The VHS-Decode project sounds just like how I would have attempted to tackle the issue if I were to figure it out myself. Thanks for making me aware of it so I don't have to reinvent the wheel.

@videocaptureguide

3 күн бұрын

If you have 2 hours, you can get some good context on the LaserDisc project that gave birth to the VHS-Decode project. What I found interesting is that the guy behind the RF extraction of LaserDiscs calls the VHS-Decode project immature at this stage. The RetroRGB guy is mostly concerned with VHS tapes so he presses them for info. Sounds like you are a technical guy and so I think this interview will be very useful to you as you get into this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/famZtcSSo5rffbg.html

My tip for a capture device. A Sony DCR TRV 320 (or similar) camcorder. They will digitise analogue video fed into them and spit out .avi via FireWire. They will also play 8mm, Hi8 and digital 8 tapes. If you then get yourself a mini DV camcorder as well, you have most camcorder formats covered. Do NOT buy the later 400 series, they don't do pass-through and they don't play analogue tapes. And they have a dodgy image sensor that goes bad on all of them. Ask me how I know.

Years ago I bought a new Panasonic VHS, it also has DVD player. It also has a cross recording/ transfer function built-in. It also has HDMI output and a built-in digital tuner. Very high quality players. I'm sure these can be had for almost nothing on eBay now. To do a transfer you just put a blank DVD in and push a couple buttons. You now have a perfect digital transfer. If you want to keep it really simple, on the cheap, with top quality.

Thanx for the video. I haven't done this for a while now but I used to play the VHS tape back thru an old mini DV camcorder via a Firewire card into the PC and then edit.

@joshj88

15 күн бұрын

This is my way since you get a tbc in the camcorder.

@videocaptureguide

15 күн бұрын

I did another video where I compared this method. In truth, there isn't any noticeable difference between the MiniDV method and the capture card method. You might still need an ES-10/15 passthrough for some wonky VHS tapes but MiniDV as capture device is acceptable in my opinion, even though some will poo-poo it because it is a lossy format. If I redo this video I will add a MiniDV camcorder workflow to the list of workflows.

First of all, great video! I've been doing this for about 15 years now, and I still learned some new things. There are a few observations I had that you and your viewers may want to know. 1. I have a JVC HR-S9500U. The video stabilizer can be useful if the picture on the tape is very "jumpy". This happens on only a few tapes, but when it does it's good to be able to control it. The downside is that on my model(and I believe a few others) turning the stabilizer on, will turn the TBC off. You can only use one at a time. 2. I was going to point out that you didn't turn the Superimpose setting off(this will eliminate the display that says "PLAY" "STOP" "TRACKING" etc.) It may not be a feature on yours, but if it is I would turn it off for capture so that you don't have that on your capture if there is something at the very beginning of the tape. 3. I saw that when you went to restore you encoded the audio to 320kb/s AAC. If that's your preference I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong, but for me if we're spending this much effort to fix the video, we should at least leave the uncompressed PCM audio from the capture uncompressed. It doesn't make much of a size difference(probably about 100MB Vs. 1GB for like a 2 hour recording.

@videocaptureguide

4 күн бұрын

Thank you for these tips. When it comes to the sound setting in Hybrid, I’m still learning. There have been times where I got an error message that prevented me from exporting so I’ve been superstitious about it and if I doesn’t block me, I don’t mess with those audio settings!

@poppunkpickersebaydemos

4 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide Ah, I feel that. I've always used Virtualdub with AVIsynth scripts for QTGMC work, so I'm not familiar with the quirks of Hybrid. I also use AMARec for capture since even from my JVC the audio goes out of sync with Virtualdub. I just recently got a ES-15, so I might have to try it again. Not sure if there's much of a difference though, I still capture in HuffYUV.

Video calibration is like B.E.S.T (Biconditional Equalised Signal Tracking) in European and multi system Models. It doesn't matter if you turn it off after inserting the tape, it won't do anything after the tape has been sensed, It is like Bias in audio tapes, It senses the RF level and adjusts the heads coils current accordingly, it keeps the same parameters until the tape is ejected, So just keep it on all the time. R3 in the other hand should be set to on only if it improves the quality, It is an edge sharpening feature and often produces ringing, so keep it OFF unless it is needed.

@videocaptureguide

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it.

@khaos182

Ай бұрын

Hello! You use B.E.S.T mode? I always switch to OFF...

@Capturing-Memories

Ай бұрын

@@khaos182 No, It should be always on, It can't worsen the quality, it only improves it or does nothing, most of the time there isn't much improvement that can be visually discerned, So being ON is not going to hurt anything.

@videoediting7925

Ай бұрын

So, should video calibration (BEST) be left on or not? Can you turn it on for a few sections so it senses the tape, and then turn it off? Would you get all the benefit from that feature?

@Capturing-Memories

Ай бұрын

@@videoediting7925 Leave it on all the time and let it do its work, Each tape formulation is calibrated once you insert a tape, Not all tapes created equal, that's why it works every time you insert a tape.

Here I am watching, I don't even have VHS tape and or want to all of this. I find these old tech really fascinating, remember we used to have those strudy plastic buttons for everything? Now there's only touch here and there :d

I captured a VHS tape to my PC ages ago (2006) using an ordinary VHS VCR, composite output into an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 7500, and VirtualDub as the capture software, and it came out perfectly fine. There may have been some dropped frames, but nothing that caused any noticeable problems, and the audio didn't lose sync. Also, it had a perfectly stable image. It certainly didn't have even a hint of the problems that your "Regular VHS Player" example clip at 5:31 has. I still have the video on my PC.

@videocaptureguide

22 күн бұрын

If it worked well, then you're done. A regular VHS player (with no Line TBC and no S-Video port) can definitely be good enough. As things being equal, if someone is new to this, and wants to eek out every little tiny improvement, then I would still recommend an SVideo player. I guess there are two ways to look at it: (1) the VHS tape is so bad by today's standards that it's not worth worrying about; (2) the VHS tape is so bad by today's standards that you need to need to do everything possible to make it as good as possible. 🤷‍♀

@MaximRecoil

22 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide The point is: your video makes it seem like you'll inevitably get the unwatchable results like your "Regular VHS Player" example clip at 5:31 if you use a regular VHS VCR, which isn't the case at all. Something was drastically wrong with the setup (or the tape itself) of whoever made that transfer that you showed in your example clip. Using a VHS machine with no TBC will give you results that are just as stable as using an S-VHS machine with no TBC, because there's nothing about S-video (Y/C) that's inherently more stable than composite. You may get slightly improved picture quality with the S-video connection, which may or may not be noticeable, but that's the only potential advantage of S-video over composite. There's a Technology Connections video where he shows his analog tape capture method, and he just uses a cheap composite-to-HDMI converter from Amazon, along with an HDMI capture device. He never has stability problems using composite. If you haven't seen it it's called "The Best Easy Way to Capture Analog Video (it's a little weird)"

@videocaptureguide

22 күн бұрын

@@MaximRecoil Understood. If I made it seem like a regular VHS player produces unwatchable results, I apologize. That wasn't my intention. The tape I used was from the mid 1980s, recorded in SLP (EP), and is my worst tape. I use that tape to test to see how well equipment handles these types of errors. Many and hopefully most VHS tapes won't suffer those problems. For those with especially family videos that look like that, I want them to know there is a way to get good results. So, bottom line, yes, one can use a regular VHS player with an ES-15 and it will fix the tearing issues.

@Doman2000

19 күн бұрын

@@MaximRecoil Yes this exactly, many guides exaggerate the use of a regular VHS player producing unacceptable results which is just not true. If you use a normal VHS player with stabilization, be it a real TBC or the mentioned DVD recorders, you can also get excellent comparable results. Also you then can take advantage of the COMB filter which often does a better job separating the Y/C signal compared to the many simple capture cards. For regular VHS the difference of a good capture between composite or Y/C is not that huge, more important is the overall playback quality of the VCR. I have several JVC S-VHS players, also with TBC, but i often prefer using a normal (Panasonic) VCR with the mentioned DVD recorder because it gives me a better overall looking result.

@shortcat

17 күн бұрын

Thing is, VHS isn't that bad by today's standards. KZread compression at 1080p may be much worse than a VHS in high motion scenes. A good capture method makes a real difference.

Finally! An indepth "vhs to digital" video with a method that fills me with hope. I can't thank you enough for making this. Like many people, I had no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes when trying to digitise tape. I tried the cheap usb devices on amazon then progressed to the AV-to-HDMI method using OBS, but kept running into issues (distorted video, overly dark colors, audio-sync issues). I almost gave up when I learned how expensive TBC's are - but this video has helped everything to make more sense. If the video creator sees my comment I'd be extremely grateful if he could help with a couple of questions: 1. Is there a particular reason for recommending the Diamond VC500 over the host of other USB capture devices (e.g. the Elgato video capture)? I'd love to know if it has any properties that make it a superior choice in your testing. 2. I'm trying to digitise 8mm tape (standard Video8): Am I correct in thinking that I need to get a Sony Handycam which has an S-video OUT for your "DVD time base corrector" method to work? My current sony handycam only has red/yellow/white outputs - and I'm guessing if I plug RCA cables into a DVD player then use DVD player S-video out to the capture device, that I won't get the same benefits? Thanks again! Liked, subscribed & bookmarked - will be trying this method over the next few months if I can get the equipment - I'm in the UK but presumably same/similar equipment will be available.

@videocaptureguide

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I made this video to provide the big picture overview because I was lost when I started reading the forums. To answer your questions. 1. At some point when I was reading the DigitalFAQ forums, I read (or maybe inferred) that the Diamond VC500 was an acceptable capture device. However, in reviewing the forum again, it seems that some versions of the VC500 have this weird issue where during a scene the contrast/brightness will suddenly change. It's not that way in the source video. So, there's a question mark here, but given that the VC500 is readily available at Amazon and it pretty inexpensive, I think it is a safe choice for an average person who wants to digitize and not go too deep down the rabbit hole. The VC500 is definitely better than the DVD recorder method. Regarding the Elgato, the consensus on DigitalFAQ is that it is not as good as the recommended choices. I don't know if it is any worse than the VC500. But it gets a lot of hate from the experts in part because it relatively expensive. But the experts acknowledge that the Elgato is much better than EasyCap (aka EasyCrap) and the other cheap no-name brands on Amazon. 2. All my old tapes were Video8 (8mm tape) so I could have bought a Video8 camcorder. The reason I bought a Hi8 camcorder was because (a) Hi8 camcorders can output via S-Video cable (b) it outputs left and right audio (c) the are newer model years than Video8 (typically) so it will fail further in the future, and (d) if I even have to transfer Hi8 tapes, I will be able to. Digital8 camcorders were the next step and could play Digital8 tapes, Hi8 tapes, and Video8 tapes. So, if you can find one of those at a good price, get it. Many (but not all) Sony Hi8 camcorders have a Line TBC. Unlike SVHS players where this feature was more rare, there are a lot of Sony Hi8 camcorders with this superpower. So, do you still need a Panasonic ES-10 or ES-15 in the workflow? Ugg. I am still testing that. I have captured Hi8 --> ES-15 --> ATI AIW 9600XT. And it looks good and audio/video sync is good. But the ES-15 will make the video look more washed out, so I've also capture Hi8 --> ATI AIW 9600XT. And I think I was able to get audio/video in sync. I would need to run this test again to see. Sorry I can't be more definitive. But if you so Hi8 --> ATI AIW 9600XT and the video is not jumpy and the audio/video is in sync at the end then you are good. You don't need an ES-15, at least for that tape. It sounds like you have a Video8 camcorder, currently, as it only has composite output (aka RCA, AKA yellow, white, red cables). I've wondered whether sending the chroma+luma over the SVideo wire into the ES-15 and then sending it out from the ES-15 to the capture device improves the image. I don't know the answer. I *think* the answer is that if the device splitting the chroma+luma is doing it well (ie, it has a good decomb filter) then it is making the video look better. I have to assume, however, that outputting from a Hi8 camcorder's SVideo port will be better. But with all these things, the question is will it be noticeable. I have concluded that the only person who will notice and care is you. No one will know how much time you spent thinking about and preserving the home movies. They will be happy to see them no matter what quality they are in.

@TTVEaGMXde

19 күн бұрын

I would always switch off the BEST tape measurement system for recordings because it obviously doesn't help with playback. I would switch off the TBC because JVC has installed various "good" (jump vertically 1 Line) TBCs, only a few of which can keep up with the Panasonic DMR-ES10 EG (PAL) TBC/Synchronizer chip (MN673744 as in the canopus ADVC-300), which causes about 3 frames of delay between picture and sound. EDIT I would turn it on if you can turn off "DigiPure" (artificial looking image). In NTSC countries it makes a lot of sense to use S-Video connections, as the NTSC color carrier reaches down to just over 2 MHz. In PAL countries it's not so bad because the Y signal only goes up to about 3.15 MHz, and the lower sideband of the color carrier can only reach down to 3.43 MHz. Unfortunately, my knowledge of English is not sufficient to understand the color problem that you have with Panasonic recorders. I didn't notice anything with PAL on my DMR-E55 EG. Result of the old (outdated) solution with PAL S-VHS tape: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2mfu7Z8p7y8qZs.html The Panasonic DMR-ES10 PAL is much better when the DMR-ES15 PAL: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5Os18dxXcqtfLA.html😉The Diamond VC500 USB grabber is said to have the same chip (CX23103) as the Elgato grabber, which makes both grabbers unusable for PAL tapes since the chip can only output NTSC. My next solution should run with Panasonic NV-HS900 EG (PAL S-VHS recorder with K drive), S-Video, Pioneer DVR-560H (DVD/HDD combination recorder with Video adjusting, PAL) as TBC with 4:4:4 HDMI output to Blackmagic DeckLink Mini Recorder HD (PCIe 2.0 Card). In the ITU-R BT 601 (CCIR 601) standard (NTSC/PAL without color), the lower even lines come first (lower field first), followed by the higher odd lines. But not all programmers handle it correctly. You should record UNCOMPRESSED (72 GB/h). You should only compress after denoising at the earliest. "Obsolete Video" is convinced by HitPaw Video Enhancer, which can still change at the beginning of AI. OBS Studio cannot do interlaced Video and is therefore out. As a TV engineer from Hamburg, I unfortunately cannot correct all of Google Translate's errors.

@DoubleMonoLR

15 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide Many(or quite possibly all)Digital8 cameras that support Video8/Hi8 can also convert these tapes to a digital signal, to be transmitted over firewire just like Digital8 recordings. That option may not be the absolute best(compared to s-video output, TBC, quality capture card etc), but is probably likely to not be far off & easier/cheaper if you have a Digital8 camera already.

@videocaptureguide

15 күн бұрын

@@DoubleMonoLR I agree. 👍 I think that for many people who just want a simple solution, this would be an acceptable way to do it, especially if they already have this hardware and don't want to invest in more hardware.

@dave_dw34

13 күн бұрын

@@DoubleMonoLR I wanted to try this method myself. From memory you need a firewire 400 to 800 adapter , then a firewire 800 to thunderbolt 2 adapter , then finally a thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter. My understanding is not *all* digital8 cameras will work for this. I had to google and find lists of model numbers. Most of the online tutorials I've seen say it's only the apple cables which work well, and since they've stopped selling some of them, they are quite expensive now. I'm in the UK and I think I was looking at approx £150 just for the cables, then another £150+ for a digital8 camera off ebay. I'm reluctant to take a risk for my precious home memories on an ebay purchase which could theoretically eat my tapes. My current sony camera may only be component, but at least it works. But you're right , for people who alreay have the Digital8, this method might be okay. If you have a mac I did read you can just use quicktime and record using that with this method.

THIS! Finally, a video that gives me OPTIONS! Something that the channel Technology Connections kind of left us hanging on.

I use DaVinci resolve too but after these few years with it. I didn’t know about the auto colour balance feature until this video. Nice one!

@videocaptureguide

13 күн бұрын

If you want to go even further, watch this guy's excellent tutorial, specifically, how to apply auto color in an even better way that gives even better results: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gICIj7Gzn9iYYNo.htmlsi=8jBIMKPgT6OBKxzQ&t=40 I didn't go into this because it's more advanced, but it's really not hard to do. I'm not an expert in Davinci and definately not a professional colorist, but I've seen some good tutorials and try to apply the basic fixes. Good luck!

Excellent vid with helpful info. I have a Panasonic DMR-EZ28; will that work well or should I seek out an ES 10/ES 15?

@videocaptureguide

22 күн бұрын

According to a discussion at DigitalFAQ.com, the Panasonic EZ series came after the ES series. And whatever magic was inside the ES-10 and ES-15 didn't make it into the EZ-28. Someone with an EZ-28 says "the Panasonic DMR-EZ28 has no effect on the pass through image." www.digitalfaq.com/forum/video-capture/3237-jvc-7600u-problem.html So, it's not comparable to the ES-10 or ES-15. The good news is that the ES-15 and ES-16 DVD recorders were fairly popular and I see one from sale in my local Facebook Marketplace about ever other month for about $50 to $100. And I even got lucky one day and found one at a thrift store for $15. So, unlike the very hard to find/expensive SVHS players with Line TBC, the Panasonic ES-10 and ES-15 are more common. By the way, for Canadian readers the ES-16 is the same as the ES-15, but marketed in Canada.

YES!!!! I've been planning to restore some home videos for years, but all the capture devices I've tried (from Sony to Hauppauge) still had a lot of flagging, chroma smear, etc. My first "real" job was working in a video production/editing studio in the 90's, where I learned about NTSC standards and what editors look for in footage; virtually every problem I can think of are created with those devices. However, your walk-through will get me to a place I can finally get something usable and understand what's happening, PLUS your resources will be what I need to read and learn to improve my results. Thank you so much!!!

@videocaptureguide

16 күн бұрын

In the 1990s, my first editing system was an RCA Video8 camcorder, a VHS player, a home stereo system that I used to add music. I got my first video editing PC in March 1999. I never used the (pre-computer) video editing systems. I've seen some used ones on ebay and I'm tempted to try it out. Did you ever use those video editors at that first job?

@SpunkMonkey

16 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide I didn't get to edit, but watched and learned so I could do better work on the off-line equipment. Much of my time was logging scene timecode numbers from a VHS copy so the editors had the numbers handy. Eventually I began using After Effects and Premier in the following decade, but watching a "real" editor at work is a learning experience. ;-)

Love the tutorial! For me, I use USB Live-2 for capturing from my JVC S VHS (with Panasonic DMR-ES15) to AmarecTV, then using avs to do scripting (cleaning up image, de-interlacing etc.) for Avisynth and add to Vdub and finish from there, seems to be way better for me than doing it straight from Vdub as I have nothing but issues with it anyways.

@videocaptureguide

Ай бұрын

I used AmarecTV at the start because was convinced by DigitalFAQ to use VirtualDub 1.9.11 because it showed when there was dropped frames, while AmarecTV doesn't say. Did you try to capture with vdub 1911 or vdub2? I know that vdub2 has issues for capture which is why the original is recommended.

@videogametv7448

Ай бұрын

@@videocaptureguide So I tried with both Vdub 1 and 2, maybe it's because it is wonky with Windows 11? My amarectv shows dropped frames. I think it depends on what version you have.

Thanks for this great video. Very comprehensive. I am using this as my go to guide to re-do some VHS/HI8 video captures/digitizing in the hopes of gaining improved quality. I have used OBS to get started, but see that VirtualDub 1.9.11 version is recommended. I also see that there is a VirtualDub2. Is there a reason not to use VirtualDub2? Since i am using a Windows 10 version, i am also going to use the Diamond VC500 capture as you recommended and not the ATI's (which i see seems to be more for Window's 98 machines). Curious if can still follow your workflow (including the Hybrid and Davinci Resolve for image / denoise enhancements with my set up. Apologies if i sound like a newbie.

@videocaptureguide

16 күн бұрын

The experts don't recommend VirtualDub2 for capture because of dropped frames or other weird issues. It is okay to use VirtualDub2 for the enhancement phase and there is a good video on YT explaining how to use AviSynth in VirtualDub2. But I find it easier to use Hybrid, which is a UI for AviSynth and Vapoursynth. And, yes, you can use your modern Windows computer for the enhancement stuff. What I do is capture on my Windows XP machine, then copy the AVI files to a WD Elements 1TB USB hard drive (the one that gets its power from the USB port) and then copy the files to my Windows 10 machine. Regarding the Diamond VC500, it is an okay choice. But I have read more recently from the user lollo that he uses and likes the I-O Data GV-USB2. It costs a bit more, but if I was remaking the video I would recommend this new one based entirely on what lollo said. It is available new at Amazon.

@ctkeeper9509

16 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide Thank you so much! Good luck with this channel. Ur explanations and visuals are very helpful.

I believe some VCR/DVD combo units also have somewhat of a frame TBC. I'm sure my Sony RDR-VX525 has a TBC, but one issue it has is that a small sliver on the left side of the s-video output is slightly darker for some reason. Maybe it's just my unit. I'm sure there are ways in software to compensate for horizontally wiggly video like a line TBC would fix, and a frame TBC really only helps prevent dropouts for capture devices that don't handle unstable video very well (e.g. surprisingly the AJA Kona LHe+.) So not all of the expensive equipment is necessary for a good capture.

@videocaptureguide

29 күн бұрын

The issue of frame TBC versus frame synchronizers hurts my brain. No matter how many times I read about it, I still get confused. I believe that the Panasonic ES-10 and ES-15 (and possibly the Sony you mention) have frame synchronizers that (maybe?) help keep audio and video in sync (sort of) but are not frame TBCs, per se. The Datavideo TBC-1000 has a frame synchronizer and a frame TBC, so that's why people associate these two features, even though they are different. But still can't explain in my own words how they are different. Here's an explanation, which I have re-read for the 15th time and am still confused. I guess I'm more of a visual learner and I cannot picture some of this stuff. www.studio1productions.com/Articles/TBC.htm

Hi there. Thanks for the video. Any suggestions for the following set up? JVC HR-DVS1U + I-O Data GV-USB2 + Windows 10, plus the software you mentioned. Is it enough? Thanks!

@videocaptureguide

13 күн бұрын

I have the DVS3U, we which I assume is essentially the same VCR. It has a line TBC and so is a great choice. The GV-USB2 gets a lot of love from many including the video restorer lollo, so another good choice. In my experience, even with these two items, you might still get dropped frames, which can lead to make the audio video go out of sync, at least on some tapes. I'm working on a new video where I compare number of dropped frames from 60 minutes playing the same VHS tape in different workflows. Spoiler: the DVK-200 and ES-15 give me the same (small) number of dropped frames. So I recommend you be on the lookout for the fairly inexpensive ES-10 or ES-15 and use it on VHS tapes with lots of problems.

@maups2

13 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide thanks for the prompt reply!

How well does a video mixer like the Videonics MX-1 (which I still own) or Sima SFX-9/10 work as a TBC?

@videocaptureguide

16 күн бұрын

I have not used these but from what I read at DigitalFAQ the MX-1 is supposed to be comparable to the DVK. However the MX-1 was known to get hot so it is important to use in a ventilated space.

Something seems wrong... so I exported the video from Hybrid and it's 1440x1080 - it looks great. But after doing the color modification and exporting it from DaVinci Resolve it's reduced to the 940x720 with large black borders all around it? Why would we be reducing it to 940x720 at this step? From looking online it seems like there is a resolution mismatch even though I told DaVinci to adjust... is there another setting somewhere I missed in the video or the video didn't cover?

@videocaptureguide

3 күн бұрын

File--Project Settings Timeline Resolution: Custom For 1440 x 1080 processing Save In Deliver, make sure Export Video shows the same resolution.

Great video! For the record, the difference between a line TBC and a frame TBC is that a frame TBC merely makes sure that individual frames come out exactly on time, that is exactly the right number of milliseconds apart. A line TBC on the other hand, stores all of the 262.5 lines in a field in memory and then send them out with the exact correct time in between them. If you look at the left side edge of a picture from a VHS machine, you will see that it forms a very wiggly line. This is due to the fact that the lines are not starting at the exact correct times and this is due to the fact that the tape stretches and causes the lines to vary in timing. When the lines do not start at the same time, they stay out of time throughout the entire picture and this creates a general fuzziness. When the lines all start at exactly the same time then they stay aligned with each other throughout the picture and the picture is much sharper.

@videocaptureguide

23 күн бұрын

Thank you for this. You have inspired the next video.

@ScottGrammer

23 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide I'll be watching for it!

in HuffYUV vs Lagarith -- lagarith is less CPU intensive for encoding and still does a good job at the amount of compression.

@videocaptureguide

13 күн бұрын

Thanks for this. I used Lagarith originally because I had a problem installing HuffYUV. But then I figured it out. And now I just like saying it more than "Lagarith", which sounds like the name of the evil empire on every sci-fi show.

Could you possible tell me what the settings in Hybrid for Pal would be please?

@videocaptureguide

9 күн бұрын

I'm not a expert in Hybrid and I'm not sure if you are asking about cropping or PAR or something else. You can ask at the Hybrid forum as Selur answers. forum.selur.net/

Been in the professional digitize business for 30+ years. TBC is really not necessary if you have good capture equipment. Pretty much any moniDV, Digital 8 camera and the digital players like the GVD800 GVHD700 ect will accept your composite or S video and spit out a 4:1:1 DV stream which is the same as DV and Digital 8 encided on the tape. Then firewire into the PC and capture with your favorite software. You end up with a 480i 25mbit stream which then you can either save as a .avi or export it in whatever format turns your crank. Another option which I have found to be very good is the stand alone recorder boxes from CA. Depending on the model it can turn out high bit rate .mp4 directly in either the native 480i or will up convert to 720p60 or 1080p60 and you can choose 4:3 or stretch to 16:9 if you don't want black bars. Depending on device it will accept composite, component, RGB, and even HDMI inputs. Since I deal regularly with betacam SP which is a component format this comes in handy as I can take the direct Y, R-Y and B-Y outputs directly and spit out a picture that is as good as I have seen. An old videonics MX1 mixer works great as a frame store TBC if needed but with the hardware I am using I have not needed it except with dealing with macrovision.

@videocaptureguide

2 күн бұрын

Hi @12voltvids. I'm a fan of your channel. Watched a lot of your videos. When I was entering the rabbit hole a few years ago, I must have watched your TBC demo video several times. I have been doing more tests for this channel to compare different options, and I think I am coming around to your way of viewing it. Leaving out the MiniDV camcorder option in my list was an oversight, as I think it is a good choice for most people. I appreciate the feedback. Also, what is your go-to workflow?

@12voltvids

2 күн бұрын

If customer wants. AVI I use the GV-HD700. If they want mp4 it goes straight into the CA in full quality mode 1080p60 set to 4:3 aspect. That gives an 8 gig per hour .mp4 files. Then I go direct to a USB stick for client. 9 out of 10 want a DVD copy as well for backup. I can do this in real time. Vhs or camera into the DVD recorder and the hdmi (upscale to 1080p) directly into capture box. I use a toshiba dvr7, it has firewire in. So I can use the hd700 to digitize to firewire and take that into toshiba and then to the ca capture box. I do high volume digitizing so not needing to use the computer is a bonus as I can be capturing video while doing other stuff on computer. I have been doing this for years including broadcast tapes betacam sp, sx and umatic for broadcast professionals. Needless to say they are pretty picky for quality and they have all been very happy.

Question, if the recorded video stored on a regular vhs tape is stored as a composite pal or ntsc signal what benefit does separating the signal into chroma and luma via svideo give you? The main benefit of using a svhs player is generally because they are higher quality players with a better quality deck and internals. The only thing I could think of is the fact that the comb filter circuit built into the svhs player is of higher quality than the composite destination you’d be connecting it to. Svideo allows you to bypass this. This is debatable though because given the age of these players unless they’ve had extensive servicing done with all electrolytic capacitors replaced it’s hard to know whether or not this circuitry is performing to spec. Personally I’ve done all my recording on my Loewe 5106H which uses a Panasonic k deck mechanism and output it to a Sony DVD recorder and was very happy with the results.

@videocaptureguide

10 күн бұрын

The question you raised is an excellent one. I have heard both sides with references to science and stuff I don't understand. I plan on testing the S-Video cable v. Composite cable in a future video. I suspect that, like most of these debates, the differences-if any-are minor. And we do the things we do because it makes us feel good.

@TheWretchedWorld

10 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide I might actually purchase a serviced and restored svhs player to test this theory as there is one listed in the local classifieds albeit it’s not particularly cheap. But I want to know the answer myself.

Hmm...I've screwed something up along the way! My video is exporting inside a black box, like it's both letterboxed AND pillarboxed. The original file coming from Hybrid is 1440x1080 and 4:3, and I set the export to be the same size as a custom setting...and it comes out looking like something shot through a pinhole camera! Where did I go wrong? :P

@videocaptureguide

13 күн бұрын

I feel you pain. The settings for Crop, Resize, Letterbox, Input PAR, and Output PAR all interact with each other and it can get confusing. Can you share a screenshot of your settings screen and place the link to, say, Imgur here so we can check out your settings.

@trog1212

11 күн бұрын

​@@videocaptureguide I decided to ask ChatGPT for the heck of it, and actually got the steps to follow there. So, I guess I figured it out...also saved the steps for future reference!

Started on another project, and now for some reason there is no "cut start/cut end" option...what gives? I suppose I could trim it before or afterward in some other program, but I'd prefer to do it all at once.

@videocaptureguide

3 күн бұрын

That’s odd. In Hybrid settings go to Config->Internals->Cut Support and make sure it is turned on. Or restart Hybrid. Or restart computer. Or download the latest version of Hybrid and try that fresh install instead. Let us know what happens as I’m sure others will have the same issue in the future.

@trog1212

15 сағат бұрын

@@videocaptureguide Yeah, that (cut support) brought it back. T'anks!

My Question is ( does this method better than USB capture like Elgato ) ? or does this card better than blackmagic card?

@videocaptureguide

17 күн бұрын

I have not tested the Elgato capture device. However the experts at DigitalFAQ considering it to be an okay but not great option. It is comparable they say to the Diamond VC500. But the Elgato is more expensive. Both are better than the EasyCap, which produces unacceptable quality results they say. Unfortunately the EasyCap appears prominently at Amazon and, so, sells a lot of units. The expert user Lollo says he uses the I-O Data GV-USB2 and said it is better than the old ATI 600. The GV-USB2 is available at Amazon. If I didn’t already have an ATI 9600XT and ATI600, I would probably buy the I-O Data GV-USB2. I would not buy the Elgato.

@user-cw5oj8zk7l

17 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide sounds great , But Elgato is support lossy format. thats why we need to have card support lossless to have better picture. I really would like to make another video about lossy and lossless and what is the exact differences

@user-cw5oj8zk7l

17 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide I would like to ask , is ATI AIW All in wonder 9800 pro 128 AGP video card has same function with u ?

@videocaptureguide

16 күн бұрын

@@user-cw5oj8zk7l I misspoke in the video. I have the ATI All-In-Wonder 9600XT (not 9800XT). It is a capture card that connects to the AGP port on the motherboard. Modern motherboards don't have AGP ports. I had to buy an ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2, which I bough new/never used in a box from someone on Facebook Marketplace. I added a CPU (Core 2 Duo E7500) and the rest of the items need for a computer.

@videocaptureguide

16 күн бұрын

I think the Elgato USB Video Capture device saves captured video with H.264 compression. While this is an acceptable compression as a final distribution video file, it is not good if you plan on enhancing your video in Hybrid, Topaz Video AI, or some other software. The H.264 codec is lossy, which means it does very clever things to keep the video file size as low as possible. But that makes further enhancements less good than they would have been. I don't know if you can use VirtualDub to capture video from the Elgato and select the preferred compression (HuffYUV or Lagarith).

You missed a biggie in the VirtualDub setup section. I’m not sure about the AllInWonder, but with my Micomsoft card, If you go to Video/Capture filter, that’s where you tell the capture device what to do with interlaced frames. You want to make sure it’s set to Weave, meaning that it saves the interlaced fields as-is. You don’t want to Bob or Blend them at the capture stage. That’s also where you would turn on its 2d or 3d comb filters if it has them. edit to add: Interlace TFF and BFF vary from device to device. I have some of each, so you need to figure out which you have. Also, “posterize” is pronounced the same as “poster,” not like “pasta”.

@videocaptureguide

27 күн бұрын

That "Custom Properties" tab only appears if one is using the Microsoft DirectShow drivers. When using ATI cards, that tab does not appear and the video is captured by default interlaced. Later in Hybrid, I use QTGMC to deinterlace (top field first) and click BOB to end up with a 59.97 fps video.

@CantankerousDave

27 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide Exactly - you need to make sure that you capture the interlaced fields so you aren't stuck with a sub-par field-blended file that can't be deinterlaced or IVTC'd later on. Some devices default to that.

Great video! I’m surprised you don’t mention most consumer video mixers of the same era have a TBC built in and can be still scored for relatively cheap

@videocaptureguide

20 күн бұрын

Great point. When I was searching for a TBC, I looked into the Videonics MX1 video mixers and found many on FB Marketplace in other cities and tried to get someone to ship me one but it didn't work out. I eventually found a DVK-200 and was able to have that shipped to me. Lord Smurf at DigitalFAQ said this about the MX1: "It's not too different from the weak DataVideo DVK units, or SE mixers, though a decade older." Source: www.digitalfaq.com/forum/video-restore/2251-tbc-time-base-9.html#post72331 There might be two drawbacks to the MX1 compared to the DVK: (1) MX1 get hot and need good airflow as this was something that was reported back in the 1990s, (2) MX1 is reported to affect the image quality. I haven't tested it so I can't confirm this.

The best method I have found is an S-VHS player connected via S-Video to a stand alone Sony RDR-HXD DVD recorder which has a hardware upscaler and an HDMI out (The actual model number doesn't matter as we aren't using the internal HDD or tuner sections). The HDMI out is fed into a fairly cheap HDMI to USB capture device on my laptop. The hardware upscaler in the Sony does a far better job than any standalone device I have tried, probably because the Sony DVD Recorder was a very expensive device in it's time and the S-VHS player has a time base corrector and also does a good job of reducing noise on standard VHS.

@videocaptureguide

21 күн бұрын

Interesting. I don’t know that one. I did a quick search and found a discussion with a demo that says it indeed fixes some jitter issues, although not as much as an ES10 or ES15 might. But still an improvement. What do you use for HDMI to USB. I have tested an Elgato Camlink but I know there are more expensive options that might produce better results if going the HDMI to USB route. Here is the discussion about your Sony recorder: forum.videohelp.com/threads/401905-Sony-rdr-hxd870-dvd-recorder-passthrough

@shortcat

17 күн бұрын

Any hardware upscalers are bad and I guess that old Sony just uses the primitivest alrorythm which is better than newer ones that trying to denoise and enhance too hard. Any way, it would be easy to exceed with software.

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The junkie in me wants to watch the render progress bars ticking all the way til complete, especially on knowing I just restored some mementos for myself or somebody else and shit gonna look good for years

The signal on VHS tape is composite. The S-video cable is made for Y/C signal. There will not be improvement at all using S-video cable for a standard VHS tape. But the SVHS player is good because it has good comb filter.

@videocaptureguide

17 күн бұрын

I'm been wondering about this and will do a side-by-side test shortly to see if there is any noticeable difference between S-Video and Composite if the source tape was recorded on a regular VHS player.

@debranchelowtone

17 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide VHS has composite signal on the tape anyway. Only VHS has chroma and luma separated in Y/C. If you notice a difference it would be because of the comb filter or other kind of internal features.

@videocaptureguide

17 күн бұрын

So you recommend using and SVHS player and output via SVideo cable because that will make it slightly better?

@debranchelowtone

17 күн бұрын

@@videocaptureguide RCA cable would be enough. But SVHS player is recomended. S-video cable only for SVHS tapes.

@videocaptureguide

16 күн бұрын

@@debranchelowtone I went down the rabbit hole and found discussions about this. And differences of opinion. In your view, it can't hurt to use an SVideo cable? In other words, even if it doesn't make the video look better, it won't make it look worse?

LOL WINDOWS XP? GRANDPA!! TECHNOLOGY MOVES AHEAD.

@joshj88

15 күн бұрын

You mean technology barrels forward heedless of useful traits and the hardware most suited to doing the job, making it impossible to extremely difficult.

@DoubleMonoLR

15 күн бұрын

Much(or most) of the best capture equipment was made in the XP era, so is naturally the most compatible. XP can do everything needed for that, a newer OS makes zero difference to capture quality. That's assuming it works at all with your device.

@joshj88

14 күн бұрын

@@DoubleMonoLR I would maybe push forward to Windows Vista since it has built in DVD recording and that sort of thing, but even then I tend to live in a nostalgic world. Really posting to the Internet, simply requires two machines. One to capture and the other to render.

@joshj88

14 күн бұрын

Though, since you can get handbrake for windows, XP and run it on a dual or quad core I guess it’s not too bad