that these games values are ridiculous. I do what I can do give deals where it makes sense. I’ve been a collector for 20+ years at this point (just turned 35) and what always made collecting fun was the awesome amount of games you could get for affordable prices, especially compared to buying them new upon release. If games plummeted in value, the likelihood of my business continuing with games as the focus (profit wise) would definitely shift. I’d start pushing stuff with greater margins. But man would I be happy for myself & gamers alike. I could get cheap games for myself again without having to buy big ass lots, pick out what I want, and then take months to flip the rest.

@A..D..D

Жыл бұрын

@@theMansalad me too

@rcast002

Жыл бұрын

I just want to buy more games for my collection without having to decide if It’s going to put me in a tough spot this month with rent

I'm not going to trust anyone who says "we used to champion our heroes" while showing a picture of Hulk Hogan as an example. Hulk Hogan is the reason Hulk Hogan is no longer "championed"

@AlfieClark-ww9ox

3 ай бұрын

his champion is hulk hogan? hm, the amount of lying in his video seems to make a lot more sense now 😌 i wonder if he was almost the bassist for Metallica too

@Robert-nu4vc

3 ай бұрын

Who is your hero? Child predator creepy Joe?

@aakashkumar-ft8tg

3 ай бұрын

That's why he made the video like that BROTHER!

@Fredrickthe2nd

27 күн бұрын

What did Hulk Hogan do

@Rain-mw9du

22 күн бұрын

@@Fredrickthe2ndracism and it seems like lying is his only way to communicate with others

My dad gave me some valuble advice: "There are two types of people, people who pronounce it Mario, & people who pronounce it as Mayrio. Never trust anyone who pronounces it Mayrio"

@swordsmancs

3 ай бұрын

Words to live by

@NotBedwarsDad

Ай бұрын

I say Mayrio and I’m not at all trustworthy so those are words to live by

@SweetheartQuest

16 күн бұрын

italian pronunciation vs anglicized speech

@MrMadvillan

14 күн бұрын

haha like mozzarel?!

@UriahStuff

14 күн бұрын

Guess I can’t trust Thomas Game Docs

"Jobst is just doing this for profit" ...later... "There's nothing wrong with me and others doing these things for profit." Way to argue against himself.

@tankerd1847

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he said that and you can see all this video games he's sponging up hoping to resell later and admits that's his motivation. Yeah, ok bro

@iliakatster

Жыл бұрын

Theres "profit" *shakes head* And "Profit" *smiles and nods enthusiastically*

@priestfan81

Жыл бұрын

A self-detonating ahhhhhgument.

@williamdavila6702

Жыл бұрын

everyone wants profit

@forickgrimaldus8301

Жыл бұрын

Expecting logic from a pissed off Speculator is like expecting logic from a Casino whale, his is likely just pissed off at Karl for his loss in profits trying to make money out of the bubble, which is really all on him.

When he says "real" collectors, he means speculative investors. The actual real collectors saw one of the best selling, common games of all time sell for millions and thought, "That doesn't seem right". But Karl went and dove into this head first, did a bunch of frankly excellent research, and published it. Then immediately, people were trying to discredit and cancel him. This was an important piece of reporting, and the backlash only reinforces that. Nobody likes to be left holding the bag, but that is a risk you should be prepared for when speculating on any type of volatile market.

@msmyrk

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and anyone barracking for collectable price increases are speculators by definition. Real collectors surely want the prices to be stable so they can afford to continue collecting.

@forickgrimaldus8301

Жыл бұрын

@@msmyrk also regular Investors would have probably been indifferent to the stocks deflating and normalising so yeah this guy is likely a Speculator and is likely lossing Profits perhaps even a lot of profits.

@PrinceDinoboy

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I was already casually collecting video games from a very young age. The only reason I would care about the market is so I don't get ripped off with outrageous prices. I don't care about rising and falling prices so I can sell them later, I care about that so I am able know if I am getting a good deal. I think that buying super common games for more than 3 times their original retail price is ridiculous. I buy games that came with a case with it because I wasn't the game to be protected so I can play it. I am a collector that wouldn't be opposed to selling games i no longer want. That is collecting. Buying games only for the sake of profit is not collecting. It's investment.

@ZeranZeran

Жыл бұрын

he acts so "holier than thou" its strange he thought his video would appeal to anyone he needs to learn to drop his ego, but I don't think he's capable of doing that.

@barowt

Жыл бұрын

What's going to be next, the vintage laptop and computer scene? If enough people bought enough of the stuff that's goes on the market, they'd control old PC part prices..

The thing that pisses me off the most about the guy is the fact he called a sarcophagus a bed, tbh. Like wasn't he taught in history class that they are coffins??

@cyanthrope

8 ай бұрын

which creates the argument of "if you owned a sarcophagus, would you want to be buried in it?" To which the answer is, obviously, yes, who wouldn't?

@velvetkiss8014

8 ай бұрын

That comment even got me. For 5 seconds I'm like "Ah yes I guess It could make a neat bed I guess." Followed by. "Wait! Is baldy basics for real? That's a bed you never leave, that's a coffin."

@levievil9220

Ай бұрын

@@velvetkiss8014lol on the calling him baldy basics

@artsyscrub3226

Ай бұрын

@@velvetkiss8014 Hey baldys basics does something good this andrew tate wanna be is doing nothing

Leave it to NFTbros to ruining people's hobbies.

@niggawtf123

11 ай бұрын

anything for shekels 🤷‍♂️

@eightcoins4401

7 ай бұрын

LOL of course its people from the NFT scene. Scammers will scam.

@justanotheranimeprofilepic

7 ай бұрын

They've been doing it for years. NFTs were just they're highest grossing scam

@skeletaltrees

5 ай бұрын

it’s all ai now 🙄

@SkxllKidd

5 ай бұрын

@@justanotheranimeprofilepic We're so early lmao

“This guy insults my very being to the core, but please don’t attack or harass him. I don’t want to be the cause to spark up hate.” Words from an Absolute Legend

@projektvirus5451

Жыл бұрын

Agreed good on Karl for maintaining the high road. the internet is the internet tho, there have been and will always be the "for the lulz" crowd. (i am aware that reference dates myself but point still stands)

@chriswelcome8102

Жыл бұрын

From*

@tthompson4768

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@kathypierson1128

Жыл бұрын

Karl is a legend, but lets not be fanatic here. He did it to cover his own ass

@joelhodoborgas

Жыл бұрын

@@kathypierson1128 Hi, that does not make sense. thanks and have a great day.

The thing that really gets me is that this guy is basically stating that video game collecting is a worthless hobby unless you can sell your collection for millions of dollars. Video game collecting isn’t about who has the more expensive game, collecting in general is about collecting something your passionate about

@d.n4203

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Which is why he isn't a collector, he's an investor.

@AtariBorn

Жыл бұрын

@@d.n4203 He's an opportunist. He's only interested in investing in games because of the speculative value they will have in the future. Collecting for 10 years in something that has exploded in the last 10 years is his tell. We, as in the gaming community, would never know who this guy was, had Cabbage Patch Kids exploded in popularity, the way retro gaming did.

@Rabbit-the-One

Жыл бұрын

I kinda got that impression too.

@Rabbit-the-One

Жыл бұрын

Did he have a channel before this video?

@AtariBorn

Жыл бұрын

@@Rabbit-the-One Evidently yes, but he blew that.

"Do I look like a puppet to you?" Yes, like Pinocchio to be exact.

@Raggsocka

2 ай бұрын

Except that his nose would have been a lot longer.

@flamboyantroach

2 ай бұрын

he just wanted to be a real boy..

@potatog4322

Ай бұрын

He loses a strand of hair every time he lies

@WinstonSmith685

Ай бұрын

I was thinking "The Hood" from Thunderbirds.

@camber_courtney5250

27 күн бұрын

​@@potatog4322💀💀

When you showed the actual context of Pat's quote that was the confirmation that I needed that this guy is intentionally lying. You nailed him to a board. Keep up the great content.

@reicherruschach3727

10 ай бұрын

Pat Contri is a notorious scam artist. The easiest way to tell if he's lying is to look at his mouth. If it's open, he's lying.

@TriAzF

7 ай бұрын

@@reicherruschach3727Even if that is true it doesn’t at all change the original commenters point or diminish it. Pats quote was taken out of context, regardless of whether or not you agree with his full quote, or trust pat as a person, it doesn’t change the fact that Mad Dog intentionally cut the quote to make it seem like pat was saying something else, which is scummy and shows that he doesn’t actually have a legitimate argument to make to discredit him.

@reicherruschach3727

7 ай бұрын

​@@TriAzFThat is true indeed. You don't need to manipulate things to make Contri look dishonest; he already does enough disingenuous things on his own.

@nissan_skyline

7 ай бұрын

I can't really tell if he's intentionally lying or if he's just ignorant and doesn't know what he's talking about. Cause the lies he tells are embarrassing considering how easily they can be debunked. Like, he completely missed the point behind why marketing your own product without disclosing your relationship to the company (if you have one) is unethical and illegal when there are FTC laws that clearly state why. Plus, he seems to misinterpret a lot of things that Karl says and doesn't even understand what the video is about. He thinks Karl is attacking the entire graded video game industry, community and collectors when his video mainly focuses on two companies and their unethical and manipulative business practices. I really don't know how he managed to overlook this. Perhaps he's just not very intelligent.

@arturoharvey9733

6 ай бұрын

@@nissan_skylineI’m pretty sure he’s lying because those things you pointed out. I’m 26mins through Karl’s video and I haven’t heard that man discuss or refute one actual point that Karl made. He’s barely discussing the same topic, instead he goes on attacking his straw man and making implications about Karl. I don’t want to believe that a man that can speak so well and seems to be at least moderately successful, could watch Karl’s video and so clearly miss the point. Maybe I can chalk it up to him being so close to the situation and emotionally invested that he subconsciously blocked out the point of the video because it would make him feel like his was played for a fool if he was/is a regular patron of Wata and Heritage. But even then, I would expect him to defend those companies directly if that were the case and he hasn’t referenced them or their owners yet. Edit: finished the video; he did start referencing Wata and some of Karl’s actual points but he straight up lied about all of them. Yeah, this dude was lying the whole time.

The way he flip-flops between "Karl Jobst is going to completely ruin us" and "Karl Jobst is a nobody not even worth considering" in the same breath is infuriating at times. He can't even pick one lie and stick with it...

@Kokuswolf

Жыл бұрын

9:28 I like how he asks "But who is Karl Jobs". But then I wondered who this bald guy is and what makes him the ultimate authority on sealed video game market? I mean, I've been collecting over 20 Years now and I've never heard of him before this day. Asking around the hobby, nobody has. Odd isn't it?

@Furry-iousNews

Жыл бұрын

It's a classic rhetorical device to paint one's foes as "foes" They are both great and terrible while being weak and meaningless.

@igorpedro8995

Жыл бұрын

Best faith interpretation that I can do, you could see this as "he has a large audience that could interfere in the space" and "he's a nobody in the hobby/business, so we shouldn't listen to him" Still, both are shit arguments that don't matter and he shouldn't have used them.

@the1truepickaxe298

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like fascists must overestimate and underestimate their enemies at the same time

@randomyoutuber4189

Жыл бұрын

@@the1truepickaxe298 _A wild fascist argument appeared!_

And he just now put his entire channel on private. Clearly this wasn’t a hill he was ready to die on. Great job 👍

@jpad0929

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. He received 90% dislike rate on his video. We won boys :D

@bleedorange1998

Жыл бұрын

@@jpad0929 How can you tell the ratio when the dislike number is gone?

@justanothercommentercarryo8367

Жыл бұрын

@@bleedorange1998 must've seen it before the shutdown.

@mangosteen508

Жыл бұрын

@@bleedorange1998 there are apps that let you see it still. it's available from the youtube API in my understanding and the app can surface it and integrate it in the frontend

@williamfoster2681

Жыл бұрын

Nothing says “I’m right” quite like removing your videos from the public eye.

When I heard the way he pronounced "Mario", I instantly knew he wasn't a gamer or game collector for the sake of gaming.

@olivermensinger6022

9 ай бұрын

Same

@liammcnicholas918

8 ай бұрын

Many British people pronounce Mario that way….and Whang (who is ironically from Brooklyn)

@clarissa8477

7 ай бұрын

I’m not even a collector or a gamer and it made me cringe

@artsyscrub3226

Ай бұрын

@@liammcnicholas918 I have never heard a british person pronounce it like this once.

@David-ud9ju

14 күн бұрын

The guy's an idiot, but I don't know why there's criticism about his pronunciation of Mario; I didn't even notice that and it's just his accent saying Mario. He sounds like an American saying Mario to me. If I were to do a stereotypical American accent, I'd pronounce it Merio as well, because that's what Americans sound like. I guess some Americans might say Mahrio too. I don't know; it's just his accent.

For those who want to know what happened to 'Mad Dog'... He ran, with his tail between his legs - deleted his channel and all its videos and privated his instagram. I like to picture that smug grin being wiped off his face after watching this video.

@txwering7380

7 ай бұрын

Lmfao. Thanks man, was looking for this

@HopOffTheBS

6 ай бұрын

No he didn't? The channel is still up, I didnt see the video but he also has a video where they both have a chat about the video and stuff

@jessierabbit

4 ай бұрын

​@ronnightingale6264 His channel was private at one point, so if OP had tried to look it up, they wouldn't have been able to find it. He hasn't posted in 10 months, so I'd say he ran.

@artsyscrub3226

Ай бұрын

@@HopOffTheBS He's not uploaded since this video, id call that running with his tal bwtween his legs

@HopOffTheBS

Ай бұрын

@@artsyscrub3226 That is factually not true, this video was uploaded on the 18th of September 2022, Mad Dog uploaded a video talking to Karl on the 21st Sept 2022 and Mad Dog's last video was uploaded on the 9th of June 2023. I'm sure to some him deleting everything would have been a fun outcome, but Karl cares about more than that.

I love how he attacks your "dramatic music and narrative tone" while having the most aggressively manipulative and dramatic editing I've seen outside of a narrative critical social media post within a live action teens movie.

@PrimroseParadox

Жыл бұрын

For real. The incessant foghorns and meme edits make him sound absolutely juvenile. Who's his audience meant to be, five year olds?

@Yecze

Жыл бұрын

@@PrimroseParadoxthere’s more young children in KZread than you think

@dieSpinnt

Жыл бұрын

Hey Joe! Stop looking for a balanced story/view ... as he told. We have to fit his stereotypes! Hehehehhee This guy is really something special. Not only the strawmen, but also these useless red herrings like mentioned by you, Joe. This narrow and strange concentration about the form/presentation (the music/tone) and not the content (the actual points, Karl made) can only arise from the mind of a child. If a stutterer reports that your car is burning ... you get out ... fast! This guy instead wants to discuss stuttering. And the icing of the cake is that he is first insulting Carl and immediately after that his viewers, us. What a clown. **facepalm** (I really don't want to know how this guy did come to wealth ...)

@AfricanLionBat

Жыл бұрын

I hate the way he pronounced Mario. It's Mah Ree Yo not Mare ee yo. Instantly lost credibility.

@AngryK1tty

Жыл бұрын

@@AfricanLionBatIt’s a me, Mary yo

I don’t know what’s worse: the fact that the entire video boils down to him saying “waaah you foiled my plans, now I’m gonna whine about it”; or the fact that it’s so littered with memes and cartoony edits that it’s literally impossible to take anything he says seriously.

@TheLastApostle

9 ай бұрын

Dont forget stock photos and videos

@olivermensinger6022

8 ай бұрын

Yes

38:00 that guy lost all credibility at that exact moment. That cut was intentional and proves he's being deceptive.

He was so confident in his argument that he has taken down every piece of his content online.

@PubeStache

Жыл бұрын

That's weird..

@stephenmanuel9860

Жыл бұрын

And nothing of value was lost.

@Sypaka

Жыл бұрын

He did? Seriously? Who was that anyway?

@ToonCatTV

Жыл бұрын

Pffft wow

@Yungbeck

Жыл бұрын

Lost media andy

His response felt like "You're no real gangster, you have no idea about extortion, so leave us honest criminals alone!!"

@OfLaSoul

Жыл бұрын

lmao

“Priceless lady and the tramp poster worth 40,000 dollars” something seems off here

@bluedistortions

3 ай бұрын

You're right. It was another faked story. I forget what happened, but it wasn't how it was reported.

@Raggsocka

2 ай бұрын

The only priceless thing was that blunder.

@pointyorb

14 күн бұрын

Shrodinger's price

I know I'm late to the party, but one of my favorite things about you is how unbiased you are and how much time and effort you put into Investigations, even if it means they come at you legally. Keep up the amazing work you absolute legend

My favourite piece of irony that locked my attention was how that guy kept slamming you for using click-baiting practices while simultaneously editing his video like a 16 yr old's KZread debut 'prank gone sexual' video

@TheLukeHines

Жыл бұрын

When he said something along the lines of “look past the dramatic music” about Karl’s video, meanwhile he seemingly downloaded the attack ad sound effect starter pack.

@lowman5893

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLukeHines Do Karl's videos even have music outside of the sounds of a given clip he may be showing?

@MaskedDeath_

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. In the beginning Karl said his video is going to make that guy's video look bad, but for me that was not the case. They guy himself made his video look bad. It's honestly so terrible I had to take breaks during watching.

@Trimint123

Жыл бұрын

@@MaskedDeath_ Mate, it makes me cringe in just 45 seconds in. And watching further didn't get any better either.

@Havok0159

Жыл бұрын

And that lighting. Was he trying to be cute thinking that scary red would subconsciously make you mad? His video did made me mad, subconsciously and consciously, but the red did nothing. The way he talked on the other hand made me feel like he was insulting my intelligence. Then he finished making his point proving that he was indeed insulting my intelligence.

"You know who's a great soft target for me to lie about in my video? Karl Jobst. The guy who literally debunks and archives hoaxes, cheats, and lies." 🙄

@gurmyigoll3535

Жыл бұрын

"Clearly this is a good idea, and will in no way backfire against me."

@fernando4959

Жыл бұрын

Clueless

@retrokoh

Жыл бұрын

The one guy that Billy Mitchell couldn't make back down. Yea, that's the target I wanna go after empty-handed🤷

His voice manages to be so ingenuine yet so smug at the same time. I didn't think it could be possible.

Okay so watching people lie like this is so painful and I’m really glad that you replied so beautifully. Honestly, I enjoy people reasonably responding to deceitful videos, it just feels good to know that lies like this don’t just stand without question.

I feel a little embarrassed every time he confidently believes he makes a good point.

@ProfessorVitale

Жыл бұрын

ditto

@Mephitinae

Жыл бұрын

He knows he's talking BS, but he doesn't care as long as the video gets exposure. If he manages to convince even one dope to pay him a million dollars for a sealed game, then it's a huge W.

@nickfifteen

Жыл бұрын

This is pure speculation and not based on anything other than an idea I pulled out of my ass... but I would not be surprised if it's later revealed that his video was made only because he was secretly hired by WATA Games to make an "independently created" video supprting them. I can't think of very many people who would simp for a company as much as this guy did, and out of the goodness of their own hearts.

@whitaker_

Жыл бұрын

He's a salesman, he knows its BS

@txwering7380

Жыл бұрын

@@nickfifteen I am not by any means saying that you are wrong (as I am just speculating too), but I do want to say that he has a literal wall of WATA sealed games behind him... that is very good reason to make a video like this. That being said, I truly think that it is a combination of yours too. I think he was hired, or atleast heavily influenced, by WATA and the fact that he also had prior motivation drove him to commit.

How on earth is Karl able to remain so calm in the face of such bad-faith arguments? It's infuriating that anyone thinks that guy is credible.

@RadikAlice

Жыл бұрын

After being sued by Billy "World's best cheater" Mitchell and Todd "Todgers" Rogers, everything else are small fries

@TheOrichalcon

Жыл бұрын

Karl has true, citable facts and examples on his side. It's much easier to remain calm when you know you're right. I'd expect Karl to be excited to make these kinds of videos as it's a thrill to call people out with factual evidence.

@achabotte

Жыл бұрын

Read between the lines, As much as he tries to rise above it there are times he lets it get to him.

@gabrote42

Жыл бұрын

By training, enduring for years, then doing 12 takes for the video. He slips once in a while but overall he does very well

@jordan_cagle

Жыл бұрын

For one we can’t see his attempts at each clip. Think about how he is human. No human is perfect. I don’t know when that video he is criticizing came out, but it was not just a week ago, he had time to get angry about it then think it through. He had the time to organize himself and do the research and show how the video is wrong. I would guess that we don’t see the whole original video so he could have some parts that he did not find enough to discredit it, but he did his homework.

33:40 "i had no money ... thank god my brother in law was in town for passover ... he told me to start a hedge fund" violence

I like the bit about Tutankhamen's sarcophagus because no, sarcophagi are not meant to be slept in. They're coffins.

"The trick is to turn something no one would care about into something exciting." As someone who isn't particularly interested in speedruns, I can say you have mastered this art. Not many people can do that.

@learntooilpaint

Жыл бұрын

I would say there are two Karl is one, the other is Goose , I think Goise is arguably the best in a much narrower niche

@AlbRomano

Жыл бұрын

@@learntooilpaint also, summoning salt, for his ability to craft a story around a game's speed run history.

@iculas

Жыл бұрын

Very much this.

@SmogginMog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I liked occasionally searching and watching for glitch videos - but Karl's channel drew me in with his levelheaded commentary.

@learntooilpaint

Жыл бұрын

@@SmogginMog I got into Goose earlier who has a very nice storytelling style, with a good narration voice. Jobst appeared in many of those videos and I heard of him on there

The fact that they made a video specifically calling you out Karl, means you're on point, and hitting all the right nerves.

@SGFTI

Жыл бұрын

I do agree that he uses a lot of clickbaity bullshit in his titles though, this one included. I know that's part of the youtube game, but it is still gross.

@bernardstrauss1183

Жыл бұрын

@@SGFTI ok scammer.

@kainewolfe2109

Жыл бұрын

@@SGFTI you need to silence yourself

@HappyMealBieber

Жыл бұрын

Karl dismantled their racket . Wata games makes untold amounts of money for making bogus non sense ratings.Its silly. This guys attitude towards Karl is just as bad and is indicative of what they are all trying to do. They thought they were clever but the house of cards they built just got exposed for millions of people to see

@L4sket

Жыл бұрын

@@SGFTI How is this clickbait? In this video, a video game collector called him a fraud, and that's exactly the title of the video.

Also rich people criticising ways other people make money is rich in itself. Karl makes an honest living. These investors don’t know what the meaning of the word “honesty”.

@dorktriogamer2865

Ай бұрын

Yeah that's really rich, i didn't even think of that

The fact that hyperinflation in only months is described as a “fairy tale market” so directly demonstrates this persons perspective. That is a statement made by a speculator, not an enthusiast.

As a supporter of over 2 years now, can confirm that I am an idiot not here for fair and honest reporting. I'm just here for the chocolate ad discounts 🍫

@henryhardfoot

Жыл бұрын

AHA!! GOTCHA!!!

@icecreamcake5381

Жыл бұрын

If that guy ever makes a response to this video, I can imagine him taking a screenshot of this comment and using it as evidence to prove his argument against Karl 😂

@giddy4600

Жыл бұрын

@@icecreamcake5381 Fr we gonna be famous in a few months

@cwingee

Жыл бұрын

@@icecreamcake5381 i hope he includes me in the screenshot

@TheSCBGeneral

Жыл бұрын

@@icecreamcake5381 I doubt he will. He privated his entire channel.

That collector guy has pretty much the EXACT same energy as those people that defend NFTs on the Internet. It's almost like this type of dishonesty is often practiced by the same types of people, no matter where you look.

@JT-hk9ur

Жыл бұрын

What is "dishonest" about NFTs?

@GretgorPooper

Жыл бұрын

@@JT-hk9ur paying to "own" something that you have no copyright over in hopes you can "sell" it to someone for a high price is very close to being the quintessential example of a scam. It's literally a market that involves buying and selling stuff that has no inherent value whatsoever. At least old school stocks are associated with businesses that actually do something. People who try to get people into buying NFTs are pretty much the 2020s equivalent of pyramid scheme flingers.

@too1leasy

Жыл бұрын

@@JT-hk9ur They're a ponzi scheme

@sonoda944

Жыл бұрын

@@JT-hk9ur scam, art-theft, environmental issue, money-laundering, the list goes on

@alexwalker5716

Жыл бұрын

@@JT-hk9ur Claiming they have any real value for one thing. It's like buying a ticket to the Louvre and claiming you own the Mona Lisa. Except that ticket costs millions of euros instead of the 15 that everyone else pays. And it emits toxic gas. And instead of a one of a kind by Leonardo da Vinci, the painting was one of hundreds of nearly identical copies made by someone who never painted anything before they wanted to get rich off of it. And that person had less artistic skill that a four year old. (Okay this part is just opinion, but the rest is basically how it works)

Regardless of the matter at hand, twisting other's statement out of context is inexcusable. People like that don't deserve trust. No one should be buying anything from that "collector".

Look at "The Dutch tulip mania" from the 1630s. Someone selling tulips started a frenzy where common people were sinking their life savings into tulip bulbs that were artificially inflated. By the time it was over a few years later people were in the poor house. If the right person tells you something has value and enough people believe it you can have an over inflated market for anything

@grahamfisher5436

Жыл бұрын

And Diamonds too 🔹 And potatoes 🥔 And thats how, fashions and fads work too

@user-zh9qc8my3e

Ай бұрын

He actually talks about this at the very beginning of the first video of this series

My lord that guy is insufferable, his condescending, mocking "holier than thou" attitude is brutal. At no point did he discredit a single segment of your video.

@DivineBanana

Жыл бұрын

He should take up apologetics, he would be good at it

@djangofett4879

Жыл бұрын

it's funny that he showed Bill Maher in the video when describing a strawman argument. Bill Maher who is now loved by Fox News and is praising himself as the ultimate truth teller, meanwhile he is an just an out of touch stereotypical center right boomer douche who loves beating up on strawmen.

@DLockholm

Жыл бұрын

The only reason that I watched that guy speaking is because of Karl, otherwise I would completely click out of that asshole video, his way of speaking is just disgusting to watch, his sense of moral superiority makes me want to vomit.

@lizzfrmhon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought the same.

@phud69

10 ай бұрын

The cadence that he speaks with, paired with the extremely cringe-worthy editing hurts my bones

Instead of engaging with the argument, they: a) misrepresent your point b) make any attack on them an attack on the industry as a whole c) do the "I don't know this person" bit to delegitimize your point without addressing it d) do the "he's making money so he must be lying" bit Politicians do this kind of shit all the time.

@goopah

Жыл бұрын

Great Wealth is the only thing that matters to these people. That clown is likely already a millionaire, but won't be happy until he has more, more, more. He'll end up building a mansion from doing the very little labor of speculating. OR. He'll go broke from speculating. Something tells me he's probably into NFTs and crypto as well. Where only the people who get in early make any money from it, and they do it at the expense of any like-minded sucker that happens to come along later.

@deathdeathrevolution3499

Жыл бұрын

my problems with it are how most of the points he makes don't even relate to the topic at hand. I mean, what does the guy think he's proving by attacking fox 9? and he also attacks the viewer, why would I take him seriously when i'm getting attacked for seeing evidence and changing my opinion based on it? just such an obvious attempt to protect an investment and (i suspect) gain a following from generating more controversy.

@sanechipmunks

11 ай бұрын

Thats the problem of being wrong and knowing it, you can't make a good faith argument.

@Karl Jobst Unfortunately, when people buy a crap car, they take it to a mechanic. The mechanic tells them the car is a lemon and they paid more than it's worth. The person becomes angry with the mechanic. This often how the world works, people become angry with the person who speaks the truth, instead of becoming angry at the problem.

Great video. I remember meeting Silvester McCoy and I asked him to sign a Doctor Who card I had of his Doctor and he was so happy when I asked him to personalise it because it meant I had no interest in selling it. We had a really good chat about the upside and downside of the collectable market.

@rayvenkman2087

2 ай бұрын

Would this be around the time the Big Finish audios started releasing?

My favorite part was when he attacked Pat's credibility and even cited him as Karl's "source" in quotation marks in his clip of Pat's where he takes what he said about Super Mario Bros 3 out of context, but then literally right afterwards he uses Pat as a credible source when he stated his positive opinion on WATA games compared to VGA. Apparently Pat's credibility as a source is only legitimate to him when he states something that he agrees with.

@txag007

Жыл бұрын

I caught that as well.

@lowman5893

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, I believe he was trying to say that Karl was cherry picking Pat's statements which make Wata look bad and ignoring those which may make them look good. This really has nothing to do with whether Pat is a credible authority/source on the matter. Of course this claim is blatantly false and he hypocritically uses the exact same tactic he is accusing Karl of (worse actually since he is splicing clips to try and fabricate context).

How could he take that clip of Pat, cut out the first sentence, and then try and convince us this is not absolutely deceitful on his part? That alone shows he 100% knows he is totally in on the long-con.

@tolindaniel

Жыл бұрын

Guy owes Pat an apology imo

@Skallva

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the fact he tries to discredit Pat as a genuine collector because Pat allegedly said that wrapped games should be unwrapped because they are meant to be played says enough about what kind of a person he is. You can't just have a fun hobby. It's all business in his head.

@RocKM001

Жыл бұрын

The irony is he is basically doing everything he is blaming Karl... specially the whole "Creating click bait videos" and he literally does the lowest common denominator video - ie. response debunk video to ride the coat tails of a much more popular video xD

@LykosMenon

Жыл бұрын

This guy is a clown. Good lord. Him slamming pat like that physically hurt me.

@Trimint123

Жыл бұрын

@@RocKM001 Honestly, he probably just jealous that his channel are so niece than Karl. Lmao

Guy's editing makes me think of when I was an edgy teen and trying to make "the most awesome and dramatic vid ever" (luckily it never got done)

you know what makes me not trust someone in a "debate" like this? when one of the members of the "debate" goes and attacks the character of the other person, INSTEAD of attacking their talking points, INSTEAD of addressing valid data and evidence thats been brought forth, INSTEAD of talking about the facts, they choose to try to discredit the other person.

@TheStarlightKing

7 ай бұрын

Not to mention all the sealed video games he has in the background. Dude has invested a lot. He collects to make money, not because he is passionate about gaming.

That was so cringy to watch. The editing, the smugness, the lies... I don't know how Karl watched it all multiple times to make this video.

@SLRModShop

Жыл бұрын

I grade his smugness 95, top notch stuff! Unbearable to watch. Karl probably hit the nail on the head with his remark, I can't picture adults watching this guy.

@jadenknott

Жыл бұрын

Yeah his cockiness is just unbearable to listen to, like nails on a freaking chalkboard

@asteria9963

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the music. Why do people like him always use that kind of music?

@crazy_man7578

Жыл бұрын

for real, like only watching a snippet of it already making me feel irritated as fuck. I can't imagine how angry I gonna feel if I have to watch the full video.

@SLRModShop

Жыл бұрын

@@crazy_man7578 If you've seen 5 minutes, you've seen it all. Bad arguments all around. I couldn't even be bothered to check how many subscribers the guy has, that's how uninteresting this all is

Karl is such a saint. He dismantled this man’s entire video without insulting or degrading the man and was calm and composed the entire time. Amazing work, Karl.

@dopaminedreams1122

Жыл бұрын

Karl Shapiro calmly DISMANTLES beta males entire Ponzi scheme

@MyNameJefff

Жыл бұрын

@@dopaminedreams1122 Karl “Based and Redpilled” Jobst? Uhhhhh I think so

@brianmcgill9662

Жыл бұрын

you would think hes gods gift to earth the way you fans suck him off

@krodmandoon3479

Жыл бұрын

It would have been super easy, too.

@limeflashlight4101

Жыл бұрын

Agreed but sometimes idiots like the hater he has need to get made fun of

The man couldn't even pronounce "Mario" right, let alone "Karl Jobst"

@olivermensinger6022

8 ай бұрын

His inability to correctly pronounce Mario instantly told me everything I needed to know.

You don't have to apologize for making an honest living. Love your videos

@NeonKnight83

7 ай бұрын

The guy will advertise anything for money, I don't know how "honest" his living is.

I love that he tried to "who?" a literal video game legend.

@Raggsocka

2 ай бұрын

It's no surprise that someone who isn't part of the gaming community wouldn't know who Karl is.

Jobst : Gives out detailed video of how two companies is engaged in a massive scam This dude : Look he is a youtuber, obviously he is lying.

@extract3959

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@lyingcorn

Жыл бұрын

I mean, 99% of the time that logic would have worked lmao

@AliceErishech

Жыл бұрын

The best part about implying Karl's a liar because he's a KZreadr is that this guy is apparently himself a KZreadr. Karl really didn't even need to make a video like this. Most of the guy's points end up getting refuted later on by himself.

It makes no sense that the pandemic created demand for games that you can't even play. Also, you did a great job keeping this objective!

@WinstonSmith685

3 ай бұрын

I know, right? In the pandemic I did indeed get bored and felt a longing for some retro games so I bought the NES and SNES classic editions so I could actually play the games instead of just looking at some sealed boxes sitting on a shelf.

@jasont80

3 ай бұрын

@@WinstonSmith685 You've gone more retro than me... but I'd love to go back and play OG games again, like Zelda, Metroid, SuperMario, etc!

Hi. I am not even close to be fluent in english but 100% props for you.🎉 Fighting/debating manipulative speakers is important thing as there is more and more of them. You're doing a great job at presenting topics as objectively as possible. With subtle imperfections sometimes byt still high level. :)

This man's video is a masterclass in how to announce to a community that you are not part of their community and are only associated with them in order to profit off of them.

@JJFX-

Жыл бұрын

It truly is an amazing example of how shills and con-men operate. He talks down to the same community he pretends to be part of to make them feel insecure. Anyone who fills a video with cheesy stock shots, childish sound effects and quick cuts to back up a serious narrative clearly thinks the audience is stupid. This classic manipulation, which of course is exactly what he accuses Karl of doing at the beginning. This clown would sell out his own grandmother.

@chaimafaghet7343

Жыл бұрын

Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks

@oak7741

Жыл бұрын

@@chaimafaghet7343 What?

@Squiddles_

Жыл бұрын

@@chaimafaghet7343 Care to elaborate?

@jezoa

Жыл бұрын

@@Squiddles_ it’s a meme/joke

"I asked every single video game collector on the planet, and none of them have heard of Karl Jobst." Seems legit. Guy clearly did his research.

@guessowii

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@Solaceon

Жыл бұрын

Problem is, he asked other investors... who aren't watching speedrunning content.

@wreaker5518

Жыл бұрын

Damn, must've missed his email when he asked me lol

@forickgrimaldus8301

Жыл бұрын

@@Solaceon other speculators if he was a legit Investor he wouldn't care if Karl is calling out Wata and Heritage.

@ssisnake

Жыл бұрын

Guess his email went into my spam folder never got one.

It appears mad dog took down his video and had comments turned off beforehand. He is a coward and not worth wasting energy on.

I really like the contrast between Karl's cool, neutral way of presenting his arguments and that collector's cynical, bad faith delivery. Even regardless of the actual arguments, the latter loses all credibility from the get-go.

@ElRectalo

Жыл бұрын

small brain-big effort responses are the best ones.

@ctnc6059

Жыл бұрын

There's also the contrast of Karl's professional presentation and the collector's obnoxious effects. That alone would turn me against them if I didn't know anything about this before now.

@OWnIshiiTrolling

Жыл бұрын

The investor guy lost me with the first wHaCkY eFfEcT wave. You just know immediately that it's style over substance, and that he has no leg to stand on. Meanwhile, Jobst keeps it professional, and has actual rebuttals.

@0neDoomedSpaceMarine

Жыл бұрын

@@ctnc6059 God, yes, his editing is *so* goddamn obnoxious.

@Kyrieru

Жыл бұрын

Yes, went in with an open mind and it comes off like Saul Goodman but without the charisma.

When he described sealed video games as an 'investible asset' it felt like I had a spider-sense that was going off. Real crypto/NFT vibes.

@Thor-Orion

Жыл бұрын

Con artists all have a certain cadence about them.

@nyalan8385

Жыл бұрын

@@Thor-Orion except for the good ones

@felipewerner6670

Жыл бұрын

@@nyalan8385 there is no good ones, only more stupid people.

@Kid_Charlemagne

Жыл бұрын

I could tell he would be a nft scam bro by the crazy look in his eyes.

@mikefarino4368

Жыл бұрын

Investable assets are a real thing. The issue with Crypto and NFT is the market is full of scammers and grifters. Jewelry, watches and things of that nature are Investable assets and are more akin to the video games in this instance. A rare physical item that more people want to own than their are copies available. This guy gives off major scammer vibes, but not because he called it an Investable asset. That's a legitimate term.

I know it’s late but this was so well done man. Wish you and everyone else nothing but the best !

@grahamfisher5436

Жыл бұрын

Karl might want to seriously consider, becoming a "Legal bod'

17:34 using that guys own knowledge he's not a journalist so he can't know what he's talking about. HYPOCRITE CONFIRMED! Love your videos dude.

how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man

@Frightnoodle

Жыл бұрын

'Bald man' might have worked better here, heh heh...

@wolvenar

Жыл бұрын

Always at least one more time. Or so they think.

@GyrateMeHoe

Жыл бұрын

@@Frightnoodle no need to name call, regardless of what he said

@YOEL_44

Жыл бұрын

@@GyrateMeHoe I agree, but I also think it's a better descriptive word to tailor the meme to him

@zeroisnine

Жыл бұрын

@Hansy mad dog collector

For me a collector is easy to identify. They go "Check out this! How cool is this?!" then ramble for the next hour about the history of the item. What they don't do is brag about the future value of a collectible and how much they bought it for because at that point it's not the item they care about but just the value it has or could potentially have which is no different from just throwing actual money on a table and talking about how they are investing it.

@vinzo0913

Жыл бұрын

A real collector only knows the value of someone else's appreciation

@CheshireCad

Жыл бұрын

Kinda like NFTs. They lure you in with neat randomized images that you can "own" via some weird new techno-voodoo. That's nice. I like that part. But then they won't shut up about the resale value and the explosive market potential and why it's a bargain to pay $300 for a link to a jpg.

@Culled

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@NeoGMan64

Жыл бұрын

Good example was when myself and my brother went to a video game store a few weeks ago and me and the guy behind the counter were able to ramble on and explain the history of Night Trap to him since he just thought the cover looked cool.

@manyullyn17

Жыл бұрын

There pretty much are collectors who care about the item and investors who only care about the value of the item but somehow the investors think they are just normal collectors and that it's different from NFTs, Crypto Currency and stuff like that. Don't get me wrong, collectors can also care about the value of something they collect but if you _only_ care about making money from it you're not a collector, you're an investor.

The moment he said "super merio" I stop taking him seriously 😂

He said "Mario" wrong in the first like 10 seconds. I don't think he's played a Mario game in his life.

@moongirl-d9h

Ай бұрын

mario is a real fucking name i dont get it has he never met an italian man

@Nobody_Shroom

Ай бұрын

​@@moongirl-d9h I bet he breaks spaghetti in half

@g4cky

28 күн бұрын

He’s totally spent hours of his life stomping …*looks at hands*…koopas…?

@ImNotGam

28 күн бұрын

Fake collector == whatever that guy's name is I forgot but th3 guy that played Mario.

I find it wild that this man set out with the goal of restoring the legitimacy of the names of game raters and consciously decided "I'm gonna act and edit this video like my target audience is 7 year olds."

@RocketboyX

Жыл бұрын

Because his target audience is made up of crypto bros.

@anonony9081

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's almost impressive how bad the delivery is. It's like he's gone back to 2013 KZread, he's so unfunny

@azharp9391

Жыл бұрын

The kind of person that thinks putting more shit in a video means better editting

@spacebassist

Жыл бұрын

@@RocketboyX ironically I heard that 7 years old is when you achieve self-awareness, so even they're racing ahead of monopoly money bros

@gameboyjsa

Жыл бұрын

He deleted every video on his channel

I almost forgot I'm in that guy's dumb video. Sweet lord the dishonesty on display.

@forgiveman

Жыл бұрын

Hey. Great to see a comment from one of the main affected by the "collector". I hope he deletes his videos and make a public apology about misrepresenting you, Karl, and many other people who got involved there.

@Kayrim_Borlan

Жыл бұрын

@@forgiveman He's made his channel private at least, so that's a good start

@Kayrim_Borlan

Жыл бұрын

@@forgiveman Correction, the channel isn't private, he just deleted all the videos on his channel

@bobbob1876

Жыл бұрын

I'm afraid you won't be able to view such dishonesty in its entirety again-- Mad Dog Collection's has either deleted or privated all his KZread videos.

@adilsonbankai

Жыл бұрын

It's insane to me how much dishonesty he can display. He literally just crops out the start of the phrase and turns what you are saying on the opposite, and show something from the SAME stream that contradicts it to make you sound crazy or something? Holy sh*t, that's insane.

So long story short with this guy... "tell me you didn't watch Karl's video without telling me you didn't watch Karl's video"

34:47 King Tuts sarcophagus is a COFFIN; NOT a bed.

Man really said, with his wall of collected video games behind him, opening the video with how much video game collections are getting to be worth, that Karl was the one doing it for money.

@levievil9220

Жыл бұрын

How much stock do you think he has imma more than 10 million

@salineaddict9850

Жыл бұрын

@@levievil9220 probably around $160-200k. No way he actually has anything that valuable in his collection, he just hopes to. He’s dirt broke, and alone

@levievil9220

Жыл бұрын

@@salineaddict9850 true but probably depends on what games he has

@aegisScale

Жыл бұрын

Speculators love speculating, both on pointless products they think they can sell to unfortunate people and on the motivations of people who call them out (which funnily enough are easy to attribute to them instead).

@lindseylindsey9200

Жыл бұрын

I mean, he’s rich enough to act like people had “nothing to spend their hard-earned dollars on” when the prices of essential goods was rising and making life for regular people hard

karl jobst is a savage. he starts the video with "look i'm about to destroy this dude; the beating i'm boutta give him will be more than enough so please don't join in"

@jewels3846

Жыл бұрын

Honestly yeah. If anything we should be seeing if he needs a doctor after this. It was so one sided i almost pitied him just for losing so bad to Karl but then he would speak and annoy me again.

@sagichdirdochnicht4653

Жыл бұрын

There is a difference between a well manered, public and personal response, vs a bunch of angry fans writing hate comments with half wrong facts. Karl just has the gift to beat his opponents bloody with words, without ever being rude or lying.

@wayfa13

Жыл бұрын

@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 well in their defense, they did give him a LOT of ammunition

He’s an investor not a collector (hence calling it ‘Mary-oh’ instead of ‘Mario’)

aaahhhhhhh peak youtube. A random creator i've never heard of exposes a market i don't care about, gets called out by a shady "professional" and destroys him immediatly in a funny and methodical way. Lovin it.

I don't know, you guys... Karl might've backed up his arguments with stats and clips of people saying and doing exactly what he's talking about, putting forth irrefutable proof, however, the other guy had compelling stock footage to back up his metaphorical buzzword salad and skillfully avoided Karl's points with strawman-arguments left and right. I'll still go with Karl on this one though because he's slightly more handsome, in my opinion.

@felixbeaulieu852

Жыл бұрын

lol

@sheshin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah between karl and a guy who looks like peter molyneu i”ll go for karl

@CyndaYT

Жыл бұрын

Forgot the fact that the other guy has a Royal Rumble match, in the background, of his video lmao

@CampinOnline

Жыл бұрын

Also Karl is an ABSOLUTE LEGEND which this other guy is clearly not

This gentleman’s argument against Karl really emphasizes the fallacies MOST arguments on the Internet end up utilizing in order to make their point. We have strawman, oversimplification among many others. Karl makes a excellent points regarding questioning sources, vested interest, and following the argumentative logic. If more consumers of content (especially those involved with KZread and Twitter and social media as a whole) just took ONE of the tools discussed here with them into the world, they would be more critical of the deceiving rhetoric they come across daily. Thanks Karl.

@iamaunicorn1232

Жыл бұрын

No true scotsman, some ad hominens, whatever leaving out context is called,... Its a great video for practicing spotting logical fallacies. Oh wait he was trying to argue for real? Oh man....

@Allen.Christian

Жыл бұрын

The amount of people in the world who lack even a cursory knowledge of argumentative logic is... depressing.

@Rabbit-the-One

Жыл бұрын

I saw a Black and White fallacy slip in there at some point as well. I may have also seen a mix of argument from authority and no true Scotsman with the "we real collectors" section.

@osurpless

Жыл бұрын

@@Rabbit-the-One Black and white thinking is one of those fallacies that pretty much transcends critical thinking, as it is also how ancient religions like Manichaeism found appeal in the first place. Given how prominent philosophical dualism is to their worldview, it’s inevitable that its more relatable tenets would cross over to society as a whole, as well as the foundations of monotheistic religions as well. A distinct form of syncretism, if you will?

@ryuixyui

Жыл бұрын

Remember, Shigeru Miyamoto said that the value of their games will always be zero, because the value of their games can only be measured by the joy, happiness and feelings experienced by the player while playing the game. He hates the retro market and said that games should be played and enjoyed, not be collected, hoarded and sold without playing it.

The way he cut together the clips there in the end is absolutely disgusting and you could've just shown that part and dropped the mic. Great video as always Jobst Who?? :D I've been bingewatching your stuff lately. Keep it up!

Anytime you say “please dont attack this person” I know we are gonna be in a wild ride watching this person in question.

This is such a good response. No personal attacks, no cheesy editing, just well delivered arguments.

Dude made a clown out of himself and then deleted ALL of his youtube video, great job Karl, is amusing to see someone actually using arguments and not crying cause his scam was found out.

@Kermitgottagun

Жыл бұрын

Is that why I can't find this baldy's videos? He legit just nuked his entire channel?

@brianfhunter

Жыл бұрын

@@Kermitgottagun - I came here on the comment section to just to find the name of this piece of shit and give a dislike on the video... A Bad made video i just ignore, "they will get better, maybe...", but Scammers are imoral by definition, i will take my time to fight back, even if is just a single dislike with very little impact... . I would be very happy if he got nuked.

@avocatdelamusique9778

Жыл бұрын

@@Kermitgottagun yep lol he supposedly deleted all of his videos

@Dracogame

Жыл бұрын

lmao now I feel good. How can people be so slimy and think they can get away with it. He really tried to make that argument sitting in front of a wall of sealed wata games.

@heatherangel9700

Жыл бұрын

His video wasn't even a response. This was the quality rebuttal everyone is sharing? He didn't even bother to address anything Karl said or point out where he was factually incorrect. All he did was attack Karl personally for the entire video. It's the KZread equivalent of a teenager saying "You mad bro?" You hit the nail on the head. Clown is the only way to describe him.

The original video you covered was so difficult to watch, you did well to keep calm and respond as you did.

Anyone who pronounces Mario and Mary-oh is not a collector

No wonder he's attacking you with all of these obvious lies. He's trying to reach out to his target audience (the gullible idiots) so he can sell off his own scammed investment!

@SoulSeeker20

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, he's not stupid. We get it, his audience won't, and they'll eat up all the dramatic music, the strawman arguments, the blatant misdirection, the simple digestible narrative - he's pandering to the lowest common denominator.

@bluegum6438

Жыл бұрын

It's all classic huckster prevarication, he has no interest in the truth or in making a good argument. Like the spineless mollusc he is, he expels a cloud of ink and flees back to his lair.

@exalented

Жыл бұрын

No wonder we have so many blockheads in office.

@PinkManGuy

Жыл бұрын

Scammers over the phone do this, too. If you're smart enough to see through their obvious lies? Dropped like a rock. They'll never call you again with the intent to scam, only to harass and annoy if you were an especially egregious example. I called my scammer a "benchode bosedeke" and he immediately hung up. I received calls for like two weeks. Presumably his boss told him to knock it off and call people they can actually scam, I dunno why he stopped. It filters out people who are going to waste the scammer's time. That way, they're only interacting with stupid people, and you know what they say about parting a fool from his money...

The editing of that dude's video feels almost satirical in it's over the top nature. It feels like a cartoony evil corporation's example of how to manipulate the masses. It's a very surreal experience overall. Either way, keep doing you Karl, I love every second.

@flophawk

Жыл бұрын

exactly, it feels like a parody of itself

@lnlonelyness2801

Жыл бұрын

idk why, it gave me the vibe of an old Machinima video, or like a really shitty Nostalgia Critic skit, plus the guy kinda looks like him as well w/o the glasses

@JamieDenAdel

Жыл бұрын

An arbitrary cutaway every other sentence.

@harriehausenman8623

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see someone else pointing this out! 🤗 I couldn't decide if his editing skills are just objectively bad, or if he was aiming for "The Room" vibes 😜

@marCHILLL

Жыл бұрын

He must think his viewers have such short attention span that he has to put music, sound and other images in every 2 seconds.

That guy is right. Pat Contri broke into my house and ripped open all of my sealed video games, and then he got the Angry Video Game Nerd to shit on them 😢Damn you, Pat, you NES punk.

The only reason this guy is taking issue with Karl is because he just happens to be the one that made the video exposing this scam. I really think his main issue is that he’d prefer to bury his head in the sand and be in denial about how much he overpaid and that he got scammed. It’s likely that he’s also just mad that this scandal devalued his collection.

I like how he used a picture of me too, and simulated that I was crying. lol

@jayst

Жыл бұрын

Lol I was tripping out about that

@SmoothJK

Жыл бұрын

It only makes them look stupid and petty

I can't quite wrap my head around the audacity of calling Karl, who is arguably one of the best investigative gaming journalists out there, *a fraud and a liar.*

@Lightna

Жыл бұрын

If you cannot understand that then understand this, people who stand to gain the most tend to be the loudest against their opponents whom the latter has proof

@NoraNoita

Жыл бұрын

Karl even exposed Karl for cheating and came clean about it, that's some honesty you wont find anywhere else in the industry.

@nessthecat

Жыл бұрын

Projection is a hell of a thing. People really think it works to discredit people like Karl XD

@drifter402

Жыл бұрын

Probably the ONLY investigative journalist

@dans3379

Жыл бұрын

@@Lightna i think that person was using flowery (sp) to illustrate a point, good on you for helping them out if not. Some folk might be so distant from the thought process they actually needed help.

Karl, I only have a passing interest in the topics you cover, but I still find your videos insightful and engaging. It's obvious to any of your regular viewers that the videos you create have value. Keep up the good work and don't let the idiots get you down.

You got to love how he keeps calling himself a collector when he's being a speculator. He knows that if he was honest about even that, the average viewer will question his motives since collectors and re-sellers are two very different things.

Watching his video makes me see how real the contrast is between a fake, ad hominem, straw man argument and real exposé reporting on an issue, makes me appreciate and respect Karl all the more

@VSMOKE1

Жыл бұрын

This is why the world is falling apart what took you so long sorry I had to say

@anonymousmcanonymous3055

Жыл бұрын

His calm impresses me. I know it's not a live reaction, but being talked down like that would piss me off instantly.

Don’t trust anyone that pronounces his name “Mayrio” but claims to be an adamant video game collector.

@doublearon9942

Жыл бұрын

Could the pronunciation be a regional thing? Retro Wolf a New Yorker pronounces it the same way. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@nutinurmacaroni

Жыл бұрын

No.. lol it's clear defiance of actuality. Every human being on Earth knows the name and how to pronounce it lol.

@ChosselDeluxe

Жыл бұрын

@@doublearon9942 Considering he shouts his name in most title screens, I doubt it.

@j-t4436

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to tell you, but thats how every other person on the planet pronounces it outside of America. After all its an Italian name, and its pronounced mArio, not mOrio.

@littlered6340

Жыл бұрын

Right? It's weird because Mario is a proper noun, those have specific pronunciation, and he says his name in the games. You don't even need to have played the specific one 😩

when someone makes a video about me, i would try to not call it a true crime video......

Real passionate collectors will have some sealed copies as their "centerpiece" in their collection and will definitely own an opened copy for regular play. Game "resellers" will just argue over what part of their hoard is the most valuable at the moment and hypothetically how much money they'd make selling it all, they don't even see them as games anymore

Immediately his entire demeanor comes off as arrogant and smug. Not even going to listen to him talk. It's pretty obvious he's a clown and is mad about being exposed. Keep exposing these creeps, Karl!

@justinmadrid8712

Жыл бұрын

He does have that smug vibe. He reminds me of a CNN host.

@benwhittle7204

Жыл бұрын

Yep, almost immediately I couldn't stand this guy's demeanor, plus the excessive video edits just make it look worse.