I'm surprised there's a lot of people trying to defend this game in the comments, just waving the points made in the video away with "oh it's in alpha" while the points brought up were more about the base concept of the game and the execution instead of diving into the nitty gritty on why FartyMcShitston has the worst ability that only does X or Y damage and whatnot, and telling people to be a bit cautious because Valve has a history of abandoning issues with their games such as CS2 which was released like a year ago but the developers already seem like they left en masse to work on Deadlock instead, leaving them with a few developers like some other Valve game with 2 in it's title. Even if you think that TF2 is a dead oldie game that people should stop playing and caring about, CS2 is not that, it's a brand new game Valve made that is getting a similar treatment to TF2, like how newly added content is community made, while having it's own different issues, such as the game launching with SEVERAL features missing that have STILL not been added back but were in the games predecessor (which got completely replaced by CS2), cheaters still being as rampant as ever, with the anti-cheat guys working way too slow to combat cheaters (probably because they are understaffed), now I'm not saying this will happen to Deadlock as well, and I hope it doesn't, I think the game looks promising and I would like to try it for myself, even if for a little bit, but with the track record of Valve practically abandoning every game that isn't DOTA 2, I'm not really sure this game will see extended support, I hope they prove me wrong, though. All in all, I hope Valve actually works on this game even a little bit post launch, or that it at least has that Valve charm and polish by the time it's released, because Valve knows how to make a good game, but they don't seem like they want to. Oh and Alyx was a great game I don't know what the point was with calling it a tech demo, other than that good video, I enjoyed it.

@d0ct0rz3d4

2 күн бұрын

Holy shit, I'm glad i'm not the only one who noticed there being a lot of people who are defending this game as well. For a game that's only in alpha like they say, it sure has a lot of people defending it for some reason.

@CoqueiroLendario

2 күн бұрын

Half life Alyx is a great technological marvel... but as a proper game, it is extremely short. To the point that the game seems to have been made second, and the technology for it first... so, tech demo.

@IAmSpecialCreature

2 күн бұрын

Yap yappington (agreed)

@luizfma3244

2 күн бұрын

@@CoqueiroLendario half life 2 playtime is 13 hours, alyx's is 12. Stop lying out of your ass lmao, just cause the game is short doesn't mean it's a tech demo, if that were true than every single player game valve ever made would be one.

@CoqueiroLendario

2 күн бұрын

@@luizfma3244 For the price tag asked for alyx... yeah it is too short. Thats the main difference.

People who remember Day of Defeat be like

@shinyrayquaza9

2 күн бұрын

Day of defeat is fun

@Tabby3456

2 күн бұрын

Damn, i wish we got a Day of Defeat 2 that got as much attention as CS:2

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

Bro day of defeat is fun

@somerandomkid9976

2 күн бұрын

​@@Tabby3456 So practically no attention?

@Kacper42PL

2 күн бұрын

Alien Swarm

Insane how Valve could technically just make TF2 Source 2 using CS2 as a base but they decided to make a game that isn't needed on the current gaming landscape. I dont know why is Valve so obsessed with mobas

@flamingscar5263

2 күн бұрын

reminder that Valve is not 1 company, while they are legally, devs are given free roam to make whatever they want, and deadlock is being lead by the same person, Icefrog, who made Dota, that should explain a lot, with Valve its best to imagine them as a bunch of indie teams with infinite money Edit: to add to what I am saying, Valve did not choose to make Deadlock, Icefrog chose to make Deadlock, Valve as a company makes 0 decisions, its ENTIRELY the devs at Valve that make the decisions, no managers, no executives (other than Gaben), only devs

@novostranger

2 күн бұрын

​​@@flamingscar5263 it's no longer like that, valve themselves said it in the hla book.

@flamingscar5263

2 күн бұрын

@@novostranger they said that for Half life Alyx SPECIFICALLY they changed the way they make games, the company culture did not change at all, but the way they make games changed SPECIFICALLY for Half Life Alyx, Valve didn't say anything about changing how the company as a whole works, just that for Half Life Alyx they changed things up, but not that it was a permanent change, after Half Life Alyx, things went back to normal, at least normal in Valve terms

@Goat_Girl_Gwen

2 күн бұрын

Except that CS2 messed up so badly I wouldn’t even want Valve to do that to TF2

@novostranger

2 күн бұрын

@@Goat_Girl_Gwen You're comparing release CS2 to today's CS2. CS2 now has perfected Source movement

As a diehard Final Fantasy XIV player with a good 1300 hours in Warframe, it's the first thing I noticed: the camera in Deadlock is so SUFFOCATING. It's so up close to your character that it takes half of your screen, and you can barely see what happens around you. It feels like playing with TF2's default 75 degrees fov

@hevnet

2 күн бұрын

As a random KZread user, I will take your comment as Gospel simply due to the fact that you listed 4 different games.

@bounceycake1

2 күн бұрын

Hope you're enjoying Dawntrail, fellow Eorzian ;)

@LordRemiem

2 күн бұрын

@@bounceycake1 I am, fellow eorzean ❤ you too

@falco5148

2 күн бұрын

​@@hevnetquit yapping. the game should give us the option to change FOV if valve is still good at making games

@Teal_ST

2 күн бұрын

​​@@LordRemiem Random question What is your main job, and what race do you play in FFXIV?

As right as you are about Valve Half Life Alyx is absolutely not just a tech demo and is one of the best games they’ve ever made and the best VR game at that

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

I agree, Ill admitt I undersell it. But you look at how technically impressive Alyx was and then look at CS2 or this, not as remarkable I find.

@kornflakes8983

2 күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline Have u even played the game?

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

@@kornflakes8983 I haven't played Alyx because I don't think it's fair or smart to buy a 300 dollar VR headset on the low end and then a 80 dollar game and only use it for that purpose. But with the knowledge that I haven't played the game, are you going to argue that I shouldn't sing it's praise? Even though I've admitted I under sold it?

@TheMikirog

2 күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline The issue I feel is talking about games and having opinions about them without playing them. But that seems to be the standard on social media these days.

@stormer7502

2 күн бұрын

lmao yeah that was the most lazy ass opinion. as expected he hasnt played it.

Spending 1/4th of your video reading the Wikipedia page for Valve Corporation is peak KZread video essay rot

@skyeunknown8076

12 сағат бұрын

Noticed that too Creativity is dead

I just wish they made more single player games like hl or portal (new ips are perferd) then they also dont need to keep up with them as well. Portal is still fine after all these years

@tunnelrunner8253

2 күн бұрын

I would prefer new IP's too but I also want them to finish stories that they start first and foremost.

@PhoenixFox5577

2 күн бұрын

@@tunnelrunner8253All they really need to do is finish Half-Life with a Half-Life 3 and then make the Team Fortress 2 Comic Finale and then they can make all the new IPs they want. Portal’s story is already done and so is Left 4 Dead’s!

@tunnelrunner8253

2 күн бұрын

@@PhoenixFox5577 Yeah, this is what I'm thinking perfectly. I don't need TF3 or HL4 or whatever. Valve just needs to do a Max Payne 3-esque sequel for HL3 and Comic 7 to put a bow on the TF story. L4D though I think could use a more concrete answer for the fate of the L4D2 survivors, something like a Sacrifice campaign for them would be great too. TBH though I could take just HL3 and walk away happy.

@Boomrainbownuke9608

2 күн бұрын

@@tunnelrunner8253 none of that is happening. most of the people that are needed for those are no longer working at valve.

@tunnelrunner8253

2 күн бұрын

@@Boomrainbownuke9608 If Alyx can happen, then any of those things I listed can happen. I KNOW the TF comic can happen as the person working on the Deadlock VN is the same person who did the TF comics, IIRC.

Remember BattleBorn? Valve does apparently.

@drivanradosivic1357

2 күн бұрын

I remember, plus if you have it on Steam, madlads made a mod that allows you to play it. Battleborn had Story mode, PVE, vs bots and PVP, if it was offline capable and server hosting and LAN hosting capable, people would make community servers.

@ProxyDoug

2 күн бұрын

Or Super Monday Night Combat

@drivanradosivic1357

2 күн бұрын

Super Monday Night Combat is also good. Battleborn and SMNC need a relaunch with offline capability and server hosting.

@bhaalgorn

21 сағат бұрын

Deadlock is awesome, and many people who are getting invited to test it are saying its got huge potential. These videos are going to age very poorly.

@johncruelty1

16 сағат бұрын

@@bhaalgorn its shit

Man hearing about this game really makes me miss Battleborn. It wasnt perfect, but it blended the FPS and MOBA styles pretty well. I loved how unique each character felt, the PvE story was fun, the map designs for PvP were pretty good from what i remember as melee characters weren't completely screwed by egregious sightlines or anything. I hope it can come back one day, but it probably won't.

@markhirsch6301

2 күн бұрын

Never know, an offline mod or even player ran servers might be developed

@drivanradosivic1357

2 күн бұрын

Good news, Battleborn Discord guys made a in progress Reborn Project mod that allows you to play it offline. I missed it so much!

@ohno5507

Күн бұрын

It really was a wrong place wrong time kind of affair. If it came out today I think it would be a lot more successful.

@d0ct0rz3d4

Күн бұрын

@@markhirsch6301I highly doubt that will happen with deadlock.

@goldeklee

Күн бұрын

@@ohno5507 Battleborn had a *bit* more than that, but that definitely was a heavy aspect of its demise. The other problem was that people didn't know what the hell the game was supposed to be. Was it a MOBA? An FPS? An RPGFPS? We got a bunch of different answers from Randy, and the answers kinda changed around here and there before finally being described as, and I shit you not, "FPS; hobby-grade coop campaign; genre-blended, multi-mode competitive e-sports; meta-growth, choice + epic Battleborn Heroes!" Needless to say, it's hard to want to buy a game that seems to be to be trying so hard to be everything, but gets coy when you want specifics. The game was good, but holy shit was the marketing mismanaged to hell and back. Which makes me wonder where Deadlock is going to stand on this weird Shooter MOBA space.

Man calls Alyx a $900 tech demo made to push the Index, casually ignores that it natively supports multiple VR headsets of competing brands and is the only VR game I've played to date that I'd actually call a game and not a tech demo or "experience" Seriously , if you connect your existing gaming PC to it via USB, Alyx can be played on an Oculus Quest 1, 2 or 3 all which run $300 or less. Not saying you're trying to mislead people or anything, just that some of the facts are missing.

@americanschoolsystem

2 күн бұрын

it wasnt an integral part to what he was talking about

@2pizza847

2 күн бұрын

still for very rich people, so yeah, a tech demo for a toy that only 1 in 10 000 can have

@gowanlore2434

2 күн бұрын

>It's a tech demo because I'm poor.

@godmer1020

2 күн бұрын

@@2pizza847 they are really not, you can look into pico 4 headsets or quest 2, they are priced like a ps4 and do their job well

@RedHeavy-

2 күн бұрын

@@2pizza847a quest 2 is not that expensive though 200$ new and like 140$ used. (You don’t need a high storage if you’re gonna play pcvr.)

Correction: 1.6 is way, WAY faster than cs. Not slower. Faster. Numerous amounts of people that migrated from 1.6 pointed out that csgo felt slower and clunkier, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE CSGO NECESSARILY WORSE. It's just that their movement and gunplay are very different. There are hundreds of things cs improved on but movement (ESPECIALLY movement) is not one of them.

@Pinkooru

2 күн бұрын

The vibe of playing 1.6 and getting instantly domed by some guy bhopping with a deagle was completely lost on CS:GO and CS2 The whimsy got sucked outta it, 1.6 is the best one.

@pinkddpat

2 күн бұрын

@@Pinkooru Preferences and biases are not valid in determining which is "best", only valid in determining which YOU like the best. i like csgo the best for many reasons. you like cs 1.6 the best for many reasons. i like 1.6's movement a bit more than csgo's movement, but many other things that are present in csgo that arent in 1.6 make the experience better for me (such as matchmaking, its a goldmine of hilarity) If you want to have the discussion of "WHICH IS THE BEST ONE????" then do it without your bias, cuz csgo IS objectively better as a competitive fps for MANY MANY MANY reasons that i am too lazy to type in

@AmelpsXett

30 минут бұрын

the creator of this video is talking out of his ass. He wasnt around when all of these "groundbreaking" games were released, he doesnt actually understand their significance, he's just regurgitates someone else's opinions

If I may, I'd like to provide some constructive criticism: 1. A lot of the first part of the video was unnecessary, it can be assumed that most people watching this video know who Valve are and the legacy they had on gaming. Plenty of people are well aware Valve revolutionized gaming, it's praises are sung regularly. 2. Calling Half-Life Alyx a "glorified tech demo" is quite a stretch, it is very much a complete game in most people's eyes. 3. It was barely acknowledged that DeadLock is still in its alpha stage, and this review kind of treats the game as a final product. It's not entirely fair to say the game definitively sucks when it's far away from its full potential. 4. The balance discussion could be a little biased since you clearly love TF2 and have very little experience with MOBA games. Especially since it sounds like you have very few hours in the game. As for positives, your editing is fantastic, and you have a very nice narration voice. Keep up the good work.

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

I disagree with 1. Building and showing Valve's impact in the gaming sphere to what they've been doing now was needed, could argue it was too long but it's needed. 2. Yeah I under sell Alyx hard here, tech demo isn't the correct word I should have used. Still think there's validity in criticizing their most impressive game from a narrative and tech standpoint to VR however 3. The problem with this is that ignores the actual core problems I've have with the game in its current state. If I wanted to complain about how poorly balanced Paradox was or how the current art assets look bad, then it would be a valid criticism. Problem is I complain about the core gameplay features, things that can't be easily changed without changing everything else in the game. Where the camera is placed, how much information is shown to you and the visual acuity of fights. There's no true talk of balance in thid video, at most there's that 15 second clip where I question the games balance but understand it's not in a final state and is subject to change. 4. I obviously have more experience and time in the shooter category than the MOBA, and my channel be dedicated to TF2 doesn't help with that visual bias. However, I've actually played a great deal of MOBA's before. Not to the same extent as shooters but enough to where I can confidentially understand and know the fundamental ins and outs of the genre, what works and what doesn't. The true irony is that if I had more hours in the MOBA genre than the Shooter one and said the same complaints, I'd still be told I have a bias because I've played MOBA's more than Shooters. People are looking too deep at my connection with TF2 to actually see the claims I've laid out. And I lot of them are looking at what's happening to TF2 and just saying I'm coping, ignoring that CS2 faces the same issues but somehow putting complete blind faith into Deadlock that it will be different despite evidence pointing otherwise

@pian-0g445

Күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnlineexcept you never made any criticism points on Alyx as a game? Tech is understandable. For the intended experience, it costs a lot (but you can stop play it with any pc vr, so even a used oculus for £100). Alyx is a full game. In day, it’s basically a main title in the series weirdly. And even if you’ve had enough with the story, there’s lots of mods (cause it’s source 2) that provides many different experiences. Like one where you’re like John Wick going into a night club. Straight up, it is one of the only ‘AAA’ type vr games out there, and has set a very high standard on what should be expected in the future.

@AmelpsXett

25 минут бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline 1. Cope, you're just parroting what everyone else said just to try and add some credibility to bashing valve 2. just shows how emotionally driven you are. 3. 70% of your deadlock critique is stuff that will change and the rest is stuff that isnt clearly emebellished yet. 4. yeah sure though actually if you had more hours in MOBA i would respect your opinion a bit more, since Deadlock is moba first.

Y'all remember Ricochet? Me and the boys love Ricochet. Also, recently I just watched a video about Rainbow Six Siege. The guy in it said that Ubisoft was nerfing guns to make utility more appealing, because early on in the game's life cycle people relied on utility, but then they got better and started running and gunning, and Ubisoft wanted to make people use utlity again. I can very easily see something like this happening, where mechanical skill far out paces the MOBA elements, so either the game's gameplay is balanced to put a stop or it just turns into over complicated Overwatch. It's almost like First Person Shooter game's shooter elements will usually steal the light, and people should stop making non-fps genre games in a first person perspective with guns.

@aoooso6000

2 күн бұрын

its like, wooh that a big shocker we designed a game around shooting and shooting and not being shot became the best strategy. why would you make a shooter if thats not something you want to happen

@ChesterManfred

Күн бұрын

I fairly prefer rocket/sticky jumping over tapping a single key to perform a big jump

@gergom.8310

Күн бұрын

Ricochet ❤

@AmelpsXett

28 минут бұрын

lmao how dense can you be? "and people should stop making non-fps genre games in a first person perspective" Because why? Why limit creativity like that? Have you ever played Siege btw? Have you ever actually tried understanding that game, or are you under the belief that all fps games are meant to be played with head turned off?

@aoooso6000

5 минут бұрын

@@AmelpsXett he is not saying we shouldn't make none fps games, he is saying if your making a fps game dont be surprised wen the shooting in first person shooter is the most important mechanic.

I feel that describing half life alyx as a tech demo is a bit underselling it. Its arguably the best vr game on the market.

@Lenn869

Күн бұрын

doesnt mean much

@jackattack347

Күн бұрын

@@Lenn869 right

@ChesterManfred

Күн бұрын

Source 2 with VR support gives people endless opportunities, what the first one did, 2 can probably do it better, as long as you have a pretty penny

calling Half Life: Alyx a "tech demo" is absurd

@HowyDarko

2 күн бұрын

Ikr

@dr.digitamil6986

2 күн бұрын

Only a person who never played HLA could say something like that

@stormer7502

2 күн бұрын

and thats how you instantly know everything which will come out of his mouth regarding this game will be nonsense

@2pizza847

2 күн бұрын

@@dr.digitamil6986 you mean, 99% of gamers who can't affort a 1000$+ vr set just to play a 100$ tech demo?

@godmer1020

2 күн бұрын

@@2pizza847 vr in to that expensive these days, and alyx is as much of a tech demo as hl2, it's incredible that valve have done so much with this game

As someone with over 100 hours, I enjoy the game immensely. The sliding and air dashing being changed together makes encounters very fun, and melee allows even supports to get significant DPS in. It's a MOBA with most of the fat trimmed, and most of the art assets are going to be replaced. We're seeing a game in very early development, a large amount of the cast is getting wholesale entirely new designs, and I think it's a bit too early to judge this. Clearly so, as they haven't announced this project in a public way. A lot of characters are still using portraits and models from Neon Prime, animations aren't finished, etc. but I find it to be a blast to play when you're playing with friends who are also locked in.

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

I do genuinely enjoy the artstyle, 1920's Occultism is unique, new and fresh and Seven is by far the highlight of that design principle. That being said though, the gameplay needs to go into the oven longer.

@TrafficPartyHatTest

2 күн бұрын

Pardon me, but, I don't really see much of an art style that's really different from Overwatch. I mean, I can kind of see it whenever it's calmer in footage (which is rare).

@1e0isfdkorblpg

2 күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline idk gameplay feels good. Much better than anything remotely similar to the game.

@2pizza847

2 күн бұрын

You could've used less words to say that you are a shit eater. Ig you are dine with ai generated characters and tons of cancer mechanics

@2pizza847

2 күн бұрын

​@@SpaceGuyOnlineshitlock has no style lol. It looks generic and gives off riot games vibe for some reason. Even valorant at least has a bit of personality, unlike this hot garbage

actual video starts at 5:30

@Raiman099

2 күн бұрын

thanks, im adding a sponsor block segment

@Maranara

2 күн бұрын

@@Raiman099 Sponsor block my goat...

@trevororchard3152

2 күн бұрын

​@@Raiman099 what?

@taureon_

2 күн бұрын

​@@Raiman099 why?

@lordghastly9537

2 күн бұрын

this comment makes no sense

You mention nothing of the damage fall off at range, which is how they're attempted to negate having no fog of war.

@localidiot450

Күн бұрын

pretty sure he mentioned something about the bodyshot damage being horrible at range, but still preventing the enemy from being able to regen and headshots being able to do good damage even at range so not exactly?

@fabienalla_

4 сағат бұрын

@@localidiot450 good damage? 10:43 9 shots, 4 of them is headshots, total damage : 24. Did someone even watch the screen?

Imagine getting stomped by a coordinating team in a moba and being so mad at your Abrams player for not eating the stuns for you, that you had to make a video essay about how Valve is washed up.

@ZALYVES

12 сағат бұрын

Most of the people who whine havent even tried the game lol. This video wont age well.

>extremely negative deadlock review >look inside >tf2 player

seeing gameplay of this for the first time; it looks something that came out a few years ago and already had its servers shut down

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

Like Zombie fortnite.

@me67galaxylife

2 күн бұрын

chinese game

@Acidicheartburn

2 күн бұрын

I couldn't put my finger on the vibe I was getting until now. You nailed it.

@realrx001

2 күн бұрын

@@me67galaxylife These "Chinese" or "Overwatch" looking games are a perfect reflection of the studios we have developing these games. Siphoned of all passion, creativity, and love for their projects, just effin lazy. NOBODY is creating new IP's that are actually disruptive to the industry anymore, nobody wants to raise the bar at all or take a single risk. Inbred corporate hellscape.

@me67galaxylife

2 күн бұрын

@@realrx001 yes, and it's especially weird coming from valve after half life : alyx

One minor correction - game is not in a beta state, its in a closed alpha state. You know, the whole "Don't share information about the game" state

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

The entire game has already been datamined and leaked in addition to there being a cheating problem. This is the 3rd iteration of the game thats its gone through and there's already plans to create cosmetics and have a shop for what's currently present. I think it's fair to say it's nearing finalization.

@H0ney166

2 күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline I mean, you're making an assumption here that the current state is close to the final form. Either way, my main point was that its in the alpha state - this video should have been an elaborate message to the devs, who you're playtasting the game for, not a public video that violates the guidelines.

@Goat_Girl_Gwen

2 күн бұрын

@@H0ney166 people have posted and talked about deadlock so much, I don’t think valve cares.

@jessicamartin2113

2 күн бұрын

@@H0ney166 "waa waa don't give your honest opinion of a billion dollar corporation on their crappy moba hero shooter, that will hurt their feelings" is basically what your saying. stop trying to cover for these anti consumer video game corporations, they are getting the exact reaction they deserve.

@Uomelette

2 күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline the game is nowhere near finalization, i like your vids but talking as a game dev and level designer you have no idea what you're talking about here, the animations and assets are barebones presentable, there's tons of assets that are missing and there's new content added every week or so, balance shifts around like no tomorrow, the "iterations" were STYLE /world iterations, similar to what portal 1 went through in its super early dev phase, the game was trying to find its identity bc its a still unborn baby far from birth, now with a settled style actual further development can happen. Calling a closed alpha that isnt even officially announced in any way shape or form "dead" is crazy. This isnt CS2 being fully out and playable lacking content, this is like judging half life 2 based on the mapleaks from 2003. I dont know how the final result will be and how it'll fare in a very overmatured hero shooter market but I think people should actually wait for the game to release before giving it any sort of review. Just some thoughts.

Holy fuck, that Ui....

@joltganda

2 күн бұрын

I think it could be a lot worse. All the super important info is big and in your face (maybe too big) and the info you don’t immediately need to know is small and out of the way. But like. Please god make the top part smaller.

@d00gz_

2 күн бұрын

I thought the same. League has a lot of info onscreen, but it does a really good job of condensing it into small easily readable chunks that keep the screen largely open. It’s pretty much all divided into two main pieces on the bottom middle and bottom right corner, plus the tab button showing you a larger view. Deadlock looks like it’s trying to give every hud element its own spot on the screen and it’s visually claustrophobic.

@kuricodes_

2 күн бұрын

tfw the closed alpha of a game has issues that need to be ironed out 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

​@@joltgandahe literally points out how being stunned is on the far left if your screen.

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

​@@joltgandahe literally points out how being stunned is on the far left if your screen.

At this point, I just don't trust Valve with a competitive multiplayer game. Obviously, TF2 has been left to dust, but between it, CS2, Artifact, and Dota Underlords, why should I trust Valve to keep it running?

@novostranger

2 күн бұрын

The game is gonna be an unreadable sweatfest like overwatch, I don't know why Valve thought it was such a good idea to try to like them

@1mariomaniac

2 күн бұрын

They won't keep it running, it's "treadmill work"

@FabioMafu

2 күн бұрын

Tf2 is 17 years old, still has players... cs2 just got 2 new maps.. dota 2 is still getting updated with new heroes.. wtf are you talking about, sure they left 17 year old tf2, dosnt mean they won't keep shit running.

@Goat_Girl_Gwen

2 күн бұрын

@@FabioMafu wow.. 2 whole community made maps… while many of the original game’s maps aren’t even in the game. Valve did no work in adding those maps to the game, stop acting like they did.

@furious5508

2 күн бұрын

@@Goat_Girl_Gwen It's been leaked multiple times that they are working on reworks for old maps like cobble, train etc, operation, danger zone, comestic stuff. All this movement is seen by the data miners, they don't just casually add new random words into the files. So yes, they are working on CS2, now stop crying.

Your editing has gotten much better, good work

The gameplay in the background is visually exhausting. The sheer amount of effects and constant ability spam is unbearable to look at. Complete sensory overload. Not to mention that absolute cluster cluck of a UI.

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

Most games have this sort of "What exactly is going on" phase but you eventually learn what X and Y does and can actually read a fight. I have nearly 55 hours on deadlock now and I'll often get into a fight and not understand what's on my screen

@novostranger

2 күн бұрын

@@DarknerSoul It's unreadable and it reminds of another unreadable game that is Overwatch, game looks be designed for Fortnite players

@N00btr00per

2 күн бұрын

​@@SpaceGuyOnlinei have 100h in dota and no clue what happens in fights.

@dtm2741

2 күн бұрын

honestly i think you're just being picky, this is better than DoTA at least

@theonebuns

2 күн бұрын

it actually is very easy to get used to.

Deadlock feels like a bit of a show of ego on valve's part. "We made the benchmark for class based shooters, and quite literally created the MOBA genre, so we should absolutely be able to pull off doing both at the same time."

@d0ct0rz3d4

22 сағат бұрын

@@Bobobunga since the game is pretty much a 3rd person MOBA I'm assuming it's going to be another community infested with esports sweats. I don't play those types of games, but from what I've heard you can't play those games casually.

it's insane that game companies think they can maintain and balance 40 different characters while releasing new ones every couple months

Alyx doesn’t require an index, you can play it on any shitty vr headset.

A NON-TF2 VIDEO!?!!! NAH THAT'S NOT SPACEGUYONLINE THATS SPACEMANOFFLINE!!

Poor artifact wasn't even mentioned. And fair to be honest I barely remember that game.

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

Another possibility they shut that game down it's possible they shut this game down too.

@ChesterManfred

Күн бұрын

​@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625I really want a Heavy Update, gladly

@notthesharpesttool555

21 сағат бұрын

it was tho @ 4:40 but fuck that game, waste of time and resources

the game's not even fucking out yet

@ragewireloki6213

2 күн бұрын

I mean he helped to play test it. His video is about how the games very concept cannot work.

@b.w.s3165

2 күн бұрын

"Why are you shitting on my plate?" "How do you know it's shit? It's not even out yet!"

@fakepretender

2 күн бұрын

@@b.w.s3165 goated comment

@ChesterManfred

Күн бұрын

​@@b.w.s3165That's such a sickeningly violent answer, 10/10 I can't stop laughing

@punkypony5165

22 сағат бұрын

@@ChesterManfred Are you new to the internet its an old meme

Screw this, I’m going back to Ricochet

I appreciate that you are giving some valid critiques to the design unlike a lot of other people who looked at it and just said that it looks “soulless” and “uninspired”. Not to say any of this isn’t necessarily untrue but as everyone has said a lot of these assets are placeholders and this game is super early in development. I’m personally not interested in the game because I’m tired of hyper competitive 10-12 player live service slop

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

Criticized the gameplay more than the art and current balance, I've said in a couple comments now I genuinely do enjoy the direction the art style is going. Originally when I saw the world, I thought the grey and beige buildings were bland but actually playing the game with very nicely designed characters lead me to appreciate them. Makes the characters stand out and shine a lot more, and the character designs are quite nice, the art style is 100% the highlight. Course just because something looks good...

Describing HL:A as a tech demo is wildly ignorant lmao

This guy's never getting invited back to playtest Valve games lol

“Amazing drink” MF it’s not ayahuasca its tea with 11 herbs and spices

HDR lighting didn't come to HL2 until the episodes. That's what lost coast was for - to show off the new HDR tech that source engine had

@thesensur6214

Күн бұрын

@@helohel5915 Reading through the comments I'm realising that entire opening portion is filled with so many lies lmao

Its very clear that you don't understand Dota and games similar to it.

8:35 Smite is a 3rd person MoBA instead of top-down and it's done it fine. I don't think that's necessarily a negative point against Deadlock, because the people who love Smite, cite the camera and aiming as being major reasons why they prefer it over something like LoL or DotA

@taibro3868

Күн бұрын

smite is slightly top down decently zoomed out, so you have complete vision that follows your natural eye field

@ParallaxSound315

Күн бұрын

@@taibro3868 it's not top down at all. You control where you aim and the camera follows that. The zoom is also up to personal preference. You can zoom in and out, which would probably be an issue if Deadlock doesn't have that feature

@terminl1327

20 сағат бұрын

@@ParallaxSound315 Given how early on we are I absolutely think we will either see an adjustment to FOV and/or a variable setting for it in the future

@jiaan100

20 сағат бұрын

​@@ParallaxSound315deadlock has up and down aiming, smite doesn't (if I remember correctly from 10 years ago)

@ParallaxSound315

20 сағат бұрын

@@jiaan100 it doesn't have up and down aiming, but you can move the camera up and down

You could go more into the connections of Super Mario 64 and Half-life. Like not only is SM64 Gabe newell's favorite game, it also made him realize that video games are art. That inspiration really helped him with Half-life.

@ChesterManfred

Күн бұрын

I love the idea of "make games you would play" so much

Regardless of your opinions of Deadlock, I can't take this video seriously due to a huge lack of due diligence. A lot of the stuff you say about Valve, good or bad, either omits key info or is just wrong (I posted another comment about this). Alyx being a tech demo, lack of research about Dota 2, implying HL2 innovated things it didn't, etc. Even your Deadlock facts are wrong like 10:26 when you say there's no penalty for harassing people from afar. Except this game has the biggest damage fall-out in any video game and even has items revolving around this mechanic. Surely you would know this if you played the game? Overall this feels like content for the sake of content. Not every opinion you have has to become a video. I'm not even saying I agree or disagree with your analysis of Deadlock, although that certainly has its share of problems. I'm just bothered by how hastily this video was put together.

@awsomebot1

Күн бұрын

Worse yet, there's absolutely no mention of Monday Night Combat or Smite or any other 3rd person MOBA except Gigantic. Even though the existence of these games go against your notion that MOBA games have to be top-down. These games also have disables/cc which you say doesn't fit a shooter and is basically unfixable now that they're in the game. Again, disables in 3rd person Mobas are dime a dozen. If Valve wants to tone it down they can, it's a beta. Same goes for most of your complaints e.g. in regards to the UI. Just goes to show how much more cooking this video needed.

@lada-uw3fg

Күн бұрын

yep this is video essay slop at it's finest

Valve gives us stuff we didn’t ask for but the stuff we do ask for is just ignored

@bobertastic6541

2 күн бұрын

What a great company, gives us not the game we asked for, but the game we didn’t need!

@Artician

8 сағат бұрын

Pros of private companies: They aren't pressured to make slop by investors Cons: They can still not give a flying f*ck about you

Gigantic is such a good game. It has its problems but the main game play is fun and rewarding it makes up for it.

man why did you put the hl2 ep2 ending I was about to beat it.

@c-h-a-d

2 күн бұрын

Bro, game is older than most of us here

@1mariomaniac

2 күн бұрын

@@c-h-a-d It's still inconsiderate, especially since the video isn't even about Half-Life.

@argonhammer9352

2 күн бұрын

​@@c-h-a-dI think he was joking

@c-h-a-d

2 күн бұрын

@@1mariomaniac what the sigma

@Exalted888

2 күн бұрын

its 17 years old

to everyone saying that the game is dead, doesn’t understand the potential. not saying to be mean, its literally that one joker meme (you wouldn’t get it). you just have to try it and everything will click.

I honestly kind of cant believe deadlock is real. It sounds like a 2007 video that is just making up new games. "The xbox 370 will have this new game, deadlock! Its like tf2 AND dota! How cool is that!"

Gigantic has some real TF2 vibes to those lower UI icons.

gigantic did not succeed at anything. Theres a reason the game has 60 players

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

Okay now then why would deadlock succeed then if the genre is a failure?

@Morgan_grail

Күн бұрын

Making a paid moba is the absolute stupidest idea I have ever seen

I think for me the most shocking thing about the Deadlock footage is how I literally can't keep up with it. Maybe it's just my adhd brain. But the combination of the constant flashing colors, immense amount of ui elements, constant camera movement trying to keep up with the player model, all the health bars, character portraits, dozens of icons that mean God knows what... There's so much visual stuff happening all at once in this game play that I don't think I could play it even if I wanted to. This looks legitimately stressful to play.

@brigeter

15 сағат бұрын

This is what everyone says about every MOBA until they actually play it

@d0ct0rz3d4

14 сағат бұрын

@@brigeter mobas are shit.

@brigeter

14 сағат бұрын

@@d0ct0rz3d4 Almost like people can enjoy different genres of games, amazing!

@d0ct0rz3d4

13 сағат бұрын

@@brigeter Do you like esports and mtx?

I’ve played it and I think it’s pretty damn fun coming from A Dota 2 addict, anyone wants to ignore the negativity and give it a shot yourself to make your own decision. Let me know I’ll invite you.

Dota 2 actually feeling itself fine ngl

For the record Dota 2 is extremely active with constant balance and content patches, much like how TF2 used to be in the day

you are kinda forgetting that it's in such an early and closed alpha test state that it hasn't even been officially announced yet so much to the point that they are probably not happy with the footage you are using of it in this video lol

@rusticrexl

2 күн бұрын

Hes talking about the concept of the game itself, its silly and doesnt work well together. No matter how much of tweaking there will be its still a shooter moba

@alexanderraz.

Күн бұрын

They’re deffo gonna ban him from playing it lol

Deadlocks fun. shooting isnt its focus. But movement is very enjoyable. Im not sure if the game would be popular because moba gameplay is countrr intuitive to most, but there's plenty in the alpha that greatly enjoy it.

@Greyinkling276

Күн бұрын

Yeah it's weird though most moba players seem to love it and pick it up but then there's a large number you queue up with who clearly are trying to play it like it's overwatch and they don't get how people aren't just diving constantly, hiding behind a tower, and then seem to steamroll them later.

@jiaan100

20 сағат бұрын

Weird to say shooting isnt it's focus when headshots do extra damage and if you miss it does no damage

Did you say any of these complaints on the feedback forum?

@simboyc100

2 күн бұрын

If they did then how could they take advantage of their Alpha acess to make a bad faith doom and gloom video that'sactually about TF2 being neglected? TFtubers being TFtubers.

@TheOneTheyCallShandy

2 күн бұрын

I doubt it.

@Oxolot1337

Күн бұрын

No, in the video you can even see him instantly declining a feedback thing that pops up when his match ended.

@whointhewho

21 сағат бұрын

​@@Oxolot1337I don't think that's his own footage

@terminl1327

20 сағат бұрын

@@whointhewho His name pops up in the killfeed several times.

> Tell about shooting far without fog of war > Doesnt tell about damage fall > 10:43 9 shots, 4 of them is headshots, total damage : 24. Genius

Valve is medieval Mongolian empire over extended thinning out group of devs only one person working on TF2 which is unfair

@KudoRedfox

2 күн бұрын

And his potted plant on CS2

"Half Life Alyx is largely held back by being a VR exclusive title, with a 900 dollar buy in to play" 1. How is the game "held back" by being VR? Its a VR game, it was meant to be VR from the very beginning. It wouldnt be Half Life Alyx if it wasnt VR. 2. I dont know who started that idiotic myth that you NEED an Index to play the game, but the reality is it supports every single HMD on the market. You could have gotten a WMR at launch for around 200$, or right now a Quest 2 for 300$. 3. "Tech demo" also applies to HL1 and HL2 by that logic, because those games were showcases for Valves GoldSRC and Source 1 engine at the time.

nah man im in the beta and the game is great, i wont lie i was skeptical from the leaked footage but after i got in its basically the only game i play anymore. its my favorite aspects of mobas and shooter rolled into one and i am up every night on the dot as soon as servers open to play it for hours

@monicavix6036

2 күн бұрын

For your sake I hope Valve doesn't let the game become cheater heaven or abandon it.

@keyboardstalker4784

2 күн бұрын

You’re a sick freak.

@gerekugereku4315

2 күн бұрын

@@monicavix6036 "I hope Valve doesn't [thing Valve did with a bunch of its other titles]" One can be hopeful, but given history, it's not looking good for it

@Something_Disgusting

2 күн бұрын

​@@gerekugereku4315 Valve's woken up for TF2 recently. Maybe we can expect better things in the future.

@medicgaming5204

2 күн бұрын

Well valve just hunted down tf2 cheaters and bot hosters They are aware of it, and im sure they have a plan@gerekugereku4315

The terminology in this video is weird AF... "Deadlock is ADVERTISED as a 6v6 MOBA shooter" - no it isn't. I hasn't even been announced yet, let alone advertised.

@Artician

7 сағат бұрын

Gabe Follower and his consequences

This really seems like a video made by a guy who went into the game specifically to hate it and ignored all the signs that it's in early development and you shouldn't say anything about it. The game is fun, no need to cope just because of the state of TF2

Its a playtest and hes mad about it not having anticheat. nah blud

Dota's doing pretty good, actually. The last patch was a massive gamechanger that's widely beloved. Seems like that game has its own 'dota team' - but the releases for new stuff, especially new heroes, is VERY slow.

@Finnboy-ml5jv

2 күн бұрын

Yes. When we eat, we eat good. The famines in-between the eating sessions however are excruciatingly lengthy.

@madmaninaboxstudios-xl6zz

2 күн бұрын

@@Finnboy-ml5jv that sound like valve with almost everything they have done since they started back in 1998 tbh

@terminl1327

20 сағат бұрын

@@Finnboy-ml5jv Personally I prefer it to how Riot handles things. I am antsy for ringmaster to come out but seeing Riot pump out a new character or rework every couple months all of which are pretty much invariably totally busted doesn't seem preferable to me.

@Finnboy-ml5jv

19 сағат бұрын

@@terminl1327 Definitely wasn't arguing here that riot is better at this for sure.

@UgandaMagus

13 сағат бұрын

@@terminl1327 Yeah Riot pop a new champion every couple months, but none of them has "personality"

I feel like the core concept of the video isn't bad but the reasoning and opinions you have in your video are very misleading. A game is a game and with a new game like DL you will have a learning curve and from the footage you have provided you were definitely not past that learning curve. Note that the video is in an Alpha and even Valve themselves are not even ready to talk about it, so obviously it will have flaws.

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

This footage is largely outdated and obviously yes, the game will have flaws. But it's the magnitude of those flaws that really worry me in regards to the games state. Camera position is a massive one and thats not something that can be easily fixed without rebuilding the game up from the start.

@11093752

Күн бұрын

​@@SpaceGuyOnline you can't change the camera position without starting the game over? Bro...

@SleepLIVEYT

Күн бұрын

​@@SpaceGuyOnline camera is such an easy thing to fix lmao

@gaben9224

23 сағат бұрын

It would take 5 minutes in Hammer to adjust the camera lmao

@terminl1327

20 сағат бұрын

Not even 5 minutes. It would take a console command

2:09 The famous Portal sequel: Team Fortress 2

The game is fun and has a LOT of potential, I just think a lot of hate for the game comes from recency bias regarding TF2. Also from people who have some weird vendetta against MOBAs for some reason

@southernninja7786

2 күн бұрын

*I don't understand why people hate overly sweaty and competitive games, this overly sweaty competitive game is actually good guys*

@frank8273

2 күн бұрын

I think the hate is because they try to release a new live service game when both tf2 and cs2 have been not infested and abandoned so all that potential this game might have is irrelevant if it just gets abandoned and bot infested in a few years like their 2 previous games so why trust Valve that history won't repeat itself

@smolbrendan5978

2 күн бұрын

league of legends has actively made my friends worse to be around when they're playing it

@johnnyAFIRE

2 күн бұрын

@@southernninja7786 I’m sure every player you come across in a multiplayer lobby is sweaty bro. Not every game is sweaty, trust me. You’re just not good at the game and that’s ok, but it’s like people like you seethe when a MOBA is even MENTIONED

@Lys22179

2 күн бұрын

@@johnnyAFIRE Personally, Moba's aren't fun. I like competitive games however I don't like having to depend on teammates.

I will talk very generally about the game as to not reveal much since its all still under some form of NDA/bannable offense, but I can only say to wait for the game to come out to try it. The UI needs real work, but the core concept is definitely not much of a hero shooter type game that most people assume it to be, but more akin to an (imo) more fun Smite, with aiming and less emphasis on roles and more on general movement and positioning. It's honestly fun enough to warrant a try whenever it comes out, at least. I just hope they stick the landing, because as it is, it's certainly not ready yet.

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

Nothing makes me want to get a game less then comparing it to Smite. That's my personal opinion I don't like smite.

@MetalandMGS

2 күн бұрын

@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 I mean, fair? If it doesn't sound up your alley, that's fine. but it's the most apt comparison I personally could come up with. I don't think it's 100% like smite, but it's just the fact that Deadlock is 80% a MOBA with 20% hero shooter aspects, like third person and aiming/shooting. Smite comes closest to that. I still say give it a whirl when it comes out, but im not a valve dev or shill, if the game sucks then it just sucks LOL

Going 2 for 2 on DOA new IPs in redundant oversaturated genres, while being touted as one of the industry’s greatest innovators, is a really embarrassing look. If Artifact didn’t humble valve, this might just do it. Chasing trends, as a company that is known for defining them, is bound to make people rethink your legendary status as a studio.

@PowerfulSkeleton

2 күн бұрын

Artifact wasn't a new IP, but I get where you're coming from.

White man was here How do you know VIDEO ESSAY

tf2 fan hating on everything valve does because 18 year old game gets no updates

@d0ct0rz3d4

Күн бұрын

You're a tf2 fan too?

Deadlock is fun, its satisfying and is a better hero shooter than anything else out right now even in its early state. And the moba elements are done very well while still being casual friendly. I think 99% of the hate (hate != criticism) are from people that have never played it and just want to see the game fail for petty reasons.

@d0ct0rz3d4

Күн бұрын

People can have opinions on games even if they haven't played them. It's not gonna replace tf2 like you guys are hoping for.

@crazymcjesus

Күн бұрын

@@d0ct0rz3d4 it isnt trying to replace tf2, very different type of game. If you criticize a game at least be accurate

@crazymcjesus

Күн бұрын

I would love to hear possible solutions from these criticisms, it would be a lot more of a productive conversation

@awsomebot1

Күн бұрын

@@d0ct0rz3d4 The irony is palpable. "You don't have to play it to have an opinion of it" is immediately followed by "It won't replace TF2 btw". Of course it won't, no one who's played the game would say so. It's so very different than TF2.

@whointhewho

21 сағат бұрын

​@d0ct0rz3d4 it surprisingly will it will be funny to see peoples opinions change when they play the game, also some of tf2s voice actors are in there too so keep coping

The fact that the only reason I know I'm looking at deadlock and not overwatch is the third person viewpoint is not a good sign

@gaben9224

23 сағат бұрын

So you haven't seen gameplay of Deadlock or Overwatch at all

@Adder6112

22 сағат бұрын

@@gaben9224 hr literally showed both in the video, they just look insanely similar

Just so you know dota is doing pretty good! Lotta big updates the past year

4:01 actually as of right now TF2's bot crisis seems to be fixed.

From gameplay in the video, you clearly have very little understanding of how the game works in decent lobbies (not like people in those figured the game out either though), its like hearing a guy with 100h in dota complaining about balance, nevermind that the game is in heavy balancing and development, significantly changing weekly. Like, there are plenty of general balancing issues outside of hero skills and numbers, that would be hard to fix, but its none of what you are describing.

Some notes about things omitted or wrong about the opening (0:00-5:25) -Many of the things mentioned about HL2 were certainly NOT innovated by HL2 even if you present it as such. Bump map texturing? Lmfao come on. You mention HDR which wasn't even added until 2010. -Steam was much more controversial back then. It still has its detractors due to its implications for game preservation -CSGO certainly doesn't change the "slow paced tactics" of CSS/1.6. It's literally the same game in its core, except those who were really into CSS say CSGO feels worse which is the opposite of what you definitively claim. Go figure. -Description of Dota 2 is very generic. You could've mentioned how it's still the most complex MOBA, or how it consistently broke records for esports prizepools, or how it literally invented the Battle Pass. Or you could've just omitted the game like you did at 3:34. -CS2's cheaters and content draught certainly does not compare to TF2. -Dota 2 is in an excellent state but you just assume it's doing bad. It just recently had a huge gameplay update. -Underlords is not inspired by TFT. Both games were developed in tandem and were inspired by the Dota 2 mod Auto Chess. -No you don't need $900 to play Alyx. No it's not a tech demo. You admit you haven't played it in another comment. It's literally THE virtual reality game even years after its release. It's certainly a huge leap in innovation just like old Valve, but that would go against the narrative.

@rrai1999

Күн бұрын

On your point about implications for 'game preservation', discs experience disc rot after a decade or two and the data is lost and irrecoverable even if stored in ideal conditions. Your digital copy is far more likely to survive your life time.

@lada-uw3fg

Күн бұрын

he is not responding to this one chief

@awsomebot1

Күн бұрын

@@rrai1999 It's more complex than that. Namely (i) If you buy digital, your game lasts as long as Steam does. They don't have a definite end-of-life plan. If they go kaput, you might just lose all of your games. And (ii) Old games that only work on older OSes are basically dead on Steam as Steam only supports W10 and above. A lot of these games have steam DRM (which Steam isn't allowed to remove afaik) so you can't just transfer your files to an older PC. So while it's nice for Steam to host a gajillion games on their servers, it's a double edged sword for game preservation.

@notthesharpesttool555

21 сағат бұрын

I'd say cs2 and tf2's content drought is comparable, cs2 haven't had a new weapon for the same time (2017-) as tf2, sure cs2 doesn't really need new weapons but would be nice to freshen the experience (I'm no game designer though, first would get the cheaters out of the way, it would be a net positive for everyone). I agree, the video could and should have been better researched (explaining more about dota2 to the ones that doesn't know).

@jiaan100

20 сағат бұрын

​@@rrai1999 steam does not actually sell a digital copy of a game the way GOG does. It's a DRM platform.

What irks me, aside from the bot problem and ignoring the burning building, it’s another “competitive 6v6 shooter,” and apparently a moba? It just sounds like battleborn, with all the problems but worse

@KudoRedfox

2 күн бұрын

There's already like 3-4 other 5v5/6v6 hero shooters coming out this year alone so it's in a incredibly saturated area already

Sounds like you're just mad the unfinished game is unfinished. Or that they aren't updating ancient dead games. And, FYI Dota 2 is doing better than it has in years thanks to the Crownfall event and massive 7.36 update

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

You should genuinely be more concerned if Valve has a repeating trend of dropping their games while continuing to rake in the profits off it. The game isn't officially out yet and there's already several cheat clients and plans for microtransactions. History has a way of repeating itself.

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

​​@@SpaceGuyOnlinepeople are just trying to find ways to ignore your issues or say they are invalid when first impressions are fucking huge for games these days. "They can always fix it later" or they just won't and it'll stay the same game.

@aj_2765

2 күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline So you want them to have even less incentive to support TF2? As for your other points: The game leaked in what was supposed to be a friends and family test stage where I Imagine anti cheat is low on the priority list. And it's ridiculous to twist a dev note saying 'we might give the player cosmetics here' into something sinister.

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

@@aj_2765 If several of your games are suffering from cheats, and the game you don't even have out has cheats. It would be a smart idea to prioritize a proper cheat engine You are also extremely naive if you believe that Valve will not add microtransactions to this game in some form. There's already talks of skins which is more or less confirmed at this point of time. There's talk of there being a currency system as well although the validity of that is unknown to me, why it doesn't show up in the video. There's several characters who aren't 100% finished yet and are only accessible via cheats and commands and I hope Valve doesn't place them behind a paywall

@aj_2765

2 күн бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline all multiplayer games have issues with cheaters to some degree or another and as I said, they were likely caught off guard by how fast alpha access got out of hand. And again, why do you seem offended that a modern multiplayer game has plans to add cosmetics. Deadlock will most likely be f2p and they have to monetise it somehow.

Over the shoulder shooters are always going to have camera issues... just saying.

so its super monday night combat 2?

I love half life but I think you're forgetting that there's other shooters that came out before half-life that were very, very influential, and even heavily inspired half-life, like System Shock and Quake..

I think I’ll wait for it to come out first

Dude I've been watching leaked gameplay from a couple channels on KZread ... Game looks fun imo. Then again I also shill CS2 and people seem to hate that game for a bunch of reasons.

this is a flawed opinion

I agree with most of your criticisms and complaints. But I do feel that there is a reason why it was in an invite-only closed "alpha" (if we can even call it that). Many of the assets and even some heroes (Gray Talon, Bebop, and Yamato) are ripped straight from the game's previous iteration. Ice Frog and Valve clearly are not confident in the state of the game and don't think it's ready for the public. And seeing the reaction from most people, I'm inclined to agree. I've been following the leaks since day 1, and I joined the unofficcial discord when it was created. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Valve didn't expect it to get this crowded. I also agree that this mishmash will only appeal to people who enjoy Overwatch and play some mobas. Everyone else will hate some core aspects of the game. A lot of things can and will change before the game's official announcement, and it may end up feeling completely different than it does now. Let's hope Valve has learned their lesson with cheaters.

Damn, this is making me miss _Paragon._ That game never made it out of beta, but it did a fantastic job of blending FPS and MOBA elements. Unfortunately it attracted a large MOBA playerbase, and in response to community feedback over the course of updates it started to drift into being more of a generic MOBA. Realizing this, the devs did a big update, wrangling it back towards the innovative crossover FPS/MOBA roots that made it distinct, which the MOBA fanboys hated. After a bit of strife with the community, they shut down the beta permanently, sold the IP to some company in China, released the assets for free in Unreal, and moved the dev team over to a new project of theirs called _Fortnite: Battle Royale,_ a free-to-play spinoff of another unfinished game they were working on, _Fortnite,_ a co-op PvE base-building game. There was strong speculation that they gave up on Paragon so readily because they wanted to devote more manpower to _Fortnite BR,_ which was starting to pop off at the time. Props to Epic, they did offer full refunds for any money spent by players during the beta. They didn't have to, the money was gone, fully within terms and conditions, but they just wanted to be cool I guess. I'll always hate them for giving up on _Paragon,_ but I will always respect the manner in which they went about it.

7:24 Now I'll defennd overwatch when people critizize it for being hard to understand what going on visually. 99% of the time it's just an ult chain and you use more audio clues then visual for those. WTF IS GOING ON HERE. Ok his being stunned, then pulled then healed? 3 guys show up on top for seemingly no fucken reasonan and there are 40 gernades. beams and a think a ice wall or railing. This is a visual mess including all the Ui stuff you have to look at.

@SpaceGuyOnline

2 күн бұрын

In that clip I am technically stunned/trapped for 6 seconds, I get out for I think 2, and then get trapped again for another 9.

@dotrarXD

2 күн бұрын

1. Kelvin (ice guy) uses his ice beam 2. Ivy (player) uses her vine bomb 3. Yamato (samurai) grapples towards Seven 4. Kelvin uses his ice grenade 5. Seven (round head guy) uses his stun on Yamato (the yellow circle) 6. Ivy uses her statue stun on Yamato 7. Kelvin uses his ice dome ult 8. Yamato charges up and uses her ult (her going red) 9. Yamato uses her ranged slash ability 10. Ivy flies away using her ult 11. Ivy gets caught in Dynamo's black hole ult 12. Ivy gets stunned by Wraith's (off screen) ult (purple eye) 13. Ivy survives and dashes away 14. Ivy uses her vine bomb again 15. Kelvin uses his ice path

@Greyinkling276

Күн бұрын

​@@dotrarXD they should have played pocket. First mistake.

I'm so tired of people hating on Half Life Alyx and calling it a tech demo or a failed experiment. GO PLAY IT. It's really, REALLY good. And no, it's not a $900 buy in, a cheap VR headset like the Quest 2 will do and you can run it with a 5 year old graphics card. Judging a VR game by watching someone play it is like judging a flat screen game by just listening to someone play it.

@thesensur6214

Күн бұрын

@@mine_stone2495 Ikr, it's so obnoxious.

This video is going to age very poorly once an open beta is released and people realize how you're just horrible at the game and all of your criticisms are totally made up

@whointhewho

4 сағат бұрын

Yea it'll be pretty hilarious

@AmelpsXett

19 минут бұрын

the carcass of this video is already rotting. Its like a poorly made house with vertically stacked bricks

see the state of every Valve live services game right now you gotta have to ask your self do I really want to play their new live service game?

Double thumbs down, keep your facts straight

Idk man, I’m a fan of Gigantic, so I’m interested in Deadlock

@greenoftreeblackofblue6625

2 күн бұрын

Yeah but then why not just play Gigantic? You have the game you want already.

@aj_2765

2 күн бұрын

@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 because it's a paid game with no active dev support.

@iranoutofnames6444

2 күн бұрын

@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 You can play more than 1 game, plus if you like one game and there's another similar to it then it's a win win

@whiteroach3

Күн бұрын

@@aj_2765 And Deadlock isn't immediately going to fall to the same issue? This is Valve we're talking about.

"With only one game like it, it's sequel" is such a raw and perfect line to describe portal 2

Calling half life alyx a tech demo is crazy

game looks fun

bruh the game hasnt even came out yet

@LedZedd

2 күн бұрын

-Therefore you can't criticize the game we've already had hundreds of hours to try out. Please never cook again 👍

@nukamz6583

2 күн бұрын

@@LedZedd what

@LedZedd

2 күн бұрын

@nukamz6583 You do realize most of the people commenting have literally played the game right? Closed Beta has rampant cheaters, busted mechanics, and is visual vomit. It's literally just Valve Overwatch, and all that implies.

@stormer7502

2 күн бұрын

@@LedZedd i have around 100 hours and have not encountered a single noticeable cheater, the mechanics are standard moba stuff if thats what you mean, and the visuals are only as confusing as you are unfamiliar with what they correspond to.

@nukamz6583

2 күн бұрын

@@stormer7502 yo vro give me access

I'm seeing a lot of Battleborn but does anyone remember Paragon? My god that was such an amazing way to combine both genres while also keeping it fun and engaging. Epic really abandoned it to focus on fortnite shortly after it's release and dropped support for the game.

I will come back to this video after deadlock release.

02:18 except pyro Noone knows wtf is his role except giving people headaches