Vector Validator, Ignore Open Vectors [Vectric Vcarve & Aspire] - Garrett Fromme

This Vectric Vcarve / Aspire video tutorial will help you understand and fix open vector issues in toolpaths. Sometimes, when calculating tool paths, you will see alarms such as 'ignoring unsuitable open vectors'.
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Пікірлер: 105

  • @michaelvoit810
    @michaelvoit8104 ай бұрын

    So many little things to learn about all of this. But all the videos you have done I think I have watched them all a few times over. Thanks Garrett your help is greatly appreciated.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    4 ай бұрын

    michaelvoit810, you are so welcome my friend.

  • @flashgordon1599
    @flashgordon15994 ай бұрын

    Its amazing what you can achieved with a good teacher. Thanx Garrett.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    4 ай бұрын

    glashgordon1599, you're so welcome brother! Keep up the great work!

  • @rubertgates6064
    @rubertgates60642 жыл бұрын

    Excellent tutorial!! Thank you Garrett!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rubert, Your welcome. Happy to help my friend.

  • @michael89lott
    @michael89lott Жыл бұрын

    Thanks once again for the help. Will be buying some bits this next week thanks again.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Michael, vectors can be a bit tricky so I'm glad this one helped. As for the bits, your support is so very much appreciated.

  • @ollianddelphine
    @ollianddelphine3 жыл бұрын

    This is a great explanation. I did not know about the method of cutting at the node. Very useful. Thanks

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ollie. Vectric has so many little tricks up its sleeve. I'm trying to get them all out to you so you know.

  • @ronjamison4346
    @ronjamison4346 Жыл бұрын

    Very well done! I ran into the same types of problems after tracing a bitmap and had no idea how to fix the problems. Now I Know! Thanks, Garrett!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Ron, you are so welcome brother. You are bitmap master after this one!

  • @barbaber8131
    @barbaber81312 жыл бұрын

    I learn so much every time I watch one of your videos.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Barb, you're one of my favorites here. What type of video would you like to see. Send me an email and I'll see if I can bump it into the list a little higher.

  • @ralphalameda1381
    @ralphalameda13812 жыл бұрын

    great video found that there's a button called vector validator and what the different symbols mean and how to repair vector issues

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello again Ralph. and another list of takeaways! Thank you.

  • @bopexplorer3663
    @bopexplorer36633 жыл бұрын

    I had a similar issue with an engraving yesterday. Multiple duplicate vectors being ignored. ( line over line ). My quick fix was to click on a line, ( would show up as a darker pink ) , then I click it again ( whch would select it and not the 2nd line, then delete. No node editing / moving required. Cleaned it all up in just a few minutes :-) After this i have better understanding of the vector validator though . Cheers

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    You found an easy path to solve the overlap.

  • @walterzeranski7289
    @walterzeranski72892 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! I redrew the grid pattern for my waste board about 8 times to try and get it to generate a toolpath. Same error kept coming up. After watching this, one click and I was good to go! Garrett you are my hero because I was at wits end. Thank you brother!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Walter, Right on brother! Happy to hear that your spoilboard is sorted!

  • @JoeCorrado
    @JoeCorrado3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Garrett, another great video that is very much appreciated. My son was stumped for a minute... about the length of his patience! Anyway- you are awesome!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Joe. Glad he got it. and glad this one helped you.

  • @grantpeckford2035
    @grantpeckford20353 жыл бұрын

    Great video came just time for my project!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    What project are you working on where this willhelp?

  • @grantpeckford2035

    @grantpeckford2035

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is the flower of life pattern, it has overlapping circles.

  • @cncprogrammer3265
    @cncprogrammer32652 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your help in shortening my Vectric learning curve.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    You got it CNC!

  • @barbaber8131
    @barbaber8131 Жыл бұрын

    This was perfect! I just had this vine up in my program and couldn’t figure it out. Thank you so much Garrett 😃

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Barb, Happy to help!

  • @gerrysmith4493
    @gerrysmith4493 Жыл бұрын

    Helped me VERY much!! Thanks

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Gerry, you are so welcome my friend.

  • @cncprogrammer3265
    @cncprogrammer32652 жыл бұрын

    I've been using Mastercam since the early 90's, starting with V6. This often was a common issue. Seeing what was or was not happening, revealed what and where the problem was and the course of action to take to solve it. When I began using Vectric, I couldn't do anything with it. Trying to diagnose a problem with Mastercam thinking and solutions did not help. Videos like yours and others helped me get through those problems step by step. They are very valuable teaching tools. Thanks for doing them.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey CNC. Yes, it's one of those strange things that totally challenges us. Thank you for your compliment here.

  • @kadeemccormick329
    @kadeemccormick32910 ай бұрын

    Garrett - Excellent video, best one yet and I estimate I've watched about 20 of yours so far. I have had this problem before using other software when I tried to create a pathway from an image and sadly without this validate fx I had to just abandon the project when I could not determine where the vector was corrupted. Almost ready to open a project. Ms. KaDee

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    10 ай бұрын

    KaDee, I'm glad it was helpful for you my friend! Thanks for all the kind words! Happy cutting!

  • @andreww6738
    @andreww67383 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Garrett, as usual great video. I'm glad you covered this issue, because it did confuse me a bit and at times downright annoyes me, but I guess there are worse things going on in life. Those nodes can be a tad tricky at times. Caution ... patience required. Thanks Andrew.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Andrew. Yeah, sometimes Vectric returns errors and we don;t know what to do with them. So glad this one helped you. It'll make a difference in the future for sure for you.

  • @colindavidson4044
    @colindavidson4044 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant and very useful 👍

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Collin, glad it was helpful brother!

  • @msmith08311
    @msmith083112 жыл бұрын

    What an excellent tutorial. Very clearly explained and extremely helpful. Looked around for quite some time before finding a video that really explained this. Great job. Just subscribed! Keep them coming.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mike. Thank you, and welcome to the community! Anything else like this you want to know, let me know.

  • @plinkermostly771
    @plinkermostly7713 жыл бұрын

    Straight forward, very clear explanation -- deeply appreciated!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Plinker. thank you.

  • @jimhatch5873
    @jimhatch58733 жыл бұрын

    Fixing the section on the front fender would have been a good time to show using the bezier handles to re-establish the curve that got altered into a more angular corner (18:24). Regardless of the size of the part, it's worth fixing it right. 😊

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jim. You're right and I thought about that after I loaded the video. Good catch.

  • @rega3160
    @rega31602 жыл бұрын

    I encountered this error today and I did not have a clue of what was going on. Very helpful video. Thank you Garrett!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Reg. Vector validator is very helpful. Whenever you re trying to carve something and the software give you an error, always go to this tool.

  • @rega3160

    @rega3160

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft Thank you Garrett!

  • @davidwilson9988
    @davidwilson99882 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, great tutorial

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're totally welcome David!

  • @josephcorrado6454
    @josephcorrado64543 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for helping Garrett! Definitely helps a lot! I worked on it for a long time joining vectors before I sent it to you there were way more, those there kept stumping me. Thanks for showing those tricks and how to manipulate those nodes- very informative! Looking forward to seeing more videos from you. Thanks again!- Joe (the younger of the two)

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    You 2 Joes have me so confused...lol. So when I yell "Joe!", at least you'll both answer.

  • @josephcorrado6454

    @josephcorrado6454

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft LOL that is true

  • @ronmisiura9169
    @ronmisiura91693 ай бұрын

    That was a really good video. Thank you sir.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 ай бұрын

    ronmisiura9169, you are so welcome my friend.

  • @nikopeters9660
    @nikopeters9660 Жыл бұрын

    That is a very helpful video 👍

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Niko, glad to hear it my friend.

  • @karlriley1314
    @karlriley13143 жыл бұрын

    Awesome work.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Karl

  • @bobmonday925
    @bobmonday92510 ай бұрын

    Ran into this problem today..thanks

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    10 ай бұрын

    Bob, you're so welcome brother!

  • @brianharris3602
    @brianharris3602 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for video

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Brian, you are so welcome my friend.

  • @michaeljameson1046
    @michaeljameson10463 жыл бұрын

    cheers thanks

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    you got it my friend!

  • @timcreagh585
    @timcreagh5852 жыл бұрын

    Yes that was extremely helpful thank you.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent. How did it help?

  • @timcreagh585

    @timcreagh585

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft Explained how to get rid of two of those pesky Validation Errors. Only one left is Zero Length Spans. I struggled with how to remove those to the point I went on to another project!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@timcreagh585 sometimes you can still carve the project even with a vector validation error

  • @timcreagh585

    @timcreagh585

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft I have done that in the past and actually can't figure out why it said there was a problem as I couldn't see any issues other than the spindle drove about 200 miles when it only need to drive 85. Sometimes I wonder about that thing moving from one end to the other just to poke a dot in the word and then move back????

  • @taqataqi9624
    @taqataqi96243 жыл бұрын

    thank you very detail and clear ..

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Taqa. You're welcome. :)

  • @taqataqi9624

    @taqataqi9624

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft do you have any ide where do i start to selling my product because im new in this by the way im indonesian.. glad to know you.. im really appreciated for all of you done on youtube.. thanks again

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@taqataqi9624 I will shoot a video about that in several days.

  • @taqataqi9624

    @taqataqi9624

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft thank you garrett im really appreciated .. waiting for that..

  • @dickesch4024
    @dickesch4024 Жыл бұрын

    Had this same problem with text last week.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Dick, glad to hear this video helped you out then my friend.

  • @HowToFromMeToYou
    @HowToFromMeToYou Жыл бұрын

    Is there any other ways to tell if a node is on top of another node other than dragging it out?

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Steve, this video should help you brother. Here is a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hI2El7Z6ZM6dYKw.html

  • @michaeljameson1046
    @michaeljameson10463 жыл бұрын

    Good one hey Garrett do you do any freelance type 3d models say a spoon with a bulldog in the spoon cheers

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mike. I do not do freelance work. Sorry. However, I am working on developing such a resource. In the meantime, you can use a service call www.fiverr.com they are reasonable.

  • @BarbSprayberry
    @BarbSprayberry Жыл бұрын

    So what do you do to fix the zero-lengths spans?

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Barb, you can delete them manually with the node edit tool. I have a few videos that should help you out. Here's one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXl72tCllt3Tfrw.html Here is another: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hI2El7Z6ZM6dYKw.html That should get you up to speed!

  • @josephcorrado6454
    @josephcorrado64543 жыл бұрын

    also Jeep Nation!

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    3 жыл бұрын

    JEEEP NATION...yes!!!!

  • @barbaber8131
    @barbaber8131 Жыл бұрын

    Garrett I understand when you’re in “profile”, but I’m getting this problem in “pocket”. The same rules don’t seem to apply. If I try to join vectors, it connects it through a second part I don’t want it going through. Any suggestions?

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Barb. I know what your problem is but I can't explain it in text

  • @barbaber8131

    @barbaber8131

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft Ok. Sooooo…😕

  • @cire411
    @cire4112 ай бұрын

    Love your video's, but so frustrated. Been working on a piece for 3 days now, and thought I was done...49 intersections! I was able to solve the overlaps, thanks to your video, but I can't figure out the intersections. I found your "JD Crafts" video, and it's a similar issue, but it seems that was unresolved as well. The points are merely connecting with lines at various locations, but no matter what I try; "join open", "join/close", "curve fit", "fillet", redraw the lines or curves, nothing seems to work. Any feedback would be helpful as I'm under a time crunch to complete.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 ай бұрын

    crztrn1, glad to hear you liked it!

  • @IH1940HAY
    @IH1940HAY2 жыл бұрын

    I have VcarvePro 11 but I do not see the vector validation symbol, how can I get it displayed?

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi HH. If it is not showing up, you will need to contact Vectric. It should be there.

  • @IH1940HAY

    @IH1940HAY

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IDCWoodcraft LOL, I had used my old 8.5 version of VCP, not the 11 version. Opened it with the 11 Ver and found it. And solved the problem. And yes I moved my version 8.5 into a folder off the desktop.

  • @Michaelsmith1952
    @Michaelsmith19522 жыл бұрын

    Hello Garrett, I have a question but can't seem to find an e-mail for you. How do I contact you??

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mike. Looks like you found it. I'll answer it tomorrow.

  • @Mtbeaver9
    @Mtbeaver98 ай бұрын

    When I try to calculate toolpath it tells me I have duplicate toolpaths and will ignore them. It calculates but makes a ton of air cuts and takes forever to run. How do I find the duplicate paths?

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    7 ай бұрын

    MtBeaver, try to look at your list of toolpaths for duplicates brother! Either that or you might have issues with your z zero when you run your project!

  • @smokeebeefpv
    @smokeebeefpv5 ай бұрын

    Victor the Validator

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    5 ай бұрын

    Smokeebee, haha good one brother.

  • @hanspijpers2100
    @hanspijpers21004 ай бұрын

    Why not use : right click select all open vectors , and then join vectors to join all or nearly all of the open vectors ? (Edit Options, first column last item ) That's way faster then fixing them one by one. Kind regards Hans

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    4 ай бұрын

    hansspijpers, that is a great way to do it brother! If that works better for you then by all means go for it.

  • @powerpc6037
    @powerpc60372 жыл бұрын

    The error message went away at the end because you chose the profile toolpath to run ON the lines, while the original error message popped up when you tried to run the profile toolpath outside the line. You also ran that same toolpath before you started fixing everything and it didn't give the error, so it doesn't have anything to do with faulty vectors overlapping or intersecting. If you simply draw 2 lines, where one runs horizontal and the other runs vertical and they intersect, you still can run both using a profile toolpath on the lines and it will mill perfectly. I guess everything you did didn't fix that issue because that error informs you that there are open vectors in the design that it cannot run using a profile toolpath outside the lines. An open vector doesn't have an outside or inside, so you cannot run the profile toolpath on the outside with everything selected. When you just ran it anyways, only the outline of the jeep and wheels were calculated as those were closed vectors which do have an outside and inside and will run fine using such a toolpath. All the details in the jeep are designed with open vectors and cannot be calculated using a profile toolpath outside the line. So the issue persists, even after fixing everything using the vector validator. You could select the wheels and jeep outline and run a profile toolpath outside the lines, then select all the details and run another profile toolpath ON the lines.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    PowerPC603 Vaelen, you bring up a lot of great points about the open vectors! Thanks for the tips my friend!

  • @powerpc6037

    @powerpc6037

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@IDCWoodcraft Just got on my pc to try some stuff myself to confirm my own theory. Seems Aspire 10.5 (I got a trial version) does calculate a profile toolpath on the outside or inside of a straight line and arcs that are open vectors without any errors. I'm a beginner myself and assumed doing a profile cut on the outside/inside of an open vector wouldn't work but it does. It seems my above assumption is not entirely correct. But I'm still wondering why you couldn't get the details to show up when doing those outside profile toolpaths on them, especially on vectors that didn't have errors according to the vector validator. I also created a zigzap polyline that intersects itself 5 times and ran an outside profile toolpath. Vector validator says I got 5 intersections but calculating the toolpath gives no errors, just an unexpected result as not the entire line has been cut out.

  • @IDCWoodcraft

    @IDCWoodcraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    You cannot run a profile tool path on an open vector unless you are on the line. If you create clothes vectors across each other, you will get validation errors.

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