Enhance 4k to 8k Processor: This little maneuver is going to cost us 51 years

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Ha!!!... you'd need something fast... with a few fast Nvidia cards too !!!

Excellent review. Seems the primary benefit will be for modernizing old footage.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

True... definitely bigger improvements with older footage! 👍

@slojcabronas858

3 жыл бұрын

We are already having benefits in modern games with DLSS

@kamipls6790

2 жыл бұрын

No it's not. We are watching a man using an, at this time 3 yr old whatever mac without CUDA and Tensorflow acceleration, reviewing his 10 hour upscaling attempts of 10 seconds of video. By the way this software matured massively since this video's upload. Compression settings are included, encoders, multiple new and "old" improved ai models were added. Which of course is not his fault reviewing wise. It's actually best when u have great 1080p footage downscale it to 720p via davinci studio (2x neural might do a trick here, too) and then upscale with topaz labs video enhance ai. For old footage I recommend doing multiple upscales on a video. So instead of 720p to 2160p u go 720p 2x > 1440p then downscale to 1080p 1080p 2x > 2160p U might want to do denoising first in editing software or use the function in topaz. 480p upscaling can be tricky, since that footage might as well be badly encoded. 480p crisp material on the other hand is no problem at all. A rule of thumb to mention: You want an ai to work on the smallest resolution possible. The smallest res without losing detail. You can do it on your Mac. 30 minute footage might cost u a year then. Or use this software after u read the system requirements... Cheers 😑

new versions can work with interlaced shots now, and also way more options

@extrashot

2 жыл бұрын

There you go!... kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6B_xpWYfpTMddY.html

Great voice. This isn't the sort of thing I'd watch normally. You made it engaging!

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I think this kind of software will be huge in a couple of years. I get the feeling it's on an exponential scale of improvement in technology. Imagine a world where you could take films from the 1940s and upscale them to 4k in todays picture quality.

@theoptimist4771

3 жыл бұрын

They can already be remastered up to 8K since film stock is an analog medium and thus has no defined resolution like digital

@imkirbo3094

3 жыл бұрын

@@theoptimist4771 That's true of more recent films, however films over say 50 years old have a reducing limit to the quality that can be obtained from them due to film degradation over the years. Take a film like Double Indemnity from 1944, it's original prints will be 80 years old soon, and at that age it's probably not usable at all for any modern resolution as the physical film will be too aged to get anything from. On top of that many old films like that don't have much demand to be remastered or rereleased as most people today have never heard of them, so studios wouldn't want to bother with it. If the technology reaches a stage where smaller companies can digitally remaster old films like that using AI for fairly cheaply, then there's no limit to the lifespan and longevity of any film that's ever been made, and I think that's brilliant. Every film will basically be watchable and upscalable forever. I've got a pretty high education in film and media production so I've got a good understanding of how exiting this technology is for historic films.

@lukuro

3 жыл бұрын

It will be awesome

@SimbiAni

2 жыл бұрын

I am SO looking forward to this! 🤩 Especially as someone who was into a very technologically-limited hobby around the turn of the millennium lol & the potential of not only being able to ~salvage fanvids in general, but not having to re-edit my own from "scratch" if ever there ends up a version of the tech where it can refer to actual 1080/4K source & use that info to upconvert / AI-upscale them.. what a dream! (& it's been over a decade since I lost the ability / tech / living situation to make vids, but I still do hope to get back into it ~someday..) 💻😅

@smartkiltedman

2 жыл бұрын

@@theoptimist4771 kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4ZnuNqJqpTHdZM.html

We recently had many priceless 8mm reels converted to mp4 by a service. These films were from the 30's to the 50's. The conversions in many cases had significant noise in many scenes. The service did minimal post scan image processing. While the family was thrilled just be able to see and share them, I got intrigued with Video Enhance AI to see if it can improve them. It turns out VE AI does a great job in two areas. It removed most the noise with little degradation and exported the source frame by frame into a jpg, png or tiff for editing out defects. I processed the source mpg using A.I. Model Artimus-LQ, Preset 100% (denoise/deblock) and Model Output of both MP4 and JPG's (8bit compressed). I used the MP4 output file to review for defective frames (scratches, blotches, etc..). If unacceptable defects occur, I found the errant JPG frames in the subdirectory of JPGs created by VE AI. I then edited them with Affinity Photo frame by frame, (depending on the number of affected frames, this step could be labor intensive). Once finished I combined the JPGs back into a MP4 with ffmpeg: >> ffmpeg -r 16 -f image2 -i /%06d.jpg -s 640x480 /.mp4 -r = frame rate (16 for 8mm, chk yours with >> ffmpeg -i source.mp4 or ffprobe source.mp4 ) -f image2 = tells ffmpeg that the input file format is a sequence of images (ie. 000000.jpg, 000001.jpg, 000002.jpg) NOTE: The numbers must be sequential with no missing numbers or ffmpeg aborts. VE AI will export jpgs, tiffs and pngs in this sequence. -s HxW = height and width of output -i %06d.jpg = describes the sequence format (%06d is a six digit number with leading zeros followed by the file extension such as .jpg) There were no audio tracts with my films, but an extracted audio file can be integrated by adding another input to the command line. Run ffprobe to find your audio codec and frame rate of the source video to set the ffmpeg options. >> ffprobe source.mp4 >> ffmpeg -r -f image2 -i /%06d.jpg -i audio.aac -s HeightxWidth /.mp4 -i audio.aac = tells ffmpeg to use this audio file as input You can extract the audio with: >> ffmpeg -i input-video.avi -vn -acodec copy output-audio.aac where the file extension (aac) is determined by ffprobe of the audio codec. I'm not an ffmpeg expert, but the combination of Video Enhance AI with ffmpeg greatly enhanced these old films.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Wow... that's a comprehensive guide to get the most out of this. Very useful info here and thank you very much for sharing. it's appreciated! I'm glad it worked well for you Don.

Thanks for the review. Hmmm, I am currently in the process of digitising the family videos, put them all on hard drives to give to my parents and brothers so we've all got a copy of the footage through the years. I am trying to find ways to improve the image quality. This looks like it might do it. I might hold off for a while just now until I've done them all. I'm hoping I'll see a deal on this or I'll see if a cheaper alternative for an amateur such as myself emerges.

Now this is exactly how a review should be. These days reviews are usually just advertisements. This video was perfectly balanced to my opinion. Thank you very much for your great work again. Maybe I'll buy this software one day to enhance my old VHS and Super VHS digitized footage.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you computerjantje... very kind and appreciated!

I've been doing some tests with this software recently, and I've noticed that I get much better results if I first process a video with preset 100% Scale Denoise/Deblock, as this cleans up videos a LOT, it's almost even more impressive than the upscale itself sometimes, and then process this result video a second time, this time with a 200% or more upscale. Upscaling the cleaned up video instead of the original one gives me a cleaner image, as things like noise or possible blocking artifacts aren't upscaled since they were reduced in the first pass.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea... makes sense. I'll try it, and thank you for sharing

@Larxia

4 жыл бұрын

@Dragan Petronijevic I had poor results with Artemis so I mostly don't use it at all. I've noticed that CG seems to be better for cleaning up very poor quality image, it reduces noise / blocking better, especially with the denoise/deblock preset. However, when using it to upscale, it smooth things a bit too much in my opinion, so Gaia HQ seems to be better for upscaling in the tests I did, it exagerates things a bit less, especially for faces and such, it's more natural. I either go with Gaia HQ for both denoise/deblock and upscaling, or with Gaia CG for denoise/deblock if the source quality is really bad, and then gaia HQ to upscale. Here is a test I did on a 1997 tv show in a not so great dvdrip quality, but it's the best source available. Source quality: i.imgur.com/yStEE6t.jpg After a first pass using Gaia CG with the denoise/deblock preset: i.imgur.com/a8Eq4BR.jpg And then after upscaling it to 300%: i.imgur.com/opVkryl.jpg I'm still experiencing with it, I wish it was a bit faster :p

@ZeroCool22

4 жыл бұрын

@@Larxia The Upscaling settings please.

@kingpaddy9009

4 жыл бұрын

Bookmark

@Uneedhelp91

3 жыл бұрын

@@Larxia I want to try some TV shows like Stargate SG1

Wow, this was a very professionally done video! I recently tried this program for upscaling rather low bitrate 720p gameplay to 4K. The results were very impressive considering I used youtube-compressed footage rather than the source file which I no longer have.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment... and you're right to start with a low bitrate, that's where the big improvements are!

Great demonstration from a professional with no nonsense presentation, glad i found this channel, subscribed and liked.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm glad you're here now and the sub is appreciated!

Me watching this video in 360p: 🤡🤡🤡

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@yoeymeme

2 жыл бұрын

Enhance it lol

@littlelionel95legendary

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same with 480p. Realized after reading your comment. Thanks bro. I've officially joined the Circus.

@tridi3d911

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoeymeme lol

One thing this software does brilliantly is upscaling rendered 3d footage. I render at 960x540 and use the cg mode to upscale it to 1920x1080. The results are very good (not as good as rendering at 1080p, but very good nonetheless), and it saves me a lot of time of rendering. FYI, I have a i7 8700K with a 1050ti - each frame takes about 5 seconds to process - so with a faster graphics card it will definitely speed up your workflow even more.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

You're the second person on here who's mentioned using it for upscaling CGI for time saving... I've just upgraded to the latest version and that seems a lot quicker even on an old Mac!

As someone who's sick of the BBC not even releasing a bluray of their classic dinosaur shows, Topaz VEAI has done such a better job than individually upscaling frame by frame with Topaz Gigapixel. The SD to HD upscale is clean and passable if you get the input settings right. If your result is too plastic, try selecting a higher input dataset. Even with the dreaded watermark, the difference is amazing. I will be purchasing this. On a side note, I think PAL will be better to upscale than NTSC because PAL SD has a higher resolution by 20%. This extra data will help a lot.

This video really needs an update. I just downloaded the trial, and the interface has completely changed. You can now tell it what kind of input footage it is, and what you think is wrong with it (noise, compression artifacts, etc) and it will recommend one or more algorithms to apply. You can also tell it that your input footage is interlaced, and it will deinterlace it for you.

@extrashot

2 жыл бұрын

It certainly deserves another look with the latest version and a new Mac.... hopefully soon.

Pocket 6K footage exported at 8K via Topaz yields a drastically better image than the overheating Canon R5 :)

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

I'm slightly biased... but I think the BMPCC 6K does anyway !!!

Great video and I agree with all your points. Tried it out on my 50s and 60s rock and roll vhs films and though a bit sharper the resultant upscale looked more like a painting and somewhat unnatural. I think there is potential for old SD video but not quite there yet considering the time needed for rendering. The topaz promo videos looked immensely better than my own results.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean with the painted look sometimes... did you try short clips with all the different settings? I found the Gaia-HQ was slightly less aggressive with the smoothing! I hope they are still developing this software because it definitely has potential. Thanks for the kind comment.

@luciovids9208

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot ​ Thanks for the suggestion. I had tried it earlier and again yesterday and though I agree that it has a less painted look, the improvement is very minor. In fact it almost looked more blurry because of the smoothing out of the original film. In general it's almost like comparing a 65 and 70 inch tv. Side by side I can see a difference but on its own, not really. As much as I'm ready to buy the software, their one year of free updates included in the purchase makes me think that it might be better to wait and see what 2021 has to hold. I look forward to more of your videos. Regards from Canada.

You can get same results with open source avisynth

Thanks for doing this. I recently saw the ads and gave this software a try as I had a bunch of old SD footage that I was archiving. Luckily, the trial version has few limitations except for the watermark. I thought the software did make a difference, but not enough to justify the cost in time or money for what I was doing. If I had a paying job, where I needed to up res some footage, I’d give it another look. The nice thing about the trial version is you can try it on your footage, before you buy it. I think that the effectiveness of this software is very dependant on the footage you are working with.

Great video, I have been using an online platform to enhance my SD videos and have been super impressed with the results. Thinking about purchasing this, and I appreciate your even-handed result.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, much appreciated. If you're looking to upscale SD video's then the latest version of Enhance AI is significantly better than when I tested. Not just faster for people like me, with rubbish graphic cards, but nicer looking results too. They've given us more options. Look for the holiday pricing at the moment... it makes it a little easier to justify!

I ran a less than standard def version of Roger Rabbit through it and again... WOW...

There definitely seems to be noticeable improvement you managed to show. I guess the hope is it really is AI and with more "training" through maintenance and upgrades by Topaz Labs the results can improve. Thankfully I'm on Windows and my Nvidia card is relatively high end so rendering will hopefully be quicker than what you experienced. I think I'll give the trial a shot and purchase if it works well to scale up my old videos. Thanks for the review.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. You'll definitely get a faster result with a Nvidia card and it seems to work best on older videos. I need apple to make up with Nvidia! It's worth testing the trial first... I would have done that, but didn't think it would be fair on Topaz to then post a review here.

precisely the sort of testing and commentary I wanted from this program. Thank you

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment... it's appreciated.

I really enjoyed this video - I happen to have some old videos and photos I'd like to enhance and I don't see much difference with the trial version. I like your presentation - it's short, but very informative and delivered in a nice, calm manner.

This is a great video! really breaks down things and sadly, not much content on the web showing things in action other than product demo videos, which you can't always trust.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Love your content and your playful/calming disposition.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Perry... calm on the outside!

@filmmassa

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot 😂🤯

Fantastic but I'm not sure what intrigued me more - Video Enhance AI or your review, script and narration! And if I'm not mistaken, this was before you attended Casey's class - well done.😎

What a brilliant job you did making this piece. Broadcast quality material on all fronts, well done.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks James... kind of you!

I agree with everyone complaining and concerned about the render times. However, it does some crazy voodoo and if you put in the time like this gentleman has, you'll eventually get amazing results. I've been using it for an attorney that I've been enlarging security cam footage for use in mediation and courtroom trials. Before I found this AP, I was just cleaning it up as best I could and enlarging it in AfterEffects. With Topaz Video Enhance I'm able to bring out a lot of detail that I couldn't before. My client has even credited my Topaz output files with winning a big money case. The best part is that I charge by the hour so slow rendering, for the first time in my career, is actually generating more money. Luckily, Lady Justice moves slowly so I haven't really felt pressured to miss a deadline because of the intense render times. One enhanced video that I set up to render overnight makes a nice little piece of change for my bank account. If I could land a few more attorneys for the same service, I could end up in a comfortably secure financial situation. Still, slow sux.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Are you sure you should be telling the Attorney's how the charging works? I admire your productive use of the tech though.... nice one! 👍😀

@SCmattburrows

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Most of the attorneys I know (and I know a lot.For some reason, my city and state are overflowing with attorneys) bill their clients for every tiny little thing they do for a client including asking their assistants to put the case file back in the filing cabinet. I'm sure some of them bill their clients if they happen to have a dream about the case in the middle of the night. I'm not working with defense lawyers or prosecutors. These guys are ambulance-chasing, Slip& Fall attorneys, and they're loaded. I've done this service for about five of them now and not one of them has so much as blinked when I give them a quote or an invoice. It's not their money anyway. They're going to add to their fee when they win $$$ money for a client. AND, they don't take cases they don't think they can win. I learned to stop selling myself short and began factoring in the skills that I spent 25 years developing.and that they're hiring me for. Speaking of selling yourself short, those of us who have actually put in the time and the work to get where we need to unite and warn the thousands of young designers and editors who are accepting ridiculously low prices to edit ridiculously complex projects that if they don't cut the crap, we're going to take them to an abandoned building and beat them senseless with a rubber hose. They're driving the value of our craft into the ground by editing people's podcasts or youtube shows for as low as $25/hour. The first production company I ever worked for charged $175/hour with a two-hour minimum. And those were 1991 dollars!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@SCmattburrows How true... totally matches my experiences of how lawyers charge as well. They wouldn't last five minutes in an open or unregulated market... but then they are never going to let that happen! The point about how new people to our industry charge is much more complicated. I do understand why it's tempting to start out cheap and get a foot in the door... but all that happens is you undervalue your own skills for the whole of you career. It's almost worse if you do a good job because you'll undervalue everyone else who's trying to earn a living as well. Once people get used to getting your services for cheap... it's almost impossible to raise the rates. Eventually you'll never be able to support your family !!!

@TahirAbbas-sy7gn

3 жыл бұрын

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Wow you really had a lot of work to create this video, thank you so much it made many things clear to me! Amazing quality video!

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Appreciated!

Loved this video. It's over a year since this video was posted, have you had more success with the Topaz software later? It would be interesting if you could make an updated video about this. Especially if you've upgraded your Mac (which doesn't seem to be a speed monster ... :D ) I just downloaded a trial and wanted to see others' experience. I found the interface PC looks somewhat different and has several interlaced modes now. So far I've been quite amazed by how good it works on some 1080p dashcam footage.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

I've been thinking about updating this to cover the latest versions... seems a lot better!

What a quality video you made. The tests and questions I would ask. thanks. I intend to subscribe but... I was already subscribed, I wonder why KZread doesn't push a quality youtuber to our feed. Thanks again.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Need to look at that... but thank you for the sub, very kind!

I agree with the speaker in this product review, this is a very useful video tool. Part of the work I do is to take SD 720x576 video and scanned 8mm/ Super 8mm files, and polish the media for HD documentaries. The best way I've found to do this prior to using Topaz Lab's Video Enhance, is to rigorously prepare the SD files. This helps not only to ensure a better looking SD file for up-scaling, but it will also produce better re-scaled assets for video compositing. Firstly I use ReVision FX's Deinterlace filter to remove the majority of "combing" or stair-casing in SD video. Secondly, I use ReVision FX's directional blur vertically at 1-2 pixels, to remove the remainder of combing. Thirdly, I do a de-noise pass using Neat Video. Finally, I do an initial colour correct of the file and render. Now the prepared SD file is ready to be up-scaled in Video Enhance. This may seem like a convoluted process. But then, what standard do you want for your video work?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

That's sounds like a well thought out workflow... very impressive! I imagine the whole process takes a while for say every minute of footage?

@SRC267

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, i have a SD 720x576 video ripped from dvd in vob format. Would you we willing to upscale it for me using your methods? Its a 5 minute music video from the early 2000's. I don't paying you for the service.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

@@SRC267 why not use the 30 day trial?

@SRC267

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot I've got the full version now.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

@@SRC267 enjoy!

This is an awesome approach, and your feedback is very professional to hear !!! Being in Video industry for 20+ years, I love the details that you shared, kudos to make much more such videos

On this subject, the new model of NVidia Shield proposes a real time upscaling option that uses AI. It upscales 480p, 720p or 1080p videos to 4k. The result is interesting although it can look a bit plasticky sometime.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

That's a lot to do in real time... like to have a look at that. This tech is moving fast now...

Thanks for the great video; such a pleasure to watch! I've just bought a "proper" laptop to replace my 10 year old one, and looking forward to trying this out on very poor quality 1950s Sci-Fi TV shows. As others have said here and elsewhere, the software has improved a lot in the last year or two, so fingers crossed for some great results. I smiled at the suggestion that Topaz is ideal for someone with "too much money" . Rather, I think it's for people like me with too few skills. ;-)

@extrashot

2 жыл бұрын

The software has improved a lot of the last year... so much I made a new video using an M1 Mac.... wow , what a difference! kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6B_xpWYfpTMddY.html

Great analysis, I got their advertisement on instagram and kinda curious about how it works. I googled and found your video, your video is so helpful for me to understand what this program all about, thanks!

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped... and thank you for the comment.

I have been using this for a while and for anyone interested in the time to do the project element I have come across this. I have an older HP pc which is in any terms fast when I first used the program with the pc as is a 5 min clip took 4.5 days to convert original footage 720 x 576 taking it up 200% I changed the processor to an AMD A10 5800K with only a slight improvement (but still happy) I then changed the graphics card to a RTX750ti (second hand 60 euros) and what a difference 4.5 days down to around 4 hours. the latest version of Topaz does have interlacing De interlacing function which is superb. I ran some DV cam footage and again upscaled 200% the end result was very good no jagged edges at all and much better quality. I am currently saving to get a gaming computer for flight sim software but cant wait to see what the AI video does on that machine as the graphics ram goes from 2gb to 10 gb. This software needs a good graphics card ... there is an option within the software to use cpu or gpu if you have a gpu run it through that.

@QueenJeremy

3 жыл бұрын

Did you mean GTX 750 TI instead of RTX 750 TI? Because trust me, if an RTX had 2 GB of video memory, it would be a terrible choice. Most RTX's have well above 4 GB of video memory... Just sayin!

@tibetanbowl7255

3 жыл бұрын

@@QueenJeremy yes you are right its the gtx I know it has 2gb. I have been looking at rtx cards as i want to build a high spec gaming pc. got mixed up

The thing to remember about AI, vs a specific process driven improvement (resolve, final cut), is that AI is trained, and will get better as future updates are released. We've already seen this with their other AI tools. Their upscaling, noise reduction, JPEG->RAW conversion tools today produce better results than when they first launched. For example, the shot @ 4:35 should get better as the AI learns to detect context better. The trees aren't detected as trees particularly well, and therefore its processing, and introduction of AI detail isn't great. Expect that to get better. An alternative option would be to run your content through their standalone, picture-based AI upscaler. This can produce significantly better shots on content that doesn't have a huge amount of motion. E.g. your drone panning shots will definitely come out better - the downside is you need to convert your video to frames, process them in the tool, and re-assemble in to a video (or use a frame sequence if your NLE supports it) Secondly, your interlaced content, run it through a proper deinterlacer. I can recommend I can highly recommend QTGMC, since it's excellent at taking, for example, 25i content, and reproducing 50p. Since interlaced content is essentially double framerate encoded in to a single interlaced frame. Again, or low motion content this produces exceptional results, and it's free.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Good point about the interlaced... merging fields isn't good enough! Are you saying that the AI in the picture based scaler is more advanced than the Video Enhance program... is that why it does a better job or is it just the additional computational time in can take when looking at individual frames? The thought of the AI being constantly improved is exciting as it's definitely doing something more than just edge correction!

@sheppo

4 жыл бұрын

extrashot i watched a presentation some time ago that really summed up the power, or potential power of ai image enhancements. It went something like this. If you can look at an image and imagine how it should look then so can ai. For example we can watch old hand cranked silent movies and imagine fluid motion, clarity, and maybe even colour. Or watch old video games and see smooth polygon edges, or high colour depth.. Technically, the current training that’s going on works with the best quality footage available. 8k, shoot on the best cameras. As more and more of that is processed, and as higher quality (>8k) content becomes available the better ai processing will also become. Somewhat there’s a reliance on processing power to train ai on too; nvidia train its video game upscaling on super computers, that perhaps topaz can’t afford just yet? As for QTGMC, i actually haven’t tried using it for footage that is going to end up being ai scaled, but I’ve found QTGMC to personally be the best deinterlacer out there, and is generally very good at temporally interpolating to remove interlacing artifacts. Potentially in a high morion scene it might produce artifacts for ai upscaling, but i suspect it will still be better than not using it.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@sheppo I will take a look at QTGMC... thank you, very interesting stuff and excited to see which way AI goes in video creation!

I find the Video Enhance AI very interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it improves in the future! Also, thanks for showing me how to upscale 1080p to 4K in Final Cut Pro, I just tried it and it looks really nice!

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind comment... happy I saved you money while we wait for the future improvements!

Your review was very helpful. Thanks! You also brought back memories of being tethered between a Nagra and an Eclair NPR!

Oh my god, I've heard the word interlaced about 10 times in the past month, but didn't really understand what it was. I recently saw the first interlaced footage that I recognized as terrible looking, too. It had this weird blurring in the motion areas and it pissed me off. almost like TV bars in the motion of a clip. And you just taught me that that weird motion was called interlaced footage. I VERY strongly dislike it. UGh. Anyway, thanks for showing me your video. I really enjoyed watching it!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I'm old enough to remember when everything was interlaced.... unless you went to the movies. Dark days indeed! Thank you for the kind comment, it's appreciated.

@jiffijoff9780

4 жыл бұрын

@Planet Xtreme, haha, this comment made me feel old in a second. Welcome to the past world of strange NLE products like "DPS PAR" or "Matrox Digisuite", where interlace or not was vital for smooth movements, but also flickering typography on screen. Thats of course on phosphorized scanline monitors only, with heavy tubes and double screen refresh. With half the y-resolution, by skipping every second line, and double the frame rate (50/60Hz, PAL/NTCS) it was made sure that either all odd lines or all even lines of a full frame were visible at the same time. So unlike those very visible bars nowadays in real interlace times those bars were not visible onscreen while the clips were running but provided a smoother playback.

@PlanetXtreme

4 жыл бұрын

@@jiffijoff9780 aw man. Thanks for the legendary replies! You definitely get a sub and like for that!! :)

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@jiffijoff9780 wow... all stuff I'd prefer to forget!... I still get confused by odd or even line first 😂

@jiffijoff9780

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot haha, I'd too. Including mpeg2, what a nightmare codec. Remember tmpeg professional? Always fiddling with the profiles and bandwidths.

8:50 Such a satisfying looking set you've got for your video background

I think you have clearly the best videotech channel i've seen! You have a great sense of humour. Your content is very deep. And your videos are full of small details (irony). I think (hope) it takes a lot of time to produce this videos! Otherwise I would feel myself incapable, because I needed a lot of time for this quality level of video making. :) I am curious, do you work with teleprompter?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... you're very kind. It does take too long... I need to perfect the art of producing videos in a more efficient way. It's an area I'm sadly not very good at but trying to improve! Not using a prompt at the moment, mainly because I'd then have to sit down and write a script !!! Thanks for your comment - it's appreciated.

Fantastic as usual!.. Born to do it!.. Thanks for yet another great video!

What a great review/analysis! Subbed!

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment... and the sub is also appreciated!

Watching your example enhance ai seems to do something a little more than sharpening alone. I think this technology just needs a few more years before it’s in every editor and we can all call it “enhance”

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

It's definitely doing something more than I can do with FCPX or Resolve alone... works well with poor quality footage but is quite subtle once the rushes are good. Cheers for the comment.... and I love your videos by the way... keep them coming!

What a nice review, good job.

Great review. Really good, I upscalled 40 seconds of a video clip 480p to 1080p, really a good job, but It takes 4 hours in my notebook i7 5500u.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... it does take a while... especially without an NVidia GPU... but 480 to 1080 is usually worth the wait!

@lucasleal4035

4 жыл бұрын

extrashot Yes, is amazing the upscaling .. really worth.. i’m upscaling a concert.

@dragonstale3911

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasleal4035 an i7 5500u only has two cores with hyperthreading. It is a fairly weak processor, especially for something like video editing which tend to utilise more cores. Mobile processors also generally have lower frequencies and thus lower performance over desktop computers.

Great professional presentation. Subscribed!

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you... it's appreciated. Have a great New Year!

@mrlightwriter

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot A great New Year to you too!

Thanks for such an informative review! It's nice to get a sincere honest insightful look into a product before spending a good chunk of money.

@extrashot

2 жыл бұрын

... and thank you for the kind comment. I do need to take another look at this program. The updates since I made this video are huge.

@lafforsigh

2 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot I bought the program while it was discounted for Black Friday. I haven't spent much time digging into it yet but thanks to you revealing how long the upscale time is I was prepared in knowing that it is not a fast process and I would have probably been much more impatient feeling like I should have forewarned had I not seen your review.

@AhmedAli-bw6lq

Жыл бұрын

@@extrashot how can use free without paying is it possible in adope primer proo

many thanks for saving me some coin!! and the tip on how to do in editor. BTW though, for the stills shooters out there, have just tried the noise reduction software that TopazLabs has, and it is very very good!! used on Mavic stills, and results are fantastic

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... and yes, I've heard others saying the noise reduction routines are great!

You should check the program again, the improvements they have made are quite interesting. There are almost 20 different AI rendering models now as opposed to the three you saw.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

True... I've been playing with the latest version and it's improved a lot. I should do an update as soon as I have a moment.

One of the very best produced reviews I have ever seen. Excellent work. Many thanks.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

You'll make me big headed.... but thank you, it's appreciated!

@TahirAbbas-sy7gn

3 жыл бұрын

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I love your videos, always informative 👍🏻

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... very kind.

adding frame s and slowing down footage is magic. though

@jericojimenez7097

2 жыл бұрын

wait ? what will be the results?

@rat7963

2 жыл бұрын

@@jericojimenez7097 You get a normal frame rate except everything would move slower than normal but it'll be so smooth that it looks like a realistic slow motion.

thank u i think ur the first that explains about upscaling

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex.

This is just the video i needed; answering all my questions and taking not much time. Thanks mate!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

No worries, and thank you for the comment. Appreciated!

You just saved me £200 bucks as I dont have any SD or dodgy footage, just clean 1080p upwards. Thanks.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

If you're still curious... a lot of people seem to have success with the trial versions!

Do you know if is there any program that enhance the video quality for android? I have a HD 720p video and i wanted to upload to KZread in FullHD 1080p, what is a better quality for watch on my phone

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I don't... does anyone? Maybe a trail version of Enhance AI on a borrowed Nvidia PC... and upload from there?

@rogiz

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot unfortunately i don't have a pc to do that yet

@SantiagoMonroy5

4 жыл бұрын

Just upload at 720p.

@USBEN.

4 жыл бұрын

This thing requires serious power.Phone won't be able to handle something like this yet.

@rogiz

4 жыл бұрын

@@MagicInventor well i dont have money

I want to try some tv show rips and see if it won't make a show look better. Still won't change a 4:3 aspect ratio to 16:9.

@TahirAbbas-sy7gn

3 жыл бұрын

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lmao that zoom and enhance cliches from the films.. We'll get there eventually, its hard to fill in detail you was unable to capture because tech wasn't good enough or you just recorded it with a potato. Its a good start though plenty of people will have really old crappy clips left around from like old mobile phones or something so this might be good to improve that. Nice video dude been looking at this software for ages but its a bit pricey for me at the moment

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

They often run deals on the price, but it's worth testing on a trial version first because you need a nice fast graphics card to speed things up a bit. Oh... and I normally use a potato mark iii ....

Very well conducted review. Appreciate it.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Leo... very kind!

The software has improved much the past year. And you can try all there software, as trial for a month. An easy way to figure out if it something for you.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

True...

This was a worthwhile test. Interesting to see the results you were able to obtain. As usual a useful examination of a particular tool! And yes, I go as far back as the umbilical cord. LOL!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words David... appreciated, (but I bet my cord's longer!!!)

It so lovely watching you! Such a kind face :)

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Too kind! 🥴

@TahirAbbas-sy7gn

3 жыл бұрын

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So I'm not huge on the results I've gotten from upscaling footage of real people, but this program is a godsend if you're sitting on a bunch of obscure old animation which has been poorly encoded more than a few times. The plastic, painterly quality lends itself well to any image where the viewer doesn't expect strict photorealism. While Topaz may market itself and a magical CSI zoom-and-enhance machine, I think the real value is in preservation work with animation.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Good point... and, for my eyes, the CG modes seem to give the best results for video too?

@collintmay

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot In general, yeah. The HQ mode can sometimes look better for lower-framerate materials.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@collintmay Ahh ... I didn't really think about differences in performance with different frame rates... I'm going to have to have another look!

@a64738

3 жыл бұрын

I have good results upscaling 320*240 video recordings to 1080p and 4k. It is in that segment this programs do best in my experience...

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

@@a64738 wow... 320 to 4K is a test!

BTW, thanks for buying the software, trying it out, and producing this video. Much appreciated and helpful! PS, I don't use a MAC or Facebook. I like being outside the box.

Thanks for the review, good info. I am a fan of a lot of the Topaz Labs photography products and was also looking into the Video Enhance AI product for some of my video projects, specifically for three use case scenarios: 1) I record and use a fair amount of 360 camera footage (Samsung Gear 360 before, and now the GoPro Max 360) and want to be able to enhance the 16:9 or 1:1 framed and exported clips from the 360 footage into existing 2K or 4K footage without it having a highly noticeable difference in resolution. 2) There are times when I record drone footage in 2K or 4K, but the actual framing I want to use is a cropped in view within the footage. This is usually due to instances where it would not be safe to fly and track a subject while having the drone that close to the either subject or the ground; or needing to make sure I keep the drone within signal range and still get a distant object in the shot. Being able to enhance these cropped in clips back to 2K or 4K will be a great boon. 3) High frame rate footage. Some of my gear has the option to shoot in higher frame rates of 60fps, 120fps or even 240fps. But NONE of it does so at the higher 2K/4K resolutions, you always have to drop down one or two categories of resolution in order to shoot at those high speed frame rates. When wanting to be able to slow down action by shooting at high frame rates, I want to see if using Enhance AI gives you the ability to get usable high resolution enhanced clips that can be mixed back in with the other 2K/4K clips.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

That's a very interesting use... and I could see there might be useful improvements to be had. I have an Insta360 which shoots 5.7K but gives you a poor 1080 as a crop. It certainly would be interesting to see what improvements I can get from that footage... I'll run a few tests and try to post them here. Thank you so much for the suggestion. 👍

this product is great they even offer a free trial now if you want to test it out, pretty much though i tested it for about an hour and then bought. And while im sure that some of the effects can be reproduced manually if you want super easy unattended up scaling with very little knowledge of photography required this is excellent. Its also great that its a full purchase and not a subscription which it could have been. i tested this on a couple videos i had on my pc, a 14k frame video took about 5 hours on a rtx 3090. (from 720 to 8k) and it looks excellent. and there are now 11 different up scaling models. (though to be honest it would be nice if the documentation was better as I'm really not sure what they do) however you can now change your output compression level and add grain back into the output for realism and 2 of the models allow for adjusting; sharpen, de-block and noise reduction. seeing how far the program has come since this video was made is a good sign that that it will continue to improve as the ai trained model develops. however i'd love to see this video re-done now now 9 months later.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Good point... I should take another look. The way Topaz have updated this with several new versions in the last 9 months has been very impressive.

@rayiik8076

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot that would defiantly be cool id watch a nice technical breakdown again it was very informative to the process behind it (as i don't have a background in photography). So thank you for the initial video.

Clear explanation and I really like your soothing voice, please keep making content.

With Topaz Video enhance AI you need a powerful Nvida GPU. (AMD support is promised to be available soon) I got a I9-10900 CPU and enhancing SD

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Think I need to get a RTX3080 before trying every mode! From those modes I've tried so far, I can see it's definitely doing a much better job than I ever expected.

Great review and demonstration! I’m currently testing out the Gigapixel AI & Sharpen AI for photos and the results were amazing! Quick, easy, and automatic, but you can always override the manual tab to get even greater results. I forgot to mention Gigapixel Video AI the one you are using in this video is also amazing. I have a gaming laptop...a pretty decent beefy computer, but upscaling videos can be very time consuming. I believe if a video really needs it and you happen to really love that video or clip then by all means enhance them.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. The results from SD to HD video are amazing.... and much quicker if you have an Nvidia GPU

It's the video version of Topaz Gigapixel that makes sure that there won't be any jitter one would get when upscaling individual frames. The "something" it's doing is much alike though. It does create detail where there is none based on machine-learned guesses of individial items, colors and edges in the shot. This however means it can also create abominations, most notably when enlarging faces too much. I do think normal or Adobe's Detail-Enhanced upscaling are usually more preferable, but when there is too little resolution and detail, Video Enhance will probably be the best bet.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

That's really useful to know... and makes a lot of sense... thank you. I was wondering about the whole 'machine learning' thing. If you just looked at HD to 4K conversions, you might think it was simply sales BS... but at SD levels there is definitely something a bit more clever going on...

Thanks for the review, now if know exactly what to expect if I get this :)

Try to turn the 1080p of final cut in 4k from video enhance

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

I have... and Enhance definitely did a better job!

You're very believable...and that's obviously very important. Thank you

Very informative. How I do hope all reviews on software be like this.

Gaia = mother earth, means encompassing, holistic etc..pronounced " guy ah" a as in apple

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

[embarrassed mode ON] I know that now... 😂

@raindogred

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot well i only know it because a comms team i worked for decades ago had server named "gaia" haha..always remembered it..

Thanks - I've seen those damn adds constantly and assumed it was rubbish. Appreciate how you took the time to use FCPX to replicate it - made the overall review that much better. What is the bg music you've used at the end of video?

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, good news is it's definitely not rubbish, it's doing something! I've just downloaded the latest update and it's also improved quite a bit with more picture quality options... also a fair bit faster on a Mac as well. The music was my own mix from the Filmstro service, which I used to use before switching to Artlist. Unfortunately, because I no longer subscribe, I don't have access to it any more (which is one of the reasons I switched).

As far as I know it doesn't pull details from the images, but instead recreates what it thinks would go in between the spaces basically. It's taught a certain amount of things, and then it learns how to make choices based on experience. Much like us humans in a way!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Well... some of the humans anyway !!! 😂

Underrated Channel

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, I agree!

This is actually useful thanks!!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

...and thank you!

I tried it on old video from 80s digitized from a recording on VHS tapes. It turns the faces into distorted monster faces, and eyes into monster eyes. Terrible quality, it's clearly not ready for use unless you already have fairly high resolution images to begin with. AI is clearly trained using video that started as high resolution images with resolution reduced. This way both input and output could be provided to AI for training. This means it's performance on real old footage is terrible.

This is a really great video. Awesome!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen, very kind!

Im just watching this because ive just had a play with the trail of gigapixel AI. Very interesting software, and half way to the 'enhance' of sitcoms. I found that one had similar capabilities to the frame by frame examples you show, but it worked really well on the 200 or 300 dpi scans of old printed photographs I have. You can see when you hit the limits - as you show - things start looking like painted brush strokes, but to my mind its definitely AI and its definitely putting image data that it has learnt where there was none based on what it thinks is most likely to go there. Ive seen it get it wrong too, but when you have no other option, its better than a straight upscale. They had just better not use it for crime scene investigation because it'll generate a key piece of evidence as a copy of some innocent persons image probably scraped from the public internet! Ive also recently read this is starting to become a problem for other AIs inserting real phone numbers and personal information in to real sounding generated text in the wrong context. Its a strange world and its only getting stranger.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Good point... I wonder how AI would stand up in Court! I was seriously expecting to be able to make fun of the whole 'scam' software... so the surprise was when I realised it really did do a good job. There's definitely something more than just upscaling and sharpening going on... so they should get credit for that. There's a few people on here that say you can get the same (or better) results with Gigapixel by batch processing each frame at a time?

@antus666

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot maybe, its the same engine i'd assume, based on the tensorflow ai engine. from what I know about AI it'd have a large image training set encoded in to the AI that it can draw on after it thinks its recognised something its seen before and knows about. I think gigapixel is just more updated, or the video engine might be more tuned for speed over quality.

i love this professional reviews, they know their subject ! everyone get very hyped with Ai, but sometimes thats lots of calculations for not much

"...Think I want an R5 though..." hahaha don't we all mate...😂😂

You are excellent at what you do, thank you for the video.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers, very kind of you to say so....

Great presentation. I have both FCPX and DaVinci Resolve Studio and I was wondering what process did you use with Resolve to enhance 1080P footage to 4K. If you have an existing tutorial on upscaling SD or 1080P footage with DaVinci Resolve Studio, I would be very interested to see it.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

I'm only just getting into learning Resolve... impressed so far! Thanks for the suggestion though.

This was so fun to watch!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Doda... glad you found my channel!

Interesting stuff, as a fan of what Topaz are doing I would make a few points 1) I have used this software to downscale as well as upscale, when downscaling some ropey 4k iPhone footage to 1080p it did an excellent job. 2) You may be able to make some of these improvements in other video editing software but that also takes time. In the latest version you can do a quick preview and choose mode with the best results before committing to full render, so you do not need render all and pick the best. In other software, scaling is is just one of many functions, whereas with Video Enhance AI, it is concentrating on getting one key thing right 3) This is fairly new software, it has improved a lot since this video and I am sure they have a lot of enhancements yet to implement, I agree they need more explanation on settings and more flexibility but on the whole it is just going to improve, as will be the case with a lot of software based enhancement tools. And that brings me to my final point 4) Hardware in a camera body is hitting some limits, (rather than camcorder which still has some growing room as generally, bigger bodies are accepted), processing power and heat dissipation from that processing is only going to get trickier to manage, whereas, with a software solution you are offloading the processing to a device more suited to the task. So I would turn it round, I would say the people preferring to spend £4000ish on a Canon R5 rather than £200ish on some software are the ones with money to burn, just some food for thought 😊.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Good points... and I'd never considered using this for downscaling, although now you've mentioned it... makes sense! Topaz do seem to be upgrading and improving this software at regular intervals, so I'm already thinking of doing some more tests simply because it's changed quite a bit... especially for those not on Nvidia cards. Not sure about the overheating on the R5 though !!!

@Climber485

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot It wasn't meant to be a criticism of the R5 as such, more that we are demanding more and more capabilities to be crammed into a decreasing space. Activity generates heat, it's just physics, it has to go somewhere or things get fried. The R5 is a remarkable camera, no denying, but I suspect some significant buffers are being hit, it is also a substantial investment for most at this time, I just think there could be more bang for the buck in software solutions going forward. Upscaling by 400% approx. and keeping the same quality as the original or better is not a bad starting point. Which would you prefer, an R5 or photographic trip to Iceland with your existing camera and a bit of software?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@Climber485 Well put... I think we possibly put too much emphasis on the hardware in general. A trip to Iceland with any camera is going to be better than no trip! I'm not sure the R5 is a good example though... I suspect that's been intentionally crippled to protect the Canon Cinema cameras? Call me a cynic....

@Climber485

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot No! Canon? 😉 I still think heat dissipation is becoming a issue in high end cameras as specs get hiked and pressure exists to keep camera bodies small. BSI tech may mitigate that heat manifesting as noise, how much so I wouldn't know but if the temperature is not controllable in a range of conditions and just keeps increasing, you will have to shut it down at some point, I'd rather my PC heated up after the fact than my camera heat up in the field 😊, that's my view anyway. I have a Samsung NX1 and someone came up with a hack to increase the data throughput considerably but I have never applied it as I suspect it will reduce the cameras lifespan, perhaps I am wrong, perhaps times have changed and components are more robust, we will see over time I suppose if people start hacking their R5s etc. Perhaps that will force Canon to release a firmware update if someone comes up with a hack to take the gloves off the limitations?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@Climber485 There's already a few hacks to get around the silly timer... 2 hrs waiting to use the camera when it's stone cold is mad!

you don't have the render the videos fully to try each upscale AI setting, you can actually preview the upscale setting with the preview button on the upper right hand corner of the app which will generate a short preview.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

That's useful... I didn't realise you could save the preview. 👍

One thing you didn't mention, on pc at least, you are not entirely tied to mp4 as you can output your footage as a tiff image sequence . Indeed, this seems an eminently sensible option on larger projects, not only for the freedom to pick your own encoding options afterwards but in the case it fails halfway through you can just pick it up from the next frame.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow... I didn't realise. That's good information, Will it do a tiff for every frame? So 25 tiff's per second for me?

@noelplum99

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot yes.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@noelplum99 Thank Noel 👍

It can also be used to give a super slo-mo 4K on my drone footage. It will only do 4k 30fps natively but can do 1080p 120fps and I have upscaled it successfully to 4k. Not bad for a £500 drone and £180 of software.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

4K 120fps from a drone does sound impressive!

Very good review! Davinci Resolve upscaler hasn't give so good results, but this seems promising!

Thank you. You were right, Topaz did work.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it worked for you... cheers for the comment.

I think the 1080p to 4K is a much better improvement than SD to HD. It makes the video look much prettier

@AhmedAli-bw6lq

Жыл бұрын

this is paid software broo

@Mart-E12

Жыл бұрын

@@AhmedAli-bw6lq you don't have to pay if you know how

@AhmedAli-bw6lq

Жыл бұрын

@@Mart-E12 excatly i want to know how is it possible free ?

Subscribed just because you really know what you are doing. :-)

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... too kind!

Very instructive video. Thank you, as someone interested in the subject without the professional knowledge, I really do appreciate your clear explanations. Thanks for the hard work !!!

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Teva, very kind and appreciated!