Oil/filter change costs me ~$50. I have absolutely zero problem doing it every 3k miles or so. One thing for sure, my engine is staying nice and clean inside. It's a very small price to pay to ensure long life for my engine. You guys that wanna go 10k miles, be my guest, but I don't want to buy your used vehicle.

@OtisFlint

8 күн бұрын

But someone else will. No one cares whether the previous owner threw their money away on 3k oil changes.

@Nexgeninfi

8 күн бұрын

@@OtisFlint People who meticulously maintains their vehicle usually don't sell 'em.

@oliverramclam6009

8 күн бұрын

My neighbor does only 2 oil changes during his 3yr lease. The first free one at the dealership and one right before turn in . He states whoever buy this after me better get an extended warranty because they gonna need it .😊

@Doc1855

8 күн бұрын

I change ours every 4K-5K miles, full synthetic

@d.r.penkert1429

8 күн бұрын

The days of changing oil every 3K miles was when additive technology was beginning. Today oils like Mobile 1, Schaffer, Amsoil all do fine up to 10K. Have done this on a 345K mile Tundra. When changing oil comes out slightly darker then put in. Wasting your money changing that soon, not a race car!

This is why I love this channel, Tim brings in engineers/experts to explain what is going on.

@danielrn133

8 күн бұрын

Agree, It isn't "my buddy said...". He actually brings in experts and talks with them and gets actual information.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

8 күн бұрын

Yes. Instead of interviewing an hourly "quick lube dealer technician" we have an actual engineer here... amazing how the masses put more faith in a stealership quick line tech

@flyingjeff1956

6 күн бұрын

There’s just one problem, maybe two. Only 3 companies make base oil. Only 4 companies make additive packages. None of them say Valvoline on the label.

Lake Speed Jr. Guys, listen to this guy.

@1antisupercat

8 күн бұрын

That’s exactly what I was going to say!

@brianmaloney5430

8 күн бұрын

A tribologist that has helped design modern engine oil does not do 7500 to 10000 oil changes. That should tell you everything you need to know.

@LTVoyager

8 күн бұрын

@@brianmaloney5430I thought he said he so going to go 10,000 miles on his daughter’s new Toyota now that it is past the break-in period.

@highrzr

8 күн бұрын

Lake is an absolute must watch and listen.

@1gr8oil

7 күн бұрын

@@brianmaloney5430 ......AMSOIL INC. has Many Tribologists and Chemists that have designed Engine oils that go beyond 10,ooo miles. There first Synthetic designed in the 90's and put on the market in 1972 was designed to go one year or 25,000 miles which ever came first, and they are sill on the market today! Engine oils can be developed for a "PRICE POINT", or long term, it just depends on how much the oil manufacturer wants to put into the oil, dollar wise.

Oil doesn't remove contaminants from an engine until you remove the contaminated oil from the engine. You're not changing the oil at 3k miles because the oil is bad, you're changing it to remove the contaminated oil from the engine. Or you can keep the contaminated oil in your engine for 10k miles. It's up to you but I don't like running oil for 10k miles. Even if the oil is still technically good, I want to get the contaminants out sooner than later.

@larrypoe9496

Күн бұрын

Bullshit !!!

@terryosowski8143

23 сағат бұрын

Facts! Exactly

Thanks for bringing on an industry professional to try and dispel all the social media hype. I still personally like 5k oil change intervals. I feel like I use my vehicles a bit more rigorously, and giving me a reason to crawl underneath the vehicle every 5k to look things over while the oil is draining.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

8 күн бұрын

5K is _feelings_ 10k is SCIENCE

@naveenthemachine

8 күн бұрын

5K is always better. I do 5K or 12months since I don’t drive much

@naveenthemachine

8 күн бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADwatch the car care nut. He says 5K is always better

@ALMX5DP

8 күн бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD really depends on the specific use and what an oil analysis says. In lieu of that I like to be extra conservative at the detriment to my wallet and also for my human condition for wanting a more regular inspection.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

8 күн бұрын

​@@naveenthemachineAgain you are trusting a Quick-Lube technician over an ACTUAL engineer and actual scientists who conduct experiments.

I would recommend watching the motor oil geeks KZread channel. Lots of good info. The frequency you change oil depends on a lot of variables.

I am a hard headed old man as long as piston engines burn air and atomized gasoline I will change oil every 3000 miles. God has allowed me to still do it myself. I buy oil and filter at wally world. Valvoline

Great video! Old philosophies about oil and change intervals have changed along with the engines themselves. Jason is spot on about modern oils and their requirements. Direct injection, tighter tolerances and coatings due to the goal of better mileage and lesser emmisions has caused oil manufacturers to step up their game. This new Restore product from Valvoline is the real deal, and is based on an earlier product that Valvoline developed for diesels. Lake Speed Jr. Is another expert in oil and piston ring technology (Total Seal) that has great videos on this subject. The tests of Restore and Protect not only removed carbon buildup from ring lands that plagued many GM LS engines that caused smoking and oil consumption, but removed varnish in the heads and valvespring areas too. The days of a summer and winter oil are long gone, replaced by way better engineering. My Detroit Diesel powered dump truck runs with 5w 30 oil much like modern pickups which would have been unheard of just a few years ago. The most important thing both in the past and now is to still have regular oil changes with quality oil and filters, both of which are still much cheaper than an engine overhaul or replacement.

@J-1410

4 күн бұрын

Detroit what though?

Well I have Honda accord with 355000 miles I ran 5 w 30 by Castrol magnetic brand sense new change every 3 k miles car still pulls like new and no blow by or smoke

@robedmund9948

8 күн бұрын

We sold our 1989 Honda Accord at 225k miles. Mainly because I was tired of climbing into the trunk to change the fuel pump. (3 in 2 years). Wish I could have found a solid pump and kept it. That little four-banger ripped with no modifications!

@billkraemer4710

5 күн бұрын

I have an 06 TL and change it every 7k, when the light pops up. I use the recommended oil, new filter. No burn, no blow by, no problems. 229,000 miles.

@nhbountyhunter

4 күн бұрын

That's great. It's nice to see people care about their cars I have an 07 ram 2500 tows everyday (mid range car transporter) 645k. oil changes every 5k. mobile 1 with 2 qt of Lucas oil stabilizer. Just did head gaskets, cylinders look amazing, no wear marks.

@rickbrewer8507

2 күн бұрын

@@billkraemer4710 Did the same for my 08 TL. Ran great and used no oil (Mobil 1 always) for over 140,000 miles until my son totaled it. 🤣

Every 3,000 is my best on my 05 mdx 245,000 miles 😊😊😊😊no leaks, no burning of oil 😊

@KStewart-th4sk

4 күн бұрын

I had 698, 714 KM on a '91 VW Jetta Turbodiesel, changed oil/filter at VW recommended 8000KM intervals. I had no leaks, no burning oil, and the engine was still running great when an a-hole running a Red light destroyed the car. Best car i ever had, same clutch, trans/differential, same axle shafts. I put roughly 1100-1200KM weekly on it. 8000KM converts to about 4971 miles.

@Davido50

3 күн бұрын

My 05 F150 4wd has 267k mis ..good basic maintenance for the win! 5k mi OCI full synthetic always. Top Tier rated fuels.

I changed my oil every 3000 miles because i enjoy doing it and its just what 40 bucks

Great interview Tim. You get better access to engineer and technical folks than any journalist I know of on youtube.

The Oil Geek says that the 10,000 mile range on todays oil has been pushed by the EPA ( government ) so as not to use or have to dispose of as much volume of oil. He suggested you stick with a 5000 mile range if you plan on keeping your car long term vs if you lease or going to trade your car every few years then go with the 10,000 mile according to the car manufacturer!

@Pickuptrucktalk

3 күн бұрын

I’ve checked his claims. I can’t figure out where’s he is stating that information.

@danielbeiersr3642

3 күн бұрын

@@Pickuptrucktalkhe did a video with the guys from the valvoline engine test lab in Kentucky

@Pickuptrucktalk

3 күн бұрын

@@danielbeiersr3642 he did. I saw that one as well.

@hotrodray6802

2 күн бұрын

​@@Pickuptrucktalk Watch his video carefully, and try to listen without prejudice.

Awesome explanation from the Engineer! Very informative.

If the extended changes are so great on the engine why would one have to buy a engine oil restore to clean it up. It is because extended changes start to build up sludge and varnish in the engine.

@doublebase6509

6 күн бұрын

You wouldn’t. That’s the interesting dilemma. Sludge is very rare UNLESS you have an actual engine problem, and if that’s the case oil change intervals are the least of your problems. Sludge is a byproduct of something bad going on with your engine, and it’s not the interval unless we’re talking about someone going 3 years and 50,000 miles (down 2 quarts without a care). Carbon will occur whether you change it frequently or not, it’s a byproduct of combustion and will build on piston lands and skirts. Varnish is meaningless and harmless. Restore and Protect is claiming to clean this (and carbon). It’s marketing. We all want “clean” and “the best”. Valvoline is taking advantage of things we want, and claiming they can give it to us. They are marketing geniuses and have always been. Mobil1 has made similar claims of cleaning potential, but they didn’t do a great job promoting it. There are many others as well. I think we will now see more oil companies follow suit with what Valvoline is doing because it’s working, people are now talking about Valvoline again.

@timothykeith1367

6 күн бұрын

​@@doublebase6509When the oil is dark black I change it. If it smells gassy there is an injector problem

@doublebase6509

5 күн бұрын

@@timothykeith1367 I don’t change oil based on color, but I do absolutely think the number one killer of engine oil is FUEL. Fuel dilution destroys oil and the engine if it gets bad enough.

@Daniel-qe8qe

3 күн бұрын

​@doublebase6509 god how wrong you are

@brianmaloney5430

3 күн бұрын

​@@Daniel-qe8qeso mechanics that pull the engines apart with 10k oil changes and see sludge and varnish are wrong 😂

Again, the Oil Geek has covered shelf life of oil and the separation of additives in oil over time sitting on the shelf!

@luckyguy600

Күн бұрын

so shake it up. It isn't like it leaked out on your garage floor/ or melted the container. It isn't whole blood plasma you're injecting in you are folks. It is an oil change. I do mine every 3,000km by myself. it's a cheap ain't item. Well. Do what you want to do, and so will I. Happy Happy eh?

Great content Tim. Thank you sir.

If you talk to mechanics who are taking these things apart, they notice the longer oil change intervals are not helping with engine longevity. Those longer intervals are good enough to get you through most warranties. Now the dealerships are off the hook for warranty work. Work that could have been prevented through more frequent changes. Mechanics are the ones in the trenches seeing what comes in.

I have a Chrysler 200 (3.6L Pentastar V6) as a former daily driver that I've driven from around 15k miles to well over 200k miles. I've always followed the oil change reminder, which usually ended up around 7,500 miles (which I believe is the highest the computer will let it go) and used synthetic oil. After almost 250k miles of use, it doesn't consume or leak any oil, the used oil looks and smells fine, and the engine is smooth and quiet just like when I bought it all those years ago. It has never skipped a beat, and I can tell it has a ton of life left. My newer daily driver, currently around 50k miles, also has a Pentastar 3.6L (why mess with success?) and the oil change reminder tends to go to nearly 10k miles. It knows the conditions in which the engine is operating and adjusts the interval accordingly, my other Pentastar proved itself honest--I trust it. Maybe if I had a complicated tiny turbocharged 200hp/L DI engine (which I intentionally avoid) I'd be less confident, but on an ol' simple, proven workhorse of an engine, I'm not worried one bit. Every 3k would just be a waste of my time.

As a 24-year synthetic lubricants dealer, people don't understand and I don't blame them because they don't know, the vast majority of synthetic oils on the market today the base oil is still made from crude oil. look up the term hydrocracking. Castrol brought that into existence many many years ago and the term "synthetic" has been redefined. you very well may be buying a synthetic oil but it's still a crude base mineral oil and not a chemically synthesized synthetic as it used to be known. Now that being said it is a huge improvement over conventional mineral oil it's heavily refined it's Hydro cracked which means it goes through a process that breaks down or splits the molecular structure of the oil to make it more uniform. The best way to describe that would be if you look at oil on a molecular level crude oil has very irregular shapes and sizes, they are trying to roll over one another similar to a bowl of marbles but if you're using a truly synthesized synthetic it's chemical made all the molecules are exactly the same size that's why a true class 4 synthetic oil reduces friction. The term "fully" synthetic means nothing, it's a marketing term also don't waste your money on a synthetic blend because there's no industry standard that regulates the blending ratio so you literally could buy a qt of blend and get a tablespoon of synthetic stock and be paying more for no advantage. I never recommend a synthetic blend either stick with a good quality mineral based oil or go with a higher end TRUE synthetic. if you look at the classifications of oil there's class one, two, three, four, five class. one and two is a mineral base conventional oil the only thing that separates those is the level of refinement. it's similar to diesel fuel and kerosene, diesel fuel is dirtier than kerosene basically the same but one's cleaner more refined. class 3 is a hydro cracked also known as a pseudo synthetic oil that's the majority of what's on the market and you can always tell based upon cost and then class four is a chemically synthesized hydrocarbon oil not manufactured from crude by the time you reach the fifth category that is a high-end Esther typically you don't ever find a engine oil made from Esters they are super rare, but they are used as additives in "True" synthetic oil. There's absolutely no problem with doing extended oil changes but there's a number of factors that go into it. I am not only a 24-year veteran of being a lubricant dealer but I've been a mechanic for 40 years and a fleet manager for 20 years. if you're doing extended drains only do them when you're using quality filtration including bypass filtration and oil analysis that way you're taking any risk or guesswork out of the equation. Oil drain intervals very greatly even using the same oil. I have ran vehicles 25k miles using oil analysis and the oil is still perfectly good. sometimes you run the oil do a sample they may tell you to change the filter and top it off the oil still good for continued use. I've also ran the same oil in engines instead of getting 25k out of it it may be completely trashed at 12k depends on the engine and the drivers application. So to give you a blanket drain interval if you're doing extended drains is not a good idea that's why I always recommend people do oil analysis and just in case you're not familiar with oil analysis it goes far beyond just telling you if the engine oil is good or bad. I have diagnosed many engine problems using all analysis looking at the wear Metals in the oil, fuel dilution, coolant contamination Etc. it gives you basically the same equivalent of doing blood work on your body. I am a advocate for extended drains over the long term it does reduce cost and environmental waste also downtime if you have a fleet. Now that being said if you're an average guy and you don't want to mess with doing all that then just change your oil and filter using quality products that you've researched and have confidence in not marketing but do you research and change it when the manufacturer recommends or at least when you feel comfortable.

@1gr8oil

4 күн бұрын

@TheHillrat4wd........I Had a 1994 Dodge/Cummins powered, that I used AMSOIL 15w-40 100 PERCENT synthetic, and a bypass oil filter system for 10 years and 155 thousand miles, using "OIL ANALYSIS" every 12 K miles,and the oil was NEVER drained, just added added oil when needed, which wasn't very often! "OIL ANALYSIS results always came back indicating oil was good for "CONTINUED USE"!

@TheHillrat4wd

4 күн бұрын

@@1gr8oil thank you for sharing that is my point

@carl2591

3 күн бұрын

UOA are the best way to know oil life good or bad. I run a bypass as well on 03 7.3L PS changing every 5K.miles.

I'm really enjoying my popcorn while reading these comments...

Thanks!

Great content. Much appreciated.

Subaru says "if the engine consistently fails to reach operating temperature within 10-15 minutes of driving, it may be considered as short trips." Short trips means "severe service", means 3k oil changes. They also specify a 6 month interval regardless of mileage.

@johnoberle9750

4 күн бұрын

They are 100% right! Do to condensate contamination. My work is only a couple of miles away. I proved this to myself with water in my oil. Synthetic oil gets contaminated like anything else. My vehicle doesn’t make to 3k and I change the oil. I do mine twice a year. Only drive about 5k a year.

@Davido50

3 күн бұрын

They burn oil those Suburu engines old or new 😮

@chockeypucks24

Күн бұрын

The best move I ever made with my 2014 FB25 Subaru was changing from the recommended 0w20 oils to 0w30 pennzoil platinum euro. I used to burn a quart every 1000 miles, now it only consumes an extra quart and a half, so even though 0w30 costs more it saves me money because I don’t have to buy 4 quarts between oil changes. I thought my MPG would go down but it’s still around 27. I actually think my mpg is better on the highway.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I ever heard a word from the Vavoline engineer about going to 10,000 miles on an oil change interval. But I did pick up on the Restore and Protect infomercial format and the fact that lighter weight oils are more for epa milage figures than protecting your engine for the long term.

@Pickuptrucktalk

8 күн бұрын

It is due to the additives in the oil.

@adamsmiths3016

8 күн бұрын

When you start paying for my parts you can dictate my oil change interval until the I'm not going over 5k. Oil is cheaper then a engine. Also something you should ask the car manufacturer is the list of oils that a car can use because they may say use a 0w oil but the engine is build for a whole range of oils depending on your driving.

@Pickuptrucktalk

8 күн бұрын

@@adamsmiths3016 Alright, sounds good. FWIW, it doesn't matter to me when you change your oil. I'm just sharing this interview for food for thought.

@matthewgaines10

8 күн бұрын

@@adamsmiths3016 Don’t conflate information as a demand. Live your life as you choose. The rest of us don’t care. Use the information or don’t. Your choice.

@adamsmiths3016

8 күн бұрын

@@Pickuptrucktalk well why didn't you ask about 10k oil change intervals if the title of your video says that. Click bait much

Thanks, great vid. He was very informative.

I drive a 2014 F150 3.5 ecoboost with over 97k on it. I used to change my oil every 5k, but recently decided to go 3,500 instead. With the turbos running really hot with the combination the GDI, i'd rather be safe than sorry. Plus adding a catch can has helped pretty well thus far. I wanna run this truck as long as i can because it's paid off and i have zero plans on purchasing any new vehicle any time soon. As for oil brands... i use either Valvoline Max life HM or Pennzoil ultra platinum. MY truck has been running so much smoother and quieter(the last 25k miles) than the Motorcraft the dealer used with free oil changes while it was still under warranty.

@bigpicturethinking5620

8 күн бұрын

You run 5w30 or 0w40?

@CWB1863

8 күн бұрын

5W-30

@CWB1863

8 күн бұрын

@@bigpicturethinking5620 5W-30

@ajmedeiros77

6 күн бұрын

Your eco boost is second gen I believe, which is dual injection, port and direct, so no worry about carbon build up like the 1st gen with direct injection only. Although i know guys around me with the first gen with no problems and over 160k.

@CWB1863

6 күн бұрын

@@ajmedeiros77 Unfortunately i'm still in the first Generation. The second Gen came out in 2017.

Restore & Protect is my new favorite 👍🏾

@fredf.5901

7 күн бұрын

I just used it and immediately I hear lifter clicking noise.

@lgoamity

6 күн бұрын

​@@fredf.5901 So how's it doing now? Has it Quieted down any? With "79% stronger anti-wear protection than industry standards (vs. GF-6 qualified oil)" I'd hope after it's used a couple trips... That it'd coat/clean at least a little bit. I've read/seen R&P reviews that had suggested it (R&P) was doing better then the previous Oil Fill with Engine Noise,Feel, and/or various Performance variables... Not saying it is a Miracle Oil that eliminates whatever problem(s) you're experiencing, but that it is doing better then "other" oils. For example... My last Pennzoil Oil Change (Full Synthetic, not a Dexos1 rated Oil). Claimed like "40% better performance than conventional oil*"... Could mean a wide variety of things but it (Pennzoil Full Synthetic) does claim/warranty 10,000 mile interval* ....

SE Michigan for the win! 💯 ❤

The Engineer failed to mention . The primary cause of oil sheering out of grade is fuel dilution. What causes that? We've talked about it before, low tension piston rings and high pressure direct injection. Most gasoline truck moved from 5-6 quart sumps, to 7-8 quart sumps. The reason for this is that, the OEMs know the oil will shear out of grade, the more oil in the pan, the better chance they have to make to to 7500 miles. Which BTW is all you'll get out of most modren oil life monitors. Not 10k.

@1gr8oil

7 күн бұрын

@terrencejones9817.....The main reasons for higher sump capacity is "HEAT"! 40 PERCENT of the engine is cooled by the oil, such as PISTONS, RODS, CRANKSHAFTS, CAMSHAFTS ARE COOLED by OIL! More oil in the SUMP allows for more cooling!

@terrencejones9817

7 күн бұрын

@@1gr8oil Piston oil squirter have been comon for 20 years now. It's not about cooling. It's about oil lubrication and oil consumption.

there is no substitute for frequent oil changes, I don't care what brand of oil or what kind of genies they put in the bottle. Every vehicle has different sets of operating conditions and oils are made for an average set of conditions. You ask professional mechanics and they will not recommend the lengthy oil change intervals. Nothing tops a fresh plentiful quantity of oil.

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

And mechanics are much more knowledgeable than EPA bureaucrats and glorified salesmen.

Tim good show for some reason. I am an oil geek myself. I love to research motor oil recently last week. I switched my brands that I’ve used for 30 years to Valvoline protect and restore. I’m testing it in my Ford 302 in my research includes lake Speed Junior, which also did a segment on this oil, also with a guy from Valvoline They also run it on a dino doing horsepower test different weights things of that nature. It’s really what made me switch again as Jason said switching weights maybe from a 5:20 to a 530 might not hurt but you don’t wanna go to far because today’s modern rings are much thinner and have less tension and heavier oil needs more tension on the piston rings, so don’t blow by most people think heavier oil better so won’t get by. Not true as far as my research shows again just my personal thoughts everybody has a different thought.

@nrakma

6 күн бұрын

Buy a bore scope and look inside your engine. Otherwise you are guessing as to whether it does anything, good or bad.

@MQuez

2 күн бұрын

same here, & I will definitely keep on using R&P

I can change my oil myself for $40. I target 5k miles or once a year. Cheap insurance to keep the inside clean and functioning properly. As for thin oil like 0W-20, I prefer more protection over a slight higher mpg. I prefer 0W-30 or 5W-30.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

8 күн бұрын

Engineer just told you 10k is more than safe and you cut that by 50% for "cheap insurance"?

@ChevySS1968

8 күн бұрын

Totally concur. You are the type of owner I am looking for when buying a used vehicle. Kudos to you!!!

@rondail5675

7 күн бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Wish car would you buy, one with 5k or 10k oil changes? I car is not just transportation to me. My Civic is just fine but my Corvette is special. I service them the same way. You say waste but I say my cars are better cared for. Best wishes.

@khakiswag

7 күн бұрын

Thicker doesn't mean better. Modern synthetic oil, even 0W16, provides better lubricity, thermal tolerance and wear protection than 10W30 conventional oil. And it goes without saying on a 0 degree morning 0W16 will flow many times easier and build oil pressure almost instantly compared to 10W30 or even 5W30.

@msk3905

7 күн бұрын

Thats what I hoot for unless I’m on manufacturer schedule but switch to this interval when paid scheduled maintenance ends and I do. Always use rated oil weights and Mobil 1 with filter runs me @$35-$40 at walmart

Thats a great ideal. I will do that 👍

Remember valvoline invented motor oil and they have a legacy they are proud to live up to.

My Toyota RAV4 Owner Manual States: "An oil with a higher viscosity (one with a higher value) may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high speeds, or under extreme load conditions." "Better Suited" pretty much says what they are recommending (0W-16) is not really good enough.

@Resistculturaldecline

7 күн бұрын

And Mazda owners manuals state 0w20, but only in USA and Canada 😉. Everywhere else, from sub-zero temps on up it clearly says 5w30 is the best choice.

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

Proof that our recommendations are EPA and CAFE driven, not engineer driven.

@1gr8oil

7 күн бұрын

@RAV4Adventures2024.......Some Toyotas recommend 0W-12

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

@@1gr8oil Might as well just use water from the faucet.

@GarenP

5 күн бұрын

Look at the owners manual outside of N. America (US/Canada) and you'll see they will mention a range of viscosities that can be used, whereas in the U.S. they will just mention one. Since noticing that I'm now ignoring that part of the manual.

Carbon on pistons/combustion chambers verses intake valves, as per your guest, are two separate issues, largely unrelated. Restore and Protect can help minimize the valve buildup some, but port injection is still a very good way to help as well - that is pretty much what the Valvoline engineer said.

@timothykeith1367

6 күн бұрын

Annual top cylinder soaks are the oil-nerd thing to do. Can't hurt when you change the oil immediately afterwards. An inspection camera in a cell phone can't see coked rings. I'll add solvent multiple times in a weekend and the motor will smoke a few seconds on start-up.

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

@@timothykeith1367 That's why I still have my old port-injection auto, and will only buy a new car that has both port injection and GDI. On engines with both port injection and GDI, the port injection typically runs when idling to do cleaning.

I've been rebuilding and running gas and diesel engines for over half century. It depends on the quality of fuel you use, maintenance overal and the environment you run in. In city, long runs, dirty environment. My advice is no more than 5kfor gas and 15k on diesel.

I don’t care how advanced the oil is. Does it purge all the dirt, carbon, fuel and impurities from the oil besides the filter doing so much? Nope. I’ll stick to shorter intervals.

Thinner oil will not protect the same as thicker oil. The motor oil geek has a video comparing thin oil to thick oil in the same engine.

@hauseofraf

8 күн бұрын

Yup and he confirmed that viscosity plays a role in wear protection. For daily drivers, especially in the summer heat, 5W30 is a no brainer.

@jacobforeman9916

8 күн бұрын

@@hauseofraf I like 5w40 in my hemi.

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

And the lab analysis showed much more wear with thin oil.

I will not go over 3k between oil changes no matter who says different. These 5 and 10k oil changes were created for manufacturers to claim lower cost of ownership BS. I’ve never in 40 years had an engine failure. Good quality engine + 3k oil changes = very long life engine.

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

The switch to 10K miles was mostly because of EU regulations on oil change frequency.

1993 Jeep Cherokee XJ Sport (158k), 2003 F150 XLT 4x4 (218k), 2018 Toyota Carmy (88k). All three get regular oil changes at or slightly before 5,000 miles. No synthetics. No exceptions.

@donwyoming1936

8 күн бұрын

All anecdotal, worthless information, my friend.

I'm going to use Valvoline restore and protect next change. My 06 CVPI calls for 5w20 but my plan was to switch to 5w30. You see any issue w that or any benefit. Car has 258k miles and runs great not rebuilt.

135,000 on 14 5.0 F150 sevear use, change oil every 3500 miles truck runs like new.

I guess it’s all about how comfortable you are with oil change intervals…..you’re not going to any harm to your engine by changing your oil sooner rather than later…..if you sleep better at 5k intervals then fine….I’m staying with 5k intervals….I’m sure Valvoline will appreciate the business…

The wild card variable is if you pay another to change the oil and filter there is risk.. yeah leave the oil out. Leave filter loose. Drain the transmission and not the oil pan. So since say 1970 I know of a couple dozen folks that had engines ruined..mostly by 1 hour oil places.

Wonder why with all the advances in egine oil, the warranties on engines havent been extened?

@rockkstah2550

8 күн бұрын

It all boils down to $$$$$$$

@bantizzle79

8 күн бұрын

Manufacturer wants your engine to fail after the warranty has expired so you can buy a new vehicle from them.

@SoonerMikeD

8 күн бұрын

Because they’re all about profit. Hell they’d rather not give a warranty at all if they could somehow still get people to buy their cars lol

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

Because he hey know many will fail, and that angers the car buyer, so free replacements rase some of that anger.

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

Because car manufacturers keep specifying thinner and thinner oil to improve gas mileage. Plus most engines are going to 4-cylinder Turbo now, which is a killer on engine longevity. Toyota specifies 0W-16 motor oil on most new cars, and even 0W-08 on some of their vehicles, all to improve gas mileage.

How about 3,333 Mile oil change interval. Also very easy to remember no matter where you are. This is what I’m doing until I do oil analysis with restore and protect on my 2024 Camry hybrid. Motor on and off can be severe use. So I will see how it works after I’m done with break in …

People complain about oil change cost. I told friends you need to change every six months and said i cant afford. Two loss their engines after less than 50,000 to 80,,000 miles all city driving in texas heat. Engine cost up too 5,000 dollars very expensive to compared too 720 dollars for 16 oil change cost., the oil change indicator will destroy your engine. My Honda says change oil 7500 miles i am retired so dont drive many miles. No oil change place will not put in your own oil.

It's not just the PCV system. EGR has a lot to do with carbon build up.

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

And EGR hurts part-throttle performance.

Notice he said the direct injection is a separate issue from piston carbon buildup. Also some manufacturers are worse about carbon build up on the valves then others .. probably depending on if they have port injection or not.

@rockkstah2550

8 күн бұрын

I gotta give Toyota props for having both DI and PFI

@robertchapman4488

7 күн бұрын

Ford also on the 3.5l, 2.7l and 5.0l​@@rockkstah2550

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

@@rockkstah2550 Hyundai is moving in that direction also with their Smart Stream engines. But the Hyundai engines use one injector to do both GDI and FI. Early Hyundai GDI engines were notorious for carbon buildup on intake valves.

Im fine with thinner oil on trucks and cars that dont ever get the rpm over 4k. But what about performance oriented vehicles? I have a 2024 GR Corolla that pushing 25 psi of boost and oil analysis showed a big difference in wear between 0W20 and 5W30. The wear dropped by double when using 5W30 and oil pressure barley even went up. So im confused in terms of high performance vehicles and why using thin oil might not be so good on turbocharge or supercharge vehicles.

@ALMX5DP

8 күн бұрын

I think like mentioned OEMs often prioritize fuel economy when determining oil specifications. But like he said sometimes they also specify a heavier weight for circumstances where higher loads or heat occur. I don’t think there is anything mentioned about that for the GRC but Ford does for their Mustang (I think going from 5w30 to 5 or 15w50 for track use). Probably not a bad idea to use that if you’re okay with the fuel economy hit (likely less than 1mpg anyways).

@N1Filter

8 күн бұрын

​@@ALMX5DPThe fuel economy hit has only been about .5 mpg and the car already gets 28 mpg so im fine with that. Its just annoying that they use scare tactics saying that you have to uses this oil and nothing else or your engine will explode.

@Resistculturaldecline

7 күн бұрын

If your oil lab results show less wear and you're not getting fuel contamination, I'd stay with a quality 5w30

@N1Filter

7 күн бұрын

​​@@ResistculturaldeclineFuel contamination went down from a 1.4 to lower then .5

@Resistculturaldecline

7 күн бұрын

@@N1Filter Beautiful

Any issues with main seal leaks that are old and possibly getting seal integrity help from the carbon buildup?

Jason “Head”… what a bad ass name.

@loganhead804

6 күн бұрын

🗣️🗣️🗣️

@hunterbidenscrackdealer3753

6 күн бұрын

@@loganhead804 bad ass!

I'm hoping the new restore & protect will help

What your not telling is the oem's are receiving additional credits for CAFE promoting longer oil intervals.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

8 күн бұрын

CAFE is fuel economy... not emissions, not "oil change intervals". Education is key 😉

@mikesawyer1336

7 күн бұрын

After doing some research, I find your comment to be true which was surprising to me. Cafe standards usually are for fuel economy, but the disposal of fossil fuels has an impact on the environment and they do get credits for lengthening the oil change interval. That's really not a good thing in this situation. Thanks for surfacing that point!

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

And I'll be d--ned if I listen to the EPA.

@mikesawyer1336

6 күн бұрын

@@jamesbosworth4191 oh I would listen to the EPA. I'm a tree hugger..

@jamesbosworth4191

6 күн бұрын

@@mikesawyer1336 I love trees too. They provide life-giving oxygen, without which we wouldn't be able to live, but most EPA bureaucrats don't know squat about cars and act like they HATE cars, so how can you listen to them about how to maintain a car? That's like asking a plummer how to perform Open-Heart surgery.

Just got the Stuff to replace Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil ! for my non oil burner [240000miles] 2001 v8 5.3 ! Seens much better that a one time use Engine flush cleaner product . Which i wanted to use, but too many reports of it doing more hard than good.

Change every 3000 miles. Good oil. Decent filter. Treat to a fuel treatment at same time. Every 3rd change of oil maybe use a flush especially if older engine.

Wonder when we will see this restore and protect on shelves in canada

So excluding mall crawlers, anyone that uses their truck as a truck should run a higher viscosity. (at 4-7 min) For example, coyote mustang use 5-30, but PP & Boss use 5-50.

Not only the various hydraulic systems, but the new breed to lighter rings don't like heavy oil at all. The rings need to scrape the oil off the cylinder walls and control how much is remaining. Too heavy a grade will leave too much behind to burn, causing a lean condition.

@jamesbosworth4191

7 күн бұрын

Oil consumption doesn't cause a lean condition, it causes you to have to add oil between changes, causes carbon build up, and can cause you to fail a smog check.

You obviously do highway driving which is much easier on oil than short drives which results in more raw fuel in the oil and less moisture burn off. Can you say sludge?

So many recent engine oil videos don't address the cold start and most engine wear occurs at startup belief/narrative. I would like to see this addressed, especially in respect to thinner winter weights vs heavier winter weights.

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

Thinner oil (lower viscosity on the first number) affects how quickly it will flow in cold weather. The lower the number the better it flows at cold temps. But it depends on how cold you are talking about as to whether it is a big problem. Cars in far northern areas that are not parked in a garage overnight, will definitely benefit from a 0W motor oil. Other than that, i think worrying about start-up oil flow in moderate or warm climates is over-exaggerated. I use 5W-30 synthetic in my 15 year old car, and it has never used any oil in-between oil changes (based on dipstick readings). But I live in a moderate climate and park my car overnight in a garage attached to my home.

The million dollar question; on my direction injection engine will it keep the valves clean ? They are not touched by gas and shouldn’t be touched by oil ? So can it do it ?

I run 5,000 miles with rotella oil.

Heavier in summer lighter in winter, like he said after wards

My shop uses valveoine

You need to talk to Brian at BND Automotive he’s a oil and fuel additive guru, I buy his oil for my 2023 tundra , Hoping it doesn’t have a problem.

It’s $50 for an oil change. Why push it to the max with a 10k change?? These are max intervals that you see in the owners manual. I don’t understood the mindset of people spending 50K plus on a vehicle and then try to save a nickel by maxing out your oil interval.

I was hoping that he might describe in some detail how the Restore and Protect differs from their other oils. Is it basically just a higher level of detergents in the additive package? Also, regarding these long oil change intervals, is the darkening of the oil as it gets older due, at least in part, to the buildup of soot(fine Carbon particles) in the oil? If so, would these very small abrasive particles, that pass through the oil filter, possibly damaging to small highly-loaded bearing surfaces in places like the valve train?

@Pickuptrucktalk

8 күн бұрын

I'm working on a follow-up on the Restore and Protect. I can't answer the other.

@videomaniac108

8 күн бұрын

@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks.

When does motor oil go "bad" (obsolete, superannuated)??? I've heard 5 years, but would like to ascertain that fact with you gentlemen!

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

Motor oil, especially a synthetic, will last much, much longer than 5 years. People throw out numbers based on wild guesses, without any testing or facts. Motor oil does not oxidize, for the same reason that oil and water do not mix.

You'll never convince me to go further than 4,000 miles on a oil fill.

@ALMX5DP

8 күн бұрын

@@1FiftyOverland just curious where you came up with 4k as the absolute limit.

@Pickuptrucktalk

8 күн бұрын

Sold the truck. What do you expect to cost $9k? Certainly not the engine.

@1FiftyOverland

8 күн бұрын

@ALMX5DP That is a mileage I came up with based on all my automotive knowledge and experience.

@ALMX5DP

8 күн бұрын

@@1FiftyOverland anything to share about how that decision was made? Like why not 3k?

@Pickuptrucktalk

8 күн бұрын

@@1FiftyOverland what’s interesting to me is everyone has a number. Scroll through the comments. Some are 3k, some 5k and your 4K. This doesn’t take into account all the vehicles that go 10k. Really interesting to me to see the disparity.

I got my dod deleted on my Silverado i don't have all that afm trash in my 5.3 no more

If you cut their recommended oil change interval in half, over the life of the vehicle what are you saving? Maybe a $1000? Doesn't seem too expensive long term for the potential problems you might avoid.

Folks THINK!!!! Thin oil is about CAFE numbers. 10k OC is marketing low maintenance costs. It will make it past warranty. New Zealand specs on my 4rnr is 5w-30 and 5w-40 sever service. EPA governs policy here. 5k OC 5w-30 on 4rnr and 5w-40 on f250 6.2l because it toqs 12k during shredding season. So do your homework and you decide what works for you, not the dealer or government.

@OtisFlint

8 күн бұрын

EPA does not govern policy. The mfg is free to recommend any oil they want.

@sheepdog3828

8 күн бұрын

@OtisFlint it's all based of govern.ent mandated CAFE numbers. Good day.

Got gdi 4popper change oil every 3 months

I use nothing else. Valvoline is a great oil. In the past, I've tried others and my vehicle always feels off. Switch back to Valvoline and over time, it works itself out.

Just stay in the house for two weeks till we flatten the curb

Penzoil and castrol. Also amzoil.

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

All of those companies make many different qualities of oil. Even Amsoil has 3 different lines, and only the top "signature" line is particularly good, but it doesn't technically meet API specs because it has too much ZDDP in it, which may damage emission systems. Pennzoil and Castrol are no longer owned by US companies (Shell and BP respectively). Valvoline is now owned by The Saudi Arabian Oil Company (Aramco).

Dealerships is the higher oil change intervals to save money. 5k miles or less. It’s your car, do what is best. We all have different driving conditions.

Most expert mechanics will all tell you no on the 7500 and 10000 mile oil changes. They have seen the inside of the newer engines and failers from the extended intervals

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

8 күн бұрын

Public school education... scientists analyze oil and engine wear NOT stealership quick-lube techs. Scientists do the actual, factual testing. Billy-Bob the mechanic has zero clue what oxidation is or means.

@OtisFlint

8 күн бұрын

You mean the people selling oil changes want more oil changes? Shocking.

@brianmaloney5430

8 күн бұрын

Not a engineer a tribologist. You do realize that the oems receive café credit for promoting longer oil changes. There are many master mechanics that see the oil sludging up in modern engines that push for 7500 and 10k oil changes. Also they have seen the low tension piston rings get stuck do to extended oil changes. When this happens the engine starts burning oil. You do realize the valvoline engineer never said it's ok to 10k miles. What about the lifetime tranny fluid gm and ford push? Many people who believe this have tranny failer between 80k and 120k miles.

@brianmaloney5430

8 күн бұрын

It's always in the lab under controlled environment. Bot rear world city driving.

@jimr549

7 күн бұрын

​@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADyou don't need to be a scientist or engineer to know what sludge and varnish buildup looks like. Perhaps the engineers need to pull apart some engines that have been serviced at their recommended intervals so they can see for themselves.

@3:30 This is why I don't listen to running super thin oil. I don't care about CAFE standards. I care about a 500k mi engine durability. 5k mi OIC is fine. Oil is cheap. If you want to run oil longer, run a bypass filter. Frankly I'm surprised the govt hasn't insisted on manufacturers implementing bypass filters. They allow you to run FAR longer OIC than you could otherwise.

In late 1970s and early 1980s there was a problem with certain oil brands headquartered in Pennsylvania forming extreme varnish and/or sludge at typical engine running temperatures? Valvoline was one of the oils that escaped the problems? (put on list as Approved by Toyota and/or Daimler- Benz ?

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

You are talking about conventional motor oil, known as Group II mineral oil. Group III synthetics (severely hydrocracked mineral oil or natural gas), and Group IV PAO based oils, don't have that problem anymore. It's 2024 now. Both Pennzoil and Quaker State are now 100% owned by Shell Oil, and they don't use "Pennsylvania grade crude oil" anymore. Pennzoil synthetics are made from severely hydrocracked natural gas, a process pioneered by Shell. Shell is a UK based company.

I tried new valvoline R and P in my f150 5.0. Ended up with a nasty knock that sounds like an intermittent stuck lifter. FordBossMe tried the same oil and had a vct solenoid failure a few thousand miles into it. I am thinking the oil is causing issues.

@mccarthymccarthy237

5 күн бұрын

My Coble time in chain clatter on start up replace tensioner heard it again I guess I’ll switch it out and see what happens might be Time for a change now replaced tensioner 50,000 miles ago I got 170 on the car

@Mali26120

3 күн бұрын

@@miscellaneous5215nah I tried restore and protect on my Chevy impala 3.6 and shortly after my catalytic converter clogged up & also a tapping noise , I switched back to Valvoline high mileage full synthetic

What intrigues me in the American forums and incursions is the low milage oil changes many claim doing. Then thinking 200,000 miles is high milage. In the old pre 2000 Japanese engines in small trucks we serviced at 6 to 7000 miles and got 450,000 miles out of those engines most every time. Toyota , Nissan , Mitsubishi.

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

It is a lot harder to get that much mileage out of an engine with GDI and if Turbo-charged, especially if using manufacturer specified 0W-16, or 0W-08 motor oil (0W-08 is now specified on some Toyota's). The old days are long gone.

@scooterwoodley195

2 күн бұрын

I drive a 2015 Mazda 6 with 450,000 miles on the clock and it still runs and shifts great. I change my oil every 5,000 miles and use the recommended 0w20 grade oil and am generally brand agnostic. I have used Walmart SuperTech for the past 150,000 miles and the gold Fram filter. For my last oil change,I used the new Valvoline Restore and Protect and took some before pics along with performing a compression test on all 4 cylinders. Will repeat the pics and compression test after 3 oil changes to see if any changes/improvements.

@Mark-rw3kw

2 күн бұрын

@@scooterwoodley195 Personally, I think it is a little dangerous to start using a motor oil with new additives in it after 450,000 miles. If there is any carbon buildup on the piston rings, the carbon may be filling in gaps from engine wear after that many miles, and it may do more harm than good to remove the carbon.

I think they don't want to pay dealerships anymore for oil changes. My truck had 5k intervals. After COVID and free oil changes expired they said I had to do it every 10k. I almost slapped the dude. How he come up with that answer 😂 after I was doing it for 3 years at 5k at the dealership!

After listening to Lake Speed Jr., I’m dropping from 5K to 3K immediately. Always felt these longer oil changes were bs but never knew what that guy knows. Oil changes are cheap.

What I would like to know is would it hurt to start using Restore & Protect in a newer car?

@Pickuptrucktalk

3 күн бұрын

I can’t imagine it would.

No Dexos certification?

Makes me wonder though, being the last of the motor oil companies with their own engine lab for testing. That's because most testing is usually done by an "independent" lab, to prevent any bias.

5~6k here !!! If I own it. 10~12k if it is a lease 😊

Do you drive regular or severe duty? Might want to check your owners manual before you decide on your oil change intervals.

@1gr8oil

7 күн бұрын

@jeffw6894....Actually, most people are driving in a "SEVERE DUTY" conditions.

@jeffw6894

7 күн бұрын

@@1gr8oil Yeah exactly, their driving habits or location falls under severe duty but they stretch out their OCI and wonder why they have problems down the road.

I came here for the comment from the "expert" backyard mechanics. "Back in 1968 when everything was made better and we used oil straight out the ground....." 😂

@OptimusKline-uz1ig

6 күн бұрын

Lmao!!! And they paid a quarter for a candy bar!

@chekelley6861

22 сағат бұрын

The stupidity in the comments is amazing!

I have used Valvoline full synthetic on my 06 explorer since new. Switched to full synthetic high mileage at 100,000. Now at 235,000, all original and runs like a top. I change my oil every 15,000 to 20,000 miles. I would not do this on a turbo or direct injection motor.

CAFE requirements are regulated by the NHTSA, not the EPA.

@Pickuptrucktalk

7 күн бұрын

It’s both actually. They work together on them.

@kenwilliams4086

7 күн бұрын

@Pickuptrucktalk To be more specific, CAFE standards are regulated by DOT's National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration (NHTSA). NHTSA sets and enforces the CAFE standards, while the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) verifies manufacturers' average fuel economy levels based on written test results provided by the manufacturers. The EPA performs targeted fuel economy confirmatitory test on approximately 15% of vehicles submitted for validation. The EPA also sets related GHG standards.

@Pickuptrucktalk

7 күн бұрын

@@kenwilliams4086 right. They have play a role in different ways. I’m confused on a point you are making.

@kenwilliams4086

7 күн бұрын

@Pickuptrucktalk my comment is in reference to some of the commentators stating that the EPA governs CAFE standards.

@Pickuptrucktalk

7 күн бұрын

@@kenwilliams4086 Got it. Sorry, you definitely had me confused.

And how are you suppose to know if this oil is really cleaning your piston rings

@Pickuptrucktalk

8 күн бұрын

Unless you take apart your engine and inspect it after successive oil changes, you won't.

My Lord oil changes are so simple and cheap its the life of your vehicle!!! Change it frequently. Most people fall under severe use driving conditions anyways without realizing it. 3k for me

@Mark-rw3kw

4 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, most new cars have added shields underneath the car to improve aerodynamics and eek out a tiny fuel mileage advantage, and getting those off and put back on is a bit of a pain on many cars.

@Deleteguest

4 күн бұрын

@@Mark-rw3kw That's your cue to go grab an angle grinder and cut an access hole into it.😂 I hate those stupid covers and shitty manufacturers who don't already have an access port you can unbolt to get to the drain plug and filter.

Problem is that one persons 10K miles is very different to another’s. All highway miles in a warm climate is a very different situation to all cold short trips in a cold wet climate… Makes blanket recommendations on the distance travelled less credible.

I do a lot of towing my boat 🚢 every 3,000 miles for me 😮

I find it weird. I've seen many v twin motorcycles with 80 to 100 000 miles on them and running smoothly. My point is that there are fewer additives in motorcycle oil because of the wet clutch. So maybe less is more 🤷‍♂️

@Pickuptrucktalk

6 күн бұрын

Different oils for different reasons. Valvoline explains it: www.valvolineglobal.com/en-ksa/the-complete-guide-to-choosing-motorcycle-engine-oil/#:~:text=Second%2C%20car%20engine%20oils%20contain,deposits%20and%20harm%20their%20components.