Title: *Vendetta and The Law* 1:13 The zoom chatroom 💬 is ready _The Oresteia_ by Aeschylus 2:57 Rage of Achilles, and Self-Restraint 3:19 Tragic Heroes go too far. 3:59 Religion: Collection of Stories as a Common Language 4:14 Religion are Symbolic Systems 5:49 Myth means Story 6:09 Structure of a Tragedy • Conflict emerges 😠😠 • The Conflict is irreconcilable 😡|😡 6:22 _sometimes people are trapped in circumstances that they did not make and they cannot shake off_ 😭 • (People die 🪦) 8:59 _Sometimes it is not clear what the right answer is_ ❔⁉️ 9:39 _Some situations, no matter how smart you are, you can’t reason yourself out of._ 😬 10:25 _We weave the webs we get caught up in_ 🕸️ 10:41 _Pride goes before The Fall._ ☦️ *The Libation Bearers* by Aeschylus 11:31 _Electra_ by Euripides 12:25 *Intellectual/Rational/Logical Justice* ⚖️👨🏻‍⚖️ 13:12 The growth of The Rule of Law in Athens Greece in the 400s-300s BC 16:45 Rage 😡 and Blood 🩸 Vendetta 🔪🗡️ is grossly dysfunctional. *Stories* 🗣️✍🏻📝📕 19:33 Religious Myth, Stories of the world and ourselves. 20:37 21:10 “Narratives are dead” is a meta-narrative _I got tired of self-referentiality and being cute a long time ago._ *Power Politics & Justice* 21:54 deeply concerning tale from Michael Sugrue’s young teaching years 25:00 This Nihilism is just seeking power 💥 😈 25:47 Righteous Justice 👨🏻‍⚖️ 27:26 Human Beings Have Agency ☝🏻 *Art* 🖼️🗣️🎤🎸 29:35 Poetry ✍🏻, Music 🎶 owning the Mind 29:58 A New Intellectually Respectable kind of Art 30:37 Michaelangelo’s Sistine Chapel artwork ⛪️ 🖼️ 31:47 We don’t get Separation of Church and State until The 1700s Enlightenment Movement 32:58 We have a new operating system. 33:23 _Human beings are rational animals_ Bacha by Euripides , and Thyucides _Peloponnesian War_ 📚 35:42 Thyucides _The Dialouge at Milos_ *Society* 38:31 Practical, Fundamental, Unchanged Human Nature 40:49 Realpolitik 42:45 Highest Good 46:15 Art 🖼️ • Visual Art • Cognitive Art • Musical Art • Dance Art 47:35 The Mind is like a Swiss-Army Knife 🇨🇭 51:49 Greatness 52:45 Numbed by The Hedonic Treadmill 53:27 People who are seeking numbness are in pain. 53:56 The Internet is a good servant and a bad master 🛜 53:43 Jackson Pollack’s Paintings 🖼️ 55:33 There are multiple overlapping symbolic systems • The Legacy Systems 📜 • The Digital World 🖥️ 🛜

@goofyahhh254

6 ай бұрын

tnx

@thattimestampguy

6 ай бұрын

@@goofyahhh254 Thank you too 🙏🏼

@cheri238

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, Professor Sugre .❤ Of the events of the war, I have not ventured to speak from any chance information, nor any notion of me own; I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular inquiry. This was a laborious one for ... Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, i.e.(404 B.C.) Blood Meridian, Cormac McCarthy "Blood Merridian," amazing novel indeed. I can't hear what is being said. Michael De Angelo's, Sistine Chapel he painted , he was laughing behind the Catholic Church's back. I loved looking at the ceilings and the Pieta. Art, music, dance, literature, poetry, and creativity are the glues that hold our together. I love Ingmar Bergman films. "Mourning Becomes Electra," Eugene O' Neil , America''s best playwrite. It takes 2 nights in a rowe to see it. I saw it with Glenda Jackson and Edward Petherbridge in 80s NYC. I do love to listen to those who understand physics, it is exhilarating to hear about numbers and galaxies, black holes, quantum mechanics, string theory etc. Einstein 's theory of relatively. I am interested in everything. Thank you all again for this discussion.

@lronSky

6 ай бұрын

Great job, thanks

Hey Mike thanks again for the live session we all appreciate your time and teaching 🙏 But please do rest up, keep well and just let us know when you are ready for the Boethius session, we will do the reading in the meantime 😊 We look forward seeing you again next time 🙏🙂 (P.s. please keep the "Freestyle Thucydides" lecture on the channel, it was great with or without the video visual 🙂)

Thanks for offering that help. Count me in too. We have to keep the good Professor teaching!

I see the Greeks as Ithaca. The place where one starts and always yearns returning to. An inexhaustible well of inspiration where notions, ideas flowed raw, primordial,profound.

@yoshtodd

6 ай бұрын

Nice way of putting it.

Great critique of post modernity!

Sugrue's very pragmatic and historical understanding of Plato is invaluable.

Really transporting, Dr. Sugrue. Unbelievable. Had me, in a Trance.

This channel is shrine for intellectual thinkers, a diamond mine I found

You shine in public discourse, great stuff doctor, thank you.

Great stuff. Any chance that new Thucydides lecture will be reposted? I only caught half of it before it was taken down, but it was quite good.

Great discussion, thank you as always for sharing!

Only the other night I wrote another post but I will rewrite that, it said " if all we have are concepts the fastest way to change reality is subjective rather than objective". This is why Plato is possibly the greatest creator of all thus far, or Paul of Tarsus.

Yes yes yes!!

Thanks that guy for brushing his hair before the video. He looks like ace Ventura ☺️

I like cats playing the piano.

Warm salutations Professor Sugrue and happy Thanksgiving. In this video you acknowledge that of course not everyone has the same concept of what human felicity is. Of course I agree. I have a question: What is the difference between that claim, and the kinds of cultural relativistic or moral relativistic claims that postmodernists make? In asking this question I am trying to get at the dialectic between, on the one hand, the desire to lay claim to universal principles e.g. freedom, and on the other the desire to keep open the possibility for those universal principles to change? It would seem that many humans (though certainly not all!) want both; we want to be able to say things like: slavery is bad because humans have natural rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness; and also we want to be able to say that: in the future, people will have different ideas of what universal principles are.

What is the best way to contact Professor Sugrue?

Would love to see Sugrue with Vervaeke

25:10 This is what The Big Lebowski was about

@Laocoon283

6 ай бұрын

53:00 Step bro I'm stuck 😂

@Laocoon283

6 ай бұрын

1:05:25 Every solution has a trade off - Sowell

Networking? I'm 2 mins in... I'll wait and see...

are these q&a's open? can anybody join? I'd love to attend such a lecture by Dr. Sugrue 😊

@mistry6292

6 ай бұрын

He usually postts a zoom link after each new lecture he gives on his lecture series.

I have more to say but I have to go and do a few things.

this "partial blindness", could I think of it as being a kind of pre-packaged bias towards itself?

A 3 way talk with atheist Dr James Lindsay ( The Marxification of Education, Cynical Theories, Race Marxism), Orthodox Christian apologist Jay Dyer (Meta-Narratives Essays on Philosophy and Symbolism, Esoteric Hollywood: Sex, Cults and Symbols in Film) and Michael Sugrue would be interesting to say the least and highly productive imo.

So this gives rise to the question, what have Plato and Paul created? Nietzsche's last man perhaps?

50:16

Dude looks like a living anime character, nice 😊

A Q+A did you say?

You have talked a lot about justice, can we define our terms? What is your concept of justice?

mk was muted😶

He doesn't mind to speak about serbian crimes, which he takes for granted but avoids to speaks about Israel. He chose an easier path, unlike Chomsky.

@mindbodymotion3371

6 ай бұрын

Wise decision...at this time...think about it...if your purpose is to teach...it is what it is

@robertwarner-ev7wp

Ай бұрын

Well the US wasn’t funding Serbian crimes. Mustn’t step on your masters toes, that will get you removed from the YT.