Varroa Mite fogging treatment, new formula, better coverage, kill and control varroa

This new Varroa Mite fogger formula is so much better than the old Vodka and mineral oil mix that I came up with. This new formula is a true Varroa fogger not just a mist. 7 pumps (4 on the bottom 3 on top) of the Burgess Fogger there will be 1 Tbsp. of fluid and in that Tbsp of fog juice there is 4 grams of dissolved O.A. You can always increase the O.A. amount to make it a stronger solution but you also have to take into consideration the adhering effect of the O.A. laced glycerin sticking to everything inside the hive. I like the fogger because it is so quick to treat and the price is right. The gram amount of O.A. per hive is being question all over the world to determine if more O.A. is better, shorter times between treatments and the number of treatments. I do mine 4 times with 4 days apart. Please Subscribe and Like my channel it helps a lot, If you wish to donate for these money saving ideas click on this link; www.paypal.me/JeffWillard358 Thank You.

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  • @Jack-es9xq
    @Jack-es9xq11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. Good information is priceless

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @JoseMartinez-gp6in
    @JoseMartinez-gp6in2 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate your help with your experience it makes me understand how really treat my Bees’s may God bless your life

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Jose, glad to help..

  • @christosmavridis356

    @christosmavridis356

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hallo (Jeff , Jose) For one test I do the mixeture like Jeff said. The fogging was very good .. much Fogg . The time until I get the first cristals was 50 minutes ..for me this time is ok. (But definitely not 4 hours). The outside Temperature was 5° Celsius (= 41 Fareneinheit). I do it this way 3/4 Cup distilled water 0.1875liter Heat up to 170 Fahrenheit 76 grad 60 gr ( ca 4 tablespoon) oxcalic .. Until it gets clear.. Then I put 1/4 Cup Glyzerin 0,0624 Liter . I Stil mix it .. So it’s clear now and I put it into a Glas . Then start the fogging and see when the first crystals come up. Christos

  • @etiennelabeille
    @etiennelabeille11 күн бұрын

    Teaspoons, cups, Fahrenheit! Apart from that, great video and really interesting insights into the use of glycerin. I havent seen a fogger like that over here in UK. I use a battery driven model that uses a plug of oxalic powder per hive.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    3 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @waydwnbama-way3089
    @waydwnbama-way30892 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank You...

  • @lokesh303101
    @lokesh303101 Жыл бұрын

    So much better.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    It really is by 110%, thanks for watching...

  • @riverae53
    @riverae532 жыл бұрын

    I could never get the old recipe to vaporize very well, but this new one worked great. And thanks for the info on ordering the kit for fogger. I had 2 that really needed it. Thanks

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are most welcome, thanks for watching...

  • @christosmavridis356

    @christosmavridis356

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hallo ..After how much time it starts to crystallized ? did you mix it and after 30 min you finisch with fogging ? how long it stays withyout crystalls ? 30min is to less that you could finish fogging all your hives .. ok what i have done "fault " i have mix them all together .. and not like Jeff descripted ( First Oxcal and Water than Glycerin) .. but ok my reluts was also clear after heating.. So therefore o ask you the times that the solution stays clear. regards Christos

  • @riverae53

    @riverae53

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@christosmavridis356 i generally use all of the solution within 2 hrs or so. Ive seen crystallation after 4 hrs on solution ive left

  • @christosmavridis356

    @christosmavridis356

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@riverae53 ok this is somethink that i could work on it. i tried it next time exctly how jeff is do it .. thanks

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Christos, I never timed how long the crystallization process takes. I made a big batch and didn't use all of it and when I got back to the bench the next day in late afternoon I noticed that there was a small cloudy spot of crystals at the bottom of a quart jar that continued to grow through the next couple of days. That is why I stressed to make it then use it in the video but it should stay crystal free for a day. I started handling the fog juice as soon as it was cool enough to pour into the fogger jar. With a fogger you can treat a whole lot of hives in 30 minuets and you should be able to reheat the crystallized mix to use, so there is no waste.

  • @daryldaigle7214
    @daryldaigle72142 жыл бұрын

    Good to see you making another video Jeff.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Daryl, I'm always trying to help other beekeepers, Thanks for watching.

  • @jerrywilson1775
    @jerrywilson17752 жыл бұрын

    So, I have been using your orgional recipe for about 5 years now and it has worked phenomenally! Will try this one as well o ce the Apivar wears off. Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are very welcome and I am glad it was working so well for you. Thanks for watching....

  • @eriklizandro9
    @eriklizandro92 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeff, thank you for your videos, very helpful. At what temperature can I apply in spring time? I’m in Washington state!

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Erik, Apply it when the temperature gets to at least 65 degrees fahrenheit fog in the morning and not in the evening when the temperature begins cools bees do not do well being damp and cold.... Thanks for watching.

  • @CarpetCareIncFairfield
    @CarpetCareIncFairfield Жыл бұрын

    FIRST, I want to thank u for all the help you have given to my daughter and I as far as honey bees go. Without your videos we would be a sail boat with no wind. THANK YOU. I am going to fog and I bought all i need to fog through your videos. It is september and bees are bearding. They are not all in the hives. Is this right time of year to do foggibg or should I wait till bees all go into hive? I am going to fog on these days 1-6-12 thanks Kenny & Elizabeth

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Kenny, Depending on where you live and the temperature, most people do their treatments in early Fall before the temps start to drop. I will do 3 treatments in August when the Varroa population is peaking inside the hives and do another 4 treatments in late Fall (it is still warm in N.W. Florida). You should also do 4 treatments so yours should be on the 1-6-12-18 or any 4 week period that's good for you while it is still warm out. As far as the bearding bees shoot them with the fog treatment too, glad to help and thanks for watching....

  • @shayes1079
    @shayes107911 ай бұрын

    Good afternoon JW. It’s mid August. Soon I will harvest the honey. Yes, I enjoy your videos. Now, QA about varroa fumigation. I use your H2O+OA+1/4 cup glycerine mix. Nice 1) what’s the shelf life of the mix? 2) on which other critters can I use OA? 3) how does OA affect the honey? Thanks, Steve

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Steve, You'll want to use the mix that day because it will start to recrystallize overnight. It is pretty much just for Varroa, it's not a quick killing insecticide. I would not take a chance on possibly contaminating honey that I was going to eat or sell, I would treat with the supers off. Thanks for watching..

  • @CarpetCareIncFairfield
    @CarpetCareIncFairfield2 жыл бұрын

    I just got my fogger today and to be honest we just made it through our first winter. I live in CT. We did inspect our drone brood and low and behold we had mites. I plan to fog tomorrow morning before they leave the hive. Should i follow up every four days. for a total of 4 foggs? I am a newbe and thank you for taking your time to write back. Your friend Kenny.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is correct four treatments, 4-5 days apart. Good luck with you bees.

  • @ababner317
    @ababner3173 ай бұрын

    Jeff thanks for the video. Next time please type up or show the containers of the ingredients big enough so I can read the labels? I saw Mineral oil and Skol Vodka containers were they used in the mixture? Thank You.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    3 ай бұрын

    The video tells how much of each ingredient is used for this new mixture. The alcohol and mineral oil are not used in this mixture, they are there for demonstration of the older formula.

  • @georgetaylor9154
    @georgetaylor91549 ай бұрын

    I couldn't help but notice that hole right at the gate entrance, is that a ground hog? 😂😂 and thank you for this recipe and idea just ordered all the parts necessary.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    9 ай бұрын

    That hole belongs to a Florida Gopher Turtle, I have several on my property. I'll leave veggies from my garden outside their holes to make sure they get enough to eat. You'll really enjoy treating for Varroa with this method, plus it's cheap and easy.

  • @MinnesotaBeekeeper
    @MinnesotaBeekeeper2 жыл бұрын

    Jeff always enjoy your research but I have to ask, what is the gram dosage you just put in that hive? Dosage per squeeze and so on. I have never seen any fogger videos that breakdown the numbers. Some pretty important information since we now know lower doses like 1 gram perb super just doesn't work effectively. I suppose you could measure by weight the jar contents, give one squeeze and reweight. Figure in the ratio of the mix to OA. We are now doing 4 to 5 grams now per double deep, 4 days apart for 5 to 6 treatments using the Lorob bees sublimator. By the way I own that model fogger. I stopped fogging because I wasn't getting the 99% final kill we look for. Thank you Jeff. Looking forward to a follow up. Always enjoy all your work.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Michael, With 7 pumps (4 on the bottom 3 on top) of the Burgess Fogger there will be 1 Tbsp. of fluid and in that Tbsp of fog juice there is 4 grams of dissolved O.A. You can always increase the O.A. amount to make it a stronger solution but you also have to take into consideration the adhering effect of the O.A. laced glycerin sticking to everything inside the hive. I like the fogger because it is so quick to treat and the price is right. The gram amount of O.A. per hive is being question all over the world to determine if more O.A. is better, shorter times between treatments and the number of treatments. I do mine 4 times with 4 days apart, thanks for the question and watching.

  • @almojewell
    @almojewell Жыл бұрын

    Hello i love this and am going to try it. can you treat with this with the honey suppers on

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    11 ай бұрын

    I always treat mine with the honey supers off, to avoid any possible contamination of the honey. Be safe not sorry....

  • @JimQuinn-tb3uq
    @JimQuinn-tb3uq25 күн бұрын

    if you use the burgess fogger you will need to use a medium sized mason jar to hold the liquid. If you try to use the container that comes with the fogger it won't work. Because the liquid in the container will not be deep enough to reach the bottom of the intake valve on the fogger.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    25 күн бұрын

    You are correct, that's why I use a pint glass jar. It is on the fogger in the video.

  • @shayes1079
    @shayes10792 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jeff, will try this new way. BTW what maintenance does the Burgess Fogger need? I mean I tried fogging using your mineral oil and lecithin method. I couldn’t get it to release the mix - I know because, after minutes of frustration, I pointed it at myself, no gagging fumes at all. So, thinking about it, how do you clean the jets? Maybe just jet the hot water as a rinse? Thanks, good work on reducing work!

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mr. Hayes, That first vodka formula came out as a mist not really a fog but this one is way ahead of the old one. I was doing some splits this Spring and popped out over a dozen Drone brood to check on the Varroa and did not see one mite. You just need to pull the trigger to flush it out several times with clean water, that is all. Thanks for watching.

  • @CarpetCareIncFairfield
    @CarpetCareIncFairfield2 жыл бұрын

    Jeff, just checking to see if there were any changes to this recipe as of this video or any subsequent problems. Thks Kenny

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Kenny, No changes required; I am really happy with this new formula. No Varroa mites in over a dozen drone brood I popped out this Spring to inspect from last years Fall treatment.

  • @CarpetCareIncFairfield

    @CarpetCareIncFairfield

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 I just got my fogger today and to be honest we just made it through our first winter. I live in CT. We did inspect our drone brood and low and behold we had mites. I plan to fog tomorrow morning before they leave the hive. Should i follow up every four days. for a total of 4 foggs? I am a newbe and thank you for taking your time to write back. Your friend Kenny.

  • @christomlins8564
    @christomlins8564 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Jeff I've just come across your KZread video and your formula for fogging using water instead of alcohol. I treat my bees with Formic Acid in August but have in the winter been vaporising oxalic acid but have a fogger bought when mineral oil was a possible solution to the varroa problem. For its speed of use the Burgess Fogger is interesting for oxalic acid. Three treatments in August would be ok using distilled water but living in the UK fogging with water would be out of the question in mid winter. I am assuming that the alcohol mix can be used for a winter treatment albeit with the ignition risk.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Chris, I wouldn't want to use alcohol or any treatment in the Winter the bees are in a cluster to keep warm and anything increasing the moisture inside the hive is not helping the bees. These types of treatments are meant for the Summer (August is peak Varroa population) and Fall, I treat mine in August and again in the Fall. Thanks for watching..

  • @nealskelton1425
    @nealskelton14252 жыл бұрын

    Good morning Jeff. My Mentor recommends the dribble method on a warm day during December or January when the bee have broken cluster. What's your thoughts on using the fogger instead of the dribble method?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Neal, Definitely a fogger while it is warm out and the bees are dispersed in the hive for better bee/mite coverage. There is an old beekeeper saying; "Ask 2 beekeepers the same question and you'll get 3 different answers". I myself have never liked or used the dribble method for these reasons; 1. It will only possibly treat the areas the dribbled touches. 2. Your forcing the bees to consume a sugar syrup with O.A. in it, while most people are wearing gloves and googles while applying it. Plus I would never get bees wet/damp in the winter, it maybe warmer in the day but at night it is colder. Bees can withstand the cold pretty well but not being wet and cold which is a recipe for disaster. I have said in the past beekeeping is like eating ice cream everybody likes a different flavor, you just have to choose your flavor. Whatever method you choose good luck with your bees.

  • @PhillipHall01
    @PhillipHall012 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeff, I was on beemaster and saw that you was online for a brief time as well. Just wanted to say hello. It been a while since we have talked. Phillip

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phillip, I hadn't been on Beemaster in a long long time, I just popped in to look around. All is going well, so far so good still Covid free..... Looking towards Spring for the bees and garden.

  • @PhillipHall01

    @PhillipHall01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 I am looking forward to spring as well. Yesterday it was in the upper 50s. Today we have ice and are in the middle of an ice storm, as we speak! Mmmm. 😊. By the way, I enjoyed the video. Thanks for posting. Phillip

  • @grigoris991
    @grigoris991 Жыл бұрын

    So It looks great boss, But how often you treat, and how many days apart.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll treat my hives at the first of August and again in late Fall before it gets too cold. Treat once a week for four weeks, with the honey supers off. Thanks for watching...

  • @desmondsimmons1436
    @desmondsimmons14362 жыл бұрын

    How long and how many times have you used this method? I like the ideal of using a fogger for speeding un the delivery method.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used my Vodka and mineral oil formula (see video) since 2018, this is the first year for my new glycerin Varroa control formula. This new one really fogs inside the hive were as the Vodka one didn't. I treat mine 4 times @ 4 days between each treatment. I like the Burgess fogger for the same reasons its fast and a lot cheaper than a $500.00 ProVap.

  • @lewisshotton3157
    @lewisshotton3157 Жыл бұрын

    I tried it this morning, using my brand-new Burgees propane fogger and a pint jar to hold the Oxalic mixture that you recommended. I had a very difficult time getting the solution to sublimate. I, at 1st thought that maybe I was trying to pump too much 'wet' solution through the fogger, so I let it sit a while and tried again but still, no-go. The fogger, although plenty hot, still would not sublimate the solution. It would at best intermittently spatter out some vapors. Buy that time I had spattered hot liquid into approx 5 hives and still had about 20 that needed to be treated. I had to give up because the bees were starting to fly and the solution was starting to crystalize. I came back to my shop, filled up the yellow insecticide jar with water and attempted to pump water through the fogger while keeping it lit. I seem to have the same problem with getting the fogger to consistently sublimate in all instances thus far. I consistently get a very undependable spattering of vapor/smoke. I am wondering if I would have the same problem using the alcohol solution. Maybe I bought a broken fogger? I would appreciate any advise and/or insight that you can provide. Thank you !

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Lewis, I going to assume that you mixed the solution just like in the video, water at 170 add O.A. then the glycerin, I'm asking because you said it started to crystalize after 5 hives, it should have taken a lot long than that to start crystalizing. Next unscrew the tip and check to see if the tip is partially clogged. Pump it with clean water, you should get a fairly good gush of water out the end without the tip on. Even if you left out the O.A. in the mixture it should still produce a fog just using the water and glycerin. I guess if all else fails that I suggested you might have a defective fogger, I have two foggers and the only problems I ever had was the pump (which is easily rebuilt) and the tip getting clogged. I hope this helps your problem.

  • @lewisshotton3157

    @lewisshotton3157

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Yes, I think I followed all your instructions correctly. After letting the solution cool, getting down to the yard, dealing with a dead deer that I found there, and all my trouble shooting it was likely getting close to a couple hours. I will follow your instructions for unscrewing and checking the tip. I’m going to mix a double batch tomorrow morning to be sure that the pump is sufficient submerge and give it another try. I’m feeling hopeful 🤞Thank you!

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lewisshotton3157 Something else I should tell you I have used my foggers for many years and I started to notice when I was cleaning them the gush out of the end with the tip off was not as much as usual. I took them with the tips and pumps off propped them upside down with the fill tube upright and using a syringe pumped in and really strong solution of TSP cleaner and let it set for about a week, pumping in more a few times just to make sure it's working. replaced the pump and then pumped clean water, at first a bunch of black goop came out then just clean water at full force. This maybe a good maintenance to do every couple of years. If you were able to salvage any Deer meat, try a beef bourguignon recipe using just deer meat, absolutely delicious and also thin sliced and chicken fried...

  • @lewisshotton3157

    @lewisshotton3157

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 thank you. As I just bought the fogger and had not used it until today, I think it might be safe to put off taking the pump apart for a while. *Unless you think it’s a good idea in my case*. I’m attaching a vid from this morning. I’m a plant based guy but I don’t think even a very hungry carnivore would eat from this carcass. Thank you Sincerely

  • @lewisshotton3157

    @lewisshotton3157

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 studio.kzread.infoPpCNBAZhIc0/edit

  • @brianmay760
    @brianmay760 Жыл бұрын

    Lots of good advice. I just got my bees a week ago. I'm purchasing a fogger now to start treatment. Can I treat them in the next week? And how often would you treat them with this method?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Treatment is once a week for four weeks. I will treat my hives before the peak of the Varroa population which is in August and then again in the Fall before it gets too cold. If you're getting a Nuc or a package of bees they may have been already treated, just ask the seller.

  • @brianmay760

    @brianmay760

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Thank you Jeff. I believe they were treated before I got them, but I will call to confirm. Next is to purchase a food thermometer to make sure the formula isn't to hot before fogging. I hope to have a good beekeeping season. Cheers.

  • @jreith2470
    @jreith2470 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeff! Thanks for your video. I'm leaving in PA, can I fog my bees in December?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello J Reith, I wouldn't unless the temps are in the mid to upper 60's Fahrenheit. Adding moisture to the hive when the temperature is cold makes it difficult for the bees to regulate their body temperature and possible death of the bees. If you need to treat for varroa when it is cold and they are staring to cluster your only option is a dry treatment like Aprivar which contains Amitraz, (which is the same ingredient in flea collars) or other insertable strip type treatments that are on the market. Thanks for watching...

  • @jreith2470

    @jreith2470

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Thank you!

  • @CarpetCareIncFairfield
    @CarpetCareIncFairfield Жыл бұрын

    Afternoon, I just did my first fog a couple of days ago. I really fogged hard. I pulled plastic board out of the hive and found a lot of dead mites. Also in front of one of the hives there are a lot of crawling bees? I am going to fog three more times like you suggested. I hope i am in time to save hives. Thanks and any suggestions would be appreciated. Ken

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Ken, It sounds like it is doing well for you. Remember that the Varroa population peaks in August, so if you can do some treatments in July to knock the numbers down it would help and follow up in the Fall with the 4-week treatment plan. With all that can go horribly wrong in beekeeping (Varroa, Viruses, SHB, etc.) all you can do is hope for the best and keep moving forward.

  • @ireneyeats7410
    @ireneyeats74102 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeff. Can this be done by just sending in the vapor at the entrance similar to using the heating tray method?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Irene, It may but it is two different types of heating. The fogger is controlled boiling inside a tube to exit as a fog and the vaporizer is an open tray which may boil and pop hot fluid on the bees killing them. Try it outside of the hive to see the results, as they say you don't know until you try. Good luck in your experiment.

  • @rickjudgejr1435
    @rickjudgejr1435 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if you use the yellow tank if it make a difference. Yellow tanks are hotter

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    The yellow tank holds to much material to be practical in this fogging situation.

  • @slvrblkk
    @slvrblkk11 ай бұрын

    You think there's any issue with just doing a 50/50 mix of water and veg glycerin? I'm get a lot of spitting so I'm thinking for glycerin may make it fog better.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    11 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't do the 50/50 mix a tablespoon more is ok. make sure the fogger is heated up and take the fogger nozzle off and clean it. Now with clean water make sure you have a good flow through the tubes with the nozzle off. I hope this helps.

  • @dnlwilliams1987
    @dnlwilliams19872 жыл бұрын

    Nice, I experimented with acidifying sucrose syrup today adding Braggs vinegar to prevent fermentation. My 2:1 batch started at ph8.5 and after adding 1/2 cup to 12 gallons, I dropped it to ph4.5. Do you have any experience acidified syrup?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Daniel & Leslie, I have never ventured down the acidified syrup avenue but it sounds interesting. I think everything should be considered even if in evolves a multi prong attack on Varroa to control them. The only process I really couldn't get behind was the O.A. in sugar syrup because your making the bees lick the O.A. syrup up. My foolish thought was if you the beekeeper are not willing to take a mouth full of the O.A. syrup why give it to your bees but that's me....

  • @DawnBuis125

    @DawnBuis125

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always put at least 1TBSP apple cider vinegar in all my gallon jugs of syrup to prevent fermentation. I also have had lower mite counts coming out of winter when I’ve been feeding. Not sure that the two are correlated at all though.

  • @christosmavridis356
    @christosmavridis3562 жыл бұрын

    Hallo Jeff, Your video is very good and helpful for logging. But please could you write down the formula of fogging.. Is hard to understand when you are not native English speaker.. Thank you very much. Christos

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Chris, No problem, I hope my metric conversion is OK. What county are you beekeeping in? 3/4 Cup or 0.1875 litre of distilled water heated to 170 degrees Fahrenheit or 76 Celsius 4 Tablespoons or 60 Millilitre Oxalic Acid 1/4 Cup or .0624 of vegetable glycerin

  • @christosmavridis356

    @christosmavridis356

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 thank you for the fast answer!!. I will try it .Christos

  • @christosmavridis356

    @christosmavridis356

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hallo Jeff Now I see your question..Im am Greek but I do beekeeping in Germany.. Christos

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@christosmavridis356 You are an International Beekeeper, does any of that honey goes towards that delicious dessert Baklava.

  • @christosmavridis356

    @christosmavridis356

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 no I do it for hobby ;)

  • @kmichal9648
    @kmichal96488 ай бұрын

    Hi. Shall I ask you to be more exact? How many grams, etc. Thank you

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    8 ай бұрын

    With 7 pumps (4 on the bottom 3 on top) of the Burgess Fogger there will be 1 Tbsp. of fluid and in that Tbsp of fog juice there is 4 grams of dissolved O.A. You can always increase the O.A. amount to make it a stronger solution but you also have to take into consideration the adhering effect of the O.A. laced glycerin sticking to everything inside the hive. I like the fogger because it is so quick to treat and the price is right. The gram amount of O.A. per hive is being question all over the world to determine if more O.A. is better, shorter times between treatments and the number of treatments. I do mine 4 times with 4 days apart, thanks for the question and watching.

  • @kmichal9648

    @kmichal9648

    8 ай бұрын

    @jeffwillard2417 thank you for reply. Be careful with putting mask down when fogging.

  • @johnskrabak8054
    @johnskrabak80542 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from southern Chester County, southeastern PA - hardiness zone 6 If Nov/Dec I would do an Oxalic acid dribble. Should I continue or use my fogger?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi John, I have never used it or been in favor of the O.A. laced sugar syrup dribble treatment. I would think it would be more harmful in the cooler Nov/Dec months, bees can stand the cold but not being wet and cold. The dribble method only treats the comb and bees where the syrup hits, with the fogger it will coat/treat every inch of comb and bees inside the hive. So I guess what I'm trying to say is use your fogger and when it is warm out..... Good luck with your bees.

  • @johnskrabak8054

    @johnskrabak8054

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Thank you, sir. makes sense to me. Do you fog late in the season then? I suppose a dribble has the same difficulty reaching the center of the cluster as the fog?

  • @jasonwhittingham4784
    @jasonwhittingham4784 Жыл бұрын

    I’m wondering if this mix would kill ticks and chiggers?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    I do not know, but a standard insecticide solution made for the fogger probably will.

  • @DS-lg5ib
    @DS-lg5ib Жыл бұрын

    Do you have a link to a cheap fogger? Will any fogger off amazon do the trick. Thanks in advance

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Any insect fogger will work but I don't have any special place to purchase one other than Amazon, E-Bay, big box stores or garage sales. Good luck in your search and thanks for watching..

  • @grigoris991
    @grigoris9918 ай бұрын

    Hey brother, How often You have to do this? Today is 10/20/2023. Thank you.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    8 ай бұрын

    Once a week for 4 weeks, pick the warmest days if you can. Bees do not like to be cold and damp.

  • @peterprapas8421
    @peterprapas84212 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeff,is it safe to fog with temperature 5-10 degrees Celsius

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, With the Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion that is 41 to 50 degrees for us, which is getting towards the danger level for getting bees damp or putting extra moisture in the hive. The bees can stand getting cold but not damp and cold which is dangerous for the bees. You need the bees to be dispersed thought out the hive not in their winter cluster for best O.A. treatment and coverage. At this point I would suggest to wait until it warms up in the Spring and treat then before the honey supers on on and again in Summer after you pull the honey supers off and a final treatment in the Fall before it gets to cold. Good luck with your bees over the winter.

  • @adamsonright2120
    @adamsonright21202 жыл бұрын

    please would you tell me if its ok to use this method while supers are on? also using water wouldn't that increase the humidity inside the hive?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just to be on the safe side and remove any possible contamination to your honey, I would not fog with supers on. The small amount of water vapor will not bother the hive at all, the bees probably bring in more water than what is used in the fogger just to cool the hive on a hot day. I use screened top covers to help with ventilation and cooling the hive in the Summer.

  • @adamsonright2120

    @adamsonright2120

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 thank you very much

  • @yuvalpo
    @yuvalpo2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeff. I have used the recipe, but don't see mite drop after 5 min. and the only 1 which dropped is well alive. i assume that i do have mites... is it because the amount of fog i use for each hive.? i used half or less of your mix in average.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Use the full amount, it is calculated for each hive to get a full dose of O.A. The Varroa will drop off and twitch, if they are on their back they are as good as dead.

  • @yuvalpo

    @yuvalpo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Thank you for your reply, and of course for the excellent information sharing. i will try.

  • @KentuckyCoyoteoutdoors
    @KentuckyCoyoteoutdoors2 ай бұрын

    Are you still using this technique with success? Looking for a new way to treat mites other than just the oxalic acid cause I have a couple log hives that just have little holes in them for entrances and my vaporizer won’t fit in the hole but my fogger would I usually just treat with mineral oil but this would be much better

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 ай бұрын

    A big yes I'm still using it, my bee inspector was here a couple of weeks ago and went through my hives, we talked afterwards and said that he popped out a bunch of drone cells and did not find one Varroa mite inside, so yes this may the best treatment for Varroa. It's very effective, easy to apply and the equipment is inexpensive, I'll never switch to anything else.

  • @KentuckyCoyoteoutdoors

    @KentuckyCoyoteoutdoors

    2 ай бұрын

    Sounds good enough to me how often do you treat?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 ай бұрын

    @@KentuckyCoyoteoutdoors Once a week for 4 weeks. Try to start before August (peak Varroa population) and again in the fall before it gets cold.

  • @maggiewatte7911
    @maggiewatte79112 жыл бұрын

    I have a cutter Fogger. Could it be used instead of the Burgess , since I already have the Cutter Fogger?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    It should work just fine Maggie, they both use the same type of heater coil and propane to vaporize the fluid. .

  • @maggiewatte7911

    @maggiewatte7911

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 thank you

  • @johnskrabak8054
    @johnskrabak80542 жыл бұрын

    Is there any benefit to replace the distilled water with mineral oil?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi John, It won't work, you would be mixing oil in a water base and as we all know oil and water don't mix. That is why I had to use an soy emulsifier in my first O.A. formula video in order for the alcohol and mineral oil to mix together. This new O.A fogger formula is 100 times better that the old one, Good luck....

  • @johnskrabak8054

    @johnskrabak8054

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Thank you, sir.

  • @nealskelton1425
    @nealskelton14252 жыл бұрын

    What made you think to use Vegetable glycerine?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Neal, Our local Florida Bee Inspector came to inspect my hives and we got into a discussion about CCD, Varroa and hive die outs. That led to talking about a treatment that people were melting O.A. in glycerin and then soaking it in paper to use like Aprivar strips. Talk is that Varroa are starting to be resistant to Aprivar and besides who wants Amitraz (flea collar insecticide) in their hives, not me. As I'm watching these glycerin/O.A. videos on You-Tube, my inner voice said all you need to do was add distilled water and you would have fog juice which I did and with excellent results. I like simple low cost solutions to problems, which this is because you can increase the potency by adding more O.A. or even essential oils.

  • @nealskelton1425

    @nealskelton1425

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Oh my gosh. I didn't realize that your in Florida. I'm in Pennsylvania. I moved up here from Bradenton Florida. So yes, I don't miss fire ants, love bugs or mosquitoes. I'll be using your recipe tomorrow. U R da man.

  • @debbiecomeau820
    @debbiecomeau8202 жыл бұрын

    Hi. How hard is this on your fogger? What do you clean it with afterwards?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Debbie, It doesn't affect the fogger at all, but you must flush it with clean water just as you would when using any product in your fogger. I just also want to add that this year when I was doing splits I opened numerous Drone cells and I did not see one Varroa mite on the Drones, I couldn't be happier with those results so spead the word. Thanks for watching....

  • @debbiecomeau820

    @debbiecomeau820

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Yes. it sounds great. I'm looking for something i can use with the honey supers on. It would be so convenient. Maybe formic acid?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@debbiecomeau820 It may not effect the honey but I wouldn't chance it, wait until the supers are off then do a treatment. The Varroa population is at its peak in August inside the beehive, then do another treatment in the Fall when it is still warm. Do not do any treatments when it is cool outside and the bees are trying to stay warm, bees do not do well being damp and cold. Good luck...

  • @johndick5632
    @johndick56328 ай бұрын

    What about using alcohol and AC? I have ever type

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    8 ай бұрын

    I improved on the alcohol/oxalic acid formula also (older video), but it doesn't have the fog coverage like this new one does, hands down this is the best one to use.

  • @johndick5632

    @johndick5632

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 I am currently getting ready to fog 2x more prior to winter. Currently the weather is nice in the Great Lakes area. So, I normally use formic acid all year long however, I have had some mites kill off some rather strong hives. I have been using oxy straight up, with this little iron from Amazon when it works and with the amount of hives I have its all day. So, I purchased some Everclear, I was going to use this. Right now, I am looking for this oil, if I cannot find it around Sault Ste. Marie Ontario, would you suggest another type? Also, I would like to point out that your videos are very good and to the point. I like it even more that you answer your followers with a immediate answers. Much appreciated.

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    8 ай бұрын

    @@johndick5632 Hi John, I think the oil you're referring to is vegetable glycerin, you can find it in drug stores or online. I made a prior video substituting Everclear which is very expensive fog fogging. I included a link to Amazon for the glycerin and the other video I made using alcohol to fog with. Good luck. www.amazon.com/Vegetable-Glycerine-Glycerin-Natural-Cosmetic/dp/B01N9PZO9F/ref=sr_1_6?crid=N75T6JOD9F2S&keywords=vegetable+glycerine+food+grade&qid=1697658452&sprefix=vegatble+gly%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-6 kzread.info/dash/bejne/g35hxpRmerCYpZc.html

  • @badassbees3680
    @badassbees3680 Жыл бұрын

    How do you know how much oa your dosing...my hives were loaded after mineral oil and oa there's much better methods not to bash but if you go past hobby no way you can rely on this and my fogger ceramic busted in no time

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    With 7 pumps (4 on the bottom 3 on top) of the Burgess Fogger there will be 1 Tbsp. of fluid and in that Tbsp of fog juice there is 4 grams of dissolved O.A. You can always increase the O.A. amount to make it a stronger solution but you also have to take into consideration the adhering effect of the O.A. laced glycerin sticking to everything inside the hive.

  • @ericgrider4165
    @ericgrider4165 Жыл бұрын

    How many times are you supposed to fog them?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    Once a week for 4 weeks

  • @HighFlight2k2
    @HighFlight2k2 Жыл бұрын

    Are you still using this method? Is this still your preferred method?

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    The answer is yes to both. It is easy to apply with great coverage inside the hive.

  • @HighFlight2k2

    @HighFlight2k2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 I have a Burgess 1443 fogger but was advised not to use it will bees because it can shoot out hot liquid. I found your video and was surprised to see someone using it. Do you not have any issues with it? Or are there tricks to make sure you don't hurt the bees? Also, you were mentioning 3 through the entrance, 2 to 3 above each box. Was that seconds? Thanks for the reply!

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HighFlight2k2 I have used the Burgess fogger on my hives for years with no ill effects to the bees. You just have to let the coil heat up so the fogging process can start, ounce heated the fog in almost instantaneous. The 3 at the entrance and 3 above are trigger pumps.

  • @HighFlight2k2

    @HighFlight2k2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffwillard2417 Thank you sir!

  • @jeffwillard2417

    @jeffwillard2417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HighFlight2k2 You are most welcome...