Thank you. 👋🙂

Thanks a bunch! Interesting

This is super cool to hear. Thank you for explaining this.❤

Can't wait for this, love camping But also love having 5G. This is very big.

Very interesting.

Very happy to hear that there are starlink alternatives getting closer. As much as I love starlink, I hate being completely dependent upon starlink when camping in remote areas. If AST could deliver 1mbps then I'd be happy to have that as an alternative. Their satellites are at a little over 300 miles high, low enough for latency that I could live with for work and casual browsing.

@5thGenNativeTexan

2 ай бұрын

Without having a launch and orbital infrastructure like SpaceX has for Starlink, then AST (or Amazon Kuiper, or anything else) is going nowhere.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

SpaceX is very happy to offer launch services to Starlink competitors - and ultimately SpaceX even aims to spin Starlink out into an independent company too.

@ThePalisky

Ай бұрын

ASTS is going to deliver broadband speeds (i.e. >>1mbps) straight to your unmodified mobile phone.

@CaliLottoplaya97

Ай бұрын

@@MobileInternetResourceCenterHey, I thought Verizon was working with Amazons/Blue Origin? What happened with that?

We'll see how this technology wiil be for the future.

As exciting, as it is real 🎉

Hummingbird went inside the boat around 8:42 lol

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

Ай бұрын

I think it was a wasp and not a bird, actually.

120mbps per beam - you forgot to mention there will be well over 2000+ beams per satellite.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

Ай бұрын

Every satellite architecture relies on multiple beams per satellite to provide ground coverage - dividing the territory below into cells. SpaceMobile will be targeting cells roughly 40km across - and each satellite will be capable of broadcasting 2800 beams - each one lighting up a cell. That beam is then shared by everyone in that cell. Since SpaceMobile satellites are in a higher orbit than Starlink, SpaceMobile satellites will need to support more beams per satellite - but there will be fewer satellites needed since the satellites are higher up and can cover more of the surface at once. There is some great technology in the works here - pretty exciting stuff, if it all works out as planned.

@CaliLottoplaya97

Ай бұрын

@@MobileInternetResourceCenterhey didn't Verizon Wireless work with Amazon/ Blue Origin? Before Ast Space mobile what ever happen with that?

The carriers, including Google with Android will have an incentive to push asts plans on their devices because its a 50/50 split. They will all share in the profits with ASTS. Thats the idea behind the profit split model to create an incentive foe carriers to advertise and push the service.

Ast will be paying space x for launch. I think both services have potential and will do okay

@Barefoot_By_Dc

Ай бұрын

SpaceX will not be the exclusive launch provider.

Spacemobile says they will have 2800 "beams" per satellite. Just a heads up that your "split it up amongst everyone in that beam" is true, you misrepresented what ast spacemobile can be

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

Ай бұрын

SpaceMobile satellites will orbit 700km up - and they are broadcasting beams lighting up cells that are roughly 40km in diameter. Every user in a given cell will be sharing the 120 Mbps bandwidth of that beam. The satellites themselves support thousands of beams - this is needed to provide wide coverage. This is a lot of beams - but every satellite system works similarly with multiple beams broadcast by a single satellite. SpaceMobile's architecture is relying on fewer satellites in higher orbit than StarLink, so each satellite needs to serve a larger surface area at a given time. That is why SpaceMobile is building such massive antennas with support for so many beams - each satellite has a lot of territory to cover. It is pretty impressive technology, for sure.

@fredmertz2539

26 күн бұрын

@@MobileInternetResourceCenter You had said "reach peak theoretical speeds of 120 Mbps per satellite beam." Then went on to define a "each beam is covering hundreds of square miles" and I don't think I quite grasped the area that each satellite is covering, and therefore the beam cells are covering. Thanks for the response! The beam cells cover more area than I was envisioning. Also, they'll only be directing those beams to areas where there is no terrestrial signal. In other words, the entire reachable surface area won't be actually covered by these sats. They'll have 'spare beams' on each satellite. My understanding is that they will be able to direct more beams to a single hexagon-cell location from each satellite, and even from multiple satellites that are in range (up to 4 could be in reach eventually!). As you said, it will still need to be split between users in that cell. But, if I'm understanding correctly, it's split amongst more than one beam cell. MIMO!

When will there be an alternative to StarLink?

@5thGenNativeTexan

2 ай бұрын

Other than Amazon's Kuiper which is going nowhere? Probably not in the next decade.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

Check out our recent Satellite Industry update: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ma51wbyJirvNe7g.html

@DeclinedMercy

Ай бұрын

SpaceMobile is launching their first commercial sats in a few months.

Verizon has absolutely sucked the last 4 months of service in my area and surrounding. I ended up switching to Mint (T-Mobile). Twice the speed and went onto another camping trip and it was flawless and was a bit faster than my ATT hotspot. Not sure what is going on with Verizon but after the Walmart branding situation, their service has degraded significantly.

@Bryan-Hensley

2 ай бұрын

Possibly an outdated phone. If you didn't see 5g UW in the signal area of your phone, you had an outdated phone that won't pick up the newest frequencies.

@timboehm8700

2 ай бұрын

I switched to Mint too! Love it!!

@kmonto1971

2 ай бұрын

@@Bryan-Hensley It's a S23 so being outdated shouldn't even be possible with it.

@Bryan-Hensley

2 ай бұрын

@@kmonto1971 UW band hasn't been active but a few years. If it's over a few years old it probably won't have the UW transceivers. The radios are hardwire not software

Qatar Airways is the First Leading Airline in MENA to Introduce Complimentary Starlink Wi-Fi Onboard. Now, how can that going to work with a plane going between 300 and 500 MPH or whatever it is called for planes and the satellites going 1000 MPH?

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

Phased array antennas can aim instantly without physically moving. The plane will be handing off from one satellite to the next very frequently though!

Will it's Work For Verizon prepaid?

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

Ай бұрын

It remains to be seen as to what plans get the feature.

I would think Starl Link would be the cheaper option being that AT&T and Verizon has to pay this other satellite company to pay stink to launch their satellites so, how does everything work while you pass off the cost to the customers?

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

Ай бұрын

SpaceX does indeed currently have a huge cost advantage from owning their own rockets - but in the future Starlink will likely spin off and become an independent company and will probably then end up paying the same launch prices as everyone else.

@DeclinedMercy

Ай бұрын

I hate to tell you this, but companies pass the cost on to customers for literally everything. That is how businesses work. Customers pay them. You're embarrassing yourself.

Thanks for the vid! Do you know if AST satellites are technically capable of encroaching on Starlink’s home internet market? If it’s on a 5g frequency, then would a Verizon Wireless home internet modem be able to pick it up? Thanks again!

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

As mentioned in the video, each satellite / beam will not have enough bandwidth available for truly broadband internet speeds to multiple users at once. This is not intended to be a competitor to Starlink internet service - but it is a competitor to Starlink's direct-to-cell. It remains to be seen what devices the carriers allow on the service - but can't imagine Verizon enabling it on their home internet devices, which they only activate in areas they have excess native 5G capacity.

@ThePalisky

Ай бұрын

@@MobileInternetResourceCenter this is actually incorrect. Their BB2 satellites with their custom ASICs will be broadband speeds per user. Those BB2 sats should start launching next year. They also have 1000s of beams/satellite compared to Starlink has ~50 iirc/D2C satellite. However, you're right in that it's not meant to be used for home internet. Although it will be in areas that don't currently have access to broadband at all since the cost/month and startup cost will be significantly lower than Starlink. In those areas it will likely not be actual broadband because of the number of users unless more sats are added. Massive miss in your video and this comment in particular.

@DeclinedMercy

Ай бұрын

AST will have MORE capacity than Starlink, not less. What a miss. Do your due diligence. Starlink is also spreading their service over wide area, and their beams are larger than SpaceMobile's, meaning it gets split between more people.

@nsn27

Ай бұрын

​@@ThePalisky what speed will be available per user? Enough for 4k streaming?

@ThePalisky

Ай бұрын

@@nsn27 they are saying they can do broadband connectivity per user. Their per beam speed is supposed to be 120Mbps, with 1000s of beams/satellite. So theoretically if you were the only person using a cell/beam (unlikely) you could get up to 120Mbps. Realistically, you won't get to watch anything in 4k not that it matters on mobile devices at all. They have already proven that their test satellite can do HD video though kzread.info/dash/bejne/eWl8pNdsXayTcZc.html.

Bottom line is the low earth orbit infrastructure. Without it, most of these technologies and plans are pipe dreams. It's very easy to say that someone has a better LEO cell platform, but without the VAST infrastructure to put those platforms into LEO, manage the orbital infrastructure, etc... then AST SpaceMobile is just another Amazon Kuiper, which is going nowhere fast. It's MUCH more likely that SpaceX will just continually upgrade their platforms to piggyback more robust cellular technology.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

SpaceMobile has a lot of carrier partners, and Kuiper has infinitely deep pockets pouring money into it. Both seem on track to actually start building out their constellations this year. The catch is that SpaceX wins no matter what - because all of these other constellations are turning towards SpaceX for launch services since SpaceX has such a dominant position when it comes to actually launching things. It is very likely that there will ultimately be several viable direct-to-cell services in operation, with different costs and capabilities.

@James_Knott

2 ай бұрын

@@MobileInternetResourceCenter "It is very likely that there will ultimately be several viable direct-to-cell services in operation, with different costs and capabilities." Will there be enough business to support them all? Even one? As I mentioned in another post, there were 3 satellite phone services in the late 90s and they couldn't make it then.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

That indeed is the key question - will there be enough demand to make any of these constellations profitable. That remains to be seen, for sure!

Starlink satellites orbit, on average, at 342 miles above the surface of the Earth. And their beam only covers a footprint diameter of 15 miles across. But, their up-link has orders of magnitude more power to transmit with compared to a cellphone at full power. It's likely that AST will be closer to 240 miles up and a similar footprint. Which means that there will have to be just as many AST satellites in orbit for it to be commercially viable. Expect a similar roll out to Starlink.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

AST SpaceMobile has only requested permission to license 243 satellites with the FCC, so they are not aiming for the massive constellation size that Starlink has.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

Ай бұрын

FYI - SpaceMobile is launching into orbits roughly 750 km up. Starlink is at 550km. This is why SpaceMobile needs fewer satellites - each satellite sees and serves a larger territory below it.

There are a lot of technical challenges with this. Signals attenuate with the square of distance. That is, all else being equal, if you double the distance, you have 1/4 the signal strength. Also, more bandwidth requires more power. Shannon and Nyquist kick in here. As for the huge antennas, that will affect beam width. How much land area will a satellite cover? I have read of tests, with an iPhone, and all they get is texts. It's not even capable of voice calls. You may recall the satellite phones that appeared in the late 90s. IIRC, there were three companies, but only Iridium remains and that's only because they were bailed out and subsidized by the U.S. government. Even with a system designed for such service, the best they could deliver was low quality voice. They also had an external antenna that had to be folded out. One thing that killed those satellite services was the number of cell phone users explodes in the late 90s, with the resulting increase in coverage, largely eliminating the need for satellite phones.

@MobileInternetResourceCenter

2 ай бұрын

SpaceMobile had already demonstrated voice and video calls, and even a 14 Mbps data stream, to a stock unmodified Samsung phone. So they have proven they can get beyond just texting. The catch is - can they do it at scale? That will be a very real challenge. As you point out - most satellite constellations historically have ended in bankruptcy. This stuff is hard - even though tech and launch has gotten vastly cheaper and better than it used to be.

@DeclinedMercy

Ай бұрын

What is with all the armchair experts who think they know everything? SpaceMobile will be vastly more capable than Apple's SOS service. SpaceMobile satellites were custom designed for this purpose and are vastly more powerful, Apple is pinging signals off an aging satellite constellation that barely had any reason to exist before Apple wrote them a big check.

This ain't going to work like ya'll think it will. The noise floor is too high to allow for steady connection. It will only be used for emergency use only in limited areas. Its akin to 500 people standing outside together and they are all screaming and yelling. You are 1/2 mile away and trying to hear the 1 person in that crowd saying "Hi!" You aren't going to have but maybe 10-20 mobile connections at once and even that- during the testing SpaceX and TMobile did they couldn't even stream a 360p video with 1 user.

@FederalHear2112

21 күн бұрын

Humans are going back to the caves and technology is not increasing but decreasing. We will never achieve this type of technology. Keep that mentality, you'll stay behind. It's 2024 and we are late to this, we are catching up thanks to ASTS.