...after 6 yrs nothing was done??? Disgusting!!!

@patmdoda9567

22 күн бұрын

I guess the VBS saga involves Ramaphosa not EFF as we're told. If it was EFF they would have already attacked them

We are tired of cover up.we want Transparancy😢😢😢😮😮

Use the resources to investigate the accused, rather than wasting our time and money in a witch hunt to find out who leaked the affidavit.

@soniadevos510

25 күн бұрын

The same strategy they used to investigate Andre De Ruyter, chasing him and looking for dirt instead of using the opportunity and money to fix Eskom.

Why should it be a secret?

Why so worried about the leaked affidavit? Were you planning cover up?

@1986aurora

26 күн бұрын

I think so

@judithvorster2515

26 күн бұрын

He explains very clearly why he's concerned: leaking the affadavit could compromise future investigations. It warns people that they are under investigation, giving them opportunity to destroy evidence etc.

@francoisbezuidenhout4638

25 күн бұрын

That is exactly what the npa has been doing because it was politically sensitive. Kudos to the person that leaked the affidavit!

@melanytodd2929

25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂. Of course.

@LeschLouw

24 күн бұрын

We're is police 😮😮😮

15 yrs.. he will be out on parole in 5 yrs... go back to his lavish lifestyle.. and the robbed victims will still be poor//

@ikgothule6463

25 күн бұрын

I'll health 😅

@noziphojakuja9898

25 күн бұрын

His assets must be forfeited to the state as they were bought with stolen money

They wanted to hide it. Now it's in the open and have to act on it.

@SonOfTheSoil834

22 күн бұрын

What purpose did it serve being in public 🤷🏾‍♂️

@TshepisoMagomane

21 күн бұрын

​@@SonOfTheSoil834tarnish tarnish 😅

@SonOfTheSoil834

20 күн бұрын

@@TshepisoMagomane obviously and one will be very dump to think it has achieved anything either than that even at the level of just “intention “

Whoever leaked the affidavit knew exactly what he/she doing knowing well that NPA will drag this case. Holding the person who leaked this affidavit will not make a difference the truth is out, so tell us how you are getting those implicated to face the law.

@lehlohonolomapitsi8607

21 күн бұрын

Bs, it is propaganda to tarnish eff. It is no coincidence this come exactly the same time eff was to bring phala phala matter and even do private persecution. Plus if u go to the iec national election work backwards to get totally number of registered votes u get 53mil people and this is still flying over people

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

20 күн бұрын

😂😂

@cheznone9296

18 күн бұрын

It seems the NPA drags its heels so that the guilty are able to keep delaying and delaying. Hlope delayed his case over and over again for years before he was actually impeached. Look at Makwebena tactics via Mpopho and all the sad stories we had to hear. This is a common catastrophe within the NPA and they need to tighten up the rules of court, and bring back the respect the law deserves. Unfortunately this is about much higher up bodies than Malema and his cohorts, it involves many people. They should be held on bracelets so that they can be tracked. Their bank accounts frozen and a new monitored account opened for their income and stock take of assets. A lot of money is going to disappear while the wait goes on.

If they pursued the actual crime like he’s pursuing the “leak” would’ve at least encouraged us to believe they are honest about crime

@murielhuis2871

25 күн бұрын

So true . They must put much effort on the crime that the person who leaked the affidavit

NPA takes decades to get any investigation done so it's right if the affidavit was leaked ..Don't worry about who ĺeaked the affidavit and get on in prosecution of the thieves who took to money..Get on with what you have to do..

@marieklaaste9699

24 күн бұрын

Npa must be investigated. They drag corrupt case for ever . Nothing come out of it. They no use for the puplic.

Mr Myanga people who are in the letter must go to jail please.

@wegap2012

25 күн бұрын

Properly investigated perhaps. And then sentenced.

@Bhulingwe

25 күн бұрын

You are also mentioned there😂. Foolishness at its best, you think a mere affidavit sends people to jail?

Why focused on finding the person who leaked instead of arresting everyone who was involved in that heist .

@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087

24 күн бұрын

Exactly

Npa must be disbanded its so cold doesnt fo its job salary for nothing it should have investigated tht vbs longtime ago

@Sillymawena

26 күн бұрын

Arrest the 9%,they have been punished and rejected by 91%😂😂

@marieklaaste9699

24 күн бұрын

All talks dont do

@marieklaaste9699

24 күн бұрын

6 yrs is enough time wasted

Utter nonsense, the public has a right to know.

@hallaback2010

26 күн бұрын

To know what? There is no case number for that affidavit yet!!

@thomasgosling5155

26 күн бұрын

@@hallaback2010 It’s called transparency.

@Sillymawena

26 күн бұрын

​@@hallaback2010you living in denial, we not fools

@hallaback2010

25 күн бұрын

@@thomasgosling5155 no. A leak is a criminal offence. This was not from the courts, but the NPA. There is a difference.

@hallaback2010

25 күн бұрын

@@Sillymawena you may not be, but you are uninformed. You should’ve listened. He said the matter will only go to a COURT OF LAW on 22nd July. Don’t use emotions.

It was leaked on purpose, maybe by the same NPA, now acting as they got no clue

@carolmakgalemela6940

26 күн бұрын

Yes

Another cover up

@penekedirero4636

26 күн бұрын

Do you still sell archaar?

@leonardmabunda69

25 күн бұрын

True

You are lying according to SA ...they say may ne you want to cover -up for these politicians ...you had 6 years yet no prosecution ...no compromise ...dont make dxcuses for your incompetience ...she is right

Does not make any sense what this gent is saying. For 7 yrs this same npa had time to sort out this matter are they looking for another 7yrs to do what? Really?????

@donaldchikudo1521

26 күн бұрын

He is making a lot of sense. They must lock those fools that leaked the affidavit. They are jeopardize the case

@carolmakgalemela6940

26 күн бұрын

Exactly

@phantasm963

25 күн бұрын

7years is ridiculous

@wegap2012

25 күн бұрын

@@carolmakgalemela6940 But not the fools who took the money to begin with? Where there is smoke there’s fire. 🔥

@mangatakgomo1984

22 күн бұрын

But the afidavid is not new to them and we are only hearing the date of 22 july thanx to the leak.

Isn't evidence submitted in a court case in the public domain ? Wasn't the affidavit part of the evidence ? I need some legal clarity here.

@wayneerasmus7108

26 күн бұрын

EFF FINANCIALS ARE ABOUT TO BECOME PUBLIC DOMAIN Especially after not disclosing a single cent in this last election, i can just imagine what they will find from reports of 5 years ago to time when the EFF more mouth than brain - they are smarter now, there are educated people on their brand management.

@twentyfifty2050

25 күн бұрын

Wrll, according to President Zuma vs Downer and Maughn, once submitted to the court, it is within public domain. No one must be prosecuted for that.

Six long, long, long Years 😢

The sad part of South african law is that cases take so long that sometimes the people who suffered the loss pass away before they can see justice being served. example Senzo's case, his father passed on heartbroken 💔 😢

You have a lot of info now. Start doing your work.

If you have done your (6 year) job - the "ventilation" will not stink.

what a load of crap honestly more of the same BS that we usually hear they say proper this and proper that but nothing is ever proper as South African leaders have forgotten what proper is.

Hawks is so currupt..they in bed with anc!

@Sillymawena

26 күн бұрын

AND THE EFF

@twentyfifty2050

25 күн бұрын

And the DA, GNU

@melanytodd2929

25 күн бұрын

​@@twentyfifty2050Yes❣️

@DruzaDithipe-xw2ht

24 күн бұрын

No ur wrong this things take long bcs u have to get ur bird inside ur net not here say or rumors

I understand that it could jeopardise cases but this is the best thing that could have happened. Now the public will demand accountability and thorough explanation if people are not convicted.

Gayton Mckenzie will expose them

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

20 күн бұрын

Your MacKenzie he's just big mouth without doing his work

Mr Tsotsi 😂😂😂

@maseratifittipaldi

26 күн бұрын

Mr Rama Tsotsi ?

5:23 He is talking rubbish and he knows it.

Question already asked but whilst leaking of documents not correct it should not overshadow the information contained in such documents and in this instance, it is extremely important that the claims are fully investigated and if found there is a case against Malema and Shivambu and EFF that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But clear that because Malema is apparently involved the NPA for unknown reasons stalling on it.

NPA AND HAWKS..long captured. For 7 years whats there to cover up🤨

@Bhulingwe

25 күн бұрын

Maybe the NPA is smarter than a lot of fools here, who think that an affidavit from a thief trying to get a lighter sentence is enough to be presented before a sober judge. He claims that he went to meet EFF leaders alone, no texts, no appointments and no bank records what a shame.

Uselles NPA u are talking abt the Leaked u are bizi searching for the Leaked person why dnt u Arrest Malema n Shivambo we need the Scorpion

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂There's no evidence against malema and shivambu mos and affidavit can't be used to prosecute others 😂😂

Shame on those in the ANC, EFF and MK to steal from the poor. They live in luxury and in the best suburbs!!!

@Bhulingwe

25 күн бұрын

VF+ and DA stay in informal settlement perhaps?

@silaskhalishwayo

24 күн бұрын

Tell us about steinhoff 😂

@andreblack8132

24 күн бұрын

@@Bhulingwe are you on drugs or something?

@andreblack8132

24 күн бұрын

@@silaskhalishwayo what do you know about them?

Min.Gayton Mckenzie must go and exposed these guys... cover ups.

these guys have been delayed for years in this matter.

Mthunzi forget about the lick arrest perpetrators

@lawrencenannes4260

25 күн бұрын

@@sifisodube4686 leak

Surely an affidavit in a plea agreement is a public record before the court. Whats the secret?

@twentyfifty2050

25 күн бұрын

Wrel, according to President Zuma vs Downer and Maughn, once submitted to the court, it is within public domain. No one must be prosecuted for that.

@zamokuhllukhele3713

23 күн бұрын

Agreed but not admissible against other parties that are not yet charged or have not yet have their cases commence. The audi alteram partem rule applies to everyone including EFF. No amount of hate or biases against them/ it can do away with that fundamental principle of our law.

It also has the potential to get the truth out into the public domain where often these things are swept under the table, over and over again.

NPA is like a sieve with no filters at all. No justification is enough to pacify what has happened. We live in a democracy. Media doing its work period. Assange syndrome will not work in SA. 3:44

We the public need to know what happens when with the money and the chotsies pay back the money 🤑

Crime. Arrest them. How dare a whistleblower tell the public what is going on. Revealing the truth is an unlawful act and must be criminalised. The cover up was at an advanced stage and now all that work was for nothing. Now fingers have been pointed and action will have to be taken.

I like the way your hand is walking on that table jumping at times but stable expose them Spiderman 🕷 🕸

So you cannot work a plan to hide the facts now that is your problem

NPA NEVER GOES SERIOUS WITH PROSECUTIONS. JUST LOOK AT THE WAY NPA IS NEGLETING THE HARD WORK DONE FOR THE CALLED ZONDO'S REPORT. HE SHOULD TELL US WHAT MEASURES WERE TAKEN. WHICH TEAM HAD THIS AFFIDAVITTY UNDER ITS POSSESSION. SIMPLY AS THAT.

What want transparency the NPA has been on this case for years and only one person has been sentenced what seems to be the hold up?

Afro forum please assist the poor and arrest malema and shivambu

@carolmakgalemela6940

26 күн бұрын

They are racist

@silaskhalishwayo

24 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂and let apartheid white people Scott free 😂😂who stole land and money

@ZolaMhlabane-ss8bq

22 күн бұрын

This all smells propaganda by the apartheid forces. The New apartheid is really alive and kicking.

@nonjikocyril4274

22 күн бұрын

😂😂😂So assisting the poor is to arrest Malema and Shivambu, they don't even have a right to state their case?

@davidmotshana4056

20 күн бұрын

jou moer 😊

Court Documents are public documents This spokesperson is wortied about trivial things

Will the whistleblowers be prorected ?

The case would just disappear if it wasn’t leaked. Strange how using an incorrect word immediately gets you fined and convicted. All South African citizens are clearly not equal under the law.

This one is a EFF member.

@phyllsmoyo

26 күн бұрын

Because he is going against the tide and mainstream media!!!

@kamps492

26 күн бұрын

Hahaha 🤣 I was thinking the same thing. EFF is a Cult anyway

@penekedirero4636

26 күн бұрын

Hiding behind your mother's skirt😂

@OscarMakgaka-el3ir

24 күн бұрын

U wish kwaaa nothing relax hater

@mbuyiseloshadrackmoss2719

24 күн бұрын

You're talking nonsense wena rubbish

Give it Gayton Mac kenzi

@Samzo-n1v

22 күн бұрын

You out of order wena sbhanxa

@lizzynthoroane1312

20 күн бұрын

What is that???

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

20 күн бұрын

Big mouth without doing his work

I thought that when an accused has pleaded guilty, the entirety of their guilty plea, (not a certain part of it) is read in record publicly so that the public knows what is it that they are pleading guilty to! Technically, what happened here is no leaking but a lawful act of making a guilty plea of a criminal public.

All this information should be public knowledge. We've known for a long time the named persons are guilty so come on we the public should know this info. We're not ignorant kids.

if the affidavit is leaked and nobody is arrested, the leaking has the blessing of NPA

@melanytodd2929

25 күн бұрын

Decades ago . .

Landani aba babini be EFF 😂😂😂😂

@Bhulingwe

25 күн бұрын

You will wait until you become pale and grey, EFF is not going anywhere, courts work with evidence not some leaks.

we love OUR PEOPLES AND FIGHT FOR THE POOR 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Where is the stolen money?

Alkes in SA korrupt 😮

No, what you say is not going down well, all citizens of SA should no whats going on. 😮

It is out in the open now and if those people don't get prosecuted then the people will be very upset!!!

This guy's demeanor fully reminds me of the personality of the late former president of Zimbabwe comrade ROBERT MUGABE!!!

We voted for criminals ,eix!

Why are the NPA so terrified of politicians?

It doesn't matter Who leaked the affidavit, justice must take it's course. Many victims have been left penniless.

It wasn't leaked, it was released for tar and feather 🪶

Next Parliamentary Portfolio committee you will be asked.

I have great respect for this seasoned spokesperson, that he could come and spew such gibberish. Vbs case is not a complex matter. You are making it difficult by delaying the prosecution of politicians

When was this affidavit made. Must have been when deal was made. So 5 year and nothing happened.

THE TRUTH WILL OUT. THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH: I WANT TRANPARENCE

What difference does it make that the affidavit was leaked? Facts are facts and cannot be changed.

leaked should make no difference, it just confirms what we have known all along.

This leak was deliberate to facilitate a stalingrand on this case. They will concentrate on who leaked the affidavit than politicians facing the might of the law.

And in Gauteng they want another looting platform, provincial government bank😅

Both the VBS and Phalaphala had donation's Tax implication and it was evaded. Remember that Income Taxpayers as you submit your tax returns next week.

That affidavit must be public information. . .we, the citizens, deserve to know what's happening in government. They are trying to hide their corruption

How was it leaked? And why?

@user-wu1de6bz3n

26 күн бұрын

Lack or not leak people need their money boy don't cover up anything

@user-wv2ti7ye1j

25 күн бұрын

Pay back nje

Thought the court record is a public document since matter is finalised

We need that information 😢

Mthunzi that's so well explained.

The handlers of the affidavit are incompetent, charge them for negligence! Incompetence smells bad!

"Let's allow the law to take its course".

Isn't that affidavit in the public domain once it has been submitted in a case?

Where there's smoke there's fire 🔥

Media more concerned about the leak instead of focussing on the people implicated 😮

Can some1 help me understand here,what is 419 yrs for if matodzi will only serve 15 yrs .im totally confused here

@Bhulingwe

25 күн бұрын

He offered to name make an affidavit which implicates more people to get his sentence reduced😂

The NPA has been quite all this years and im afraid that if this afidavid is all they have, our time will just be wasted. I have zero faith on this organization, they must just be disbanded.

What about Senzo Meyiwa's case why are they not helping Meyiwa family

Haha, they leaked it diliberately so that Malema does not go to jail

NPA wanted to dispose of the case, and the person who leaked the affidavit did well. Victims were shocked when 400 years reduced to 15 years

Mtunnzi was found guilty. Its in the public domain. Why could his affadavit not be published 😢😢😢😢

Mr Mhaga you are talking kaka.What is sad is the fact that the NPA constantly fumbles and drops the ball when ever some famous politician has to face the music.. We South Africans are simply tired of your bull sh%&#. NPA do your job that is what you get paid for and stop being puppets on a string.

Nonsense u failed to arrest ramaphosa on phala phala saga and Glencoe

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

20 күн бұрын

Indeed and even steinhof

Plea bargain was not neccessary on this matter when the info was covered on the corruption that occured there.

The NPA will never touch Pauli van wyk as she is the one who leaked the so called VBS saga

Dig deeper into the EFF Julius and Shivambu with VBS Bank! Julius must not be protected!

@davidmotshana4056

20 күн бұрын

fotsek

Protecting criminals?

let's also not forget the covid money billions😢😢

Corruption .. NPA is afraid

According to President Zuma vs Downer and Maughn, once submitted to the court, it is within public domain. No one must be prosecuted for that. So stop saying you'll go for the one who leaked this affidavit

These fools protect each other. They don't have the poor people interest. Under these fools black people will keep on suffering. NPA is a joke. They protect their brother's. Those poor people not going to get justice.