Vegeta: Perfecting Anti-Heroes | The Anatomy of Anime

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  • @TotallyNotMark
    @TotallyNotMark5 жыл бұрын

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  • @beasto_ogod2034

    @beasto_ogod2034

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi

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    @aliivan1771

    5 жыл бұрын

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    @jokesonyou4395

    5 жыл бұрын

    a big LIKE for this video

  • @thebaldingsparrow5392

    @thebaldingsparrow5392

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks as always for the insight and once again shared. Be sure to have a delightful Thursday evening. That goes to all the haters too as we all need some support and appreciation in life from time to time.

  • @xatoska

    @xatoska

    5 жыл бұрын

    recently i watched couple of your videos, and realized that you are like 5 times smarter and cultured as other dragnball channels, so depsite i am a dragonball fan for 20 years now, you are my first dragonball channel to get my sub, keep your high quality!

  • @Nino-zg4ux
    @Nino-zg4ux5 жыл бұрын

    The best thing about the Namek saga is Vegeta murdering all of his old co workers

  • @theone3746

    @theone3746

    5 жыл бұрын

    And with just a dab of imagination, your bad day at work got so much better.

  • @DocWolph

    @DocWolph

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, that is ONE way to proclaim you quit.

  • @SuperSirianRigel

    @SuperSirianRigel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not really funny to reflect on though if you think about it. I had a friend who graduated high school with me lose his life in the shootings in Aurora IL recently. He had taken the job as one of the head men in the plant and some guy who was in the process of getting fired shot him and several other people. The last thing my friend said to his wife was through a text, "I love you. I've been shot." Now his wife is a widow and his kids don't have a father anymore. It is very sad. So killing co-workers/ex-co-workers is not really good to joke about.

  • @nopatiencejoe6376

    @nopatiencejoe6376

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SuperSirianRigel That's a really unfortunate and sad event, but those aren't two comparable scenarios. I don't think we should equate the events of a fiction that involves aliens that speak the same languague, can breathe in various planets, has time travel and superpowers with our crude reality. Besides that, the "co-workers" of the character are reprehensible, since their "business" is killing and slaving other people. Our morality doesn't match with the morality of that characters, hence why they can't be held by the same regard.

  • @SuperSirianRigel

    @SuperSirianRigel

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nopatiencejoe6376 I agree. And I wasn't. But it sort of sounds like the guy that I replied too did.

  • @DragonballBlack
    @DragonballBlack5 жыл бұрын

    Honestly just love these thumbnails.

  • @Rolithius

    @Rolithius

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Totallynotmark is the best sorry your sick and sorry all that beef is goin on

  • @LuckiSir

    @LuckiSir

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ikr!! It not only relates to the previous thumbnail, but it looks great

  • @squirrel1331

    @squirrel1331

    5 жыл бұрын

    i love you 😘

  • @StarvingAngel4583

    @StarvingAngel4583

    5 жыл бұрын

    BlackScape I agree they look really good

  • @ParadoxXIsTaken

    @ParadoxXIsTaken

    5 жыл бұрын

    Simple, but effective.

  • @5oundOfVictory
    @5oundOfVictory5 жыл бұрын

    "He was scared of us... Scared that a Super Saiyan would be born, to rise up and overthrow him... Please, Kakarot... Destroy... Frieza... He made me... What I am..." -Vegeta's first dying words, after his fight, realizing that he was not the Super Saiyan of legend that he had talked about during his fight with Frieza. He realized that the legendary Super Saiyan was Goku, and he gave that recognition to someone who was an enemy, and beneath him, just a few months earlier. That Vegeta's dying words are probably of the most important things in his character.

  • @LuneLuan

    @LuneLuan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chikage just like squidward saying he’s always sort of liked spongebob in the face of death

  • @Izelor

    @Izelor

    5 жыл бұрын

    This speech and the one during the fight with Kid Buu when he finally recognized Goku as his best.

  • @rjante2236

    @rjante2236

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh bullshit, he was a murderer even as a child. That line was stupid as fuck and out of character. That would be like Goku calling himself a superhero.

  • @tsumia

    @tsumia

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rjante2236 So completely correct?

  • @brendongame2543

    @brendongame2543

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@LuneLuan True. Remember the "Pizza Delivery" episode? That's a very good example.

  • @MaSsiVeGaming1
    @MaSsiVeGaming15 жыл бұрын

    One of the reasons I love Vegeta is that he provides an extreme alternative to the forgiving/peaceful resolution characters. In a way he is still as ruthless and merciless as early in the series, even now that's hes more laid back. He has his own code of justice. You could say he's the ultimate "God might forgive you, but I won't" type of character.

  • @praveenloganathan7495

    @praveenloganathan7495

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's still ruthless and merciless, but only for the right reasons. Now he's the type of guy who knows how to do the job right and make sure that it stayed that way.

  • @dragoncat5767

    @dragoncat5767

    Жыл бұрын

    He throws away his pride when it's about protecting his family. That's the best thing about this dude

  • @brandontag4295
    @brandontag42954 жыл бұрын

    “He is the Vegeta of that show” I have heard that so many times and it definitely is true haha

  • @RheemQ

    @RheemQ

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Yamcha God that's not the Vegeta I know and love that's the one Toriyama started to weaken IMO

  • @habibaali1155

    @habibaali1155

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Don't Talk Zoomer how is he a simp? just log off, clearly you don’t know the meaning of the word

  • @christaguevara9334

    @christaguevara9334

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sadist Fake Bootleg dude dont be a jerk.

  • @codeinecurry

    @codeinecurry

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sadist Fake Bootleg Tiki virgin

  • @SomeFreakingCactus

    @SomeFreakingCactus

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never heard that, but I don’t watch much anime, so eh.

  • @Seth6000
    @Seth60004 жыл бұрын

    People sympathize with Vegeta also because life is not always the way you want, you may struggle alot, people change, you understand things in life and through along period of time you are not the same. Also he had the biggest character development of all the characters

  • @thatpersonwatchinyt9599

    @thatpersonwatchinyt9599

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Anessen : / Why You Mad its Just a comment But I Disagree With You Because Akira Isn't A Shit Writer, You Just Have a Different Taste About Him...

  • @eibarman-5750

    @eibarman-5750

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thatpersonwatchinyt9599 he's not a shit writer he just a "close to being bad" writer he always forget stuff and logic

  • @leultrainstinct406

    @leultrainstinct406

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eibarman-5750 you don’t create one of the best developed characters being a bad writer lmao. He’s not perfect, but he’s really good.

  • @samaellibog69

    @samaellibog69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh! So true.

  • @StevenJones851

    @StevenJones851

    11 ай бұрын

    Vegeta is the best Dragon Ball Character

  • @unicornmeatman2267
    @unicornmeatman22675 жыл бұрын

    akira toriyama: eh I don’t like vegeta Also akira:* gives vegeta the best character ark ever in existence*

  • @EvanSol919

    @EvanSol919

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Akira - Refuses to let Vegeta have the big win.

  • @felix_felice_yt7526

    @felix_felice_yt7526

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Akira - **makes goku a new form**

  • @hououinkyouma8135

    @hououinkyouma8135

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly at this point I feel like he himself isn't sure whether he likes him or not.

  • @naelpontes8444

    @naelpontes8444

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Akira: *turns Vegeta into the second main character*

  • @lapplandkun9273

    @lapplandkun9273

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hououinkyouma8135 toriyama likes vary. In interviews, he said goku was his favorite character. In another, he said piccolo was his favorite.

  • @kirasaji
    @kirasaji5 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta changes from villian to anti-hero is brilliant enough on it’s own, but what you may not have realized is how he stops wearing armor. Less and less, the metaphor of his armor being a ‘shield’ or ‘barrier’ that Vegeta initially puts up either on himself, or in front of, to keep himself from being injured or hurt. This is both literal and metaphorical. He’s still working for Frieza in the Saiyan Saga, and as he rebels from that old life, wears less and less armor, slowly lowering his defenses and trusting in others more. It also serves to abandon his old lifestyle he discarded, as he worked to gain more strength, heavily taking cues from Goku’s somewhat minimalistic attire. (The Gi Goku wears does nothing to defend him in battle.) Vegeta’s change is both physical and mental, he was willing to destroy Earth to kill Goku, laughing maniacally, unstable and erratic, by the climax of Z, he’s older, more focused, and learned from his many errors.

  • @pg5650

    @pg5650

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of kratos

  • @zafirulrahi1124

    @zafirulrahi1124

    5 жыл бұрын

    picolo was villen as well.

  • @panayiotisantoniou5095

    @panayiotisantoniou5095

    4 жыл бұрын

    And then in super be put his armour back..

  • @pingaspearce9403

    @pingaspearce9403

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@panayiotisantoniou5095 well to be fair. He only took it off to participate in the world marital arts tournament during the buu saga

  • @pingaspearce9403

    @pingaspearce9403

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ironic in comparison to goku Vegetas clothes change from saga to saga to reflect his change in personality and goals. Only gokus clothes have stayed the same, reflecting that he is a character that never changes

  • @NotMyRealName6
    @NotMyRealName65 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't help but notice that, the more Vegeta shifts from villain to antihero, the less armor he wears, from his bulky armor when he first appears to the DBZ epilogue where he's wearing Earth clothes.

  • @Lone_Rocket

    @Lone_Rocket

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thats an interesting observation.

  • @AlexanderDiviFilius

    @AlexanderDiviFilius

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, what's annoying is that Super fucked this transition up.

  • @mikados0173

    @mikados0173

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderDiviFilius Only reason he didn't have it in Buu saga was because he couldn't wear it in a tournament.

  • @AlexanderDiviFilius

    @AlexanderDiviFilius

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mikados0173 I don't care, it ruins the visual transition. He doesn't even train with his armour on in the Boo arc like he did in the Cell arc, and I don't think they even reference why he isn't wearing armour, he just isn't. The main reason he wears armour in Super is because his Cell arc look is his most Iconic. If this wasn't the case, he'd have worn Bulma's armour for longer, if he wore any armour at all.

  • @Pokemonleafmon

    @Pokemonleafmon

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderDiviFilius Which is one of the neat things about GT. It still keeps this motife. By the time GT takes place, Vegeta has finally gotten rid of the old clothes entirely and only wears human clothes for the rest of the series, reflecting a new side to him.

  • @tss3393
    @tss33935 жыл бұрын

    5:09 "Trunks...Bulma...I do this for you. ...and yes, even you... ...best buddy."

  • @davidhong1934

    @davidhong1934

    5 жыл бұрын

    Goku: I mean, we're going to revive you with the Dragon Balls anyways, so knock yourself out. Vegeta: Can't you let me do anything cool? Goku: Nope! I'm the protagonist, so you don't get to do anything useful! Vegeta: ...

  • @deakkristof1818

    @deakkristof1818

    5 жыл бұрын

    I want this line in DBZ Abridged so much.

  • @samuelorourke61

    @samuelorourke61

    5 жыл бұрын

    Team 4 star

  • @brandonlewis8424

    @brandonlewis8424

    5 жыл бұрын

    I want Vegeta to flip off Goku at the end of the Buu ark, and for Goku to return it

  • @TheAirstation86

    @TheAirstation86

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@deakkristof1818 I'm hoping in the buu saga instead of saying "You're better than me Kakarot." he says "You got this...Best Buddy!"

  • @coadacatalin4510
    @coadacatalin45105 жыл бұрын

    His heart is pure. Pure. Unadulterated. BADASS>

  • @joaosoares-rr5mj
    @joaosoares-rr5mj5 жыл бұрын

    vegeta arc: neutral evil - chaotic neutral - true neutral - chaotic good - chaotic evil(when he joined babidi) - chaotic good - neutral good.

  • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou

    @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Dribble Limit it’s vegeta’s development

  • @JNST2023

    @JNST2023

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see that you are a man of taste. Now join me as I go battle Sarevok

  • @yurionedge2199

    @yurionedge2199

    3 жыл бұрын

    He wasn't really chaotic evil even when he allowed himself to get "taken over" by Babidi because he refused to kill the Supreme Kai and sacrificed himself to try to kill Buu

  • @joaosoares-rr5mj

    @joaosoares-rr5mj

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yurionedge2199 he was chaotic evil, sacrificing himself and all that was only latter, he jjust didnt stick chaotic evil for many episodes that's all.

  • @DAKRAB

    @DAKRAB

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yurionedge2199 still he did kill a bunch of people for no reason soooo still chaotic evil

  • @FleeceJohnsonDaBootyWarrior
    @FleeceJohnsonDaBootyWarrior5 жыл бұрын

    7:45 " And to best reflect that change..." *Shows Super Android 13 punching Goku's nuts*

  • @StevenJones851

    @StevenJones851

    2 ай бұрын

    Lol 😂

  • @wdaniel76
    @wdaniel765 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta is an ideal anti-hero, and his development was/is amazing throughout the series. One thing that irks me though is that the anti hero/dark hero role is glorified far more than it should be, and it's obvious from the way people talk about Vegeta when compared to Goku, or even characters like Batman and Superman. They go as far to ignore that Goku is the sole reason he began to change, as mentioned in your last video about Goku.

  • @wdaniel76

    @wdaniel76

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tl8211 I specifically mentioned Vegeta, who's motivation and change was directly tied to Goku until the end of Z, with him saying so himself during the Kid Buu fight.

  • @amurorayrx

    @amurorayrx

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@tl8211 Well duh, thankfully there isn't just one reason for characters to change. That said, your "FAR, FAR, FAR" should really be reduced to simply "far" at most, as Goku was still a NECESSARY reason and is recognized as such by any of the characters changed by him. What Bulma and Trunks did to Vegeta was to resocialize him, teach him how to live as something other than a warrior, a way of living Goku himself struggles with a bit. It looks like you're confusing this socialization part with the actual changing of heart, which is why you also mentioned Roshi. Anyway, it was because of Goku that Vegeta was able to be anywhere near those other people to begin with, and considering he was an irreverent cold-blooded murder, I'd say Goku's part was the most vital, making the other aspects possible. To put it simply, Goku wasn't the one raising all these characters, conducting their countinued growth. Rather, Goku was the big trigger, he was the responsible for putting other characters in a position to grow differently and in a more positive way.

  • @wdaniel76

    @wdaniel76

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tl8211 That doesn't make sense, given Vegeta's speech about his own growth. He sought to emulate Goku and the source of his strength, which included getting a family. He didn't even do a good job of it, hence him admitting to not even giving Trunks affection since he was an infant. Vegeta also threw them out emotionally for a chance to attain enough power to defeat Goku. Bulma and Trunks weren't his reasons for improving or changing, they're what he got on the way to changing, and that change was tied to Goku.

  • @christhechilled

    @christhechilled

    5 жыл бұрын

    bUt, BuT SaSUKe tho

  • @livingashtree1942

    @livingashtree1942

    5 жыл бұрын

    If it weren't for Goku. Vegeta would have definitely stayed evil and probably also wouldn't even be alive. Vegeta as a fellow Saiyan is the only one who has ever been able to truly understand what Goku fights for. It may not seem like it, but at their basis Goku and Vegeta are very similar. The thing about Goku and Vegeta is.. Goku was born extraordinarily weak for Saiyan standards Vegeta has always been strong as he was born as the naturally most powerful Saiyan in History. (Except for Broly, who was considerd to be a freak of nature and is basically a Saiyan God in standards) To put it simple, he was a Elite amongst the Elite Saiyans. Hence why his Pride and need for that entitlement is that big. And it has already been stated countless times, that naturally Vegeta is much stronger than Goku. If you don't understand what i mean, than go rewatch the Majin Saga. And pay very close attention to Goku's words and Vegeta's reactions from the moment he turned Majin. Cause there is a very particular scene when they're in The World Tournament and where Goku does something very surprising to someone. And from there on, listen and pay attention very closely to what's actually happening uptil Vegeta's sacrifice and what actually lead to that event. Regarding to Goku's and Vegeta's into being the strongest. Vegeta is the one who's naturally stronger but Goku is the one with the greater potential. Gohan & Trunks surpass both their Father's on their best traits. Gohan is the one who holds the biggest potential out of all the of them and Trunks(Future Trunks) is the one who's naturally the most powerful out of all of them. If you just look at how Future Trunks almost caught up to both Goku & Vegeta in the amount of short time he had in the Zamasu Saga and how Gohan at his absolute limits was a able to go completely toe to toe with a Super Saiyan Kefla and him in his Ultimate state. Kefla at standards may have been more powerful but Gohan in his Ultimate state when put to the test was able to go completely toe to toe with her untill they eventually both passed out. In the Manga Trunks in his Super Saiyan 2 form was able to extert himself to the point where he forced Goku to go from a Super Saiyan 3 to a Super Saiyan God to stop his attack. Ultimate state for Gohan is essentially the full strength he would have possessed as a Super Saiyan 2 if he had actually fully mastered the form, without any of it's limitations such as stamina & energy drawbacks the form brings. Ultimate state for Gohan is basically a gift given to him where he can enter into his Full untapped potential. All that he has to do to become stronger in his Ultimate state is train his base form and push his Ultimate state to further heights. That's how he'll be able to surpass both Goku & Vegeta.

  • @dipset16
    @dipset165 жыл бұрын

    I can’t begin to explain how much I love Vegeta

  • @BlakeH..888_

    @BlakeH..888_

    5 жыл бұрын

    *begin *

  • @crodojoe

    @crodojoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    still waiting

  • @LunaLuminary

    @LunaLuminary

    4 жыл бұрын

    Come on let's hear it

  • @MigattenoBlakae

    @MigattenoBlakae

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes you can, I believe in you

  • @dipset16

    @dipset16

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love him a lot

  • @cosmicspacekobold55
    @cosmicspacekobold554 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta was and always will be my favourite Anti-Hero. He's amazing to me.

  • @sosukeaizen7028
    @sosukeaizen70285 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta is to the perfect Anti-Hero as Big Boss is to the perfect Anti-Villain.

  • @smiith5

    @smiith5

    5 жыл бұрын

    He got played like a damn fiddle.

  • @GT-wj3gl

    @GT-wj3gl

    5 жыл бұрын

    He kept us waiting

  • @yolo_twice5827

    @yolo_twice5827

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kept you waiting,huh?

  • @maruseru6019

    @maruseru6019

    5 жыл бұрын

    Accelerator is the best anti hero

  • @sosukeaizen7028

    @sosukeaizen7028

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@frgrangel Tied to a chair? That's rich.

  • @NurseValentineSG
    @NurseValentineSG5 жыл бұрын

    Another thing that is very important: it took Vegeta ALOT of time to turn into a good guy. You braised that topic, but seeing a sloooooooow turn in someone is just insanely more interesting than a quick heel flip. Example: Griffith and Guts in Berserk. Griffith's betrayal hurts so much more because it was build up over multiple manga volumes. Meanwhile Guts slowly opening up to other people again after what he has witnessed and starting to show sympathy towards them just feels wholesome. Or to stay with Vegeta again: Majin Vegeta's suicide attack to save the people he loved wouldn't have meant a single thing if he wasn't around for multiple years.

  • @snowmaid3176

    @snowmaid3176

    5 жыл бұрын

    same with Bakugo in My Hero Academia

  • @sittingcrowd912

    @sittingcrowd912

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your pfp..... :o

  • @thelastcrusader1128

    @thelastcrusader1128

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@snowmaid3176 Bakugo hasn't really developed on such a scale, if we're taking about the Anime. He's become more tolerant and has shown slight empathy. But I feel like he's yet to have his true moment of character progression.

  • @CaptainProx

    @CaptainProx

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nurse Valentine his transition was slow but didn’t drag on in my opinion which just makes it all the more amazing! I gotta say I kinda miss the old raspy and edgy vegeta. These days he seems just very chill and doesn’t have that thirst to be that bad guy

  • @thelastcrusader1128

    @thelastcrusader1128

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CaptainProx Yea. All he does is scoff and scowl and that's the jist of his character these days.

  • @Disgruntledgamer
    @Disgruntledgamer5 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say most Anti-Heroes start off as Anti-Heroes. They usually start off as Good and fall or as bad. Venom, Walter White, Jason Todd, Magneto, Lobo, Dead pool I believe started off as a villain even Macbeth didn't start out that way.

  • @mr.anderson1562

    @mr.anderson1562

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dead pool was never a villain he only killed bad people

  • @mr.anderson1562

    @mr.anderson1562

    3 жыл бұрын

    @WarDemon he doesn’t kill anybody for bad reason that’s not really anti hero

  • @alternateperson6600

    @alternateperson6600

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's odd because Vegeta was always an ass, and that is reinforced by the environment he grew up in. Saiyans in general don't have the same normal attachment patterns inherent to humans, they are quite callous even when it comes to parenting and nourishment; Vegeta is a prince, herald to nobility of his own planet, that must have been a monumental weight and shock value for him and probably contributed to some sort of narcissism and inferiority complex. Vegeta would have continued to be an ass even if Freeza hadn't exploded his planet; Vegeta's temperament and attachment style is common to most Saiyans, he just so happens to have trauma and prejudice added to the mix. Goku would also have been an ass if he hadn't been dispatched to earth for his low class status and dispensability: saiyans are evil by default.

  • @donttalktomeyoureannoying8736

    @donttalktomeyoureannoying8736

    Жыл бұрын

    I would say the best example is the terminator, who was the villain in the first movie, but by the second movie he’s the good guy if my memory serves me correctly. Sorry all I can think about is that silver slimy thing chasing him and the boy.

  • @dracofirex
    @dracofirex5 жыл бұрын

    "No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. ... What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" -Paarthurnax

  • @Tremain
    @Tremain5 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta's character continues to grow even after all this years. Did anyone else notice during the Broly movie that it was VEGETA that suggested to Goku they needed to work together?

  • @DanteTaylor

    @DanteTaylor

    5 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen the manga chapter that's just right after the Tournament of Power? In that chapter, Vegeta saves a Namekian, and we can see him carrying the guilt of murdering a lot of them, needing to redeem his actions. I believe he's going to end up being as good as Goku, and I like the idea of the Prince of Saiyans being the purest of hearts.

  • @jackiechan6460

    @jackiechan6460

    5 жыл бұрын

    And during the fight with Cabba, he takes pride in Cabba and pushes him to transform into a Super Saiyan.

  • @DaniReacts13

    @DaniReacts13

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DanteTaylor YES! Vegeta saving the Namekians in the new arc of Super is the peak of his development. He's so awesome, I just love him.

  • @swastika721

    @swastika721

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Madhumita Mandal the more you will speak shit the more Vegeta will be adored....already he is on the verge of surpassing That Dumbass Kakarot's popularity....

  • @nemodemolishedgamer5743

    @nemodemolishedgamer5743

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@swastika721 He Is just Way Better Of a Character Than Goku .Also Goku In super Has JUST became A Hell of the bland Character !!!!Vegeta Is Undoubtedly The best character In the WHOLE ENTIRE series !!!

  • @jirenjoestar3665
    @jirenjoestar36655 жыл бұрын

    Although I've always loved Vegeta Goku is the reason for everyone being who they are including Vegeta. This is best demonstrated through Vegeta sacrificing himself for Trunks, Bulma and... Goku. This moment hit me so hard as it really presented Vegeta's feelings behind that arrogant facade

  • @Shazasterforever1

    @Shazasterforever1

    5 жыл бұрын

    What did Goku do to change Vegeta?

  • @weedo4300

    @weedo4300

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Shazasterforever1 He stopped Krillin. If Goku hadn't done that, Krillin would have killed Vegeta.

  • @alecjordan5233

    @alecjordan5233

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shazasterman spear his life, krillin was about to cap his ass, but goku said na, let him live so he can be number 2 for the rest of his life and rely on me to save the day, cause he a weak ass

  • @alphaxbox3728

    @alphaxbox3728

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Shazasterforever1 Showed vegeta humility, gave him a reason to keep getting stronger rather then be content.

  • @t-dawg5265

    @t-dawg5265

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alecjordan5233 Lmfao you Gayku-tards are fucking dumb. In Ressurection F Goku was getting clapped by Golden Frieza, then Vegeta jumped in like "step aside weakling, your power armor must be drained", then fucked Friezq up. Same thing when they fought Broly in the new DBS movie. You don't know jack shit about Dragon Ball.

  • @len1s95
    @len1s953 жыл бұрын

    -Bit late here, but still wanna share why I love Vegeta so much. For me, the epitome of his character is when, in the T.O.P, Jiren keeps calling him out for his lack of purity and selfish way of fighting. And Vegeta, right before using his Final Flash, says: *You say I'm arrogant, I say damn right!* This is what makes him stand out for me. He knows his flaws, he knows what his attitude is and he has acknowledged how that type of attitude can harm others, showed when he let Cell reach his perfect form and then inmediately in the next arc he sacrificed himself to stop Majin Buu. He recognizes that he's not perfect, but that's what makes him be, well, him. And that's why this line is so powerful: he is ruthless, merciless and sometimes a douche, but he has accepted himself as he is. He no longer feels like a worthless guy under the foot of Frieza. And that's why he has all the right in the world to say, *I'm the almighty Prince Vegeta!!*

  • @Eric-kf9vx
    @Eric-kf9vx5 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I love both Vegeta and Goku. I love how they are opposites but yet both similar. I love Goku's funny, childish attitude but hard working. On the other hand, I love Vegeta for his serious hard working attitude but has a soft side.

  • @thesilvershining

    @thesilvershining

    5 жыл бұрын

    Eric Reynolds Yes, exactly why I love them too. Goku is hilarious and pure-hearted but kind of selfish in his own childish way. Vegeta is smarter but he’s seen more of the dark side of life and he’s more rigid and emotionally protected. But inside he’s truly soft and it shows more and more. I relate to that quite a bit.

  • @jdmprince6262

    @jdmprince6262

    5 жыл бұрын

    OMG can you imagine how many people would lose their fucking minds if Goku or Vegeta comes to smash?

  • @Eric-kf9vx

    @Eric-kf9vx

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jdmprince6262 I WOULD LOVE IF THAT HAPPENED! Sadly, the characters have to have been first introduced in a video game. :(

  • @mikechrist9699

    @mikechrist9699

    3 жыл бұрын

    Finally I found someone that actually loves both of them

  • @ruuts5827

    @ruuts5827

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikechrist9699 I think most people love both of them. They so neatly contrast with each other and have great purpose in Dragon Ball. Yes, Vegeta is my favourite over Goku but I still love Goku. They're legendary characters in their own right.

  • @gummigamer4614
    @gummigamer46145 жыл бұрын

    Literally watches the goku one, "that was p good" "lemme check his channel" Uploaded 40 minutes ago IT'S FATE!

  • @mexicanslap

    @mexicanslap

    5 жыл бұрын

    Im gonna bruh at you

  • @mjangelvortex

    @mjangelvortex

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@magicphenom4867 Who hurt you?

  • @jerrisatyourwindow

    @jerrisatyourwindow

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@magicphenom4867 are you 4, lol

  • @jerrisatyourwindow

    @jerrisatyourwindow

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@magicphenom4867 that's not even a good insult

  • @generalshepherd2209
    @generalshepherd22095 жыл бұрын

    I always sympathized with Vegeta because I had a childhood rival. He would defeat me time and time again, and it seemed that while he admired my progress, he kept racing towards his goal of being the best. Despite how I tried, I always failed. When Vegeta made a great accomplishment, I always felt he was like me, pushing forward towards an almost impossible goal. That’s why I always loved Vegeta’s time on screen.

  • @StevenJones851

    @StevenJones851

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a pretty good and interesting story

  • @Tobenatorr
    @Tobenatorr5 жыл бұрын

    I used to like Goku. But Super I feel changed his character. Back in Z he was the reliable one that enjoyed a fight but there was so much more to him than that. He had a plan, he cared for others. He seemed like the strategist. At the beginning of Z all he wanted to do with Gohan was go fishing. I don't get that from Goku anymore in Super. All he cares about is fighting now and that seems to be it now. I feel like Goku wouldn't even want to go fishing with Gohan anymore because he has to train or fight. They don't even allow him to get angry anymore, besides with Zamasu and Goku Black. Where as Vegeta has grown as a character and isn't battle centered. Vegeta is so much more interesting than Goku

  • @rjante2236

    @rjante2236

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are you talking about the old Z dub or Kai? The Z dub changed his character to make him more heroic, Kai showed what he really was.

  • @DoggyP00

    @DoggyP00

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta "developed" from a tsundere antivillain to a harem protagonist. Super Vegeta might be one of the worst characters in the series, if not for the other 20 worst characters in the series that super created

  • @ganoninthepit

    @ganoninthepit

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DoggyP00 How is Vegeta the worst in Super? He was probably treated among the best in that series. We got to see his relationship with Future Trunks after he'd matured into a better family man, he spends time with Trunks and Bulma, refusing to leave Bulma's side until Bra was born, took on a Saiyan protege, and evolved into a new form specifically to protect his fellow Saiyans. His inspiration to defeat Toppo was to protect the Saiyans and his family, and that kept him fighting to his last breath against Jiren. A few gags don't overwrite that imo.

  • @DoggyP00

    @DoggyP00

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ganoninthepit He got a lot of screen time, yes, but he also just turned into a complete joke. It isn't just a few gags. It's his entire character. Not a single Vegeta scene in super is not a gag to Vegeta memes. HIs scenes with trunks: every scene was him being a hardcore generic tsundere. Vegeta in super would fit right in with the copy pasta isekai's coming out these days. His scenes with bra: every scene was a gag on him being a hardcore generic tsundere. His scenes about saiyan pride: every scene was him screaming about nothing and being completely out of character. We've had huge character arcs through out dbz about vegeta that were completely ignored and shat on in these scenes in super.

  • @ganoninthepit

    @ganoninthepit

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DoggyP00 I think he was poorly written early in Super, when they retreaded his rivalry with Goku, but I think he was fine later on. He was far less of a tsundere with Trunks; when he was despairing over the broken Time Machine, he cheered Trunks right up by telling him to never give up hope. Z Vegeta never would've been that forward and supportive. He openly supported him during the Father-Son Galick Gun, took a blow from Zamasu for him, etc. And I don't see how the pride scenes were out of character? That's Vegeta's thing. I loved his scene against Jiren (when he was all tapped out) where he told Jiren that he'd never understand what it's like to have something to protect. He's embraced fighting for the right reasons. It's a step forward from his turn to being a good person at the end of Z. There are bad moments (when they try to revive the Goku jealousy) but overall I disagree.

  • @siaskies1704
    @siaskies17043 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate that you identified Goku as a morally grey character. Because he is, really- he's become less about fighting for something and more for fighting for the sake of fighting. Vegeta, though, is always fighting for something. His pride, his own safety, his goals, his family, his new planet- there's always a reason Vegeta seeks new heights. Sure, Goku says he's training just in case X happens, but he prioritizes his own strength a lot more than can be waved off. Battle comes before family. Vegeta initially did not give a fuck about the concept of loved ones. Now, though, he never puts anything above them. At this point, I think Vegeta is a better person than Goku.

  • @StevenJones851

    @StevenJones851

    11 ай бұрын

    Same i think Vegeta is a better Character and person than Goku

  • @chompiechomp6341
    @chompiechomp63414 жыл бұрын

    When I was young, Vegeta was one of the worst characters in DBZ for me as he was just so obsessed with his pride as a Prince of Saiyans. Growing up though made me appreciate him more. His methods are definitely wrong but it usually makes more sense. The frustrations he has as his people expects him to be the better or even the best since he's royalty and part of the elite. His redemption in the Buu Saga was one of best written storyline especially in the whole DBZ lore. Truly, he has the best character growth in the whole series. I'm actually glad Toriyama kept Vegeta as part of the Z Warriors ngl.

  • @whitelichmage7004

    @whitelichmage7004

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be honest I would consider Vegeta an Anti-Hero but to a much lesser degree. When you really see it he's much closer to being a Villain because yes while he has gotten better over the years it still doesn't excuse all of his most irredeemable acts such as wiping out entire alien races which results in like what billions of innocent lives lost to his hands, using gallet gun which would have blown up the earth if Goku wasn't there, letting Cell reach his final form thus putting the entire universe in danger all because of his foolish Saiyan pride, firing a kee blast which kills yet more innocent people oh yeah not to mention it just barely misses his wife and son just to get a rematch with Goku when he was Majin Vegeta and so much more. Vegeta is an interesting character but holy shit he's one of the biggest assholes in all of Dragon Ball yet and possibly all of anime but then again he's a Saiyan so being an asshole is basically the whole point of his character.

  • @LegendaryCaptain

    @LegendaryCaptain

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whitelichmage7004 don't forget how he murdered an entire namekian village and the namekians were never revived

  • @whitelichmage7004

    @whitelichmage7004

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LegendaryCaptain It's quite ironic how his fanbase praises him so such despite all of the horrible things he's done throughout his life. Some of which is enough to give even Frieza a run for his money. In fact Vegeta's level of immorality is enough to put even the most hated anime characters (i.e Shou Tuckner, Makoto Itou, Malty Melromarc, Sugou Nobuyuki, and Seryu Ubiquitous) to shame.

  • @LegendaryCaptain

    @LegendaryCaptain

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whitelichmage7004 you do have a point a better character example tho is Anakin/Darth Vader considering he casually murdered younglings allowed an entire planet destroyed and actually killed important good guys in a universe where death does really matter. Now that I think about most characters who redeem themselves in the end realistically wouldn't in real life the only example I can think of is Zuko considering he never accomplished anything irredeemable 😂

  • @TheAlphaLegionnaire
    @TheAlphaLegionnaire5 жыл бұрын

    I just found this channel and as a writer I’m astonished by how much depth you derive from this show. I mean I loved it as a kid but I was arrogant to think I couldn’t learn anything from Akira Toriama. Your analysis vids of the show always give me great insight into my own works. Not to mention a fun nostalgia trip. Thanks for the vids! Subscribed! Bell icon clicked!

  • @philbertius

    @philbertius

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes the best examples are the imperfect ones, otherwise you can’t see what doesn’t work.

  • @xavierbibin69
    @xavierbibin695 жыл бұрын

    07:44 *"He punched me in the d**k.. why.. why would he punch me in the d**k..?"* 😂

  • @thessj4yamcha5150

    @thessj4yamcha5150

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s not so funny is it now kakarrot

  • @theelderscout0314

    @theelderscout0314

    4 жыл бұрын

    “Is Goku gonna be okay?”

  • @thessj4yamcha5150

    @thessj4yamcha5150

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Elder Scout GET THE FUCK OFF ME!!!!!

  • @theone3746
    @theone37465 жыл бұрын

    Honestly Bulma is what made me love him. They way they interact is just so pure.

  • @Speed_Zamaa

    @Speed_Zamaa

    3 жыл бұрын

    That moment when vegeta was unconscious on a bed was very cute :'3 PD : I'm sorry if i made a typo in the word "unconscious", i'm not so skilled at english

  • @mexicanslap
    @mexicanslap5 жыл бұрын

    vegeta is the vegeta of every show

  • @chronicstamped
    @chronicstamped5 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta is the best character in Dragon ball

  • @gillianhill3978

    @gillianhill3978

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don't say that to popo

  • @imarock.7662

    @imarock.7662

    5 жыл бұрын

    One of them, anyway.

  • @jacobsermersheim6758

    @jacobsermersheim6758

    5 жыл бұрын

    I prefer piccolo

  • @elijahdavila3684

    @elijahdavila3684

    5 жыл бұрын

    @maciejl20 Toriyama really let a lot of characters fall into obscurity after a while. Just like how we see in Super that no one but Goku (and maaaaybe Vegeta) really have much to do.

  • @christopherpoblete8562

    @christopherpoblete8562

    5 жыл бұрын

    @maciejl20 Mr Satan disaproves your comment.

  • @evielee4228
    @evielee42285 жыл бұрын

    Kinda random, but I like that it wasn't just Bulma being the reason for Vegeta's character development; Vegeta already exhibited anti-hero traits before and beyond Bulma with characters like Krillin and Gohan and making Vegeta's redemption a more genuine effort. Bulma became one of the most important people to Vegeta, but she's not the only one. I hate that "she (love interest) is the only one who can understand him" trope in couples so much so to see that being averted with Vegeta and Bulma makes their relationship and Vegeta's character development more realistic.

  • @logacoolxtreme
    @logacoolxtreme5 жыл бұрын

    so, THAT'S why you were sketching those dope ass drawings on twitter.

  • @inFAMOUS2078
    @inFAMOUS20785 жыл бұрын

    so frieza is vegeta's mom confirmed?

  • @koj0s177

    @koj0s177

    5 жыл бұрын

    Frieza isssssss Male

  • @poop-kh7ir

    @poop-kh7ir

    5 жыл бұрын

    *dad

  • @christiancinnabars1402

    @christiancinnabars1402

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Who here just thought of Frieza with boobs?"

  • @Duzz1412

    @Duzz1412

    5 жыл бұрын

    well its not entirely wrong because Freiza is the reason he still alive..

  • @tiablue9106

    @tiablue9106

    5 жыл бұрын

    “I got a toy once, from my mother, Frieza. It was a rock and the head of my father” -Chris Sabat 2014 (for anyone curious, watch the “Marriage Counseling w/ Vegeta & Bulma” panel from Daisho Con :P)

  • @Notnow22
    @Notnow222 жыл бұрын

    Time and again I come back to this video because it is just so well made (just like the resto of them in the Anatomy of Anime playlist). I’m genuinely glad it has returned to KZread!

  • @bootygoodz9489
    @bootygoodz94894 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta is my favorite, but sometimes it feels like he only exists to show how strong the current big bad is.

  • @EvanSol919

    @EvanSol919

    3 жыл бұрын

    Worf Effect

  • @jensentertainment9481

    @jensentertainment9481

    3 жыл бұрын

    And that used to be Krillin’s job

  • @yinhlablessing624

    @yinhlablessing624

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jensentertainment9481 bbut vegeta is more than krillin,he is a strategist and goku is not that stronger than vegeta

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache5 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta, the guy who has slaughtered societies and innocents with an honest-to-Zeno smile on his face. Now, he's fighting gods for slapping his wife and getting mad when people make his daughter cry. Makes me worried we will actually see Frieza at Bulma's next birthday party.

  • @diannerenard

    @diannerenard

    5 жыл бұрын

    Knowing the way DB is being handled, it wouldn't be weird to see a revived Cell being the father-like figure of Pan, and revealing there's more saiyans around. Namely the original evil goku, Turles. Who would become a good guy at the end.

  • @packet9397

    @packet9397

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was on the guest list, as was explained to Trunks

  • @masterofthelyokianmonsters2886

    @masterofthelyokianmonsters2886

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dianne Renard I..would love to see that.

  • @llSuperSnivyll

    @llSuperSnivyll

    5 жыл бұрын

    Now I want to see Frieza attending Bulma's birthday party. Heck, I wanted to see Frieza joining the celebrations after saving the universe, but alas, we didn't get that.

  • @sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595

    @sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hope not. Freeza is Goku's archfoe. The Lex Luthor to his Superman, the Joker to his Batman. Cell, Boo... They will never be Frieza.

  • @AnonymousSaiyan
    @AnonymousSaiyan3 жыл бұрын

    this is fucking fantastic in terms of an essay...in terms of vegeta's complete story, and dragonball as a whole. fucking well dome, loved it man

  • @hideo7366
    @hideo73665 жыл бұрын

    3:39 when I saw this all I could think was "Blah blah blah blah blah Pride blah blah Prince of all blah blah Super Saiyans blah blah" and I don't know why...

  • @saharzaidi1018

    @saharzaidi1018

    4 жыл бұрын

    TFSForever 😂😂😂 #Mustache ...

  • @Sana_H
    @Sana_H5 жыл бұрын

    Flawed, unapologetic and gets the Job done🖤💀🖤

  • @somejerk5662

    @somejerk5662

    4 жыл бұрын

    He certainly does do the jobbing.

  • @LauGman
    @LauGman5 жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy that I came across this channel. Dragon Ball does have its flaws, but it seems like youtubers only talk about the flaws. You’re one of the only youtubers I know that talk about Dragon Ball in a positive light

  • @mohamedkhider6998

    @mohamedkhider6998

    4 жыл бұрын

    There's tons of them... geekdom..expergamez... there's tons of videos who praise it....like the greatest arc in shounen ..and yes totally not Mark

  • @saiyancurseultimate9402
    @saiyancurseultimate94025 жыл бұрын

    Perfecting the saiyan curse.

  • @maxalain9948

    @maxalain9948

    5 жыл бұрын

    He bottled the damn thing.

  • @BigManBrad678

    @BigManBrad678

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @lostinlucidity
    @lostinlucidity5 жыл бұрын

    Spoilers for the current run of the DBS manga Vegeta saving Namekians is the biggest character development ever. He went from terrorizing villages for his own self gain, to protecting them from a greater evil from Moro.

  • @rjante2236

    @rjante2236

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wish Vegeta would kill Moro to atone for his sins against the Namekians.

  • @ganoninthepit

    @ganoninthepit

    5 жыл бұрын

    He even personally admitted guilt and said he refused to let them die for what he did.

  • @Quibblet

    @Quibblet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bulma, Goku and the Z Fighters had a hand in his development over both series. Had he never met them, I don't know what would have been. I think some anti heroes are also drawn to the heroes as well because they know that they won't stab them in the back, like the villains would. They may be using the good guys, but you have to admire them for seeing some good in the antihero and giving them second chances. The hero, in most cases, can always be counted on to help out the antihero and even the antihero knows this. The villain, not so much.

  • @musa6073

    @musa6073

    4 жыл бұрын

    This. While it kind of feels unlike him, it is also who he is becoming. He regrets his past actions and is taking responsibility, he is trying to atone. And I love that.

  • @jojoyanggo
    @jojoyanggo2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Finally I can watch this again.

  • @AegisRick
    @AegisRick5 жыл бұрын

    4:57 S Y M P H A T Y

  • @icemagefullbusta

    @icemagefullbusta

    5 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @chinwenduizenwata6763

    @chinwenduizenwata6763

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I didn't wanna do it hehe

  • @Jb_loL
    @Jb_loL5 жыл бұрын

    All hail prince Vegeta

  • @Jb_loL

    @Jb_loL

    5 жыл бұрын

    @bryan diaz varela he he😂

  • @Zapiki

    @Zapiki

    5 жыл бұрын

    King of no one xD

  • @GantzIsSloppy

    @GantzIsSloppy

    5 жыл бұрын

    👎👎

  • @randommortal3383

    @randommortal3383

    5 жыл бұрын

    The king of Anti Heroes and even though he has no planet to rule, he still holds the pride of his people. He successfully avenged them (blue vs gold. The score is settled.) And restored their honor. He continues to be a warrior who is now a God Tier fighter. Truly honoring the name of Saiyan prince. Forsaking Kingship as he was never coronated.

  • @Zapiki

    @Zapiki

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@randommortal3383 Maybe i should mention it was a Dragonball abridged reffrence...

  • @ascendedisamazing
    @ascendedisamazing5 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta's alignment is Chaotic Good. Change my mind

  • @yourdailytoilet5962
    @yourdailytoilet59625 жыл бұрын

    From a serial killer to a bingo dancer!👏👏👏👏👏

  • @danielz-v4083
    @danielz-v40835 жыл бұрын

    What I got from this 10minute video , is that Frieza is basically Vegeta's mom. Now I will be unable to burn the image of a family picture of Vegeta, King Vegeta and Frieza ....thanks, Mark.

  • @DaimonAnimations

    @DaimonAnimations

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kakakarot Cake imagine Freeza with boobs xD

  • @sassysuiryu1114
    @sassysuiryu11145 жыл бұрын

    WE NEED FUTURE TRUNKS NEXT OR MY BOY GOHANNN

  • @Sindi_real

    @Sindi_real

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gohan would be cool

  • @SmartAlec1

    @SmartAlec1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Avatar source? Research purposes

  • @dlc3995

    @dlc3995

    5 жыл бұрын

    True i like those 2 better

  • @seniorpopo3962

    @seniorpopo3962

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SmartAlec1 nigga u gay

  • @BollywoodShank

    @BollywoodShank

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gohan would be tight, I kind of lived vicariously in the Dragonball universe through Gohan since I started watching with Z and not Dragonball-- So I was just as new to the universe as he was. I think a lot of viewers probably grew up with Gohan as well which is why he has such a strong fanbase.

  • @ForgiveMyMadness
    @ForgiveMyMadness4 жыл бұрын

    Vegita is deffo on the anime husband list 😍

  • @reubenfromow4854

    @reubenfromow4854

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cottonsocks434 “surprisingly daddy”

  • @jakebosson1239

    @jakebosson1239

    3 жыл бұрын

    You weird

  • @somebodyyouknow5290
    @somebodyyouknow52902 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of a quote from Chuck Jones: "We are all Daffy Ducks." Meaning we all wish to be the powerful guy (in this case Bugs or Goku) but in reality, we're the 2nd fiddle (Vegeta and Daffy.)

  • @karlmueller1980
    @karlmueller19805 жыл бұрын

    Wolverine is the same way and that’s why I loved him so much and still do to this day.

  • @thatonecommenter7169
    @thatonecommenter71695 жыл бұрын

    Defeating a sandwitch only makes it tastier... *blehh

  • @logandunlap9156

    @logandunlap9156

    3 жыл бұрын

    BLUUUUHI’M DEEAAD

  • @mithmoonwalker
    @mithmoonwalker4 жыл бұрын

    vegeta: i had my people crushed and my pride bashed and broken down, to do so i let out my hate on anybody weaker but i slowly became a better person, i saw hope and my pride was able to fix it self, i became a husband, a father and a friend and across it all i have done good and bad things. and at the end of it all, i was able to let go of my pride, through it i helped everybody

  • @Sevenizer1
    @Sevenizer13 жыл бұрын

    My father has always told me, “The anti-hero is a bad guy who does good things.” While that isn’t all anti-heroes, it certainly fits Vegeta as an anti-hero, a character who has bad ends that are achieved by working with the heroes to fulfill their goals. One character who I don’t see mentioned often as an anti-hero character is Brutaka from Lego’s Bionicle franchise. His path from (mostly) hero to villain to anti-hero began with a losing of faith in his god that led him to ally with evil people to pursue one of the strongest mask of power in the Bionicle universe, the Mask of Life. For those who don’t know, this mask has the power to revive dying and dead gods and eradicate all life in the universe; it’s dangerous in the wrong hands. Brutaka found himself punished for his crimes, but when he witnessed true evil in a duel against the main villain of the Bionicle series, Makuta Teridax, he found himself in the anti-hero role by facing off against him and giving the Makuta a run for his money. In thwarting the Makuta’s plans, Brutaka was given probationary status in the order he once was a part of and eventually went on to lead the Bionicle franchise’s version of the Suicide Squad. I think Brutaka’s story is worth a read if you have the time.

  • @EastyyBlogspot
    @EastyyBlogspot5 жыл бұрын

    I just loved Vegeta because i believe he is the character that has changed the most, and when you saw in super how much he cared for bulma and the fact that he got closer to his family which i still think Goku has not done, Oh speaking of which in Dragon ball noticed how many bad guys become good, Piccolo,Vegeta,Android 17 and 18, Majin buu (though could argue with him was more child like)

  • @WaterKirby1994

    @WaterKirby1994

    5 жыл бұрын

    Android 17 & 18 were bad guys? I thought that was where Trunks Timeline differed from the Main Timeline. Kami went & said that they didn't seem so evil, & only agreed to merge with Piccolo because of the threat Cell posed. Majin Buu removed all the evil from him which eventually became Kid Buu.

  • @ClulssCrs3310
    @ClulssCrs33103 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap ...this was excellent! Yes! We live unapologetically through his life! DBS manga has me on edge on what else will Vegeta go through to grow more!

  • @persephoneblack888
    @persephoneblack8885 жыл бұрын

    Man, I freaking love Vegeta.

  • @L.Reeves
    @L.Reeves5 жыл бұрын

    literally the best father in the show

  • @supershyguytoast5776
    @supershyguytoast57765 жыл бұрын

    "You aren't dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore..."

  • @laxyiechinzah543
    @laxyiechinzah5435 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta is the coolest and coldest anime character of all time.

  • @King_of_Antisemites

    @King_of_Antisemites

    5 жыл бұрын

    WAS

  • @Odinsday

    @Odinsday

    5 жыл бұрын

    Who was colder? Vegeta or Freezer?

  • @SSangsen

    @SSangsen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta is cool, but Freeza's brother is Cooler.

  • @jorgegfigueroa9755

    @jorgegfigueroa9755

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SSangsen Freezer was Cooler, and Cooler...was Freezer

  • @daboi7095

    @daboi7095

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@King_of_Antisemites what u mean

  • @korhol2065
    @korhol20653 жыл бұрын

    At least Vegeta isn’t giving his enemy a senzu bean

  • @fernandonavia8804
    @fernandonavia88045 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Goku changed Vegeta. Still Vegeta is more interesting, compeling and developed character. I love Goku, he's my childhood and just watching his clothes makes me happy, but Vegeta ... Man, what a character. I love to see him so enloved with Bulma, one of my all time favourite characters. Also, Goku just started Vegeta's change, but it was Bulma who changed him in the end. Bulma gave him a place to call home and a family to protect. Without Bulma, Trunks and Bra, Vegeta wouldnt care about earth at all.

  • @MothGM

    @MothGM

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Abbas Alqattan the hell…? One; how is that related. Two; the fuck does that mean?

  • @razkable

    @razkable

    2 жыл бұрын

    vegeta copies goku

  • @anxiousearth680

    @anxiousearth680

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Abbas Alqattan Godzilla??

  • @MGengarDude
    @MGengarDude5 жыл бұрын

    Goku and Vegeta in my opinion are one of the best rivals in fiction. Their relationship as well as interactions from being enemies to rivals bonded by respect was really well done.

  • @ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
    @ndprod.animationenthusiast93765 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Vegeta really did outdo Piccolo as Goku’s rival!

  • @SaltoDaKid

    @SaltoDaKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    N&D Productions and now its Hit

  • @bigenson18

    @bigenson18

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SaltoDaKid It's still Vegeta. No one bothers to try to catch up to Goku.

  • @benjaminbierley2074

    @benjaminbierley2074

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigenson18 Indeed, Hit finds him interesting but doesn't really try to pursue matching Goku's power (mainly because his skill set isn't really "power" based), whereas Vegeta has flat out said it several times that Goku is the reason he works so hard to get stronger and has no interest in killing him for that reason.

  • @benjaminbierley2074

    @benjaminbierley2074

    5 жыл бұрын

    Something else when you consider Vegeta's place as Goku's rival...is the first thing fans have done with characters like Hit and Jiren is measure them against Vegeta, and some people dislike them because they don't measure up because Vegeta is so compelling in that role. I'd argue his rivalry also benefits Goku as a character since by rivaling Goku's power it gives a measuring stick for that ever growing power, and he's the only one who's consistently been able to keep up (which given how DBZ left ALOT of characters in the dust power wise is saying something).

  • @mikemarks6136

    @mikemarks6136

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@benjaminbierley2074 couldn't have said it better

  • @stew20
    @stew203 жыл бұрын

    At the end of the day it all boils down to entertainment. And there's absolutely no question about who is more entertaining between the two.

  • @indigoimouto3703
    @indigoimouto37034 жыл бұрын

    It's so cool that you're giving clear, factual writing advice through anime. I've always loved Vegeta

  • @ajarofpickles2826
    @ajarofpickles28265 жыл бұрын

    I prefer to call Vegeta “Ultimate Badass” which is a far more fitting title IMAO. I can respect a man who is willing to get the job done and doesn’t screw around

  • @jaehyunchu6753

    @jaehyunchu6753

    5 жыл бұрын

    * semi-perfect cell flashbacks occur

  • @stardust_falls

    @stardust_falls

    5 жыл бұрын

    Trunks

  • @theultimateawesome5516

    @theultimateawesome5516

    5 жыл бұрын

    A jar of pickles Vegeta fucks around tho you mean trunks

  • @mjangelvortex

    @mjangelvortex

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jaehyunchu6753 * Letting Buu come out hibernation flashbacks occur

  • @faburos9012

    @faburos9012

    5 жыл бұрын

    *Letting Frieza transformed into his 2nd form Flashback occur*

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay33585 жыл бұрын

    _This sums up perfectly why Vegeta is one of the most popular characters out of Dragon Ball._

  • @chris7285
    @chris72853 жыл бұрын

    I look up to Vegeta because he’s got something I don’t. I’m what you could consider a soft easy going guy. There’s characteristics of Vegeta that i find admirable.

  • @salamanderstudios5894
    @salamanderstudios58945 жыл бұрын

    This was extremely well done, I can't say I like Vegeta at all really but your break down and analysis was extremely useful for me as a writer.

  • @snakeeyes6915
    @snakeeyes69155 жыл бұрын

    You shouldn't have had TFS in the pole in the comparison video. It destroyed the others!

  • @ScarletSenjin

    @ScarletSenjin

    5 жыл бұрын

    TFS is also not that good, funny but not that good for the series

  • @maiharuka432

    @maiharuka432

    5 жыл бұрын

    Read the original manga :\ TFS stays true to a lot of things.

  • @smileyent.3055

    @smileyent.3055

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@maiharuka432 name some

  • @maiharuka432

    @maiharuka432

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@smileyent.3055 If you actually go and read the manga, probably issue 416-417 during the Cell Games -_- the original anime needed filler so added everyone helping Gohan out, well during the TFS version they edited the part out because Piccolo pointed out ahead of time the power they had wasn't enough and he hated being so weak. In the actual Manga if you read it only Vegeta helps out while the others bail out with Trunks. A lot of portions in the anime had been edited for better or for worse to extend the episodes and make them a little more impact-ful so it's best to read the manga at some point.

  • @tjhicks3600

    @tjhicks3600

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@maiharuka432 TFS is ass

  • @SpiegelmanSzn
    @SpiegelmanSzn5 жыл бұрын

    I do like how you said both Krillin and Gohan have higher and stronger morals than Goku. People forget Goku isn’t always the strongest of conviction when it comes to doing good.

  • @anivibes2968
    @anivibes29683 жыл бұрын

    As a Kid Goku was my Rolemodel teaching me how to be a Kid and live freely with No worries but when i grew Up Vegeta showed me how hard Life and reallity is and you have to Work hard to live a Modest life

  • @DSTruecaliber7x
    @DSTruecaliber7x5 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your videos man. I appreciate the detail and references and has helped out my writing a lot. Again thank you! I hope you keep going with these.

  • @mibrahim5053
    @mibrahim50535 жыл бұрын

    Prince Zuko is a good example

  • @saibamen2597

    @saibamen2597

    5 жыл бұрын

    True! But he's not a anime character sadly

  • @toxiclightning5303

    @toxiclightning5303

    5 жыл бұрын

    Saibamen he’s an anti hero nonetheless

  • @montoya2094

    @montoya2094

    5 жыл бұрын

    Saibamen technically avatar is an anime

  • @sumama9409

    @sumama9409

    5 жыл бұрын

    Animation = Anime = Cartoons F*cking Weebs

  • @AvatarTheLastPodcasters

    @AvatarTheLastPodcasters

    5 жыл бұрын

    Prince Zuko is like 10 times better. He has the best character arc in all of tv. I feel like vegeta never really gets the point of heroism. My example of this is that he kills 100s of innocent people at the martial arts tournament.

  • @Javixk17
    @Javixk175 жыл бұрын

    KZread isn’t accustomed to this high quality content, EXCELLENT video and analysis, super insightful

  • @awesomereviews1561

    @awesomereviews1561

    5 жыл бұрын

    Javixk17 lol, are you serious?! He spreads misinformation in pretty much every video he makes. In this one: He said “ Toriyama changed the name from Dragonball to DBZ because Goku grew up and it was now Goku’s story has an adult”. It’s 100% incorrect. It’s Toei who made this decision because they were unhappy with the quality of the Dragonball anime. They fired most of team and replaced it with new people at key post. To indicate a new era with this new team, Toei added the Z.

  • @Javixk17

    @Javixk17

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Reviews i dont think it was THAT literal, try to focus more on the vid that in little details that can be picked off context to be wrong

  • @t.n.patronis4098
    @t.n.patronis40984 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta was definitely one of my favorite characters from DBZ as a kid. This explains a lot of that favoritism!

  • @razkable

    @razkable

    2 жыл бұрын

    hes so boring as a hero hero now though...

  • @y2kmedia118
    @y2kmedia1184 жыл бұрын

    The concept of the anti hero is psychologically liberating for a lot of people, especially those who fell victims to conformity because they see the ideal self that isn't afraid to speak up and break the norm in the anti hero. This is one of the reasons the writings of Nietzsche are considered one of the most liberating and insightful in Philosophy. It's because Nietzsche's style of writing is very anti hero which makes it very genuine and authentic.

  • @QoVoCGaming
    @QoVoCGaming5 жыл бұрын

    Why was Vegeta so easily forgiven for slaughtering a namekian village?

  • @VoraciousHeart

    @VoraciousHeart

    5 жыл бұрын

    simplest way to explain it would be because they were a different species than the main characters, outside of piccolo obviously. that and what are they going to do about it? outside of goku (who doesnt care) everyone is weaker than him.

  • @diannerenard

    @diannerenard

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bad writing and character handling. It was already set in stone that vegeta was going to join team goku, so we can't let things like the murders on his orders of earthlings and goku's friends, or the murders of namekians get in the way of him becoming goku's BFF

  • @eggcelentrat4005

    @eggcelentrat4005

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cause could they stop him best to keep him in a good mood on their side

  • @charlesstanford3904

    @charlesstanford3904

    5 жыл бұрын

    Read the current arc in the manga he’s making up for it but baby steps tho

  • @thacerot4395

    @thacerot4395

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because we didn't knew those namekians, we didn't connect with their characters. So we just don't care.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi5 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't call Goku unrelatable. He wants to save people, get stronger, and he cares about his family and friends. I definitely relate to Goku more than I relate to the merciless, selfish, arrogant killer Vegeta originally was. Even today Vegeta can still be ruthless and prideful and I accordingly relate to Goku's cheeriness more. There are certainly elements to both Saiyans which I do and don't relate to, but I still relate more to Goku overall when compared to Vegeta.

  • @ikedatike2533

    @ikedatike2533

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't necessarily agree with you but you do make a great point

  • @razkable

    @razkable

    5 жыл бұрын

    people who watched og dragonball: goku is the best...dbz only western nostalgia tards: vegeta rules..me: gokus the hero...vegetas a sideman....give me a break..goku all day

  • @Drums_of_Liberation

    @Drums_of_Liberation

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Goku doesn't want to save people. Lest we forget he only fought King Piccolo for a selfish need for revenge. The Red Ribbon Army was just an obstacle in the way of his quest for his Grandpa's Dragon Ball. Hell he only ever saved Jingle Village's chief out of a need to be even for Snow for saving him earlier. And let's not forget instead of stopping the Android threat head on before it could happen. "Hurr durr I wanna fight me some Androids."

  • @Asonunique23

    @Asonunique23

    5 жыл бұрын

    Obi-Wan Kenobi a

  • @xijinping4418

    @xijinping4418

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@razkable That was almost English.

  • @GugSport
    @GugSport5 жыл бұрын

    Great vídeo, as was the last one. But one thing to be pointed out: in the last video, you made a good point on why Goku isn't a boring character, but not for why he isn't one dimensional, which can be related but are very different things.

  • @JeanCarloz1
    @JeanCarloz15 жыл бұрын

    Damn, I just discovered your channel by accident and now I can't stop watching, you're videos are really awesome, keep it up.

  • @berizzel23
    @berizzel235 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta has been my favorite character since he first appeared. I relate to him the most. I was today years old when I realized we are both anti-heroes 😑

  • @mikechrist9699

    @mikechrist9699

    3 жыл бұрын

    What actually make you an anti hero?

  • @sammyboi8938
    @sammyboi89385 жыл бұрын

    Damn it, Mark! Why do you use that old DBZ mystery-horror soundtrack!? It gave me goosebumps! And I love it!

  • @PartyQuest
    @PartyQuest5 жыл бұрын

    vegeta is my fav! i admire him. also the quality and editing of your videos is sick! wow one of the best editing videos, congrats! bro.

  • @DissidiaGamer
    @DissidiaGamer5 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are always extremely well-thought out. Couldn't believe I had forgotten to subscribe for so long, but I've just done that and hit the bell icon. Looking forward to future analyses.

  • @frankythefatboi1952
    @frankythefatboi19525 жыл бұрын

    Cool another video. Been binging your stuff lately.

  • @denisn8336
    @denisn83365 жыл бұрын

    vegeta is an amazing character

  • @elliotr5706
    @elliotr57063 жыл бұрын

    Really well put together video!

  • @supersaiyanwilch
    @supersaiyanwilch5 жыл бұрын

    OMG, these vids are great! How do you not have more subscribers... This video is spot on.

  • @snoopyfod1807
    @snoopyfod18075 жыл бұрын

    Ever consider doing deep dives for Yu Yu Hakusho?

  • @allsorrowz

    @allsorrowz

    5 жыл бұрын

    He’s a dragon ball channel

  • @Odinsday

    @Odinsday

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but..... YYH is better.

  • @GorshFlytgear
    @GorshFlytgear5 жыл бұрын

    Manga ch 44 spoilers: Vegeta’s greatest moments are his heroic ones. Which is in large part due to his evil past, making it even more compelling when he does heroic things. What may be regarded as one of his most heroic moments is in DBS manga 44 when he saves a Namekian child from Moro showing that not only has he moved on from his evil ways, he will actively pursue atonement for his past deeds when the opportunity present themself, especially when he has the chance to beat the crap out of a bad guy.

  • @imarock.7662
    @imarock.76625 жыл бұрын

    Goku and Vegeta. My two favorite characters!

  • @xnastystream3663
    @xnastystream36635 жыл бұрын

    I'll never understand how a mass murdering prince born with natural talent and power is more relatable, then the runt of the litter who works hard to achieve strength.

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