FYI: The bill to change the flag was sponsored by a Republican and signed into law by a Republican governor. But not without concessions to the people opposed to changing the flag. The current seal on blue flag will now have to be displayed above the new flag if they are on the same flagpole, and both flags will fly over the state capitol.

@tysonplett3328

Жыл бұрын

That's still a win for team new flag imo. The new one will represent the state in people's minds because it is actually memorable.

@The_Midnight_Bear

Жыл бұрын

Which defeats the purpose of having A flag

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

As a Republican myself, I don't see what was offensive about the old flag or woke about the new one. That said, I generally don't think most state flags need to be redesigned (besides the redesign that Mississippi recently did, and possibly Georgia). Sure, they may all look the same and be hated by vexillologists, but in a majority of cases I feel like it's trying to fix something that isn't broken.

@BrianSpurrier

Жыл бұрын

@@hotwax9376 i think it’s more just wanting a flag people will actually use. Look in Colorado or California and you’ll see people liking their flag and using it everywhere. I’m from Pennsylvania and I think the only place I’ve seen our flag is at city hall. If a flag is boring it’s just not used

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

@@BrianSpurrier That's what I think it is too. I hate wokeness as much as anyone, but this isn't an example of it.

Imagine thinking that replacing the most run of the mill flag with a unique design is somehow a far left conspiracy...

@ClementinesmWTF

Жыл бұрын

Having taste is a leftist giveaway. Something something “the gays” something something

@diegomountin585

Жыл бұрын

For real, holy moly

@westrim

Жыл бұрын

And not only that, but one that's basically screaming "AMERICAN PATRIOTISM!!!" with that red white and blue field.

@bloxmaster2623

Жыл бұрын

@@westrim yeah but the old one has a cool eagle on it

@farhanatashiga3721

Жыл бұрын

​@@bloxmaster2623 what's the point of that if it's not visible when it's waving in the wind most of the time

As a native Utahn, I really like how the voting system was for the new design, instead of voting for a singular option they actually had us rate them, say why we did or did not like it, and went with the more popular choice. I have since bought it and fly it with pride.

@erinmac4750

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for hanging in there offsetting the loons, who seem to get way too much press. I'm not sure if Andy Warhol had this in mind when he was talking about "15 minutes of fame." 🤔 Folks need to remember for now, the internet's forever. This is how they want to be remembered.......

@cameronwilsey9334

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a sensible voting system. If only it was used for other elections

@taylorbarnhart9882

Жыл бұрын

love ranked choice voting. works for everything.

@genghiskhan7006

7 ай бұрын

I’d buy one if they had a Utah raptor on it

CGP grey would be heartbroken if it was swapped. I think it’s his favorite flag in his recent video.

@sarahferguson0

Жыл бұрын

😂 now i need to know his take 😂

@Piggus_Porkus

11 ай бұрын

What about Colorado without the seal?

There’s a term for this: “Citizens Against Virtually Everything”. Or, CAVE people

@shotguncreeper

Жыл бұрын

My term for that is “Republican” or “GOP”

@gabriellegeorge2648

Жыл бұрын

hahaha

@therealspeedwagon1451

Жыл бұрын

You mean every single American ever?

@ianhomerpura8937

Жыл бұрын

@@shotguncreeper a lot of Republicans actually support having the new flag.

@sydssolanumsamsys

Жыл бұрын

​@The real Speedwagon no, most of us support movong forward in all departments. it is progress for the progressive

It’s amazing how literally everything in America has to be turned into a stupid partisan battle

@VieleGuteFahrer

Жыл бұрын

Controversial topics sell better. Nobody cares about the many bipartisan bills that are going through legislature. There are very few exceptions.

@Leg1503

Жыл бұрын

It’s American media. Always chomping at the bit for a story. They want rage clicks from angry republicans on their Facebook posts. They want outrage because that sells more. It’s disgusting. The media are the first people to throw away human decency and cause a big scene out of something as simple as making a flag less boring

@mileslong7103

Жыл бұрын

and its nearly always republicans making it so

@urubissoldat5452

Жыл бұрын

​@@mileslong7103 ofc, because Democrats never turn things into cultural battles...

@Ht9ehtoom

Жыл бұрын

​@@mileslong7103 objectively both sides do it way more than they should.

Utah, you deserve that upgrade. Let yourself have nice things

@Flint_Inferno

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Im from Utah and I love the new flag.

@jofujino

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, it felt a bit like a sideshow distracting the masses from the worsening water crisis. Here new flag, pay no attention as we do the bare minimum to address entire regions of the state heading towards a cliff called water shortages.

@kenneth6712

Жыл бұрын

@@jofujino Utah has been doing a lot actually, even before over a dozen water storage tanks were built and government incentives to save water were created.

@Dylan-yy3rw

Жыл бұрын

​@@jofujinothankfully the water crisis has been stalled due to the amount of rain we got. Still a big issue, but it's slightly less now. The biggest issue with our water crisis is that the reason it exists is other states also have water crisis, so none can agree who gets the little water they each have.

@ghostnoodle9721

Жыл бұрын

The mormons run the state, and they dont know what the fuck theyre doing

I live in Utah and nothing passes here without Republican support. Zero. Republicans here have no one to blame but themselves.

@surtursaga6789

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t the state rank incredibly well though?

@alexanderhamilton2219

11 ай бұрын

@@surtursaga6789. Yes. Utah has one of the highest levels of quality of life of any US state. Utah is also one of the most politically Republican-leaning states in the country, by far. Similar to North Dakota. What’s your point?

@surtursaga6789

11 ай бұрын

@@alexanderhamilton2219Honestly not sure why I commented that, it’s been a while. I think my point was that Utah republicans didn’t need to blame themselves because the state is generally governed well. Abit unrelated though

@Ilikehelmets

11 ай бұрын

​@@alexanderhamilton2219that seems like an oxymoron

@alexanderhamilton2219

11 ай бұрын

@@Ilikehelmets . How? Why?

Petition to advocate for a newer flag that’s in the shape of Utah

@hallamhal

Жыл бұрын

Yeah why should Colorado and Wyoming be the only states with state shapes flags?

@suprizeoptomist4680

Жыл бұрын

Yes. The country needs a flag shaped ✊️ safety fist.

@stargazer-elite

Жыл бұрын

Because it wouldn’t fly well I really hope this comment is a joke or sarcastic lol

@vl5008

Жыл бұрын

Where do i sign???? 👀

@insertsomethingfuni2617

Жыл бұрын

​@@stargazer-eliteyou haven't been on the internet long have you

I think a flag objectively sucking is a pretty bipartisan thing. But hey, that’s just me.

@luisfilipe2023

Жыл бұрын

Not in America. If one party does literally anything even the least controversial thing imaginable the other party will find some way to hate on it

@blinktropolis

Жыл бұрын

in america a significant amount of conservatives see any flag change as "one more step towards a liberal social communist (insert more buzzwords) society"

@SirWeirdGuy

Жыл бұрын

Republicans will literally find a way to oppose anything that might benefit society. Even something as tiny as a flag being replaced with a better one lmao

@justanotheranimeprofilepic

Жыл бұрын

Nope, everything must be a culture war. To be honest I don't like the new flag

@wumwumdotcum

Жыл бұрын

@@justanotheranimeprofilepic gotta admit that it’s a lot better than the state seal on a navy blue background. that should be outlawed across the country.

I quite like that flag, very simple, but still has meaning

@ImpeachObamaASAP2010

Жыл бұрын

it's a beehive.

@nightigal

Жыл бұрын

​@@ImpeachObamaASAP2010 at least it's not another state seal on a blue background.

@travcollier

Жыл бұрын

​@@ImpeachObamaASAP2010 Yes, it is a beehive. It is a very common/popular symbol for Mormons... Bees work diligently and selflessly for their community. A hive itself is a super-organism. Now I think about it, I'm surprised beehives aren't a communist symbol.

@nugzarmikeladze

Жыл бұрын

@@travcollier beehive has a Queen. Communists don't like Monarchy

@neonxnational

Жыл бұрын

​@@nightigal Flags that look like a police station banner 💀💀

Nothing like the “im against whatever you are for” brand of politics the US has

Did those people ever think that the reason Utah's flag is being changed is because the old one is just boring?

@johndotto2773

Жыл бұрын

They're just to pander for votes. Anti-wokeness is scarily popular. That's all.

@nanni-buyerofcopper

Жыл бұрын

I mean, that would require them to think

@mrcocoloco7200

Жыл бұрын

​@@nanni-buyerofcopper lol 😆

@donovanlocust1106

Жыл бұрын

What? No!/s

@blinktropolis

Жыл бұрын

you'd think it would be obvious

Update. The petition failed; gaining only a third of the number of signatures needed.

@bigsqueak4086

Жыл бұрын

Wah-wah!

@randomyankee8923

Жыл бұрын

Let's go

@dew62169

Жыл бұрын

w turnout w pfp

@Foolof_aTook

Жыл бұрын

Good, that new design looks dumb

@b__c7538

Жыл бұрын

@@Foolof_aTook The petition to hold a referendum to repeal the flag change failed. The new flag will be the state flag

as a conservative: what the actual hell

@GremlinsAndGnomes

Жыл бұрын

I'd believe it. My home state has a run-of-the-mill seal design. Vexillologists pushing for a new flag is a pretty niche field, and I do see a loud minority who start with the assumption that the current flag is too reflective of our state's Western heritage.

@gibbsm

Жыл бұрын

you guys have been doing dumb stuff like this for close to a century by now, wake up.

@levisaidmyname

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah 🤣 this is where American conservatism started going too far.. nothing before this at all 🤭

@TonedVirus3

Жыл бұрын

sometimes i forget that i don't like either side, but shit like this reminds me why i don't blindly follow the right anymore.

@Jake-li7ih

Жыл бұрын

I mean the previous flag was way better honestly

Imagine being so deep in the trenches of the culture War that you fight over a price of fabric

@tylerbozinovski427

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if that "piece of fabric" happened to have a red star on it. People would have every right to be outraged by that. And besides, why are the Reds in China so obsessed with banning "pieces of fabric" themselves?

@noracola5285

Жыл бұрын

Karl Marx has entered the chat (I know it's a typo but I had to make that Kapital vol. 2 reference)

Some hills are worth dying on Some hills are actually valleys that you’ve convinced yourself are actually hills

@TCt83067695

Жыл бұрын

I wanna know the origin of the phrase actually

@Weaponized_Poutine

Жыл бұрын

1) Love the PFP Go Habs Go 2) there is a sunk cost fallacy that drive makes both mole hills to mountains and divots to depressions, a call to center and ending this BS "culture war" and "leveling" tensions would be nice

@flatsamiscool

Жыл бұрын

Actually?

@LordBaldur

Жыл бұрын

@@TCt83067695 Hills are a strategic point for armies, so if the hill you are on has no strategic value, then why die on it?

@daves456

Жыл бұрын

The new flag has hills and valley too

As a Utah citizen, I am quite saddened by the movements against the new flag. The old flag needed the update. I am quite sad that even the simplest of things are politicized and made into divisive points.

@theonewhowatches869

Жыл бұрын

Same here, the old flag is totally indistinguishable from half the nation, commits several cardinal sins of flag design, and the new one keeps the only thing I could actually remember about the old one in the first place. So to see people making a big campaign about the new flag being 'woke' when it was just giving us an actually good flag that people outside the state can recognize, just really annoys me

@zechc

Жыл бұрын

Utah really needs a new flag

@Chesemiser

Жыл бұрын

I personally liked the old flag (didn't like how hard it was to spot in a sea of flags) and am not a huge fan of the new one I liked the seal kind of look that we have had on all of our flags till now, but saying its a leftist change is weird and I disagree with that sentiment

@81dnomyar

Жыл бұрын

@@Chesemiser see this is a take I don't mind. If you liked the idea of the seals as flags, then I can see why you would definitely like the old flag, as it was a more distinctive seal anyways. The idea that changing the flag is a leftist plot is just crazy talk. One of my friends was involved in getting the ball rolling and he's just some regular dude. A cool, nice dude, but a regular dude nonetheless.

this just proves that no matter how good the change is, some politicians are going to find a way to go against it

As a New Mexican, I'm still waiting for the day all the 4 Corners states become the beacon of hope for outstanding flag designs.

@laika6661

10 ай бұрын

I'm not even American but I have to admit, New Mexico has the best state flag and its not even a competition.

Instructions unclear, beehives now installed outside every government building in Salt Lake City

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

Instructions unclear, all Utah state employees are now mandated to have beehive hairdos.

@thevoiceovercloset945

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha, the beehive has been a symbol of Utah since Mormon pioneers settled the area. Actually a very LDS symbol.

@edwardcamp3376

Жыл бұрын

Nick Cage, just trying to have a Utah vacation: NOT THE BEES!!!

@triangulum8869

Жыл бұрын

This whole ordeal is a psyop by bees to gain control of Utah

@ZollyOverloaded

Жыл бұрын

Everyone says it’s a Mormon symbol when actually Mormons try not to have any symbols, because any symbol can be made bad. It really symbolizes hard work not really a religious symbol Reason why the Lds don’t use symbols one example. Ex: Germany using the “peace” symbol into a hate/ kill all Jews symbol

If you interpret the innocuous, new flag design as an attack on your lifestyle, you don’t get to call anyone else a snowflake.

@MattMcIrvin

Жыл бұрын

The "anti-woke" crusade is *nearly* 100% projection; the people doing it accuse their opponents of being touchy and pointlessly offended by things, but they're the most gratuitously offended people in the world and seem to be perpetually in search of something to be outraged at.

@Trorbius

Жыл бұрын

Those damn woke flags are ruining our country

@KaityKat117

Жыл бұрын

right? lmao

@darkhobo

Жыл бұрын

Literally the same basic design. Highlighting Mormanism.

@stev6963

Жыл бұрын

Dude, amen.

I'm a pretty staunch conservative and I'm so glad we're getting a new flag. I also really love flags but I've always disliked state flags because most of them look the same and are boring. Nobody is "cancelling" the old flag because of some weird "woke" reason or trying to undo some "bigoted" history. It just has always been a fundamentally bad flag.

@foolishgamer99

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great way to look at it. Proof that smart people exist on both sides.

As someone from Utah I like the new flag. I’m also religious and it’s not a woke flag. People are just stupid.😑

There’s so many state flags with the state seal on a blue background. This new flag is awesome and symbolic of hard-work.

@kingpredator117

Жыл бұрын

Nov it looks just a little less trash than the old one

@mariotheundying

Жыл бұрын

​@@kingpredator117 nah it's way better and original, if you're gonna debate this then tell me a flag similar to this one, cuz this isn't a normal 3 stripe flag, they aren't even stripes

I'm a Utahn. I like the new flag. The complaints seem completely arbitrary. It sounds like they're saying, "Having nice things is 'woke,' and we're against that."

@ariahjames4340

Жыл бұрын

More accurately, "Having NEW things is 'woke,' and we're against that."

@BradyPostma

Жыл бұрын

@@ariahjames4340 No, they object to old things, too. The right to vote, equality under the law, the word "cis" (first used for cisgender people in 1915), gun regulations, the findings of the history profession generally... Maybe you shouldn't get me started.

@Nicoconuts63

Жыл бұрын

its so ugly for one of the prettiest places in the world. i’d have added orange or like an arch or reference to mormonism. when i saw it i thought it was one of those reddit fan made flags

@BradyPostma

Жыл бұрын

@@Nicoconuts63 The beehive is a reference to Mormonism.

@ariahjames4340

Жыл бұрын

@@BradyPostma While old, they're hardly brought up in everyday life until recent years. So yes, it's "new" to _them_ . What about the history profession?

I already don’t get why conservatives are so against reforms regarding basic human rights, but why do they care about this flag? If anything it looks MORE American, not less.

I’m from Utah and I had no idea people were making this into a culture war. I did hear that the referendum failed to get enough signatures in time so I’d say this is the flag we’re getting

I hope more us states follow Utah’s and Mississippi’s example. Most us state flags are so awful it hurts my eyes

@Neymarinet

Жыл бұрын

Gang new mexico cant relate

@soupmuncher.

Жыл бұрын

New York:

@retronymph

Жыл бұрын

Mississippi is a different case. Utah's flag was just lame, Mississippi had the stars and bars. That being said, yes any seal on blue flag (or yellow, New Jersey) absolutely needs to be made into something better.

@Mfhollander2

Жыл бұрын

Why are most state flags awful? Most people love their blue banner flags, its a great American tradition. Only weird internet flag nerds hate US state flags.

@danielmorton1606

Жыл бұрын

What? You don't like a state seal on a blue background and often writing the state name?

Utahn here and I followed the flag process thoroughly. The length it took to make the flag was deliberate and apparently didn’t cost much. It was a mostly volunteer project with lots of public feedback (my choice was not the final flag but the chosen one was one of my liked flags). Also, Utah has a very outspoken group that “loves” the old flag (though I doubt any of them own/could identify it without pulling out binoculars). This group is ridiculous and I don’t know anyone who seriously wants the old flag to stay. They are a small minority and I can’t wrap my head around keeping the stupid default flag Utah had. There were some interesting shenanigans with the star but apparently the native tribes it represented had a different approach that was reflected in the final flag. The whole “woke” thing is stupid. The flag wasn’t viewed as “problematic” except by anyone who despises anything loosely attached to LDS history (shocker, the 19th and 20th century Utah is defined by the LDS church). People complaining about erasing history probably couldn’t identify the history that was on the seal. There were some weird “pagan” rumors going around that were also dumb. The woke argument was a straw man argument at best and was probably done to drag the fight into a national light. Which didn’t work out. The flag failed a vote because there was some argument about the Star design, they made a quick amendment and it passed. It then had to go back to the house to get voted on again.

@lukeporras1288

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clarification 👍 As an Arizonan, welcome to the good flags club… I guess it could also be called the Four Corners Club

@OspreyKnight

Жыл бұрын

@@lukeporras1288 I like that

@agaardadaar5650

Жыл бұрын

Well put, bridgeman!

Some people really do be "I'm against the current thing"

@yoavmor9002

Жыл бұрын

Y'all need some values and a backbone

"NoOoO yOu CaN't ChAnGe ThE fLaG yOu'Re ErAsInG hIsToRy!" haha bees go bzzz

They watched CPG Grey’s video to get the final confirmation

@JediSimpson

Жыл бұрын

And then he copyright strike them.

@charliesarver

Жыл бұрын

@@JediSimpsonFellow VTH fan?

@jacoL8

Жыл бұрын

@@JediSimpson look he has the right to do that… but like yah I always think a strike is too much…

@Atlas-Shrugs

Жыл бұрын

​@@jacoL8 because he has the right doesn't make him right. He can claim the video then on appeal he has to actually file legal paperwork to sue and have a judge decide whether he is actually right. He has the right to start the process, he doesn't have the right to decide whether it's fair use.

@sarahrosen4985

Жыл бұрын

I’m hoping everyone will start trolling Grey with flag videos.

"Socialism is when your flag isn't crap." -Karl Marx. Probably.

@sfinxen1917

Жыл бұрын

As a Marxist, I can confirm our ideology actually builds apon making all flags not crap. All that other stuff are just extras.

@geochonker9052

Жыл бұрын

​@@sfinxen1917 I hope you don't live in america

@sfinxen1917

Жыл бұрын

@@geochonker9052 I don't, I live in Sweden.

@waywardastronaut5128

Жыл бұрын

Ironic given that most marxist/comunist flags are almost as generic as the blue bedsheets.

@careywilliams3619

Жыл бұрын

@@geochonker9052 shut up man

The new design stayed true to Utah roots while being much more aesthetically pleasing, people really get mad over anything nowadays

As a Utah born person I really do approve of this flag, and I’m right-winged. I think it just looks good on the eyes and stands out from most state flags.

Good news. The referendum came far short of getting the required signatures to put the flag on the ballot. It's official. EDIT to add: Utah is a very conservative state. This didn't get started without conservatives supporting it. When people talk about conservatives rising up against the new flag, please realize you are talking about a very specific *kind* of conservative. Literally every single person I've talked to about the new flag (including a few MAGA conservatives) like it. There is a very small, weird minority who do not.

@pocketmarcy6990

Жыл бұрын

Utah is a conservative state surrounded by states that are typically more liberal (except Wyoming)

@dausboot3997

Жыл бұрын

​@@pocketmarcy6990 and Idaho

@davidjr3658

Жыл бұрын

I think the new flag should’ve had better thought put into it, but it is an honest improvement and I respect it (Editing to add that I’m also a MAGA conservative)

@myrhev

Жыл бұрын

Looking at them both the old flag just looks way better. I am not a fan of flat and minimalist designs like the new one. Like I hated when iOS went from realistic to cartoonish.

@WalkerRae0601

Жыл бұрын

who cares (and I voted for Trump in 2020)

They really said “cancel the new flag” didn’t they LMAO

@MsZsc

Жыл бұрын

modern people really do be blind to hypocrisy or irony

As a Coloradian I approve of this new flag (I used it to design a Mesa Verde Union jack)

Nah bro I have a bee tattoo randomly with no context people are going to think I’m from Utah now

The terms “cancel” and “woke” have truly lost all meaning. Complete buzzwords thrown at anything extreme conservatives don’t like

@DetectiveTrupo203

Жыл бұрын

This comment is "woke" and therefore I hereby "cancel" it.

@ryang1202

Жыл бұрын

Can't even say "stay woke!" without getting canceled these days 😔

@justanotheranimeprofilepic

Жыл бұрын

Not even extreme, the former extreme seems to be the mainstream

@acanthafiore

Жыл бұрын

It's literally anything slightly progressive. Republicans and conservatives are the biggest babies.

@CatholicWeeb

Жыл бұрын

Bruh, They both have clear definitions, it's just misused in this case. Everyone knows what is woke when they see it, the flag would be woke if it had say BLM or pride or any left-wing symbolism on it. Since it clearly doesn't it isn't woke. I'm Religious Conservative so I would obviously know what is woke and isn't. This flag change is clearly needed and the flag looks great so it's a good decision. Everyone btw needs to stop saying something has lost all meaning, there's a difference between a loss of meaning and a clearly derogatory use of a word. Incel has a clear meaning, wants sex but can't have it, and a derogatory use like someone who isn't an incel but call them that since they act like a caricature stereotype of an incel.

This is why we should go back to a flag with 48 stars. Because when we made a new flag with 50 we destroyed the history of the old one...

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

I'll be in the cold hard ground before I recognize Texas and Florida as anything other than neurodegenerative conditions.

@EmperorPretzel

Жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 Only if you say it like grandpa Simpson

@DetectiveTrupo203

Жыл бұрын

50 stars is so woke

@martinbruhn5274

Жыл бұрын

Why not go back to the original flag of the american revolution? Or why not go back even further and use the union jack?

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

@@martinbruhn5274 Go back further and just use an unshaven and untanned animal hide on a stick.

The rest of my goddamn party is so stupid, it’s a good looking flag, with good meaning. I guess I’m a RINO. Oh no

As a member of the mapping and flag community on yt I think that’s a very nice flag

> So the old Utah flag is a blue background with the state seal on it >the state seal is a beehive >the beehive is kept in the new Utah flag, except now there's mountains in the back. How are mountains left leaning?

@SundaeSaurus

Жыл бұрын

Because mountains have peaks. Peaks are something that we can never reach because we're too busy canceling a spider for staring at a child showering

@timburton4150

Жыл бұрын

Park city is the liberal bastion of Utah, and its...in the Moun'ains!!! /s

@geochonker9052

Жыл бұрын

​@@SundaeSaurus lol

@TheMapGod275

Жыл бұрын

Most leftist woke shit I’ve ever heard! Adding a mountain to a flag?! Obviously a conspiracy to uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

As a Republican, all things considered, the new Utah flag is MUCH better. A to S on a tier list.

@MannOfMen

Жыл бұрын

CGP Grey, is that you?

@MoonlightXYZ

Жыл бұрын

@@MannOfMen I have a cat named Grey, but I don't know a CGP. xD Edit: NVM I have seen his videos on KZread.

@bcubed72

Жыл бұрын

The beehive theme is both a nod to Utah as the "beehive state," and to LDS ("Mormons") who started the whole "bee admiration" thing. And I don't see the Mormons as terribly "woke."

@raithneachdavisson6156

Жыл бұрын

​@@bcubed72 hahahaha, I love this planet. The fringe group that most Americans hate has a hive for its state flag. Utah is literally the central hive for the Mormons 😂😂 ONLY WORKER BEES LEAVE AND THEY ALL COME BACK TO THE HIVE 😂😂

@ramonz5917

Жыл бұрын

It's also a very unique flag.

Ah yes, nothing leftest love more than dunking on seal on blue field vexological nightmares.

They're both fine. The new one is a bit more American themed combined with the old symbol. So that's good. Although, I do like the old one's detail in the symbol a lot more. Perhaps they should add more detail to the new symbol?

Americans when they have to follow the basic rules of making a flag: 🤬

@GremlinsAndGnomes

Жыл бұрын

Eh let's not get too invested in the sacrosanct nature of flag design guidelines published in 2006.

@AmandaFromWisconsin

Жыл бұрын

Which Americans?

@SamuraiBonesie

Жыл бұрын

@@GremlinsAndGnomesnaw he’s right, bad hill to die on

@SamuraiBonesie

Жыл бұрын

@@AmandaFromWisconsinany state governing board

@GremlinsAndGnomes

Жыл бұрын

@@SamuraiBonesie naw he's wrong.

As an Arkansan I must say: never put words on a flag. Defeats the whole purpose. Looks tacky. Just bad all around.

@pgbrofficialyoutube349

Жыл бұрын

Quite a skewed perception. Brazil has a whole sentence on its flag and it still looks beautiful. If its meaningful and adds to the design then it's perfectly fine.

@mbogucki1

Жыл бұрын

@@pgbrofficialyoutube349 Its not skewed. Its flag design 101.

@Thrarm

Жыл бұрын

@@pgbrofficialyoutube349 brazil is the exception, every rule in everything has one

@kamikaze5528

Жыл бұрын

@@mbogucki1 It is. There are no rules for good flag design. Those "rules" you see around are just made up nonsense some pretentious pricks decided it was the "objective best way" to create a flag. It has no real value.

@kamikaze5528

Жыл бұрын

@@Thrarm Now tell me about the Saudi Arabia flag.

I swear Americans can get offended by even an empty room.

It's not a woke flag. It's a good flag.

This honestly grinds my gears so much. As a Utah resident who is passionate about the new flag I just don't understand why it had to be ruined by the conservatives. We had a good thing going yk :/

@IslamicSultanateofQarsherskiy

Жыл бұрын

As a conservative extremist, I agree ☝🏽🏴

@daraptor5281

Жыл бұрын

Imagine wasting money on replacing a flag

@davidjr3658

Жыл бұрын

You do realize Utah is a conservative state, right?

@bsmythe3214

Жыл бұрын

Ammon is easily bored. Get his pills!

@dillongage

Жыл бұрын

Why is it a beehive? I dont get it.

I think the new flag looks cool I know some people rightfully hate minimalism, but for a flag, it works, you want something the kids can easily draw, and that can be easily resized without becoming a mess of pixels The Ukrainian trident behind you is a good example, simple and to the point

@WillmobilePlus

Жыл бұрын

Making it a big orange square sows that too, doesn't make it good.

@joseaca1010

Жыл бұрын

@@WillmobilePlus it has to be distinctive on top of being minimalist

The Utah GOP literally ruins everything they touch in this state. I still remember when they got rid of safety checks for your car when you went in for emissions. They are so willing to pay 10% tithe to their cult, but not an additional $10 to make sure Karen doesn’t plow through a bunch of kids crossing the road because her brakes have been bad for months.

The state of confusion is still confused.

It would’ve been cool if they had the Utahraptor on it

@weirdlanguageguy

Жыл бұрын

That was one of the proposed designs!

@IsaaacWithThreeA

Жыл бұрын

Because dinosaurs are cool.

@MsZsc

Жыл бұрын

take inspiration from that australia laser kiwi flag

As both a conservative and a Utah enthusiast, I really hope the Republican backlash to the new flag fades - it's such a beautiful design! This seems to me to be the chief flaw of conservativism: we're so concerned about preserving the good things about our society/culture that we overlook the bad or mediocre things that we would do well to modify.

@Cancn12

Жыл бұрын

Conservativism is mainly about keeping the bad things. Every time there's any civil rights protest, conservatives are the first ones to complain, and now they're doing it with queer rights because being anti civil rights isn't well received anymore. Though they still defend on the regular state sponsored violence that disproportionately affects people of color so they're still racist. What good things has conservatives kept?

@Vitorruy1

Жыл бұрын

They are not acting in good faith, this is not about preserving anything, they just wanna attention

@OspreyKnight

Жыл бұрын

Its not a republican thing, its a FAR far end thing. Its like saying an accord is the same as a ford pinto. They're both cars but one will light itself on fire for no apparent reason.

I'm a Texas conservative, die hard trump supporter, and what many on the left may describe as a Nazi for various things having to do with my views on homosexuality (that I pray for them to be saved by Jesus and not to push it on our children) Even being as conservative as I am, I see no reason to oppose this flag change. I think a lot of the conservatives in power just want something to be angry at, both parties do this all the time. Politics is all about putting two groups against each other to get more votes. Progressives are too willing to get rid of the old, and conservatives too unwilling to accept something new.

They're going to vote to change Maine's seal flag back to it's original flag soon

Utah resident here and I lover the new one. The old wasn’t recognizable, or distinct enough sit the new one I feel represents the Utahn people more and that’s what flag should do. The old one didn’t have any woke problems either the complaints people had where that it looked like everyone else’s and that it was ugly both problems the new one fixes. TLDR It’s great.

Republicans and democrats: *want to create a new flag that better represents Utah history and tradition* Republicans: *accuse democrats of wanting to erase history and tradition* Edit: For everyone saying that the new flag is ugly, it's still top ten by process of elimination. For that one guy who said it looks like a beehive, that's because it is a beehive. It is literally called a mormon beehive.

@kingpredator117

Жыл бұрын

The flag looks bad but better than the old one

@otaku3OBSESSION

Жыл бұрын

​@@kingpredator117i think it's symbolism and simplicity is very modern, which would be great, if it wasn't such a regressive place.

@Acer11818

Жыл бұрын

People only want to believe in their ideas when it *directly* benefits them. This is conservative hypocrisy and it makes no sense. Actively pushing against representing culture and tradition? Like, what?

@gustavusadolphus4344

Жыл бұрын

​@Jaxxson Stone nah the new flag kinda sucks, but it's not some "left wing conspiracy"

@Acer11818

Жыл бұрын

@@gustavusadolphus4344 it’s infinitely better than that boring plain blue background and single emblem

Update, the referendum failed.

As a Utah resident myself. I'm okay with the new flag however it's not the one I would have picked among the proposed designs. But I heard Earthbound music when the new flag was unveiled in this video and that makes it alright with me!

This is like people getting angry at someone for wearing a different shirt

Interestingly enough, the flag was initially pushed and somewhat still is supported by republican legislators. (It was introduced by a republican one). Today, most of the retroactive pushback is coming from conservative Mormons who were not paying attention to the change and connect the old flag to the history of Mormon settlers in the area

As a resident of Utah's most conservative county, I see them. They are setting up tables in grocery stores and calling for public meetings in every town in the region. They have not asked me about it, probably because they can tell that I will not give them a polite answer to signing their petition. Such a pointless issue to be up in arms about.

I live in Utah myself. I really like the new flag

This is literally a thesis on modern American Politics.

@SamuraiBonesie

Жыл бұрын

Based

I am conservative, a Utahn, and I absolutely love the new flag. The only people who defend the old boring flag would be the type of guys who would protest tearing down a 2 year old statue of Hitler killing a puppy because to tear it down would "erase history." The new flag does such a good job honoring the history of the state. It doesn't degrade the pioneers who settled the area, actually but celebrates them. It highlights the indians from here, the amazing landscapes, and encourages unity.

@MsZsc

Жыл бұрын

almost all confederate statue defenders and how they were created were descended from the racist groups during reconstruction propagating myths over centuries btw

@Em648

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, people hate it because its new and its change, and cHangE is Scaryyy Aahhhh

@dustinz7131

Жыл бұрын

Maybe don’t use the term Indians when talking about First Nations people because they aren’t Indians and have nothing to do with Indians

@MsZsc

Жыл бұрын

@@dustinz7131 most american indian groups actually prefer it and find the term native american to be more offensive

@l.franciscobattista2559

Жыл бұрын

​@@dustinz7131 thought that First Nation as a term for indigenous people was a Canada thing. Never heard it from someone from the States.

Being a person from UT. I had no idea we were getting a new flag. But then again it's small news and I'm not one to watch the news

i live in utah and they had a thing where they let people make their own flag and submit it, sounds like a good idea right? nope, they only allowed people to submit through a website and only using tools the website provided to make a new flag, the website had maybe a couple tools and 3 or 4 colors to use

Ironically, The guy who said it was woke looked like he would be the actually woke one.

@galiantus1354

Жыл бұрын

I've seen videos and read comments from other clearly "woke" individuals doing the same thing. I wonder if this is just a matter of extremes being easily upset by any issue than any left-right dichotomy.

@Waldzkrieger

Жыл бұрын

I feel like there's a lot bigger overlap between the "I don't vaccinate my kids because my crystals say it's a bad idea" people and "I'm going to storm the Capitol and [redacted] Nancy Pelosi" people than most would assume.

@FebbieG

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps he dressed like that for irony

@TCt83067695

Жыл бұрын

​@@FebbieG most probably

@mfaizsyahmi

Жыл бұрын

He woke up every day but his day counter never progressed past his 4th birthday

The beehive represented on the flag is called a Skep beehive. Skep beehives are illegal in Utah. 😂

@doublelxp

Жыл бұрын

Lifelong Utah resident here and TIL.

We need to do that to Wisconsin

but the new flag looks so much better.. like it would be perfect for a mars colony it’s so clean

CPG Grey does an AMAZING breakdown of all the US state flags complete with rankings and grades as well as some very entertaining commentary. Highly recommend.

@timburton4150

Жыл бұрын

I loved that video! It totally changed my mils mind in the topic.

Minnesota is currently working on a new flag as well. I wonder if perhaps online videos ranking flag designs had something to do with states wanting to update their flag.

@DrBrangar

Жыл бұрын

Doubtful to be online vids specifically, but the spate of mostly southern states redesigning after public pressure to remove hate symbols mounted does call attention to them, and it is an undeniable fact that like 30 states are just the seal on blue, which makes all them worse if you are wanting to be distinctive. Look at Maryland or New Mexico, then look at Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, and Montana. All basically the same, not very unique.

As a conservative. This Utah flag is much better.

as a “conservative” that is probably one of my favorite US flags, it’s just very unique and so cool looking

I love that changing anything for any reason is woke now.

@Vitorruy1

Жыл бұрын

remember when fox made a segment saying the power saving feature on xbox is woke? I wish I was making that up

@schalitz1

Жыл бұрын

​@@Vitorruy1 I honestly don't see why people threw a hissy fit about that. It still downloads updates while its turned off, and that's all I care about.

Idk about the controversy but the new flag looks BEAUTIFUL, there is symbolism for mountains of Utah and the Great Canyon and colors are great too, all and all an outstanding flag 11/10

HERE TO UPDATE THE NEWS the new flag stayed and is now flying all over utah

I'm a Utahn and I love the new flag. The old one is so plain

How could it pass without Republican support? There’s 14 Democrats in the House out of 29 and 6 Democrat senators out of 75 in Utah. 🧐

@OspreyKnight

Жыл бұрын

Because it did have republican support? The people doing the petitions are conspiracy theorists doing mental gymnastics. Case in point, the petitions got 1/3rd of the minimum signatures needed to even have their petition seen. Even people who don't really like the new flag don't care about their bullshit.

I'm from Utah. I actually had no idea that we got a new flag but I'm glad we did. I think our state could have done better though in flag design.

@lukeporras1288

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think the 125th anniversary flag passed in 2021 looks a bit better.

As a Conservative, I approve of Utah’s new flag. Many Western provinces have boring flags. Utah’s new flag looks cool.

@foolishgamer99

Жыл бұрын

It’s refreshing to hear someone use their critical thinking in this way.

@chaosXP3RT

Жыл бұрын

You're not a true conservative then. There are Leftists trying to destroy this country!

Oh my, I'm unaware of this. I'm currently of NV and know very few who have been from or born in at least SLC, and I've only been in a downtown area, I think, for maybe at least 2 days in 2012. I've been new to this channel since about a week or 2 ago because of what's been suggested on my feed mostly relating to foods. I wonder if I'll ask the friend or acquaintances about this too even if they aren't currently living in Utah.

The guy complaining about wokeness dressed and sounded like the most woke guy in the room lmao

@timburton4150

Жыл бұрын

New to Utah I see? Or left wing is what most states see "slightly to the right" guys

@tylerbozinovski427

Жыл бұрын

It's called making a mockery of the woke insanity lmao.

I am legitimately upset that the old one will still have to be flown. The old one is straight up garbage and we in Utah deserve to never have to think about it again.

This is by far the dumbest hill to die on

Is this controversy because of the eagle not being in the flag anymore?

They better keep the new design. It was graded S tier by CGP Grey.

@aluminium5738

Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who just doesn't like it

@aluminium5738

Жыл бұрын

@@armamentarmedarm1699 I do not think that the old one is better in any way, but the new one just isn't the kind of design that I like, plain and simple.

@aluminium5738

Жыл бұрын

@@armamentarmedarm1699 It's starting to grow on me...

The flag thing is crazy but BRO can we please talk about that abso top-tier hair you got going on right now? It’s like your signature movement and energy is radiating out and I’m here for it

@ziebelzubel

Жыл бұрын

J.J.? More like Slay Slay

@b__c7538

Жыл бұрын

Getting Einstein vibes

Who here has watched CGP Grey 😂😂😂 Hexagons are the Bestagons… Hexagons are the Bestagons… Hexagons are the Bestagons… 🙃🙃🙃

As a Conservative, I'd like to distance myself from these goofs 🤡🤡 Utah keep your flag upz it's dope as hell

That flag looks much better and unique, while appearing to maintain the important symbolism. I like it

@lukeporras1288

Жыл бұрын

I honestly prefer the 125th anniversary flag, but this one is still a far superior improvement to the old SOB

@mranima748

Жыл бұрын

Like a flag should

"woke" means something they don't like for no reason at this point

@Darth_Insidious

Жыл бұрын

If a democrat supports it, it's "woke". There can never be any bipartisan agreement.

Hi Jj!! It was nice seeing you in the street a few days ago!!! Thank you for your kindness in taking a picture with me! 😊

Man people like to argue. I can agree on some point that not all new is good but come on most of us Utahns barely knew what the flag looked like anyway. The new one looks great. I’m pretty conservative on most fronts but come on people it’s a symbol.