VCR in washing machine - sideways
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Dry test run with 3 phase applied to the 42 Pole F&P Smart drive motor.
This motor has pretty good torque. Speed is 144 1/7 RPM.
Old VCR and some 12 Volts SLA batteries were inserted to see what would happen.
3 Phase obtained via rotary converter. 3 x 230 Volts
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Ahh the old VCR and SLR cycle.. Thats my fav wash cycle of all :P
Never thought of putting a permanent magnet motor on 3 Phase till now. very nice ray :)
That cogging sound at 38 seconds is amazing :D My parents have the Fisher & Paykel GWL11 washer; it spins at 1000 rpm which means it must be clocking the motor at 700 hz. Classy. Guess that explains the amazing jet engine whine it makes. To engage the basket to the agitator, you have to just press down on it. There's a set of splines that interlock. The idea is, the floaty ring at the bottom of the basket will raise it up once it's full of water and that allows agitation. Once it's drained it'll allow spin. It allowed them to get around having to add a transmission.
@umbrefawx
9 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what that jet engine whine is a smart drive or BLDC motor is. Its the motors drive/inverter maing that noise as it "Ramps up." What you are hearing is the drive Frequency from the drive/inverter itself as it spins up.
@umbrefawx
9 жыл бұрын
umbrefawx Well hearing it through the windings I should say.
@LoganT547
2 жыл бұрын
@@umbrefawx the whine is not caused just by frequency, it's also harmonics of the magnetic field interacting with the windings. I always thought the speed of the BLDC motor was controlled by the voltage, not the frequency
I take it the washer works perfectly aside from having a blown inverter or control board. My top loader all I needed to fix it was a $10 pump insert. Now good for another decade.
interesting, may try that with my F&P Genny!!
Needs more RPM's Ray :) Good effort though mate ;)
LOL I done this a few years back and the VCR broke the belt on the drum. I really should look out for more old washing machines as its very fun.
I must say, the VCR's housing was shaving off the washer's plastic shielding! I wouldn't wanna have my hands on that part when it was in motion! O.o The batteries were trivial it seems to get thrown inside and in place and eventually it stalled the motor. Amazing! But I would love to see that hooked up to a REALLY powerful motor and then spinning a shitload of nuts and bolts! :P
good job washer
Just how are you going to hang those out to dry on the glowing washing line? Your pegs will either catch fire or not hold.
@RODALCO2007
9 жыл бұрын
LOL !!
This is a brushless motor. difficult to come by
Ah I love the sound of the SmartDrive motors, but this one is only running at a fraction of it's original speed.
I bet the heads were really clean after this. I'm not sure if the tracking would have been true though... or does it have auto-tracking?
1:10 drum broken with agiator
Actually... hmmm... I just remembered something useful and silly. These F&P motors come with a rotor position sensor that's a 3 stage Hall effect sensor. Directly connecting the Hall sensor outputs to mosfets to drive the windings will make the motor free run. HOW FAST CAN YOU GET IT?! :D
@user-pj5ub2ey3v
Жыл бұрын
Jealous guy here
I think the VCR is all nice and clean. Pop it into the dryer and you'll either have a fresh crushed up VCR or a nice destroyed dryer. What's bad about that?
Very good keyboard systèm
It has a direct drive motor
1:38 Using Top Load Washer As A Front Load Washer 4:42 Normal
You need to build a mechanical VFD. With a DC motor running an AC generator.
@szhuang3322
6 жыл бұрын
Coolkeys2009 』。ㄞ。
If there is like large battery on front of the washing machine WOOOOOW like that one just lift
Omg it has a direct drive motor!!!! Before LG used them!!!!!
Should have set off some car airbags inside as well. Maybe fill it with Jello or something.
hehehe i was so mutch lounching xDD
This is not what they mean by, "Please be kind. Rewind."
I think you voided the warranty on that VCR
yeah would spnin much higher at a better frequency, id like to see how one of them 3 phases direct drive motors would work on a VFD, seeing as they can give the higher frequencies needed to drive this motor. It will only spin so fast at 50/60hz. Think them motors are designed ffor at least 300-400hz maybe more.
@LoganT547
2 жыл бұрын
These BLDC motors run from pulsed DC in the washing machine controller, hence why it has the hall effect sensors
@umbrefawx
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoganT547 Not all of them, some of them are AC driven with an inverter. some used pulse dc, some use AC. I know at least 3 brands that do so. But regardless from old comment I know that idea doesn't work, vfds l run at lower frequencies then the inverters in the machines that drive the 3 phase ac/bldc motors.
@user-pj5ub2ey3v
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoganT547 You replied a comment created 7 years ago ? Wow
didn't think it'd run on 3 phase!!
@RODALCO2007
9 жыл бұрын
They are true 3 phase motors. you can get them to run faster with your VSDs
@douro20
9 жыл бұрын
RODALCO2007 Maybe it would be worth programming a drive to run this SR motor properly.
@RODALCO2007
9 жыл бұрын
douro20 Yes but I haven't got a spare drive. This WM was a road find.
@hyvahyva
9 жыл бұрын
RODALCO2007 Wye connect, as I recall?
@umbrefawx
9 жыл бұрын
hyvahyva I'm pretty sure they are wired in star but I can't recall, There was another smart drive dryer I took apart that was different then these F&P, that one was wound in Delta, I could be ass backwards on that though. Pretty sure the F&P's are WYE though.
it would have been more funny if you added power, and made it so fast that it destroyed itself.
Well, that's one way to clean a vcr!! The ? is, will it work! Lol!!!
I didn't even know that I would take that much. By the way This is a Fisher & Paykel Pride MW612
@LoganT547
4 жыл бұрын
No, it's newer than that
@liftrailphotographyinnz3992
4 жыл бұрын
@@LoganT547 It's a MW612 Phase 7. I know that for a fact.
@LoganT547
4 жыл бұрын
@@liftrailphotographyinnz3992 if you say so then. No need for the arrogance
@liftrailphotographyinnz3992
4 жыл бұрын
Logan T Sorry if I did sound arrogant.
Oh come on. I would expect the VCR to be at least playing a tape or something.
Why don’t you take the battery out when that drum is not turning that will get the drum to time if you take the battery out
i think it would be a good idea to hose it down wile its running lol =3-
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It Sounds Like A Drill
I suppose the moral of the story is don't put a VCR or Batteries in a washing machine ;)
wouldn't want to be your neighbors XD on second thought...I might but only if you let me watch XD
rip vcr
That's the same washer as mine
@aiswaryakrishnan5764
8 жыл бұрын
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hey! I know that sound...
@LoganT547
4 жыл бұрын
What sound
this washing machine gets destroyed by 3 phase
I thought those motors were BLDC type!
@douro20
9 жыл бұрын
They are.
@MrMacman98
9 жыл бұрын
douro20 how's he running it on AC?
@douro20
9 жыл бұрын
Mac Man They are called brushless DC because they are driven using a zero-crossing modified DC square wave. An AC waveform will drive them just as well, as the DC signal used to drive them actually mirrors the phase relationship of a 3-phase AC waveform.
@MrMacman98
9 жыл бұрын
douro20 ahh is that what it is! So its DC 3 phase that drives them. Thanks for telling me that, I never knew they worked that way!
@umbrefawx
9 жыл бұрын
Mac Man Dc brush less motors are typically AC or pulse DC themselves. They are called brush less DC motors because they require a DC input, the motor itself however is driving with circuitry and drive transistors and fets running on pulse DC or AC waveforms. So even through the motor is running off a DC supply, the motor itself is technically driving by artificial AC or DC pulses. (depending on the design of the motor. Bypass the electronics/ drive circuity and and you can run most Brushless DC motors like a 3 phase AC one directly at the windings. Which is whats being done here.
electromagnet motor pls don't destroy it give it to me
lame, do it like Mr. Photon, annihilate it :::D
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@WASHLOVER2006
5 жыл бұрын
Ты
@user-pj5ub2ey3v
2 жыл бұрын
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MEH!! Been done waaaay to often. Do something wild already!
@anracc5302
8 жыл бұрын
Fuck off and watch something else then
Boring
Why don’t you take the battery out when that drum is not turning that will get a drum to time if you take the battery out