Buy Varjo Aero in Europe: bit.ly/varjo-aero-europe (Affiliate) Buy Varjo Aero in US/World: www.varjo.com What do you think of the device?

@John546

2 жыл бұрын

I was ready to buy until they said AMD cards were not supported :( My 6900XT is a 'fail' for this headset.... Maybe Pimax Frontier will be an option..

@shashumga6766

2 жыл бұрын

Im gonna buy one instantly when i build my new pc im so exited

@thejed1austinchannel672

2 жыл бұрын

Roses are red violets are blue I want one of theses and so do you

@privileguan9127

2 жыл бұрын

Way overpriced, enthusiast headset. No human eye resolution field(!!) and many lacking features like refresh rate, FoV, wireless option, audio/mic solution, separate controller/stations etc. 2500-3000€ for what? A joke.

@Fenestron

2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a screen shot comparison in DCS of the Aero and VR3? With the removal of the additional lens from the VR3, how does the Aero produce a clearer picture?

This video is so incredible....3 times during this video, you said something - and i had a question...and its like you read my mind and answered it. Specially when you said Varjo got rid of most of the barrel distortion - i was like "how did they do that?" and you immediately went into it.

@mixedrealityTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, so glad I could provide some value here!

Damn, they made this QUICK! I bet they had expected a lot of people would love the VR3, so they had this planned as backup just in case. Very excited to see more on this headset.

@AeromatterYT

2 жыл бұрын

VR3 Has been around a while (I tried one at a trade show in 2019), I imagine they've been pushing the VR3 lately to get people familiar with the company before they release this. Seriously impressive HMD *EDIT - It was a VR2 I tried, my mistake*

I’ve been waiting for a consumer varjo headset since the VR-1 released. words cannot describe how excited I am

@userrelkjwrweefdggfdgsagsadgw

2 жыл бұрын

sameeeeeeeeee crazy

@privileguan9127

2 жыл бұрын

I was so hyped after seeing the Varjo VR3. Thought the may have improved it even more or made a cheaper version at around 1000€ Then it showed a good headset for 3-4 times the price tag of comparable headset with useless premium features like the auto IPD adjustment, while getting rid of the human eye resolution, no hand tracking, no pass-through and bad sound/mic solution. My personal letdown this year. I got higher hopes in lynx for now..

@mikkihintikka7273

2 жыл бұрын

fow what kind of use?

@DKTronics70

2 жыл бұрын

2,300 Euro, is NOT a consumer headset. It's a headset for those with money to throw around.

@mikkihintikka7273

2 жыл бұрын

@@DKTronics70 human earns about million dollars in his lifetime on average. And that just earnings without investment earnings so please tell me if flight simulator is someones top3 hobby how he cant spend that kind of money on it?

Very professional and comprehensive review! Thanks for all the info on this exciting new HMD.

@mixedrealityTV

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

This is so awesome! 🙌 Thanks MRTV for pushing for this (and Varjo for doing it!)

@leomilor

2 жыл бұрын

Purchased already o/

You helped on this!! I just want to take a moment to say thank you and we appreciate all your hard work!! ❤️

@danielfields4078

2 жыл бұрын

100 percent agree

Shows how hard it is to make large fov headset, nobody does it but Pimax…immersion is clarity plus fov! We need both for that truly immersive experience!

@Jester123ish

2 жыл бұрын

Probably about the price....

@dark_xdark132

2 жыл бұрын

Big companies will not use immature solutions，pimax is just an experimental product

@BalkanBiker

2 жыл бұрын

Sound is actually as important if not more for immersion.

@BFMwithStackhouse

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo

@BFMwithStackhouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@BalkanBiker yes but sound doesn't need to really be tackled by the VR company imo. Stereo sound handled on default windows drivers is more than capable of offering incredibly immersive experiences.

When you transitioned to the Visual segment, it took me until the little headset movement for me to realize that we are looking through the lenses. My goodness, that is mad clear.

@mixedrealityTV

2 жыл бұрын

It is!

For those wishing to know about using glasses this is the answer from Varjo "So yes with our headsets you can wear your glasses however not all glasses fit. For instance I have a really wide pair on lenses on one set of frames and can't use them comfortably in the headset however my other pair with standard frames fits just fine."

If I had the money I'd order one right now. Truly awesome, Varjo.

A very professionally produced review, thank's for sharing. I'm ordering my one tonight and have already sold my G2. Knew I would, can't wait.

@ArchivedTony

2 жыл бұрын

How big of an issue was the audio? The microphone and headphone quality is the only thing making me hesitant about buying this headset, I have a microphone and headphone thing that I can connect to my headset but it requires an USB port to plug in, is there one available? Deciding between this and the valve index, if u respond thank you very much it’s very appreciated 🙏😄

Thanks Sebastian. Love your work. Keep it up. Hoping for a reasonably priced Varjo with inside out tracking.

great video review! well structured, super tidy and informative, great references - a pleasure to watch and... to follow your opinion and buy the set (Aero has just been ordered :) ) - Thank you!

Can't wait! As always, great content, thank you!

No being AMD GPU compatible has killed this headset for me, I'll stick with HP Reverb G2

@Holret

2 жыл бұрын

I got a 6900 Xt for nothing.

@buikhan

2 жыл бұрын

How much is the G2?

@deckersolo9045

2 жыл бұрын

@@buikhan Depends where you live check Amazon

@shuflie

2 жыл бұрын

@@Holret Where do you get one of those for nothing, my bog standard 6800 cost me £600.

@CHIM3RA.

2 жыл бұрын

@@shuflie you don't understand he's simply saying he got the graphics card but it's not supported for the ultimate VR headset which means it's worthless owning it for himself.

Thanks for the honest review! Always citing the good and the bad, I'm glad you're keeping it real :)

@mixedrealityTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

At 2400 €+ I'd expect 120Hz, 100+ FoV, better audio/microphone solution, internal tracking and wireless functionality ON TOP of their slightly better visuals. Removing their human eye resolution field killed it for me, not even the ridiculous orice, they claim to be consumer oriented...

@635574

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe in the next gen the displays will be so much better it wont make sense in gen 2. If it was any other company this price would be unacceptable even with the eye tracking and micro led backlight.

@Venlabax

2 жыл бұрын

They have 200Hz... Am I wrong?

@privileguan9127

2 жыл бұрын

@635574 next gen doesn't matter. Only thing that matters is what they offer now for the asking price. And it is pretty bad compared to Oculus Quest, the soon coming Quest Pro, Lynx headset and multiple competitors. It is not IF it was another company, but BECAUSE it is this company. Getting rid of the most impressive resolution feature and still demanding the extra premium price is absurd. @Przemek I read it is 90Hz (in another comment). But even if it had 200Hz refresh rate the price wouldn't be justified imo. It is like an apple product but with far worse specs compared to what they ask for in return. Consumer market? All they did was sell a more widely accepted version of their 3rd gen without anual subscription fees..

Wow, cool that the embargo lifts before the launch 🤪 go European XR companies!! 🥳🥳 lynx and varjo ❤

@ThorvaldsenCZ

2 жыл бұрын

What about VRGineers and their XTAL? They're European (Czech) too :)

@jh5kl

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThorvaldsenCZ go Czech Republic 💪💪👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤

Great review, thanks! One Varjo Aero has already been ordered and I am looking very much forward to trying out an Aero soon at the local Varjo office here in Oslo, Norway!

I am so in market for next gen VR! Cant wait till video release!

Great video, I have my Varjo Aero with base stations coming in this week, it's been a long time since I have been this excited about a product. Thanks again for your helpful content.

Sebastian. Subscribed based on how well this informative review was. Truly amazing! Also, given that my system is a beast, combined with your thorough coverage of the Aero, I just ordered it. I also had to get the base stations. Gulp.

@mixedrealityTV

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Camil, so glad to have you here! You will love the device!

Top quality review. Thank you!

Very exciting!

Awesome. Nice work Sebastian! 🍺

It's amazing showcase for what the future of consumer VR will look like. In the past every advance one company has made has been copied by others, so I have no doubt most of this stuff will be available for fraction of the cost in a year or two and might even because standard for VR in not too distant future. Thank you Varjo for an amazing opening and pretty much single-handedly showing that we can finally say 2nd generation of consumer VR is here!

@SmartMoveGraphics

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@FunLion

2 жыл бұрын

I wish but I highly doubt it. The premium segment will stay premium for quite a while. The average consumer isn’t enthusiastic enough to care about Mini LEDs and ultra high resolutions. Especially with the current hardware shortages, the system required to run this headset will probably cost too much to be considered standard anyway. Mobile processors won’t be fast enough. If you want to get this high quality you better start to save some money. That’s what I’ll do.

@yesyes-om1po

Жыл бұрын

mini leds aren't a VR innovation, all of the display technology comes from the display industry and TVs. lenses could be copied but there are downsides to each of these technologies. foveated rendering is something that can be hard to implement well, eye tracking is expensive to start off with and requires R&D because obviously varjo won't just give their tracking algorithm and code out for their competitors. This tech will not likely be standard for the next 3-5 years.

Can I use base station 1 with this Varjo? Or does it have to be base station 2? In an earlier version, much earlier, they said that it had to be Base station 2, and four of those as well. that was from Mike at VR oasis when he found one of the earlier version

Can't wait, exciting times

Goat headset but I kind of wished it didn’t have automatic IPD adjustment it just feels like over engineering and wonder on how much weight and price could be knocked off by doing so!

@metalsteel5631

2 жыл бұрын

yea they could've definitely done without the automatic IPD adjustment. would probably have knocked it down by 300 bucks or so.

@ions7581

2 жыл бұрын

I think their lens software might require automatic ipd adjustment. If your eyes are not in a perfect position, perhaps the antidistortion wont work.

@williamgeorge5049

2 жыл бұрын

What concerns me with the automatic IPD adjustment is more moving parts to malfunction or break.

@giglioflex

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's definitely cool but would much rather prefer a lighter headset.

@turkkaloimisto1558

2 жыл бұрын

It's not always so simple: for a smaller company, branching too many features from the product line and software may end up costing more at first.

Is there something in the software for adjusting for prescriptions (people who wear glasses), otherwise, those people will have to wait for prescription inserts manufacturers to make some for this HMD, and from my experience with Inserts, they will reduce the FOV by a little bit and add just a little glare (light bouncing between the HMD lenses and the inserts). Very much looking forward to Varifocal lenses! :)

Excellent review and product walkthrough! I just ordered my headset so won't get my hands on it for 3-4 months, but I can't wait. The one thing you touched on that I hadn't heard and that surprised me is the strap sizing. I have a big head (big brain, duh 😋). I just hope I can squeeze into this thing because it looks amazing. I WILL make it fit, damn it...even if it requires a trip to Home Depot. Haha

Hi Sebastian, sorry for the naïve question, but Varjo Aero has natively the Z axis for the backward and foreward movements of the head, or does it need some additional base station like the first pimax? Since I only do flight simulation, I'm not interested in touch controls... Thank you.

I was considering the Reverb G2 but you said in this video that you only got 28 fps with it and you have a 3080. I mainly use my headset (Rift) for iRacing and was leaning towards the Reverb G2 because of the image quality (and price) as I'd value image quality a bit more than FOV/higher FPS in the Valve Index. But with that said I have a 2070 Super and would want much higher FPS than 30 for iRacing. Do I stick with my Rift until I can get a 3080 or better? Or get the Reverb G2 and sacrifice FPS until I can source a new graphics card?

Waiting curiously for your video!

Just to be clear does this fix the near focus problem which varifocal was meant to do? It sure does looks like it when you look near your hand in the hl alyx in the video.. It seems a lot more details than reverb g2 or any other vr headset.

at 5:15(and almost every picture) what are these 2-3 diagonal black shadows spreading across the screen? i recognised this at the varjovr3/g2/8kx comparison video too? are these permanent or is it just from capturing the video?

Ooooooh baby!!! I want one of these! What a pleasure! I’ll have to get my brother to buy himself one when it launches so I can visit him every day! Lol

@SmartMoveGraphics

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

O no i'm gonna be so tempted by this headset! I really need to wait and see what valve is doing tho!!! I don't see a wire but it has to be wired right?

Isn't only 35ppd only half the clarity of the vr3 (that has 70ppd) and therefore no longer human eye resolution? How does the clarity compare between the two in reality? I think I'd have preferred true human eye resolution and lost the auto ipd..Thank you

Thanks for the review!!! 🙏

I wonder how long we will have to wait to be able to buy this new varjo hmd?

Hi, Can I use it for simracing without basestation and controllers? I use Reverb G2 for iracing with 3080 but I can’t use 100% SS in steam VR at some track. Its very interesting you achieved more score with Varjo at open vr benchmark then G2.

I just ordered mine. Great job Varjo! You listened to the consumers!

@wallahawk1078

2 жыл бұрын

How is it?

I have the original HTC Vive controllers and base station collecting dust in a closet, will I be able to use those with this unit? If so I may consider purchasing. Thanks!

How does the clarity compare to the Varjo VR3? I am concerned about seeing objects in the distance in games..

So without hand tracking how do I click on the buttons in my virtual cockpit of my aircraft???

Awesome review, thank you. If I'm only using it for MSFS2020, and dont use controllers on my G2, do I need the controllers?

will the aero work with 3rd party non-steam games? for example dancexr? or non-steam elite dangerous?

So hyped for the vrajio headset 👏🏾

@lonewolfsky4816

2 жыл бұрын

LOL if it's a pimax 9kx

@DKTronics70

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonewolfsky4816 Pimax have their own announcement on the 25th October, on KZread.

@Cazanu417

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonewolfsky4816 tbh im more excited about that they ruined me with their 160 horizontal fov on my 8kx,i cant go back to 100 fov it looks like im watching trough a binocular

@Sofian375

2 жыл бұрын

Yea just wait for the price...

@bobdole2184

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cazanu417 that is the reason I avoided them lol 😂

Would you consider it possible to replace a couple of displays with this?

Your video pushed me over the edge to get this headset. I've been on the fence about this one for a few days, but your through the lens view finally gave me the information I was looking for to make my decision. Yeah, the visuals are what I'm after. If I upgrade again it will be when this visual fidelity also gains the FOV of a PiMax. Not having headphones is actually a plus for me because I always prefer my own headphones. And I don't care about hand tracking as what I would be using this for will be using HOTAS anyway.

Amazing vajro has done it again and has made an amazing headset! Persoonally I was hoping it would be cheaper but I understand why it wasn't. Unfortunatly it's probs going to be a while before I get to try retena level clarity because I just don't have the money to drop on a 2000 dollar headset, but I would if I did.

Great review

So I still need to have/purchase the base stations and controllers separately/additionally?

@DFX2KX

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. like buying a Pimax (except that Pimax also sells base stations with their headsets if you want them I think)

I like it, I like it a lot, I just wish someone would come along with this in a wide FOV format aside from Pimax. I feel it would be an instant buy.

@TonyDrecaps

2 жыл бұрын

Same. No interest at all in these low FOVs. Deal breaker every time. Needs to be 150°+

@lippeszabolcs1

2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyDrecaps i think that would be the next step for the next 1-2 years... I am waiting for it as well

@TonyDrecaps

2 жыл бұрын

@@lippeszabolcs1 I hope so! Been waiting so long

I'm so glad I'm saving and putting away a budget for computers and gadgets like this. I will buy this direct when it hits the market :)

Absolutely amazing!

Thx a lot for all your video its +1 for me

Great review! How is the FOV compared to the Vive Pro 2? And the specs say there are fans in this unit. Did you try any active VR titles? Wondering if the fans help with fogging or if they only help cool the screens.

Thank you Sebastion for such detailed and in-depth review! I'm so hyped up about Varjo ! Varjo, shut up and take my money! But first... need to upgrade my CPU/GPU rig again!!! Dang! :D

Heyo, two things i'd really like to see you do with this headset. 1 - Test out the VR-Ears with it, as this seems like a perfect headset for it. 2 - Do a through the lens comparison with the VR-3, so that we can actually see what we are missing from not getting the focus displays. (especially the vision test in the hmdtest enviroment)

@buzzow

2 жыл бұрын

I guess VR Ears don't have the right attachment for this strap. Anyway that's a nice solution for headphones, but not for mic.

@HyperSlayer72

2 жыл бұрын

@@buzzow there actually is a boom mic attachment offered with the VR ears. Also the rubber inserts that come with the VR ears are pretty much Universal. You could definitely get it attached.

@buzzow

2 жыл бұрын

@@HyperSlayer72 Hum! That sounds nice. Then yes, it would be pretty interesting some tests.

Looks great, however if I jump from my VP2 (which I’m a fan of), I lose wireless and my head strap/audio comfort. Damn. Can my senheiser in ear momentum 2 blue tooth’s work or have to be wired? Hmmmm I think I’ll wait until Index 2 to make a decision!

@BB-qp5xo

2 жыл бұрын

@Marco Bruckner no I don’t think it’s worth it for me. No audio or wireless doesn’t make this headset worth it for what we have IMO. SEB on MRTV does a great review on the website advising people if it’s worth upgrading depending on which headset you have.

@BB-qp5xo

2 жыл бұрын

@@fenriswolf-always-forward SEB, auto correct. Sorry!

@TheUkrapster

2 жыл бұрын

@Marco Bruckner *Mini LED panels

this is an off topic question. Since the G2 earphone sit away from the ears, do they make ear cushions for the HP reverb G2 headset??

@bobdole2184

2 жыл бұрын

No same headphones of the index

@WDMurphy

2 жыл бұрын

If you do not mind me asking, why would you need them?

@brucewayne4211

2 жыл бұрын

@@WDMurphy to enhance the sound. with out the earphone cushions you get too much ambient noise.

@WDMurphy

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucewayne4211 ok lol I get it, me being in a really quiet environment it just skipped my mind.

Ordered mine before the Live Stream. No regrets! Looking forward to this for a long time now.

@highaltitude787

2 жыл бұрын

Same

I have a Varjo XR-3, and I agree with everything said about the headstrap - it's my biggest physical complaint about the device, it's really hard to get comfortable (though, this headset is quite a bit lighter than the XR-3, which should help). The visuals are sheer amazeballs, my virtual desktop looks like a *real physical monitor*, but of course, my headset has that focus display which makes it even higher resolution where you are looking.

@stuperprohero

2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried a Pimax 8K? Curious if the lower FOV is a big enough turnoff to choose one over the other.

Sebastian, I need to know if this will work with iracing. Have you tried this with iracing?

Had the opportunity to work with their customer service group. Fantastic in all respects.

Please make a direct comparison to G2! I just got my G2 to finally work after an extremely frustrating year of calling tech-support over and over. And I’m wondering if I should’ve just gotten this now that I have a 3090 😆

@BoltRM

2 жыл бұрын

Are you a multimillionaire?

Thanks for the video! I am very tempted to get one but I have three things that I am not so sure about... 1) the audio solution is a turn off. I can live with it but would definitely prefer a great built-in solution. 2) the refresh rate. As an index user I am super bummed to have only one refresh rate available. I would at the very least like to have a 120 hz mode so I can run that with reprojection always on, so the expected performance issues are not so bad any more. 3) my absolute main issue is that I cannot use a headset without inlay lenses. No way in hell I will use such an expensive device with glasses. No chance. If I play a game like thrill of the fight with intense head movement, I cannot imagine that the glasses will not scratch the lenses. I have no idea if there will be some available but it is a pity that varjo didn't comment on this point... It is a no compromise headset that is more or less exclusive to people with perfect eyesight or games without much head movement :( I'd love to hear your thoughts on this!

Just put in my order! although I do wish it had vive pro 2 level of FOV the displays seem like they will easily make up for that. upgrading from a reverb g2

Can you tell me if this supports steam eye tracking sdk? I think it's called SRandipal

Looks good but that FOV is still terrible when compared with the Pimax 8KX. What it does have going for it is the auto IPD adjustment and the lenses but is that worth ditching my Pimax? At this point I’m not convinced.

I'd love to have it, but I dont know when I'll actually be able to use it. I still need to upgrade my graphics card before I can use a premium headset like this. And with graphics card prices showing no signs of coming back down, I dont see it happening anytime soon 🙁

So, thanks for the excellent review, but where do I buy controllers? I see the Varjo site offers base stations, but not controllers??? Thanks 👍

what about eye tracking ? did this improve performances ?

Yes, I will buy it, they are my dream came true 😍

Thanks for the review!! I was so excited about a consumer version of the Varjo, but this price and feature point was a big disappointment. The display look amazing, and I'd even have considered paying for it if there was nothing else that needed to be added, but it's already at an extreme price without having to buy the required extras.

@turkkaloimisto1558

2 жыл бұрын

Well it was obvious that this level of visuals would be super expensive. I'm lucky to already have great audio to go with this. Just need those controllers, but Steam controllers were the best anyway.

@BoltRM

2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping in $1000 range for consumers. 🤨

@Jester123ish

2 жыл бұрын

It's the initial release, later models will have the other things sorted.

I am really thinking about getting it. Currently working with HTC Vive with HTC base stations and original HTC controllers. Assuming I will need to upgrade? I would like to get Value Index controllers, seems to work great with this.

I already said I will not buy another headset after the G2 unless it has a at least a 140 FOV. This 100 FOV shit is not going to cut it anymore.

What do those 2 buttons on the side of the headset do?

For me the lack of integrated audio, something like what the Index offers, is a HUGE letdown. I'd be willing to pay the price if it was included even though it is quite expensive considering it needs external sensors which are not included, same as controllers. But the thing that worries me the most is prescription lens adapters, will it be possible to use those or would they interfere with the eye tracking system? I really don't want to use glasses, i've been playing with adapters for all my headsets for years now and having to go back to spectacles would be a big step down. Also how is the FOV compared to the Index?? I've read it's quite small, similar to the G2, which would be another reason not to get it.

@turkkaloimisto1558

2 жыл бұрын

There are third party solutions. I actually prefer not to pay for audio along with the headset as I have great audio ready to go.

Will it work without a gaming PC ? and on MAC ?

Thank you for the review. It's tempting, but I'll wait what Steam is going to present us for a lower price for a Index 2 and with that great audio solution of the actual index

Damm those lenses and visuals are insane

What's the difference between this one and Pimax 8K X?

Very tempting but I can't help but suspect the next six months are going to bring something equivalent or better at a much cheaper price. How are the visuals of the Aero versus the Arpara 5K?

How about wearing glasses on the Varjo? Any problems?

0:42 - so how do Enterprise users run this display? Are there actually more powerfull GPU's? I though that the top end Quadro gpu's or whatever they are called, aren't better at realtime rendering.

Hello, first of all, thank you for all your good work 😉 Please let me know when you use this VR headset only for Flight and Race simulation, if we need base station and controllers? Thank you very much 😊

My fear with this headset is that i am prone to motion sickness but with my index running at 120hz solid i feel fine in all my games 90 hz im still okay but much prefer 120hz. with the native clarity of the Aero i suspect there is no need for super sampling. Assuming that's the case, do you find yourself, even with a 3080 GPU and 10900K + cpu 32gb ram at 3200mhz do you need to constantly make concessions to games to not run into reprojection at say at least 90hz? in your clip i saw HLA running under 80!

For sims can you only use 1 base station?

cant wait

HERE WE GO. Woop woop give us OLEDS :)

I knew i'm right with my feelings! ;D Now let's see what they have for us.

Very complete as usual! Well done, Sir! I still cannot afford the new king, unfortunately😕

I'm so glad I watched this, I almost wrote it off after Thrillseeker's review, you were much more thorough. It's a good sign of things to come for the consumer market.

Does the foveated rendering work with all products out of the box?

@fatality7674

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and Santa is real.

Will you be trying the VR Ears with the Aero to see if it is a viable option for audio solution ?

@mixedrealityTV

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@williamgeorge5049

2 жыл бұрын

@@mixedrealityTV GREAT !!

Does the software still cost as much monthly??