Vaush is one of those people who if he told me the sky was blue, I'd have to go and double check.

@elKarlo

2 ай бұрын

He would also say that the sky being blue is some reason that children can consent. Dude is a creep

@violetblythe6912

2 ай бұрын

@@elKarlo “I thought she was a goblin, officer”

@highstrangeness1824

2 ай бұрын

"Well, in dog years they would be of age....." these debates are fruitless as well imho. Certain things shouldn't be discussed openly because children are online.

@anonymous3637

2 ай бұрын

The whole media is like that

@ellamiller2289

2 ай бұрын

Actually he's the type guy who would argue the sky isn't blue, we are talking about the guy who argued Water isnt H2O in Mexico

Remember when they gaslit us by telling us this wasn't happening?

@MauricioLSB

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. I got one of those like 3 minutes ago in twitter

@HodgePodgeVids1

2 ай бұрын

Proved that slipper slope was not a fallacy

@dumbox1899

2 ай бұрын

Lol true

@sameash3153

2 ай бұрын

@HodgePodgeVids1 Yes, it is a fallacy. But the fallacies only apply when making arguments against a specific proposition. It is fallacious because under the constraints of the argument there is nothing that supports the conclusion. That doesnt mean there's nothing inherently wrong about thinking "x will lead to y" or arguing it against a general proposition. You can do that all day. People don't understand what the fallacies actually are or what they are meant to accomplish by pointing them out.

@TalkingTorah613

2 ай бұрын

@@sameash3153saying all things are slippery slopes or nothing is a slippery slope is itself a fallacy. Somethings do lead to worse things and somethings dont🤷‍♂️ Maybe weed is a gateway to harder drugs, probably caffeine isn't. Go figure.

We went from "boys can play with dolls too!" to "if your boy plays with dolls he's actually a girl"

@Eliza-rg4vw

2 ай бұрын

If you think this is how trans people think, please stop getting your news from Trent, Fox News, or the daily wire. I've friends who jokingly use racial slurs, and they dont think like this either. This line of thinking is exaggerated to make trans people look bad when it isnt even something we think.

@alexanderkaufman3575

2 ай бұрын

But you cannot make that argument against trans people. They will just give you "that is just an outdated stereotype" BS. Gender ideology (which I believe they even dispute it being an ideology) does not even rely on lies, but ideological fascism/tyranny. You literally cannot debate transgender people because they just dismiss, silence as transphobic, or pretend that it actually affirms their view anything that would destroy their viewpoint. I am convinced that you cannot be a transgender advocate and act rationally. Keep in mind I am someone who really does not like calling an idea "irrational" I think that almost every idea has at least SOME support even if it is weak. For transgenderism, I do not believe that there is even weak support for.

@whisperedflame6952

2 ай бұрын

I know right. I mean come on, when I was a boy I played with Kens and Barbies at my grandmothers alongside my Bionicles and Transformers because I imagined them fighting each other to destroy a planet with humans as large as them. Guess I was Non-Binary or still am and don't even know it.

@m.2891

2 ай бұрын

Damnn

@TalkingTorah613

2 ай бұрын

Yep. That's the main absurdity about it all.

This isn’t even just a religious issue. It’s anti-science and anti-reality.

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

Science is a religion nowadays

@newglof9558

2 ай бұрын

@@n4ughty_knight eh no it's not. Religion is very much a good thing and we should not reinforce our enemy's framing by insisting it's bad and pushing it onto them. Science is not a religion. Science cannot be a religion. Science is incomplete.

@barnaclejones822

2 ай бұрын

This is literally exclusively a religious issue. This is anti-God.

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

No, actually it isn’t anti science at all

@mattbernacki9282

2 ай бұрын

​@@SenorCinemais it fun to just reply randomly to other comments without actually backing up your claims at all? Genuine question, I see you everywhere in Trents video and it's all the same.

Vaush is one of those people who really, really challenge me in the "love your enemies" department.

@kenu995

2 ай бұрын

1,000%

@thejigisup326

2 ай бұрын

You know you're given over to a reprobate mind when your defense is "Eegads! I have been hoodwinked! Why, this isn't my preferable thick short stack goblin porn! How did this dross come to be in my tabs?"

@alisterrebelo9013

2 ай бұрын

I have to remind myself that what I am being asked to love is what is created by God which is hidden by a multitude of layers of evil choices. The disfigurement caused by years of evil living can cause us to struggle to see that something divine-like resides at the core of the person.

@user-jy6hd9uw8h

2 ай бұрын

​@@alisterrebelo9013 🎉 Beautifully phrased.

@NMemone

2 ай бұрын

​@@alisterrebelo9013Beautifully stated! Whenever I encounter someone I don't like I imagine them as a young child, and immediately empathize with the innocence and hope that they possessed at that time. It leads me to the same conclusion as your wonderful thought experiment.

“It wasn’t child porn…also I haven’t heard a good legal argument for why possession of child porn should be illegal.” 😬😬😬 I audibly gasped at this. That’s insane.

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

Vaush was referring to cartoons or ai that doesn’t involve real victims.

@NicoleJade

2 ай бұрын

@@SenorCinema his very next sentence was “ACTUAL child porn”. Perhaps he clarified later in that video? I would hope so. Granted, I don’t care if it’s animated or not-producing and distributing imagery of children in a sexual manner, even if drawn, is still disgusting and feeds into a predatory world view that children are for consumption. Child porn made with actual children is worse, due to the victims involved, but that doesn’t mean drawn/animated child porn is blameless.

@tylere.8436

2 ай бұрын

And that clarification matters HOW? Cp is cp. Even if it didn't involve actual c, it shouldn't be permitted as it could lead to actual rpe of a c. There is no other purpose to it, viewing or possession. Get your moral compass checked out, as it isn't merely a Christian view - doesn't take a Christian to find it evil or inhumane.

@NicoleJade

2 ай бұрын

@@tylere.8436I totally agree. I think it’s despicable all the way around. It’s just particularly egregious to say “having material that depicts horrible brutalization of children should be legal”, even in the most secular circles.

@user-sc1lz4zs3n

2 ай бұрын

@@SenorCinema You do realize AI uses prior images in its training data to make its pictures right? It would still be extremely immoral to have AI do it. Instead of advocating for harm to befall a child he could simply say we should lock up active pedophiles and try to help those who struggle with the mental illness.

Seeing Vaush in a Counsel of Trent video is absolutely wild. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone right now

@bluecat4802

2 ай бұрын

That was exactly me when I saw the video. Never thought I would see the day.

@newt4050

2 ай бұрын

Same here

I was NOT mentally prepared to hear “lolicon” dropped in a Trent Horn episode

@lesanon919

2 ай бұрын

It's kinda hilarious. To normal people, the difference between loli and short stacks don't matter. To people even remotely familiar with the topic they would be able to immediately tell the difference between the two and know that trying to conflate them like he did is nothing more than obfuscation of the highest order. Probably one of the funniest things I've seen this year so far.

@messiahofthefunny8453

2 ай бұрын

Well it was inevitable considering we’re talking about Vaush; the folder of loli-horse p*rn really does precede him.

@ExtraVictory

2 ай бұрын

As someone born in Japan, ive been seeing that and much worse since i was 8 lmao. Of course its fiction so I use "worse" mainly because i know that's what you believe

@zunir0a

2 ай бұрын

@@lesanon919 There’s a difference even to normal people. Their bodies are only similar via height. You take a simple glance and you’d realize either “oh that’s just a short yet well-endowed woman” or *“oh. that’s a child.”* Vaush was just forcing out an excuse trying to cover himself and failed spectacularly.

@zunir0a

2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraVictory My condolences. I know precisely what you’re talking about. There is a TON of vile stuff in H-doujin culture. I don’t care if it’s “not real,” it’s still abhorrent that such grotesque filth is legal and distributed. It makes Marquis de Sade look tame by comparison.

One thing’s for certain. Do not let Vaush near your children.

@messiahofthefunny8453

2 ай бұрын

Or a horse stable.

@haramsaddam238

2 ай бұрын

The folder thankfully ruined what little chances of gaining public relevancy he had

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

Or any Catholic

@benetgamingchanel4055

2 ай бұрын

This is such a discriminatory sentence.​@@SenorCinema

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

@@benetgamingchanel4055 cry about it

I am so glad I was born in the 1970's. I didn't like dolls, dresses, my only siblings were 4 brothers, I liked to dig in the mud, catch lizards and worms, and I had no clue how to interact with other little girls, girly girls. I can't even imagine if adults started telling me I was actually a boy...

@christenh359

2 ай бұрын

I was born a decade later and I still feel the same. I didn’t like pink or dresses… but I was just a tomboy. What happened to all the tomboys?

@susand3668

2 ай бұрын

Same here! What a world, what a world!

@fearlesswee5036

2 ай бұрын

The greatest casualty of the transgender insanity bug was the noble tomboy.

@Waldemarvonanhalt

2 ай бұрын

TFW they're making tomboys extinct. :(

@AussieCatholic

2 ай бұрын

Sorry to tell you.... but to most lawmakers in the West right now you're probably a boy 😆. The world's gone mad.

Trent and Father Mike should 100% start another podcast together

@kinghoodofmousekind2906

2 ай бұрын

I would like to see them together! Both helped me a lot in appreciating my faith more (cradle Catholic, became lukewarm in high-school, and now striving to be a better believer and child).

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

I want Trent + Father Mike vs Taylor Marshall. Trent and Mike are good but they're too soft.

@CatholicGunGuy

2 ай бұрын

@@n4ughty_knight I wouldn’t say they’re soft., they make their arguments easier to approach rather than fire and brimstone.

@highroller-jq3ix

2 ай бұрын

What if it was just like 96.85567%?

@CatholicGunGuy

2 ай бұрын

@@highroller-jq3ix nah. 100% only

They first say that gender roles are social constructions, then that you can tell if someone is "trans" by using the same "constructed" social roles. Total insanity.

@MauricioLSB

2 ай бұрын

Masked sexism basically

@joaogustavomotabarbosa5521

2 ай бұрын

What heggelianism does tô a mf

@Yipper64

2 ай бұрын

And of course being trans is innate. Its double think, that's the only way the concept even stands. Some people do take full on one position or the other, but of course that means you can have a discussion about it. With both of these contradictory positions being true, there is no way to actually discuss it.

@highroller-jq3ix

2 ай бұрын

"They?" You seem totally insane. Are you totally insane?

@highroller-jq3ix

2 ай бұрын

@@MauricioLSB Exactly. Misogyny should be overt and blatant, the way Catholics do it! Good call.

Vuash is NOT a good faith debating partner. Ps see his debate with Tomas Bogardus. On that note, see Bogardus dialogue with Destiny abd his appearance on Philosophy for the People with host Patrick Flynn (author of brand new 9/10 book on Philosophy of religion titled "The Best Argument for God")

@michaels7325

2 ай бұрын

He is basically the poster model for living in the flesh. There are some who should not be entertained for debate and he is definitely one of them for sure.

@benecliptus

2 ай бұрын

Vaush is not a good anything.

@thunderstruck6647

2 ай бұрын

He literally admitted to be willing to lie for the sake of "winning". There is also his famous CP and computer/iphone argument that to this day he still says was "out of context". I don't know why he still has an audience after the Loli Horse images and his excuse being "I thought it was a short-stacked goblin".

@withremnanthearts

2 ай бұрын

If you plan on debating Vaush, you better have citations for all your points handy.

@highroller-jq3ix

2 ай бұрын

@@michaels7325 Can you show an example of living out of the flesh and explain how that is relevant to forensic rhetoric?

calling Father Mike "Mister Priest Man" is so rude. i imagine Fr. Mike just laughing though.

@calebadcock363

2 ай бұрын

Fr. Mike probably would find that funny

@alfonsuskristo1624

2 ай бұрын

Superhero name. Cool.

@Myke_thehuman

2 ай бұрын

Hey you guys deliberately disrespect us, so why would we respect you?

@perropolicia1655

2 ай бұрын

​@@Myke_thehuman So if you dislike the way someone treats another person, your answer is to do the exact same thing?

@Patriarch.Chadimus

2 ай бұрын

It's unsurprising he has no respect for God. Vaush gets his rocks off to more than unacceptable art of children (loli) and has a fetish for horses.

This is just one of the many reasons why my wife and i chose homeschooling.....

@MauricioLSB

2 ай бұрын

Choose* And yeah its necessary

@terrorists-are-among-us

2 ай бұрын

Put the kid in sports and other classes they will need socialization.

@FDMD_

2 ай бұрын

@@MauricioLSBNo, chose (past tense) is correct. Also was this a necessary comment?

@voltekthecyborg7898

2 ай бұрын

My parents pulled me out before I started 5th grade, because of Common Core. They DID NOT foresee this crap

@vincenzoaiello7998

2 ай бұрын

@@MauricioLSB *it's 🙄

Thanks for this video, it was really bothering me that someone would chose to attack someone like Father Mike, who is nothing but respectful and charitable.

@highstrangeness1824

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@professorvannostrand1523

2 ай бұрын

@@highstrangeness1824 Vaush is a literal commie, he despises all things Christian, probably likes muslims for now...

@user-ow9zi8uc8g

2 ай бұрын

Father Mike is an important person in my life. I was still an Atheistic-Agnostic until God used Father Mike as an instrument for me to come back to the church.

@Iustusxi

2 ай бұрын

@@user-ow9zi8uc8g beautiful.

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

If you read the comments on his channel, Father Mike is always suffering attacks. The last time I've read them, they were saying Mike was too perfect and that was weird. So, they're doing it out of spite.

The message is literally about not loving yourself for who you actually are. It’s frustrating that they claim that a dog acting like a not-dog is just “being himself.”

@highstrangeness1824

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Thank you for pointing out the obvious reason the debate shouldn't even be an issue. We have gotten wise in our own eyes, so we often miss what is right in front of us; the basics. Going back to that beginning comment negates the entire debate. By pointing that out, the "argument" should stop right there. The rest of these arguments about biology and the philosophy of it miss the main point of hypocrisy. They want tolerance and for us to believe their lie, yet they cannot accept us for simply speaking truth. All of these big youtubers are celebrities thry know what they're doing. They all want a holy war.

@terrorists-are-among-us

2 ай бұрын

No one actually cares what anyone pretends to be it's the fact that the law is forcing everyone to pretend. Only a few years ago these guys would take their fetish to a prostitute to roleplay, now you'll get fired if you don't 🤮

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

I think it's more complex than that. This is essentially a conflict of objective and subjective. Objectively, someone is A. Subjectively, someone is B. For example, if someone is ugly, they are objectively "ugly" when compared to what is the aesthetic norm but subjectively that person is never going to accept they are "ugly" because it's a "bad word". So, in essence, people want to be loved but at the same time that "love" comes from others.

@davidiancrux

2 ай бұрын

❌ Doubt

@fearlesswee5036

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, "being yourself" means accepting what you are, not pretending to be something that your genes, physical characteristics, hormones, bone structure/density, muscle mass, and brain chemistry say you most certainly are NOT. It's *denying* being yourself. There's nothing wrong with being a female with masculine interests, nor a male with feminine interests. It's when you think somebody needs to be "re-educated" to delude themselves into thinking they're actually the opposite gender, and convince them to irreversibly mutilate and chemically castrate themselves, *major* problems arise.

Anyone using the term "cis" can be ignored.

@PauperPeccator

2 ай бұрын

SHOULD be ignored

@mcfarvo

2 ай бұрын

Remember when we would only hear "cis-" used properly in organic chemistry courses?

@tylere.8436

2 ай бұрын

can and must be!

@LawsickPi

2 ай бұрын

I remember when "cis" meant e^(ix) = cos x + i sin x.

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

anyone that believes in resurrection myths and demons and miracles should be ignored

Vaush trying to debunk Father Mike is legit the most "evil cannot comprehend good" thing I've ever seen.

@Fang1241

2 ай бұрын

How many children has Father Mike molested

@Fang1241

2 ай бұрын

And even if he has a molested any how many pedo priests has he helped

The trans Muppet video seems like a parody.

@MrPeach1

2 ай бұрын

I know and a dog thinking he is a cat highlights the absurdity. I really don't think videos like this help their propaganda. Unless its to make everyone realize it is a joke.

@derniercaesar5319

2 ай бұрын

​@@MrPeach1 They are self aware even if is subconscious

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

@@MrPeach1 It helps them because they're testing society. If someone criticizes their propaganda, they silence that opposing voice and in turn, that attracts more people who want that power as well.

@igorlopes7589

2 ай бұрын

They are a parody of themselves

We love Fr Mike Schmitz

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

I dont

@hunivan7672

2 ай бұрын

God bless that man. He does so much good work. May God bless him.

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

@@hunivan7672 god is evil

@leumas_razalas4427

2 ай бұрын

W profile picture and Fr. Mike Schmitz is the GOAT

@sirrobertwalpole1754

2 ай бұрын

W comment

“When and how did you discover this inner wolfness” the stoic delivery of this line absolutely killed me 😂😂

@youtubeKathy

2 ай бұрын

that was his demeanor throughout the film. 😄

@TheCounselofTrent

2 ай бұрын

hahah, I don't know how he does it. -Vanessa

Licking isn't a cat thing. Dogs lick too.

@tomthx5804

2 ай бұрын

I can see you got the point.

@madsocsci

2 ай бұрын

And perverts. 😉

@litigioussociety4249

2 ай бұрын

They don't lick their paws, and wipe their face. That's a cat thing. That's like saying in reference to a human sniffing someone's behind that sniffing isn't a dog thing.

@wordforever117

2 ай бұрын

@@litigioussociety4249 Apparently it's a dog thing now too.

@sabarjp

2 ай бұрын

@@litigioussociety4249 Some do, especially if they grow up with cats around them. Dogs don't have rational immortal souls though and they are not made in God's image, so it doesn't really matter anyways. Humans are held to higher standards.

Isn't vaush the same guy who promotes/got caught looking at CP??

@carlosbalazs2492

2 ай бұрын

Yep, that is him.

@balljoint5853

2 ай бұрын

That is correct commander

@aglassofmilk5802

2 ай бұрын

Yea and horses too

@Dram1984

2 ай бұрын

Yep.

@coonplatoon

2 ай бұрын

@@aglassofmilk5802horses? You know what I don’t want to know

Vaush needs his hard drive searched

@tylere.8436

2 ай бұрын

his folder got divulged

He chose Father Mike of all people, such a nice and kindhearted priest to badmouth like that. Wouldn’t expect less from Vaush, he even felt like he was in the place to laugh at the overused and boring joke of pedo priests as if he wasn’t more likely to be a pedophile.

@Meyer-gp7nq

2 ай бұрын

He’s not a pedo, he’s a horsephile. And probably a pedo as well

@wyssmaster

2 ай бұрын

Projection. Vaush knows that he needs to go on the offensive, throwing out accusations to diminish the perceived legitimacy of accusations thrown at him. "Oh, they're just calling him a pedo because he called this guy one"

@bunnyqueen20XX

Ай бұрын

I mean, if I was in a group, and I found out they were hiding convicted pedophiles, i'd get out of that group asap cause holy shit what the fuck You can't even deny that fact that it happens cause it happens *so often* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases Other religions similar to the catholics exist, that don't have pedophiles being run around the country, try looking into them and being apart of them instead.

They have completely thrown out objective truth. What I would like to ask these social justice warriors is if my daughter has anorexia and even though she’s only 120lbs, she THINKS she is 320lbs and grossly obese, should I help her get liposuction and gastric bypass surgery? We don’t reinforce someone’s body dysphoria, we help them get treatment.

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

I think the origin of all this mess is that people don't care for one another anymore. For example, if someone has anorexia, instead of actually helping them, people tend to judge and isolate that person which ends up reinforcing their behavior because it becomes "me vs them". This is clearly a product of how selfish our society has become. Why do you think everyone is talking about "acceptance"? It's because nobody actually cares for one another.

@edukaeshn

2 ай бұрын

You cannot have honest discourse with those who are not interested in truth.

@blaiseaimee7098

2 ай бұрын

Very good analogy. Keeping this one in my back pocket.....

@ToxicAudri

2 ай бұрын

"if my daughter has anorexia and even though she’s only 120lbs, she THINKS she is 320lbs and grossly obese, should I help her get liposuction and gastric bypass surgery?" No. you're conflating something that can cause the death of a person due to a process called STARVATION vs ALLOWING someone to live their life in a way that makes them happy and doesn't harm others or themselves. You can personally see it as harming themselves, but generally that's your opinion based on the fact you don't feel conflict over a discrepancy in your sex and gender.

@FireheadLazzo

2 ай бұрын

@@blaiseaimee7098 You really shouldn't because this is not a good analogy. Anorexia involves a form of body dysmorphia, which is when you perceive your physical body as something other than it is. For example, anorexic people see fat where none exists and it causes them distress. Trans people are talking about body dysphoria, which is when your internal identity does not match with what you see in the mirror. This is something that non-trans people also experience. When you look in the mirror and see a belly and it makes you feel uncomfortable, that's a mild form of body dysphoria. Trans people who experience body dysphoria often feel this discomfort for every aspect of their body. tl;dr This is not a good analogy because an anorexic person sees fat in the mirror where there isn't any. A trans person does not look in the mirror and see a penis where there isn't one. The two are not analogous.

As a kid, I played with boys toys, loved to dress like a boy and would try to pee standing up. I'm now a heterosexual mother of 3 who is happily married to a wonderful man. I'm so glad I was born in the 80s!

@angeliasantana2099

2 ай бұрын

Same except the 90's 😉

@igorlopes7589

2 ай бұрын

You should thank God everyday you weren't born in this age...

@fearlesswee5036

2 ай бұрын

The death of the tomboy is perhaps the greatest causality of the transgender insanity :(

"Why do you people care so much?" Truth is worth pursuing for its own sake. It doesn't have to affect a person personally.

@edukaeshn

2 ай бұрын

That question is simply gaslighting. It's like someone beating their child saying "mind your own business".

@fearlesswee5036

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the good ol' "appeal to triviality" fallacy. "A logical fallacy where someone involved in an argument says the issue being argued over "Doesn't matter" or asking "Why do you care so much?", both in an attempt to shame their opponent into giving up so they can push their agenda unopposed. Easily countered by telling them to shut up and go away if it really doesn't matter, or pointing out their hypocrisy in their continued defense of the issue despite insistently asserting it supposedly doesn't matter."

@newglof9558

2 ай бұрын

Libertarianism is preached to the enemy. Drill this into your mind when dealing with these people, and preach it back to them.

@NMemone

2 ай бұрын

Why is it so important to them that we play along?

If anyone wants to watch this dude get completely owned on this subject, go watch his debate against Dr Tomas Bogardus (a Catholic philosophy professor)

@zzc8505

2 ай бұрын

Link?

I can't believe Trent Horn actually said "lolicon"...

@stickmaneanims4422

2 ай бұрын

You know the saying “things in the dark will come to the light”, it’s pretty fitting. They can’t hide under a username forever you know.

@t.j.armendariz354

2 ай бұрын

I just have to wonder how many takes it took him to not start laughing at the absurdity

@Mattt5

2 ай бұрын

@@t.j.armendariz354its ridiculous to us, but there's nothing funny about it. Its horrific really, so he wouldn't have laughed

@t.j.armendariz354

2 ай бұрын

@@Mattt5 I mean it is horrific but also it’s objectively absurd to a degree of humor because of how insane and hypocritical it is

I feel bad Trent has to dig up the Vaush clip on "short stack goblins"

@rouxmain934

2 ай бұрын

Wait until he finds out : - why Vaush wishes he was a horse - him talking on Discord about his gecko biting his willy - etc

@joaogustavomotabarbosa5521

2 ай бұрын

Trent Horn found Braindead after having tô do research on degenerate perverter stuff tô bash breadruber for Being a pervert, may God rest Trents soul

@t.j.armendariz354

2 ай бұрын

@@rouxmain934I think we can discredit him as a bleeding heart liberal who is the embodiment of everything wrong with this world right now

"Accepting people for who they are" is a rhetorical trap. These people "who accept who they are" are in reality rejecting who they are.

I guess "goblins just happen to look like kids" is the new "um, akshully, she's 9000 years old"

@stalinjosefstalin480

2 ай бұрын

The only reason I disagree is that I’m not convinced those guys are pedos. Vaush is actually 100% attracted to children.

I used to roll my eyes when people would say “we are confusing kids.” But kids are very malleable and they look towards adults to help them make sense of the world. This is bizarre. Feelings are a terrible standard for truth.

@terrorists-are-among-us

2 ай бұрын

It's a power trip to them. "use this name and pronoun" 🤡

@peace-and-quiet

2 ай бұрын

Not terrible. TRAGIC.

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

Kinda. People tend to overlook the role peers can have on behavior.

@Eliza-rg4vw

2 ай бұрын

"feelings are a terrible standard for truth" Moral argument down, all the rest to go

@newglof9558

2 ай бұрын

@@Eliza-rg4vw maybe in your mind, where morality and feefees are one and the same, but nope, try again sweaty

Vaush's chat full of disrespectful comments towards Fr. Mike "Priest be thinking about little boys" Pure and disgusting projection from those idiots

@rmtsapphire0

2 ай бұрын

Not based at all on the real world scandals committed by and still continued today by the catholic Church?

I'm a Sexual Risk Avoidance Educator in Georgia... please pray for us and our young friends to overcome these major distortions of truth 🙏 We actually live right down the road from Bramlett Elementary... It's a guarantee that we won't be sending our kiddos to public school now.

@petera7745

2 ай бұрын

Im just 20 mins from this school shocked this came from Barrow county schools its pretty conservative over there.

@RangerGrant

2 ай бұрын

@@petera7745 for real! My speculation is that teacher or admin who approved showing this is bought into the LGBT message, and tried to sneak it by unbeknownst to parents. Not today!

It's incredible that Vaush still has any viewers at all!!

"In March 2019, several direct messages were leaked in which Vaush (previously known as IrishLaddie) was acting creepily towards members of Destiny's Discord server, such as sending sexually explicit pictures to people after they asked him not to. Before logs were leaked of the event and discussed by Destiny, he considered confronting one of the victims, as shown in a photo of his Discord. And his accusers claim that he considered doxxing them."

@fearlesswee5036

2 ай бұрын

Average "I don't need God to be moral" behavior.

@eddardgreybeard

2 ай бұрын

​@@fearlesswee5036 Well, after that, morality becomes a difference of opinion rather than an objective standard.

@ToxicAudri

2 ай бұрын

By this logic you should abandon being religious entirely with the amount of sex scandal's priests have been caught in, too many kiddy fiddlers in the church. Hate the guy all you want, but he makes some decent arguments, unlike the sorry attempt to conflate someone identifying with a gender to a kid identifying as a fictional superhero with inhuman powers. Or the absolute absurdity of the argument that social norms are based in biological reality. Because apparently the color pink is a biological reality for girls... somehow. Yeah... it made ZERO sense.

Actually wild seeing the “goblin short stack clip” in a Trent Horn video today💀. It’s unfortunate it happened but it’s great seeing you fight off the evils of today

@TheCounselofTrent

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for watching!!! -Vanessa

2:00 The definition of normal is literally statistically common. Thats why they’re normal.

@Oera-B

2 ай бұрын

Commoness is one definition of normality, yes, but normality does not limit itself to commoness. Many things may become common with enough environmental pressure, and thus be normal in that sense, but be unnatural and thus not normal in another sense.

@renaissanceman419

2 ай бұрын

No, to be normal is to tend towards the purpose of a thing. Divorce is statistically common, but it is not normal, because by definition marriage is a lifelong union.

@CMVBrielman

2 ай бұрын

@@renaissanceman419 When your sample size is large enough, divorce is not statistically common.

@makeawkwardcomments

2 ай бұрын

If you think about the field of medicine there are lots of things that are normal but uncommon - for example having red hair. Normal isn't the same as common.

@misterkittyandfriends1441

2 ай бұрын

Moral relativism is hard at work in the dog video. The weird dog needs to be accepted because the weird dog likes his weirdness. The fact that the weird dog believes that he prefers that weirdness for himself is the only moral foundation of why it is good for him to be weird. If the weird dog did not want to be weird, it would likely be seen as a problem, either to help the dog stop being weird or to help the dog want to be weird. The fact that he is acting out of accord with reality and causing discord within himself and confusion among others to their detriment is apparently irrelevant. The fact that his desire and preference is changeable seems to mean that his desire cannot be a real moral foundation, or that his identity is a costume he puts on and not a real thing.

The fact that Trent went to find Vaush’s previous comments and expose him on this channel is pure gold.

This is all so sad, what happened to doctors taking an oath of do no harm :(

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. May God have mercy and grace on us in these times.

"Claims are not evidence unless a five years old says they are the opposite sex"

@Grandlett

2 ай бұрын

Matt Dillahunty eternally BTFO

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

sex and gender aren't the same thing. gender is a social construct. I can learn of someone's gender the same way I can learn of someone's political affiliation, by asking them

@EmberBright2077

2 ай бұрын

​@@SenorCinema Can you provide any evidence for this distinction?

@DC-zz7fm

2 ай бұрын

@SenorCinema Gender, as differences in behavior between males and females, is not a social construct since it is conditioned mostly by biology and evolutionary psychology. Virtually all society in history, and surely all the major ones, had it. But even if it was a social construct, so what? Law, school, police, democracy, language, those are all social construct, are you going to reject them just because of that?

@zzc8505

2 ай бұрын

@SeniorCinema Gender is a linguistic term, sex - to describe biological differences between male and female. That’s it

"Not normal. Just more common" That's what normal is though! Normal is what is most common!

@milagroscapomasi8525

2 ай бұрын

Mm normal could also mean "how things should be", respecting the nature of the thing, what they were created to be

Yup can't wait for Christ coming.

@MauricioLSB

2 ай бұрын

Welp the anti-Christ is already doing its duty.

@admiralvibe

2 ай бұрын

We should be as focused on converting and helping people like Vaush as we are awaiting the second coming.

@susand3668

2 ай бұрын

@@admiralvibe yup, both / and!

@KardasheviteUltravisionary

2 ай бұрын

@@admiralvibeListen, as someone who used to watch Vaush before coming back to the Light of Christ; I doubt it’ll work. He’s the perfect example of a person with a “Hardened Heart.” He’s lived by his flesh for so long that he’s grown accustomed to the flesh. The only thing that can bring him out of his flesh is God’s Holy Spirit; so perhaps prayer is our only option. It’s disappointing that we can’t save everyone; which is why we must ask God to bring him into His Light.

@felixstone3.14

2 ай бұрын

"These people think they're animals!" "CHRIST IS COMING!!!" 😂

Only Vaush would go after Fr. Mike. What a clown.

@kathleenbollinger5990

2 ай бұрын

And apparently he thinks Fr. Mike was never a 12-year-old boy🙄

I wasn't ready for 2:44

I would recommend not "debating" Vaush. He is legitimately one of the most aggravating people to talk to that I've ever seen. Absolutely no values or ideals beyond "winning" a debate, to the point that he'll make asinine statements like "H2O isn't water in Mexico, it's Aqua". His "defense" of his Lolicon pornography collection is just an example of his dishonest tactics.

I love how people like Vaush make videos to explain to us idiots how we've been mistaken for thousands of years.

@rmtsapphire0

2 ай бұрын

Uhhh yeah? Millions of things believed for thousands of years have been overturned by new evidence. The earth being round, orbiting the sun, etc etc etc. We are always continuing to increase our knowledge of the world and ourselves. The older a belief is, the less likely it's true as we improve our methods of determining truth.

@FireheadLazzo

2 ай бұрын

Things don't become true just because you believe them for a long time.

Bruh how can they bring man’s best friend into this. Dogs have been dogs,for all history . Now they’re in the dcbtq+ spectrum.smh

@flightless8903

2 ай бұрын

🤣

The important thing they missed is that, that dog can enjoy doing things cat do without being a cat. Women can enjoy men stuff and vice versa without actually being the opposite genders. Enjoying different hobbies is okay.

In my home country, in response to the Cass report in the UK, every single mainstream media outlet published the same article from a mother who has one supposedly trans kid and one supposedly non-binary kid (what are the odds?!) arguing against the report. The trans identifying boy was put on puberty blockers at 10, then estrogen at 14. The article admits that concerns about future fertility were raised before the estrogen, but that the boy chose to go ahead, as if a kid between 10 and 14 could possibly make such a decision. Every MSM outlet published this same article.

@Danboy0001

2 ай бұрын

This is from New Zealand. The same article describes how the mother actively "affirmed" the boy (as a girl) from the age of 8 years old! And apparently the rate of prescribing puberty blockers to kids in NZ is "more than 10 times" the rate in England!

I'm sure that if there was a muppet video like that when I was growing up in the early 2000s, the adults would be reminding the dog that it can pretend to be a cat, but that's just pretend, not for real.

I miss the days when we could recognize weird things as being weird.

The horse lover smearing an impeccable priest, color me surprised.

Isn’t Vaush the guy who says child porn is fine?

Never wanted this cross over to happen. I won't complain tho.

Bro I’ve been waiting for this guy to react to Vaush

Off topic, but Mr. Horn, I love the thumbnails. You remind me of a disappointed father who is about to dish out some much needed discipline.

01:37 Imagine if the other dog felt like he was a dog during the 1930s in Germany. I bet they would not encourage him.

This will always be worth watching whenever I think homeschooling is hard.

I was really into Harry Potter and LOTR growing up and I thought I was a wizard when I was under 5 years old so you all better respect my magical powers.

Amen and hello from a fellow mom of a little boy Spiderman 🤣

Responding to Vaush is picking VERY low hanging fruit

@anno-fw7xn

2 ай бұрын

Like did you see his arugment he realy need to, i mean he denfd the chrure how spend million to cover up all ther crimes.

Trent, I implore you to stop involving yourself with these frivolous internet debates and degenerate online streamers. Vaush should not be given this attention. How many times do we have to rehash this debate about transgenderism? We all know that we are correct and the other side will forever contest that because they represent an evil. I feel like you are grasping for content. Reviewing Vaush videos are beneath you. God bless you Trent

@kyler9323

2 ай бұрын

I disagree. People like Vaush and Destiny have way larger followings than Trent. Trent's engagement with these streamers builds traffic for his own channel and presents the other side to those audiences. Trent is right where he needs to be.

"We should accept people for what they are!" It's a shame that dog couldn't accept himself for what he was, a dog!

From what Trent shows, the dog in the video doesn't claim to be a cat. He just does cat things. They're conflating acting in ways typical of the opposite sex with believing you are the opposite sex, but then they claim it's their opponents that do that. It's such contradictory nonsense.

OMG!! What is wrong with the world!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

I just remember this guy because some libertarian guy calls him "VOOOOSH!".

For the puppet video, they had to do the following: 1. Assess the need 2. Get people to fund it 3. Find someone to write the script 4. Find people willing to shoot it, light it, act in it, and operate a transspecies puppet dogcat 5. Test screen it and have people say it's a good idea to release it After all this, the school says the video was not to promote an agenda and was not the best choice.

If a dog acted like a cat it would still just be a dog....that acted like a cat

@bluestone9857

2 ай бұрын

species aren't genders.

I love the idea of a dog thinking he's a cat as an analogy for transgenderism, and it's supposed to make you PRO trans lmfao

@TheCounselofTrent

2 ай бұрын

Their analogy did not go as planned! oops! -Vanessa

I get what you meant to say, but there is a distinction between "normal" and "natural". Just bc something is a norm doesn't mean it is natural or good, since a "norm" can be a vice, too, like how it is unfortunately a "norm" that American kids and teens are exposed to pornography at a young

@rmtsapphire0

2 ай бұрын

Natural also doesn't mean good.

Would not be surprised if Vaush ends up in prison

Vaush is barely human.

Why do we oppose crossdressing? "A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman’s garment; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God." - God, Deuteronomy 22:5 That's not for us, and especially not for a priest, to question.

@newglof9558

2 ай бұрын

Could one make the argument that this is merely part of the Mosaic law, that has been superceded/fulfilled in Christ?

@vinciblegaming6817

2 ай бұрын

@@newglof9558It’s about presenting yourself as you are, which is a promotion of truth. So I think any argument would be difficult to make if it could. This is not an argument against women wearing pants or men wearing kilts. At the time of this writing, all men and women wore robes that were nearly identical in construction. However, the manner in which the clothing was worn did not diminish the ability to discern male from female.

@igorlopes7589

2 ай бұрын

​@@vinciblegaming6817 Exactly, so to give an example: if a man wears a skirt to be feminine, "be in touch with his feminine side" or express feminility it is sinful by the passage. If he does so not to express some feminility and it alsp just happens to be that in his society these are masculine/neutral clothing then it is fine beyond any doubt. If he does it not to "be feminine" but in a society where skirts are deemed feminine then it *could* be the sin of scandal.

@Cklert

2 ай бұрын

@@igorlopes7589 Another example of this would be St. Joan of Arc, she wore masculine clothes and armor during her time overseeing an army. But she never tried to pass herself off as a man. She wore those things simply because it was necessary given her position and role.

@rmtsapphire0

2 ай бұрын

How do we determine what is clothes of a man or a woman? That's completely socially and culturally determined and changes over time. Is there room for unisex clothing or is it all one or the other? How do you tell? If I don my kilt in Scotland and fly to America, do I have to change during the flight so as not to break this law?

Sometimes, my cat chirps like a bird because sometimes, cats will try to lure birds that way. My cat is not a bird. Also, dogs don’t have the ability to purr, just like men don’t have the ability to menstruate.

@Marilyn-np2xh

2 ай бұрын

A dog can never be a cat. Just ask any cat! 😄 I always said my cat would never want to be a dog. She knows she’s superior to any dog! 😅

It’s amazing we even have to spend breath on this topic. Thanks for the video. You also have my pity for having to listen to Vaush try to explain how Father Mike is wrong. I pray these brothers and sisters find the narrow path soon.

There's a big difference between accepting someone for who they are and who they think they are. We have no obligation to accept someone for who they think they are.

@babs_babs

2 ай бұрын

sounds like you reduce people down to their bodies.

I try to have compassion for all people, but some people I have to have compassion for from WAAAAAAAAAAY over here. Vaush is one of them.

@n4ughty_knight

2 ай бұрын

You don't have to have compassion. Just pray for their guardian angel to help them find the right path.

Ah yes, “Horse Lovin’” Vaush

@tylere.8436

2 ай бұрын

Vaush and Cenk can get along for their stallion fascination

I'm shocked that Trent would even give Vaush the publicity. The guy is dishonest intellectually and morally.

DO NOT debate Vaush if you aren’t in the business of talking to brick walls

It’s interesting that they’re unable to make an analogy that doesn’t prove they’re wrong. Yeah it’s a DOG that thinks it’s a CAT.

As a young boy I used to play with dolls I would make them fight each other

@isawaninterestingthing...7597

2 ай бұрын

lol

>Vaush No big surprise here

Wow, I didn't like getting my hair cut as a young boy. Who knew, all this time, I was trans.

Oh no, Trent Horn has discovered breadtube.

Putting that last clip of Vaush explaining Goblin p**n was absolutely the cherry on top 😂 Well done Trent

@TheCounselofTrent

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for watching! -Vanessa

Mr. "Water was not always H2O" Aqua Vaush

personally , I am a Catholic and I struggle with gender dysphoria. I do disagree with some things in this video like gender dysphoria being the same thing as BIID, because gender dysphoria actually has medical backing while researchers are still trying to find out what can cause it whether it be hormones, genetics or brain chemicals etc. But my point is, as a Catholic who does struggle with gender dysphoria, I hate that being gender dysphoria is something associated with degeneracy or trendy. It takes away from people who genuinely struggle but do believe in the Catholic Church. I hope one day the Church and more conservative people who may have the wrong impression can see that we aren't all reactionaries who wanna scream it 24/7 and run around with dog collars and masks lol. While sometimes I disagree, I like your content a lot Trent. God bless all

@SenorCinema

2 ай бұрын

leave this cult before its too late

@kwazooplayingguardsman5615

2 ай бұрын

Those who endeavor who battle these disordered desires are more saintly than most christians, Eternal strength to you, brother. Know that God and the Saints are cheering you on in your path towards virtue!

"The only way know your little boy (is transgender) is if he says so" "And my little boy says he's spiderman" I absolutely love this

8:45 So social norms are inherently good? This is no longer about god its just about what society thinks. If social norms conform to biological realities, then how is it possible pink was a mans color and blue was a womans color. Did biological reality change? Or was this change socially informed and that social change ended up changing our biology, in which were the men who started using blue being immoral? Or is the case that simply because have a negative emotional response to your actions your actions are immoral?

Thank you Trent for bringing clarity to this matter. It’s just sad to see what the world has become today. May the Lord Jesus Christ enlighten and heal our corrupt minds!

To suggest that feeling like you should be paraplegic when you aren't is just different from being transgender is absolutely wild.

@ashrieltan071

2 ай бұрын

Im not even saying that disparagingly(nor am i religious)

The dog thing is actually a good example of why transgenderism is false. Just like how the dog likes to play with yarn, but that doesn’t make him a cat, some boys might like dolls or stuffed animals, and some girls might like trucks or sports, but that doesn’t make them the opposite gender.

My daughter refused and screamed to sit on the toilet to poo. She would only go in her pull-ups. I can assure you today she uses the toilet.

Hey Trent! Just wanted to let you know that there is a condition in which a person can be born with male chromosomes but have perfectly female anatomy- in fact there are two of these conditions- Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome and Sywer’s syndrome. But even such cases, these people are not ‘true’ women. They cannot menstruate nor can they produce children. Thus, it does not in ANY WAY invalidate the traditional understanding of man and woman. A male is an individual who possesses the predisposition or tendency to produce a particular kind of gamete by virtue of his genetic composition. Even if this tendency were to be obstructed or masked (by say some injury or developmental aberration), the definition for a man does not change. An oak seed does not cease to be an oak seed even if you burn its exterior to prevent it from germinating. It still remains the ‘kind’ of thing it was. In other words, this is a change in accidental form and not substantial form.

@Fang1241

2 ай бұрын

We all literally started as female

@summerlovinxx

2 ай бұрын

"we follow the biology, dammit!" followed up with "people who don't menstruate or have children aren't biologically women and that is a real belief I genuinely, unironically hold." I can immediately think of an entire portion of people on your side of the aisle who would gladly ask where the loose screw is. what do you think they'd tell you, eh? how many people in your family are just as you described? friends, coworkers, neighbors, what have you? hopefully your mind isn't blown by the reality that they do exist, *a lot.* they're not an exception, they're part of the rule, and you'd know that if actually followed the biology. so if they can be women without doing the things you seem to think are a requirement, why not trans women? why not trans men be men? there are certainly cis men amongst you in the faith who have serious, legitimate medical conditions preventing you from successfully creating a child, and yet I don't see very many if not *any* of you in the KZread comments saying you're a woman, hey? I gotta say, it's almost as if there is more to the human experience than the physical world, like we could abstract upon the concepts we already know, constructing a new gender of identity at a social level. y'know, something like the abstract concept of gender identity and its use as a social construct. wait a minute, that's that thing them blue-haired sinners are always saying! all the time! over and over! as if they mean it and aren't just making noise to make noise! what a wild concept!

@adityaranjit9564

2 ай бұрын

@@Fang1241 anatomically, not genetically. When male children in the womb develop gonads, they begin producing testosterone which then leads the body to follow a development pattern that culminates in male anatomy. This normal pattern of development becomes obstructed when a person has a defective gene for the androgen receptor. This is androgen insensitivity syndrome. In order for testosterone to cause anatomical changes within the body it has to bind to this receptor which exists in cells. When this receptor is not made properly, testosterone can no longer get ‘glued’ onto it, thus causing the person to develop female traits. However, they are still male fundamentally. They can neither menstruate nor produce children. This is because how much ever you modify your external appearances you can’t change the thing you are genetically

@adityaranjit9564

2 ай бұрын

@@summerlovinxx you’ve misunderstood my argument. The definition for female is as follows A female is a member of the human species who by virtue of her genetic nature has the predisposition or tendency to produce gametes of a certain kind (ova). Now note very carefully the use of the word ‘predisposition’. I’m not suggesting that women who stop ovulating aren’t women. Women remain women even if they have lost the ability to produce gametes because they still have XX chromosomes. This is why I brought up the example of an oak tree. Even if we were to prevent the germination of an oak seed by burning off its exterior, it does not change the kind of thing it is genetically. All the external sexual characteristics that women have directly ‘flow’ from the fact they have an XX chromosome. So even if one of those external characteristics were to be lost, it doesn’t change the essential nature of a woman. Thus, a woman does not cease to be a woman if she gets a mastectomy or a hysterectomy. Trans women cannot be women because they are not the same thing genetically. A trans person is dependent on the use of hormones for their biological characteristics. Check out Vaush vs Tomas Bogardus on Modern Day Debate. It’s really informative on this very subject.

@summerlovinxx

2 ай бұрын

​@@adityaranjit9564 I believe I've already seen the video you're referencing. your point still doesn't make sense. by your logic, we should be calling amputees limbed people because they started off with and had the predisposition to have limbs.