VAN BUILD TIP SERIES: Wire splicing with Wago connectors, taken one step further for safety.
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If you are unfamiliar with WAGO connectors, I have a video explaining why I use them exclusively. You can watch that video here: • Van builder makes deci...
In this video, I show you one more step you can take to truly insure the safety of the connection.
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That's another great idea. Humble Road isn't just producing van life vans, but also great ideas.
The Doctor of Van Builds is in the house and his prescription is the solution to Van build headaches. Great tips thanks and keep them coming your “patients” thank you.
Because you don't trust things your product has extra just in case quality. These extra steps sell van jobs. People love that stuff. Keep it up. You're the man
George I appreciate you taking time out your day for these tutorials, I find them educational for a newbie and potential van-person like me.
@Robert-yp9zs
9 ай бұрын
Amen! Most especially for newbies.
Zip ties on the wires to prevent stress on Wago is simple but brilliant solution. Outstanding intel sir. 👍
@ironmartysharpe8293
3 ай бұрын
I do the zip tie trick when I'm using wire nuts and it definitely helps prevent loose connections , What I do first is after stripping the wires , I'll zip tie them together to make it easier to line up the wire ends evenly then twist them together with the lineman's pliers and put on the wire nuts
Very good idea about using zip ties.
George, I have been watching your videos for about a year. Every small detail you pay attention to is something I would also do, or I am very glad to learn from you. The one thing that really gets me every time, is the fact that you give the best customer service there is. I can not believe that I will ever meet somebody like you in my life. You are so pure, you are the guy that I wish was in every store or shop. The guy that will do anything to please his customers and would never let them down. You make something, for somebody, with the purpose that they will never have to come back again. Because what you make, is perfect. But they do come back, because you can make it happen. That alone is priceless.
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you JR. IMHO, I treat people as I would like/expect to be treated. It wasn’t that long ago that most acted the same way.
What a work of art! It is pleasure seeing details of things done right
Try cutting a 3 / 8" to 1/2 " piece of heat shrink . And slide it over the Waco connector. Then srink it to fit tightly ,around the connector. Clean and Snag free.
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
I love the result. But then having to make an edit is a bit if a chore. But for the long haul, it’s the best approach. 👍
@ianmontgomery7534
Жыл бұрын
why not just put insulation tape as is suggested in the video?
"Wago? Wago? We don't need no stinking Wago! We have tape!" LOL I have to fight with the Thai electricians here just to get them to use the wire nuts that I provide to them - they only use electrical tape - for 220 volt connections and splices. Wagos would blow their minds for sure! Fortunately most homes are concrete brick, and ceramic tile construction - fire damage is typically limited to the drapes and furniture. It is always reassuring to learn and see the quality work that you do.
@murphyslaw907
2 жыл бұрын
Where are you building that they wont use wirenuts? Tape alone is not allowed by NEC. And in europe they only use wages and I believe wirenuts are actually banned.
@allenahale1
2 жыл бұрын
@@murphyslaw907 NE Thailand. When I point out such discrepancies to my wife she always reminds me "Thailand not same same Amireeka" I guess "Thailand not same same Europe" is just as true.
I’ve been using electrical tape to secure the wagos, thanks for the zip tie trick.
Thanks for taking the time to share your pearls of wisdom.
Another great video, thank you George. You're a man who takes pride in his work. I would love to have a Van built by you.
George is a very unselfish man who has my respect, and I would say that he loves being a teacher rather he knows it or not. a motto of mine has always been "Sharing is Caring" because there is not a whole lot of this who actually are showing and bringing value to what they are showing you. most videos are a high level and not really clear, George is a great mentor. the question is who is mentoring him?
Fantastic video. Finally one that shows how the Wagos are actually supposed to be used. Thank you sir!
I’m spoiled, and I’m love it❗️😍 … I always catch myself smiling 😊 by the end of your videos. You are the “fine wine” of innovation getting better and better every day. Thanks for another special gem 💎
Nice video and great tip on using zip ties to move the stress points off the connectors. I also find that wrapping the entire end and a few inches down in silicon stretch tape works pretty well too - and that tape can be removed without the sticky residue from the usual vinyl electrical tape.
@HumbleRoad
Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
I appreciate the short videos packed with great tips. Using the small zip tie as a strain relief is something I am going to definitely adopt... I used to snip the ends of my zip ties and suffered from the rips and gouges when working around the wiring harness... then my nephew (an industrial electrician) showed me how to grab the loose end and turn with linesmans pliers. The twist breaks zip tie end off flush with no sharp edges. no more lacerations!
@tradesman63
2 жыл бұрын
Or use flush cuts. Aviation standard.
I find properly crimped, waterproof, heat shrink, but connectors are quicker and strait with no big kink in the wire connection.
I like the combination shrink tube and solder tube you hit with a heat gun. Not reversible, but infallible plus quick and easy.
@hilikus131
2 жыл бұрын
In all the van wireing videos I've see I don't think any of them used solder. I was starting to wonder if there were any reasons soldering connections in a van build would be detrimental over other methods like this one besides what you already pointed out.
@Asbjoern
2 жыл бұрын
@@hilikus131 can probably crack with extended vibrations. Keep in mind I am talking out of my ass. But the most likely reason I can see.
@TomCee53
8 ай бұрын
The other reason I can think of is possible heat damage to other surfaces around the connection.
Such a simple yet great idea for extra safety. Gracias señor.
All good practical advice George as usual, and as with sock suspenders better to be safe than sorry!
We use the heck out of Wagos on a lot projects at our shop. Nothing beats their ability to quickly and reliably connect stranded wire to solid, particularly if the wires are different sizes.
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
I love ‘em!
These video shorts are awesome, George!🤘🏻We know you’re busy busy and these are easier to produce, so time savers for you, yet packed with powerful content for us… And almost all in 1 take! 😉
Thank you so very much for sharing George! Great lesson. 👍❤️
A month ago Wago created a new type of these connectors, they connect straight. Take a look for WAGO 221-2411. They also provide base plates to combine these.
Good job! I like the zip ties reinforcement, what may appear simple, adds so much security keeping the wago connection tight. Putting together my solar rooftop combiner box today, tomorrow install! 🚐
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Triple check every connection!
Thank you so much for sharing your learned knowledge with us. love your tricks!
Good thinking, as always 👍😊💕
Some great tips coming along 😎👍✅
As an IT guy I've learned to hate zip ties. I use a bulk roll of Velcro and cut it to length. That way it's easy to service and puts less stress on my cables.
@TomCee53
8 ай бұрын
I’m in sound and I agree. Velcro ties for temporary and semi-permanent. Nothing is forever.
Nice tips. Thanks!
Short sweet and to the point!!!! Great and informative video sir
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
Thanks George!
Shop looks great.
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Oh Lord! As soon as I deliver Sam’s van, Tumbleweed, I will snap this place into shape. It’s KILLING me to look at this mess!
Belt and Suspenders as always!
I am using Wagos in my build (thanks to you) and now I will be going back to tape and zip tie them all (thanks to you.) I’m glad I’m going slow. Every week you give me a good new tip. I don’t get why you need the Marmaluke BMS on your current Promaster build. Would love you to include this in a future video. I want to nominate you as a national treasure for us DYI van builders.
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the external BMS with the GTX630 . Better control, and scalability for future upgrades.
@billvanarsdale
2 жыл бұрын
I just read that the GTX 630 requires the external BMS. I looked at the GTX 630 but it was outside of my budget, and the BMS would have made it more so. I have three 206ah SOK batteries, which have internal BMS. I know you are a “quality first” kind of guy, but I love to hear the pros and cons to your setup. I’m heading over to Cape Cod soon have someone look over my shoulder for the design and install because I can’t find a marine/RV electronics expert in the Berkshires. A bit scary the first time, kind of like prom night.
@billvanarsdale
2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to ask about “scaleabilty.” What could you possibly want to add? More battery???
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can double capacity with a yoke and then the one single BMS controls the entire show.
Neat tips! You don't get that with all the 'other guys'.
Milwaukee has a stripper for bigger wires.
Done and done!
short and sweet video; much appreciated- I need to run (4)- 12awg pos&neg- total 4 wires- FROM A 12 VOLT LIGHT SWITCH providing 12 volts constant current- what would be the your process for using "WAGO, S" for this application; I ordered a "WAGO assortment with 2-3-5- ports- ONE EACH OF THE POS &NEG WIRES WILL connect to the POS&NEG on the Light Switch itself; I wish I knew more but I do not- these wire are for the antenna booster for the television which also runs on 12 volts; Hope I haven,t worn out my welcome; thank,s PATRICK.P
@HumbleRoad
Жыл бұрын
My advice is to find someone with the knowledge to complete the job safely. Watch and ask questions.
@patrickpeterman8736
Жыл бұрын
O.K !!
Awesome trip with the zip ties :)
@luckyjim51
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks... love the wago's!
Not just options ... insurance!
You can also make it a little more convenient by using the zip ties that have a release mechanism so you can reuse them. Just in case you misplace your bag of zip ties to replace them unless it was already broken off.
Can these be pushed into the space above the ceiling as they are or do they have to go in the junction you can get for them ??
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
low voltage can be wrapped. 120V needs a box
Have you tried an auto strap tightener? Tightens the strap and trims the end with one tool.
Best video this week quick question are the wagos good for car stereo wiring and I've subscribed thanks
@HumbleRoad
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are
@colscopters
Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Thanks again
Hi I’m enjoying watching your video. I have a question about the battery. which brand lithium battery do you use ? What is the brand for the AC unit you use? Thank you very much.
CUTTING ZIP TIES: Use Flush cutters or Scissors to cut the Zip tie Flush with the locking head. This way you do not leave that little Meat hook protruding from the locking head. Good luck Tcash
Ill like one about making more than 1 holes on the shower tray, no where out here is flat at all lol
Does the WAGO connector (3 bays) function the same as a GKEEMARS connector that is (1 in & 2 out)? I need to split the (+) Positive current 2-ways. One is going to a 24V (150 Watt) DC motor with 12AWG wire and the other one is going to an LED voltage meter that uses a 20AWG wire. I need to split the current like a "Y" splitter, one wire to the motor and the other wire to the LED volt meter. Currently I am using a Gkeemars (1 in to 2 out) but I would like to replace it since they do not work as well. Thank you, Ed
@HumbleRoad
7 ай бұрын
Wago connector is exactly like a wire nut
Wago is a great connector. A tip: when binding 2 or more Wagos together, face the latches toward each other and run the Tyrap between the wires over the end. 90° to the one you put on. It will not slip off. And I would do the same strain relief on the inline Wagos by making a loop and using Tyraps. And please never use electrical tape. The adhesive it leaves behind is disgusting, especially in a hot environment. Throw that black tape out!. As for people mentioning soldering, a proper connection is harder to do if you if you have little to no experience. And it needs heat shrink for insulation. Too much work.
@chadhill14
2 жыл бұрын
Do the Wagos need any type of heat shrink or insulation in a van?? I’m leaning towards using these, but worried about long term… also very new to electrical here! Thanks!
@gurugee2112
2 жыл бұрын
@@chadhill14 No, but the wire must not have any strain on it as they are simple connectors with no strain relief. And they are not watertight connectors so factor that in.
@samfkt
Жыл бұрын
@@gurugee2112 Can I use the Wago connector to connect my 12V wires for camera in car? I mean, what type of connector is best suited for it? BTW is it copper based or what?
@gurugee2112
Жыл бұрын
@@samfkt Works fine for 12V. It is for bare wires. And yes it is for copper.
Have you tried shrink wrap? Around the wago and down just past the ziptie holding the wires together. z
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
That would be difficult to edit if need be. That’s why I prefer the zip tie as opposed to tape. Easier and cleaner to remove
I realize Wago are not waterproof connectors so it seems like in a van application you'd want marine grade connectors just in case. Will shrink tubing or electrical tape work better to cover the 2 and 3 wire connectors? I'm planning to replace my maxx fan with another one plus voltage regulator and was hoping to use the wagos for this.
@HumbleRoad
Жыл бұрын
Wago now makes weatherproof connectors
@funvangroovn176
Жыл бұрын
@@HumbleRoad Do you happen to have link for those?
A side question related to electrical: So in my new camper install, I already ran some solid wire (not connected yet) even though I've heard some people say it should be stranded. ALL of my wire is INSIDE the camper - no wires are exposed to the elements. As long as my connections were good and tight, couldn't we use solid wire? And if we had solid wire, couldn't the pigtails be lightly sanded for better grip with the terminal screws?
@HumbleRoad
6 ай бұрын
Do not use solid wire in a camper. The vibration is the issue take it out and use stranded some people say you can use solid wire just to the air conditioner 120 V AC I don’t do it I use marine grade tinned copper stranded, wire, manufacturer, ANCOR.
@ForgeAheadwithMike
6 ай бұрын
@@HumbleRoad I think I'll take it out but there are a few wires I already have literally embedded in the wall where I can't pull it out (I'm learning), so I'll have to splice the solid ends to stranded wire (to any receptacles, etc)... Wow I was just looking at the stranded Ancor... Thank you, sir.
@HumbleRoad
6 ай бұрын
@@ForgeAheadwithMike it’s not necessary to splice stranded to the end of your solid. Just use the solid loop it at where you can, and consider Wago for your connections.
@ForgeAheadwithMike
6 ай бұрын
@@HumbleRoad Ah ok. I was looking at Wago (Ideal seem good also)... What do you mean "loop it"?
@HumbleRoad
6 ай бұрын
@@ForgeAheadwithMike what I mean by loop is wherever you can bend the wire around the screw like on the side of an outlet bend it around the screw and bend it in the direction of the threads remember righty tightly lefty Loosey always have that loop coming over and on top of the screw so when you tighten the screw, it will also tighten in the loop.
Are these connectors ok to use on a vehicle for things like a tachometer light and gauges?
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
They are not waterproof
@badmudderrutters7460
2 жыл бұрын
@@HumbleRoad OMG! I didn't look at my comment before I sent it, it was supposed to say tachometer.... It's for my strictly drag car that doesn't see any rain so I'm assuming it will be ok?
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
@@badmudderrutters7460 they are really high quality, easy to use. Search Wago connectors test in YT
@badmudderrutters7460
2 жыл бұрын
@@HumbleRoad Ty for your response, it is greatly appreciated.
Heat shrink once at the end instead of multiple zip ties?
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Removability
hi, can I use wago connector with jumper wires?
@HumbleRoad
Жыл бұрын
No!
full confidence? you could tow a truck with that connection!
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
All of the proper tools, good technique and materials. But no reference in any of your videos that I have seen to NO-OX-ID type products. At my day job I'd get fired for not using it on every connection. Goes on the wire before inserted into the connector. And goes on all mating surfaces between connectors. Also a tip on your last video. The larger cable, connectors. If you buy Hubble, Pandit or other industrial brands you can get them with inspection holes. This allows you to verify the cable strands are fully inserted into the lug. And the imprints on the die. That's so that after the connection is made. Am inspector can verify that the proper die was used. Per my industries standards we are only allowed clear heatshrink over these connections, so the stamp cam be seen. Again just some info. You are definetly one of the better guys out there doing electrical work. I see some real gems(bad ones) on KZread and in real life. Keep up the good work!
Another "van go"!!! Have you considered cutting your ear off?👋👋👋👋👋👍👍👍👍😁😁😁😁
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
😳
and my wife tells me I overkill! (she doesn't appreciate the confidence part)
it is a little bit overengineered what are you doing. The zip on the wires is a good idea but yhe zip on wago...it can slide off very easy. better use heat shrink over
very little adds so much. non electrician says great idea
Just put them in a wago box!!
I just use electrical tape. Start an inch down on wires and wrap continuously up around the wago and your done no way in gods creation they will come loose, electric tape is much cheaper than zip ties
@HumbleRoad
6 ай бұрын
Until you need to remove it. Then it is a sticky mess.
Zip tie your socks to your ankles
@HumbleRoad
Жыл бұрын
I love that idea! 😄
Twisting wires on long runs together causes heat build up same thing with zip tying Wago’s together.
Thanks for taking the time but honestly a video with such a zoomed out camera angle isn’t useful.
Hi I’m enjoying watching your video. I have a question about the battery. which brand lithium battery do you use ? What is the brand for the AC unit you use? Thank you very much.
@HumbleRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Lithium battery is Lithionics. Always Lithionics. Go review their website for a better appreciation