Van Buren: The Lost Fallout 3
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Back in 2003, Interplay would finally pull the plug on Fallout 3. Code named Van Buren at the time. This version of Fallout 3 was pretty fleshed out, and by 2007, over 700 documents and a tech demo had been released related to Van Buren. The Lost Fallout 3.
Van Buren: The Lost Fallout 3
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@afro_souledits2382
4 жыл бұрын
Fallout OG music never gets old
@GmGTrials
4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, your Joshua Graham video is gone. Sucks bc I really enjoyed that video
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
@@GmGTrials Thanks for letting me know. I had an accident with unlisting a bunch of videos. It will be back up ASAP!
@GmGTrials
4 жыл бұрын
@@TKsMantis thanks man! As soon as it goes back up I'll add it back to my favorites list😁. Thanks for the quality content
fallout fans: were you killed interplay: sadly yes Obsidian Entertainment: but i lived
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
dbl post, nice
@starpaladingoldbug2282
4 жыл бұрын
@@TKsMantis why in the sam hell did youtube repeat my comment im gonna fix it
@megamike15
4 жыл бұрын
and then died again.
@HaxyShark
4 жыл бұрын
@@megamike15 just cant get a break can they
@thecollector4332
4 жыл бұрын
megamike15 But they are still making games.
Gotta say van buren story sounds pretty damn cool, the ammount of different speech options around telling poeple if you have the flu would be crazy im sure
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
YES. It is a shame.
@KingRumar
4 жыл бұрын
You can feel very subtle ideas actually used in new vegas as well. Chasing after the guy with nukes and ultimately getting to decide on which faction you wish to drop them on is in Lonesome Road, just not in a space station (outer worlds anyone)
@darken2417
4 жыл бұрын
-Insert Corona-chan joke here-
@primuspilusfellatus6501
4 жыл бұрын
@@KingRumar not subtly actually, alot from Van Buren made it into new vegas. I believe the legion and remnants are both originaly from van buren
@einlosen
4 жыл бұрын
[Speech 30] *Cough violently on them*
I do find it funny how Interplay planned on making an Online Fallout and Bethesda did it almost a decade and a half later
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
That's why Interplay got rekt about the MMO they were making because even back then, an online Fallout was in their mind. I feel like they waited to see how it could become financially viable.
@jordanboyd5587
4 жыл бұрын
I bet Interplay would've made a better online experience than Bethesda did.
@TactaGhoul
4 жыл бұрын
@@jordanboyd5587 Nobody liked the multiplayer mode in Fallout Tactics either, most of the player base wants an RPG not a battle royale.
@digitalcthulhu143
4 жыл бұрын
@@jordanboyd5587 That's not a very high bar let's be honest.
@moonprincess_xoxo
4 жыл бұрын
@@TactaGhoul who says fallout online was meant to be a battle royale? it most likely was just a mmo rpg
Wasn't the new plague in fallout 4 for macready's companion quest
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, his son seemed to have it. Same with the swamp folk in Point Lookout.
@rifleshooterchannel208
4 жыл бұрын
And explains why there is Chinese Stealth Armor in New Vegas.
@zudahkai94
4 жыл бұрын
I hope fallout 1 and 2 can be on consoles
@Zeon081
4 жыл бұрын
@@zudahkai94 what for?
@alfredosauce4476
4 жыл бұрын
@@zudahkai94 lmao yea just play it on pc idk howd it work on console anyway litterly any computer can run 1 and 2
Van Burens story sounds sick
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY.... because of the Blue Flu.
@vanceunpingco7767
4 жыл бұрын
TKs-Mantis dang it i was gonna say literally but you beat me
@tlesko3921
4 жыл бұрын
ItsJustCris lot of nv story comes from it
@Gaardieen
4 жыл бұрын
Brotherhood of Steel 2 would have been awesome. I've read through the ideas for BOS2 so many times I've lost count.
@userisdeadandarchived2995
4 жыл бұрын
so sick if it ever got completed you'll get corona
I would love to have played this
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
NICE NAME AND PROFILE PIC DUDE! Damn! Yeah me too.
@metalslinky4582
3 жыл бұрын
Wheres Max and Natalia when you need them
I was really scared when you said your sponsor...for a second I was expecting to hear Nord VPN or Raid lol
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
ITS YOUR BOY! RAID SHADOW LEGENDS! Nah, I would only accept an ad offer from something I actually use. I have used Filmora for 5+ years, so I legit recommend it.
@dearleader8163
4 жыл бұрын
Nord is ok raid just sucks
@phoenixzappa7366
4 жыл бұрын
Raid Shadow Legends is the most AMBITIOUS role playing game
@waltar2333
4 жыл бұрын
@@dearleader8163 It is the dear leader Jim Pickens
@dearleader8163
4 жыл бұрын
Sal Volcano Yes. B O R E R A G N A R O K
Ironically, the game would have started with an Elder Scrolls trope.
@laserdiscisawesome1263
3 жыл бұрын
Hey you, you’re finally awake. Walked right into that NCR ambush
@riperiver
3 жыл бұрын
@@laserdiscisawesome1263 Same as us, and that courier over there
@phohecks6046
3 жыл бұрын
@@riperiver Damn you Legionaries! California was fine until you came along, NCR was nice and lazy.
@rojaws1183
2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a lone wanderer like you before I took a radscorpion sting to the knee.
@rawrdino7046
2 жыл бұрын
That's with Bethesda reusing intros? Since they had their hands on fallout you always start as a vault dweller.
TFW the new plague is Corona
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got big vibes while reading through that stuff.
@KingRumar
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, traveling adventurers only able to travel around AFTER they get the virus regardless if knowingly is a creepy parallel
@kajtekii4666
4 жыл бұрын
Bob Page: Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator. Walton Simons: I take it he was agreeable? Page: He didn't really have a choice. Simons: Has he been infected? Page: Ah yes, most certainly. When I mentioned we could put him on the priority list for the Ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic. Simons: This plague - the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it. Page: Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches. Let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.
@litchtheshinigami8936
4 жыл бұрын
Anthony DeCrescio i doubt that.. fallout is supposed to be an alternate universe
@mosquesock450
3 жыл бұрын
@kyle rudosz That hit different
fallout van buren from my eyes was meant to be a superior to the last fallouts and it had so much so much thats its a shame it got cancelled the last second but i know theres someone making the game in unity3d engine and its alive !
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have covered the project in a video before. Adam Lacko. I hope he makes the dream come alive!
@JollyOldCanuck
4 жыл бұрын
@@TKsMantis Just finished fallout 1 for the second time and half-way through fallout 2. Is tactics worth playing or can I safely skip it?
@gluesnifferr
4 жыл бұрын
@@JollyOldCanuck I say play it, it's pretty good might take a little bit of time getting use to the different gameplay, but definatly a good play!
@awesomechainsaw
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah though the issue is that we don’t know what the final product would have looked like. I mean fallout 4 was supposed to have some sort of underwater combat or level. They got cut. Parts of this story and their plans might have been forced to be cut back. Comparing what they wanted to do to with what is possible is somewhat unfair.
@Cacowninja
3 жыл бұрын
Is the person developing it an official developer? Like someone from a company with official rights to the game?
This sounds like the plot of 2021
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@josue_mejia
3 жыл бұрын
4th day, still alive.
Me: Mantis how many more videos are you gonna do on Van Buren? Mantis: *200,000 videos are ready, with a million more well on the way.*
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
I’ve seen hundreds of Fallout videos, but I just can’t F@$&ing help myself. Hearing someone talk about Van Buren is worth the time, even if I already know the information.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Well Thank you for watching!
Good job being active in the comments. Me and my friends are making a table top Fallout game on Discord.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. That's awesome, I use to play a Fallout PnP on Teamspeak.
@scuderiatororosso1422
4 жыл бұрын
It’s set in Denver, and we’re making our own lore as well as borrowing a little bit from Van Buren.
@holo7070
4 жыл бұрын
Oreo Jones That sounds pog I hope you had fun
@scuderiatororosso1422
4 жыл бұрын
We did indeed
@henry7486
4 жыл бұрын
Idk what you mean by table top FO game, but good luck
6:55 Not long until we have FEV and a Great War with China. With each passing year Fallout becomes more of a reality lol
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Seems like it.
@arx3516
4 жыл бұрын
We still need our power armors though...
@stopefinaround
4 жыл бұрын
Especially with MAGA essentially being this nostalgia for the 1950's lol
@zahylon5993
4 жыл бұрын
Fallout : Origins. A real life rpg.
@shiteyanyo1111
4 жыл бұрын
I saw an article where some eccentric millionaires were planning on building vaults in reaction to covid. CRAZY
It would be cool to see Bethesda create a Fallout in the Four States Commonwealth. As unlikely as it may be.
@wyatthill6252
4 жыл бұрын
Id be highly skeptical of ANYTHING Bethesda makes at this point.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is impossible.
@michaelflorian1013
4 жыл бұрын
TKs-Mantis yeah but we all know Bethesda just LOVES their east coast
@SatanasExMachina
2 жыл бұрын
@@TKsMantis As long as it just works.
@NurseAmamiya
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelflorian1013 it goes both ways with Interplay/Black Isle and their west coast
Holy Covid-19
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
*coughs in infected*
@cootersnooter3059
4 жыл бұрын
TKs-Mantis the blue flu!
@regisphilbinsscrotum6631
4 жыл бұрын
China virus. EU in disarray If china invades Alaska then we know what comes next...fallout timeline was a prophecy!
@rifleshooterchannel208
4 жыл бұрын
*Wuhan* Flu. Never forget who did this to us.
@darken2417
4 жыл бұрын
Corona-chan only wanted to give everyone a nice long vacation... for some a never ending vacation...
Love these retrospective type videos!
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@huntercampbell6551
4 жыл бұрын
Talentless writer
Do you think Van Buren will come back in way or something with the "falling" of Bethesda?
@Sandderad
4 жыл бұрын
New Vegas was the closest thing.
Wow Caesar’s Legion was proposed as a Faction this long ago, that’s awesome!
@pariahlord3540
Ай бұрын
When this was proposed, it was only 7 years from then that Fallout new Vegas came out. Now, it's almost 14 years since new Vegas came out
Ive herd and seen so many people and small groups who tried to attempt to make fallout Van Buren and each time they started it just like all the others spent very little time on it and when they realize "oh shit this is harder than i thought" and bail on it completely and leave the pieces for the next person to pick up and do the same thing. Which im surprised that stuff like fallout 3 is getting remade along with fallout 2 but van buren, its like a curse for some reason like it refuses to be made, so far at least to my knowledge at least 11 people tried and failed to get the project going. Now all we can do is wait till this curse finally breaks or continues on its next victim.
" I used to be a raider like you until I took a knife to the knee cap" 4:03
Interplay: gives Bethesda fallout Interplay: *dies* Bethesda years later: oops *makes fallout 76*
@mgm-jt8nd
3 жыл бұрын
f*ck fallout 76
I like fallout 3 but I would like to see what van buren could have been but ideally i love to see both games
It looks at least 30% done.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
agreed
I would love to play a finished version of this game that we can all play. I need more fallout in my life
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
More Fallout is good Fallout
@ruspotter2037
2 жыл бұрын
Looked hideous
Just recently started binging your videos & I gotta say your content is excellent bro, very informative and entertaining, keep up the good work👌
Van Buren sounds kinda cool! I would love to see it fully completed, and I'm sure many other fallout fans would too
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people would love to play this.
@RangerDanger9396
4 жыл бұрын
@@TKsMantis If VB ends up being finished by someone, and if NV is more or less interplays Fallout 4, it'd make kind of a cool "Choose your own timeline" for the fallout games
good looking out giving Retcon Raider a shout out.. his design doc series is excellent.. thanks for this video Mantis
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
The best coverage on KZread imo
Yay! Content!
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! More on the way!
1:15 I use filmora 9, it’s great except one small thing, the exporting is eh.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
I have a few problems with hang-ups at the start of exporting sometimes. After it starts I don't have a problem. Superfast since I got my new PC. On my old PC with Filmora 8, I had some pretty long exports, but I attribute that to CPU.
@TrayTerra
4 жыл бұрын
TKs-Mantis usually takes a couple exports for me, about halfway on the first attempt it almost always stalls at about 50% so I have to cancel and do it over, otherwise it’s fantastic. One other very small export related issue is the projected export information, for example most of the time it will say the video should be gigs in size but they end up merely a few hundred megabytes upon completion, but that’s really not so much of an issue at all, just odd really lol.
When i saw the maps from previous fallouts i wish bethesda made larger fallout maps 😭
@HelheimMudkip
4 жыл бұрын
Yesss I wanted to screenshot that honestly its visually satisfying
@colbyboucher6391
2 жыл бұрын
Granted, that wasn't all "rendered" map. You just had set locations and would "fast travel" between them with random encounters in-between.
The story sounds good IMO. This should be Fallout 5.
@skefsongames
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt want Bethesda to touch it and ruin it with their atrocious game design
@r0cketm4n34
Жыл бұрын
@@skefsongames i doesnt have to be bethesda it would just be the fallout 4 engine
6:56 OH NO
@justadeer2660
4 жыл бұрын
Mighty familiar
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my eyes got wider and wider as I was reading about the New Plague. o.O
@justadeer2660
4 жыл бұрын
@@TKsMantis the canon is out of balance. This is supposed to be the year mr.house is born but instead it's the year of the blue flu
@vinylsketch
4 жыл бұрын
Just A Deer You’re pretty close, Robert House was born in 2025
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
@@justadeer2660 June 25, 2020
Van buren is def wayy darker and more in line with what I would expect from a fallout game, not Ohh my daddy is gone, or oh no my wife is dead and my son is gone.
@I.am.the.norseman
3 жыл бұрын
How are 3 and 4 not dark?
@Persephone01
3 жыл бұрын
I just don't like those types of quests but at least in 3 it made sense to me. But I might replay 3 as I'm just replaying 2 at the moment. I'm just not that much of a fan of 4 with the main quest, some of the side quests I don't mind at all and are enjoyable.
great video man, I really wish Van Buren would be made into a game I like how it wraps together the whole story and includes the precursors to New Vegas
This is a really good video honestly. I’ve never been very interested in Van Buren but this changed that.
Would love to see a mod team like Fallout 4: New Vegas take up this and craft the game from the design documents, I’d definitely play it hahah
@Gyrfalcon312
3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, damn, that would be great. The progress vids on F4NV have me hyped, and their partners working on F4: Capital Wasteland also show that same passion and technical know-how. Their rendition of _Van Buren_ could well be the next project. Fingers crossed.
03:12 Yoooooooo, my man, Fallout Tactics IS severely underrated in the series! I agree with you 100%! God the amount of hours I spent on that game just in the Multiplayer function with GameSpyArcade... the memories... and I REALLY loved the campaign. And this is coming from someone who loved Fallout 1 and 2 literally to death in the hundreds of hours I've spent on both those games over the years. I was also really surprised to learn that they had planned a Fallout Tactics 2! I couldn't even imagine how that would have turned out
"Not only are we sick with the blue flu, but we have also spread it around to every location we have visited." What an appropriate storyline in March 2020.
I just really like your content it's always so good
What Interplay needs to do to make a rumbling, market-shaking return is create a fully realized true to from successor to everyone’s favorite classic game, Earthworm Jim.
@GlitterGothBunny
4 жыл бұрын
Omg I didnt know anyone else even knew this game existed. My older brother loved that cartoon and had it.
Always love learning more about Van Buren.
Torn Van Buren Baldur's Gate III (Not Larian's) So many promising games killed before their time. Lionheart is the closest thing we have to what Van Buren probably would've ran like even though that game was also rushed to be released before it could fully realized... but at least it got a release.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
It is always sad to not see the stories we are excited for.
Another spectacular video
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
Love the video mantis, I did quite a bit of research on the subject myself. I would’ve much preferred this to the Fallout 3 we got
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
I like Fallout 3 as we have it now, but I would have loved to play through this.
Theres a fan made Project on this game in an improved fallout 2 engine i worked in for some time. The Project was huge and its done 60% orr so at the time.
congrats for the sponsor! the plot sounds so scary specially this times
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend and I agree about the plot.
0:53 me leaving the crime scene after commuting 3 counts of aggravated assault
Great video!
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
when I first discovered about this game I really got obsessed with it, it's so interesting.
Van Buuren story sounds absolutely amazing. I wish Bethesda never bought rights to the Fallout franchise and Interplay continued working on it or at least same devs under a new company.
With all this stuff going on with COVID-19, do you think this will have a major effect on the release of Wastelanders?
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
It for sure could. Everything seems to be taking a break and staying home. It seems like the common thought is until around the second week of April. So it could have an effect. I just hope everyone, including the people at Bethesda. Are safe and healthy.
@mftarik1255
4 жыл бұрын
I hope now that most people have to stay at home fan projects like F4:NV progress faster
Dang, Now I want to play it....
What is the title of the background music in the beginning? I know that it's "Maybe" by the ink spots, but I'm trying to find who did a cover of it
I'm running a tabletop RPG based on Van Buren's story. It's so great going through the world that was going to be. Also agreed that Retcon Raider's series is fantastic. This video was awesome too though :D
@jamesmeow3039
7 ай бұрын
What system are you using?
@keeganlubbe2470
7 ай бұрын
@@jamesmeow3039 I was using GURPS. It's quite complicated though so players might prefer something else. If I were to run it again I'd probably use a modified version of D20 Modern.
Always puts my mind at ease to see your vids in these troubling times of china virus and investment chaos
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
We will get through this together brother.
I absolutely love the fallout series especially the first 2 and new Vegas, but hearing this makes me feel a wide array of emotions from, awed to flat out depressed, and hearing what you said about how fallout new Vegas is sort of what interplay/Black Isle fallout 4 was going to be, it made me so depressed knowing that we will never see the interplay fallout series come full circle like it was planned. Sadly even if someone were to piece together van buren and make a full game, something just wouldn’t feel right. I honestly really want to have born into some universe where this actually happened and see just how amazing it could have been.
Holy shit, I have to admit, I've only played the tech demo and looked at some of the leaked stuff + your Joshua Graham Van Buren video. But after watching this video I think Van Buren would've been my favorite fallout game story wise 😍
It always feels like in New Vegas and 4 to a certain extent, that this game is always referenced, I'm hoping they'll make this into a game one day
Holy shit that sounds like a fucking awesome story line for van buren, with the twist being you spread it to everyone you talked to. Damn really wanna see thaat game now
I love that Maybe piano rendition! Is there any place to listen to it? It's very relaxing.
Two van buren projects have my attention, one is a unity 3D version, still in development and going strong, the other is using the fallout 2 engine.
Honestly I'm not hardcore into editing but I have Filmora and love it. No subscription, no bullcrap, buy it and own it.
I don't know if I'd say the tech demo 'leaked'. It was available as a download on the Black Isle website back in the day.
dope video broski
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy!
Supposedly Chris Avellone is working on an overhaul mod for fallout 2 that’s basically Van Buren
@Laozi_Sparta
Ай бұрын
That would be cool. Where did you get that news from?
The prototype of this game works so good I crashed as soon as I almost completed the final quest,too bad that it's so short,too good that you can use commands
I wonder what New Vegas would be like if Van Buren was released AND they had time to fully develop it. It's a masterpiece as it is and I can only dream as to what it could've been
Idk what happened since, but there is a remake of Van Buren being made by the community. I think you mentioned this but idk. Nevertheless, you should try and interview J.E Sawyer/Chris Avellone someday. That'd be the most amazing thing. I'd love to her their thoughts and visions of Van Buren, and New Vegas; that never got out.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
I have reached out to both, but they are busy and probably get a lot of messages. So I have received no reply. I would love to though.
@Rexxie44
4 жыл бұрын
@@TKsMantis Chris is prolly really busy judging that he's freelancing with a few projects, one being Dying Light 2, Not sure on what Sawyer is up to these days. Nevertheless, I seriously do hope one day they'll be open to it. They are total legends.
Now I’m waiting and wondering if our new plague will start giving people blue boils
The plague idea is genius. I love fallout 3 and this tbh. They don’t negate each other really. I hope these ideas get used for a New Vegas 2
Van buren predicted the coronavirus as crazy as it sounds
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Big feels
Obsidian Entertainment - "So we take a cup of new gameplay elements, about five tablespoons of creativity, two pinches of old Van Buren ideas, stir that all together in the Creation Engine mixer, then cook it for about 18 months and BOOM, you got New Vegas.
I would have loved to see Van Buren but I still love FO3
Have always wanted to see a Fallout remake mod in the Divinity: OS2 engine. Maybe it would be a good place for a salty old dev to try and whip up a Van Buren mod. If they could get around IP concerns I would freaking love that.
this fallout three has similar beats to The Outer Worlds. the scientist sounds a lot like Phineas Wells and there's mention of a plague in the first area in the game, Emerald Vale on Terra 2
Someones making Van Buren or at least a fan version. I havent checked for updates inawhile but last I heard they were making progress albeit slowly. Seemed like a pretty small team
Would you consider doing a livestream playing Fonline 2 Or Fonline 3?
Which mod are you using for the New Vegas clip?. The weapon bobbing looks different than vainilla.
I wonder what the original fallout 4 would of been like
God, what I would do to have seen Van Buren fully realized
It’s a shame you don’t get many views compared to other fallout channels, you make really good quality content for your subscriber count.
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
People will watch if they want to. I just feel lucky I am able to make these videos and have the audience I do. Thank you for watching!
I wonder if that giant robot, ARGOS, was the inspiration for Liberty Prime in Bethesda's Fallout 3? Also, the plot of Van Buren reminds me of the James Bond film "Moonraker" with its whole shtick of space weapons purging the Earth and a mad scientist with select chosen people to repopulate it
Joshua would have been an interesting companion and would love more time with him, hes my favourite as well as Marcus. This would have been interesting to see. Rather than being a vault dweller, we are a prisoner which honestly could have worked and would have been interesting. With NV we are a courier with amnesia which is a cool spin on the story. I like some of 3, some side quests and the companions, its not a bad entry, just something different to what we were expecting.
Great video! Where can I read the documents about Van Buren?
@TKsMantis
4 жыл бұрын
Everything that was released has been added to the wiki at this point for easy reading. fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Van_Buren
Is there no way to reverse engineer van buren's engine? You would need that if you were to piece it together or use a new engine and recreate the assets.
Man, when compared to the Fallout 3 we got. Van Buren sounds 10x better!!
It makes me angry that the gunners weren’t talon company in fallout 4, like I understand it wouldn’t be lore friendly but I bet they could have figured it out
I think there may well be a more complete version of Van Burem somewhere or its possible such a version existed at some point. Proper game preservation is still a difficult task today and back in 2003 it was even harder, especially if we're talking about an incomplete game from a company that later sold the IP in question. It's very easy for source code or different game versions to get lost in the shuffle, particularly with common practice from the time period of VB, even big name titles weren't safe. Sega lost the source code for most of their most famous Saturn games which is why they never get rereleased, Konami lost Silent Hill 2 & 3, etc. Also if we consider other cancelled games or different versions of released games, we know many of them exist in some form but have still not seen the light of day. I believe the original version of Half Life is still sitting on a disk one of the devs has but he can't or won't release anything but a picture of said disk, Earthbound 64 was supposedly 75-95% done but it's never been seen outside of screenshots and a trailer, there's other examples like this. So for VB we know Bethesda said they weren't interested in releasing someone else's work when they were asked about completing VB, which I assume also means they have no interest in sharing any unfinished prototypes they may have. This makes sense buisness wise since releasing that would only "distract" from their own fallout releases. Given all this I think it's entirely possible that somewhere out there exists a more complete version of VB either locked away in one of Bethesda's vaults or in some random forgotten box at a VB dev's house that just hasn't been uncovered yet. Or it could be a sadder reality and due to the poor preservation practices from 2003, the near finished version of VB existed but has long since been lost to history, likely never to be seen again.
@iplyrunescape305
3 жыл бұрын
agreed
I would like to see Van Buren in its full fruition
FIRST RELEASE DETONATING EVERYWHERE ! Fallout Yesterday - A free remake of Van Buren in Fallout 2 engine.
I would of loved to see that gaint robot idea in a 3d fallout game, Maybe like gigantic spider Robot that you can hear screaming from miles away
8:00 ish, did you just say Boulder Dome? Are the Boulder Dome mods for FNV pieces of Van Buren remade for FNV? If so I need to download those mods ASAP
Okay, hear me out.... NV machimaxia (no idea how to spell it) with the powder gangers as fellow prisoners, either yes man, victor or ED-E as the robot, Arcade, Elijah, or the Think Tank as the scientist, and the Zion plant vault (29 i think?) fungus as the disease, or mod if possible
Damn that story sounds a million times better than trying to find your dad/son or whatever
@lonneansekishoku8288
Жыл бұрын
Also better than finding the guy who shot you.
That plot is pretty nice. There was guy named Hexer, who tried to recreate Van Burren in the classic Fallout engine but gave up. Then returned with Fallout Yesterday, which is... the same thing? Hope he manage to make it.
“Fallout: EXTREME!” 😆
Damn, _damn_ interesting story potential! I liked _Fallout 3_ the way it is now, but this as the finished Part Three could have resulted in a vastly different experience. I coulda hated it, even. Oh, well. Thanks for an enlightening peek into the game-design process.