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@eandsm4620

2 жыл бұрын

@ 16:13, the brick ranch house to the far left. I lived in that house for one year, when I was a freshman in HS.

Just stumbled on to your videos. Been to this area quite a bit over the years. I am originally from Kentucky. Just up the Ohio a bit in Henderson. My dad was from Marion KY just a stone's throw from Old Shawneetown. Seeing this town brings up stories from my dad. He use to go across the river to play music at one of the local honky tonks. On one of his trips over after he got done playing he was walking down the street waiting for his ride, the local Sheriff stopped him and arrested him for various charges. One of the charges was him only being 17 (1952) at the time. He looked older because he was 6'5 and 200 lbs. He said the Sheriff stole his guitars from him while he was sitting at the police station. My dad thinks one of his brothers told on him to keep him from going across the river to play music. His mom worried he would get in trouble. Well, he did. Lol He ended up getting on a train to go to California to be with his dad. They divorced 10 years earlier. Watching these videos brought back a lot of old memories with my pops. He passed 14 years ago. I now live in Utah, where moved to in 1979 the fifth and final time we moved between KY and Utah. I am doing my darndest to make my way back home. I miss that part of the country very much. I'm hoping I can make it back in the spring. Thanks for the video, brought back a lot of great memories. Take care

My mother family is from Southern Illinois and my best friend still lives in Galatia . Beautiful country. Love the videos

First Gallatin County courthouse used to sit where the equality water tower is now. I grew up in the Harrisburg area, that whole area has more history than you can fit in one video.

@ChrisHarden

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of places do.

I grew up in Shawneetown. The bank you were referring to is actually the red brick building next to the bridge (you can see it when you are coming over the bridge).

My family is from here Mom told about the floods there. I lived in Ridgway 13 mi from East of Shawneetown, which also was hit by the 2012 tornado. You forgot Junction which is where the Old Slave House is still located.

@teresakane4948

2 ай бұрын

My family is from there to the Raben's my moms name was Eva Raben Parker

Very well done!! I live on the Kentucky side of the river but Shawneetown will always be my home. 30+ years ago it was thriving, 90+ years ago it was bustling and 160+ years ago it was vital. The old photos show a completely different city, different time. Thank you for the wonderful depiction of my hometown.

@ei513563854

3 жыл бұрын

Bittersweet...I can tell. I lived in a town like that 40 years ago. I have such wonderful memories, when it seemed people were more decent, and recovery from1970s recession gave us hope, jobs. I know my parents struggled but stuck together through the hard parts. Ironically it was actually success and optimism that split them up. God bless.

I live in Harrisburg il and its the only town that still has a good bit of its original brick roads and a place you should check out is Rosieclar il it still has its original tram tracks you should check it out

@kcmap22

3 жыл бұрын

Pittsburg IL here.

@maryberkes6329

3 жыл бұрын

@@vitalsigns2679 no it's not. They turned it into a huge cinema. Arrowhead point is basically a strip mall grave. The only thing other than that out there is a Rural King where Walmart used to be.

I worked at the Wilcat Hills Mine between 2011-2012 in Equality, IL and lived in an Apt in Eldarado, IL, i am originally from Wabash County

My Dad was from Doris Heights in Harrisburg and my Mom was from Harco out of Galatia.

@jsned2502

2 ай бұрын

Did you know any Milligans?

Thank you. My wife and I are thinking about moving over in the Harrisburg area and we live out of state. You saved us the road trip

@ChrisHarden

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I do

@skye6471

3 жыл бұрын

Nostalgia Tours, any suggestion on where would be the best place to live on the boarder of Kentucky and Illinois?

@ChrisHarden

3 жыл бұрын

The whole region that you describe is economically shot. I’d say Paducah, or the Carbondale-Marion area. Harrisburg is alright I suppose. Not too many other places around there are all that great.

@skye6471

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it, thank you. It’s hard trying to find the right place while trying to move out of state

@maryberkes6329

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly with the money you would spend on a home in a larger metropolitan area, you would be able to own a really nice home. I live right outside the city limits, in a small rural area. Nice 5 acres of beautiful land. Two bedroom and a huge garage you can park a semi in. (yes the garage is larger than my home😂) but we can always expand.

I was an Administrator on the Illinois storm page on facebook and I used to write short weather related stories for the group...I wrote a story about this flood..There are a lot of interesting weather stories in states..Love this video...I am a weather nut ❤

I've watched about 5 of the Illinois videos (Great videos BTW) I couldn't agree more concerning the high taxes. It really doesn't do anybody any good. Hopefully some day politicians will realize this. Lower taxes, give incentives for industry, and bring in new jobs for these people.

Lived in Saline county for most of my life. The area is honestly really nice to settle down, with not being a big city and being near cities like Marion and Carbondale. I was in town the night of that 2012 tornado was a terrifing night for sure.

@superpete505

3 жыл бұрын

Also I'd recommend the Eldorado, Raleigh, Galatia and Muddy area. They are just a few miles from Harrisburg but have some great history as well.

@dallasmore6703

Жыл бұрын

My former classmates daughter was killed in that tornado. I do not miss IL tornados!

Thank you for giving us narratives about the flood plains. Good presentation

Love your historical work! Thanks! ❤

I had a buddy who lived in Southern Illinois so I spent quite a few weekends down that way back in the early 2000's. The one thing I noticed about that whole region is how everyone of these little towns look the same, each are also dying at the same rate but still find ways to hold on despite the grim reality. It's strange how you can be driving along and suddenly there are a few random side streets off the side of the road indicating there was once a town there, especially when there aren't even enough houses to justify how many streets are left in place in some of the areas.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

Agree. It’s a fascinating sight.

This part of Illionois is pretty sad and depressing in this era. Between the flooding of the river and economic trends over time, there is not much left of what was once a thriving economy. This area is so desolate now.

@michaelgarrity6090

2 жыл бұрын

For those who diss Chris for talking about the negatives of this state, he is not the only person making such videos talking about the depressed state of Illionois' economy. I see many others noting the same issues about the state, especially the southern part of the state.

@asafaust8869

2 жыл бұрын

Good point,; the Mighty Mississippi River is no joke. During the flood in 1993, it was terrifying seeing so much water that close to the bridge.

I can tell my grandparents that their house is famous now lol they live in Equality

@maryberkes6329

3 жыл бұрын

That is pretty cool huh ? I bet they will get a kick out of it..

Thank you for posting. I was born in gallatin county and live in saline now. Love your videos

Interesting video, & comments about life in southern IL. It’s so different from northern IL, like 2 different states altogether. Not much going on in these towns. It’s a shame that nothing has changed for the residents, just higher taxes, & not much to show for it, either. Doesn’t seem like they get much in the way of services.

@ChrisHarden

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@mrcappyp8410

3 жыл бұрын

@Sue Robinson you’re not far off, a group of people in Southern Illinois is trying and wanting to split the state in half,so we can have Northern IL and Southern IL, it’s been a big feud for ages

@maryberkes6329

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely! I grew up in joliet Illinois and moved to southern Illinois over 25 years ago. Honestly I would not move back to northern Illinois if my life depended on it. Southern Illinois is the gateway to the Shawnee national forest and if you love nature (as I do) you'll be proud to call it home..

@maryberkes6329

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrcappyp8410 due to all the tax dollars and funds going to mostly to larger cities like Chicago. I know life from both ends of the state.

@mrcappyp8410

3 жыл бұрын

@@maryberkes6329 I’m very proud to call Southern IL my home it saddens me to see blight houses or work places that is going to pot all over Southern IL you can tell what’s going on northern IL and Southern IL are two completely different places ,which is sad to see and the covid disaster didn’t help, but it would be neat to have the state cut in half and give Southern IL a timeline to see how people work to get Southern IL back in order and if it’s doing better than before it stays as it’s own state.. If they don’t do that they should give Government a timeline to fix stuff and if they don’t fix it in a certain time period they should be fined a certain amount of money and it should go to the places where it’s actually needed.

I've watched another couple that did a comparison between old shawneetown and Shawnee town. Your coverage was much better. There is a business there that was pretty interesting at one time.

just found out during my ancestry research that my Great grandmother was born there and my granddad. She resided in Shawneetown in 1920 on Washington Avenue. I also just found out that her name is on the monument that was put up in 2010. Her name was Sussie Portee.

Enjoyable and informative video Chris👍 Any chance you would do a video on Hardin and Pope counties? My Wife and I will be visiting that area in August☺ It looks to be a peaceful, pretty, and scenic area. We will be staying in Shawnee Forest near Golconda, getting away from it all for a bit. Fluorite Museum in Rosiclare looks interesting, as does Cave-In-Rock, Dixon Springs, etc. We've never been South of I-70 in Illinois before, so we're really looking forward to our trip to Southern Illinois.

@dallasmore6703

Жыл бұрын

I was born and raised there, what do you want to know

@ohioalphornmusicalsawman2474

Жыл бұрын

@@dallasmore6703 Had a wonderful time there last August😁 Garden of the Gods and Cave in Rock were beautiful!! We enjoyed everything while down there. Diver Down restaurant in Golconda was really good, as was the riverboat restaurant in Elizabethtown excellent Catfish dinner😁

Man, that looks peaceful there.

Wish you would stop by that historical marker in new Shawnee.

There are probably more dogs then people in Old shawneetown

1.87 for fuel I miss thos days

Walmart's not too much cheap anymore they're almost the same as any other store

It is my father’s home town. My brother lives there now.

The old Shawneetown looks way better and peaceful I see why the ppl that’s still living there stayed jmo

6:00 We appreciate the rough territory you have to endure out there.

Good video. It’s a shame what happens to smaller rural towns. Does the governor have any plan for these areas to stimulate growth and not tax what’s left to death?

Is there not a prison in that region names Shawnee?

what kinda music do you use?

@tomfields3682

Жыл бұрын

It's from the score of the movie O Brother Where Art Thou.

How do you put a building on a historic registry and not have it rehabbed basically it's going to fall down

Even tho this area is poor and the rest of southern Illinois, it’s actually pretty clean. I been to several trips there, and the litter isn’t bad at all. I can’t compare to the rest of the state but southern Illinois isn’t bad. I wish people here in Mississippi took some pride in our state, instead of making our roads and highways look like a landfill!

They say Harrisburg has a haunted house in it and the last person who tried to stay in it ended up dying

I live in Harrisburg. You did a good job. You missed a lot of the area's history, though.

@JBguitar-cj8pc

Жыл бұрын

I live in NC but my dad and his family (Brown) are from Harrisburg. My grandparents used to own a restaurant called Memory’s in downtown. The building is still there (kinda near Mackies pizza I believe) but I’m not sure what it is now. Not much to do there but I do love visiting and seeing my family there.

@bridgetmccarthy7333

Жыл бұрын

I’m visiting this weekend

Was in this area staying at a very pretty state camp ground about 2 years ago. People were nice there but the poverty is overwhelming. The video's comment about denial is misplaced. Illinois citizens have ended the careers of many state reps, and one governor, over even suggesting modest raises in taxes. The state is filled with citizens that deny taxes are needed to make lives better -- and the majority are from down state not up state. Chicagoans and suburbanites know that students don't teach themselves, roads don't heal themselves, and businesses look for places with a good infrastructure, and allow for tax revenues that support that. A place with good schools, and services are where people try to live and what businesses seek. People leave towns with bad service and businesses don't even look at places that don't have this. The cycle of bad services happen when a place is deprived of enough revenue to provide those services -- not the other way around.

Any potential opportunities for affordable Pasture for Lease in Southern Illinois?? No, not interested in Crop Ground...

@mikekeeler6362

Жыл бұрын

China is buying up that farmland soon their own most of southern Illinois

There's nowhere else to shop because of Wal Mart.

@mikekeeler6362

Жыл бұрын

Yes Walmart runs everybody else out of town

Fun fact my lil sister name is Shawnee 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Imma tell her she’s has two towns and she was named after the Indian tribe “Shawnee”

You should go live and vote in Indiana or ky, I've lived in both, I'll stay Illinois thanks

I was born in Harrisburg and grew up in Rosiclare and Golconda. Harrisburg and Paducah were about equal distance and were considered "TOWN". We played Equality and Shawneetown in basketball. Old Shawneetown was considered to be a "Rough" town, someplace you went if you were looking for trouble, a place to drunk, gamble, whore and fight. Harrisburg and Womble Mountain and Williams Mountain (Named after my ancestors) are where the hills of Shawnee National Forest end and the corn and beanfields begin. If you're lucky enough to be born into a family in which your father was a state or federal employee, or worked for a mine and/or was in a union you could probably get a job, that or you had to buy your way in via a "Campaign Contribution", other than that you had to either go work on the tow boats or join the military. I worked for the IDOC and then joined the military. IL is as corrupt as it gets! Federal, State and Local municipal politics are as corrupt as it gets! Not only do you need to be a legacy, you better be a good democrat if you want a job.

At least they have a population the town of Beto Missouri population 4

Great area to snake hunt.

Your quick to condemn property taxes in Illinois, it wouldn't be near as bad if farmers didn't pay a ridiculously low rate.

@marcmo7138

2 жыл бұрын

I was having a dinner with friends that happen to farm. I drive a semi and made a comment about all of the farmers holding up traffic with their tractors. My friend said "don't talk with your mouth full" I got the message loud and clear. So, I'm ok with farmers paying lower taxes. They feed us is what I'm saying.

Illinois is in a current state is defined by it's POLITICS, People in general are fed up with the ruling government.

28:50 the good old days when our rightful president was still in charge.