USS Essex - Bane of Whalers

The subscription-built frigate Essex of the USN has it's time in the spotlight.
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  • @Drachinifel
    @Drachinifel4 жыл бұрын

    Pinned post for Q&A :)

  • @the_relaxing_alley3590

    @the_relaxing_alley3590

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey drach, what are your thoughts on the upcoming Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts video game? It might be something worthwhile to check out. Here's the link to the game's website: www.dreadnoughts.ultimateadmiral.com/

  • @domonkosmestercsiki5292

    @domonkosmestercsiki5292

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do you know about Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnaught?would you check it out and give your opinion on the shipbuilding part of the game?

  • @Strongbeef_Hoofstomp

    @Strongbeef_Hoofstomp

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why do modern warships (starting with cold war and forwards) no longer use armor? Is it completly pointless or just not very cost effective?

  • @nicoderfeuerloscher1684

    @nicoderfeuerloscher1684

    4 жыл бұрын

    Since you made a guide to a floaty log, what about battle logs?

  • @huskythedinosaur1592

    @huskythedinosaur1592

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is the most insane story of damage happening to a vessel and surviving it that you know about?

  • @Kevin_Kennelly
    @Kevin_Kennelly4 жыл бұрын

    Drachism of the Day: 14:24 "Instead, the two sides decided to start trolling each other in a manner that wouldn't be entirely out of place in a 21st-century internet forum. Only they were using somewhat more polite language, better spelling and, of course, the use of flags."

  • @TacgnolSimulacrum

    @TacgnolSimulacrum

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is there a master list of these somewhere?

  • @jimtalbott9535

    @jimtalbott9535

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Better hand writing also, I'd assume.

  • @jamespfp

    @jamespfp

    4 жыл бұрын

    RE: "the use of flags" #Hashtag

  • @AdamMGTF

    @AdamMGTF

    4 жыл бұрын

    Got to be one of the best yet!

  • @Kevin_Kennelly

    @Kevin_Kennelly

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TacgnolSimulacrum I've been appending the weekly DotD into one file. But only for the last two months. That's about a third of them. The first one can be found in the comments of Drydock Episode 039

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment4 жыл бұрын

    Damn, these new Aircraft Carrier designs look retro as hell.

  • @USSAnimeNCC-

    @USSAnimeNCC-

    4 жыл бұрын

    One question where are we going to land the plane

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment

    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@USSAnimeNCC- Those sails are obviously cleverly disguised jets. They land VTOL-style.

  • @USSAnimeNCC-

    @USSAnimeNCC-

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Big_E_Soul_Fragment I see and we get launch out the sides Battlestar Galactica style

  • @sarjim4381

    @sarjim4381

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@USSAnimeNCC- Ah, so it's a Q Ship style carrier then...

  • @bigblue6917

    @bigblue6917

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sarjim4381 The had some well trained pigeons.

  • @Ebolson1019
    @Ebolson10194 жыл бұрын

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate Essex Jr

  • @titincat172

    @titincat172

    Жыл бұрын

    No

  • @aceous99

    @aceous99

    Жыл бұрын

    kawaii

  • @GentlemanBystander

    @GentlemanBystander

    5 ай бұрын

    When I heard it, it put a big smile on my face.

  • @vikkimcdonough6153
    @vikkimcdonough6153 Жыл бұрын

    18:15 - The fact that he was quite effectively tying down several British warships simply by sitting in port and doing nothing apparently not having crossed Porter's mind.

  • @scottmcintosh4397
    @scottmcintosh43974 жыл бұрын

    There was also a whaling ship named Essex. It had the ignominy of being the only ship in history to actually be rammed & sunk by the whale it was hunting. This was the template for the S.S. Pequod in Moby Dick ⛵🐳

  • @sarjim4381
    @sarjim43814 жыл бұрын

    The best kind of naval war is one where the opponents anchor in harbor and then glare at each other. :)

  • @1950Chimaera

    @1950Chimaera

    4 жыл бұрын

    When the French Navy took a brave stand against the Italian attack in WW 2...

  • @Christopher-N

    @Christopher-N

    3 жыл бұрын

    A contest of gentlemenly taunts, with accompanying diss songs of the era.

  • @wuffothewonderdog

    @wuffothewonderdog

    9 ай бұрын

    Were the French involved in WW2?

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius19894 жыл бұрын

    War of 1812, dont you mean American Revolution Part two, Two Ocean Boogaloo ?? Fantastic video as always Drach.

  • @johnshepherd8687

    @johnshepherd8687

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like a prequil to WWI.

  • @KitsuneRogue

    @KitsuneRogue

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnshepherd8687 I've always held the Franco-Prussia and Brother's Wars as the prequels to WWI.

  • @johnshepherd8687

    @johnshepherd8687

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@KitsuneRogue I was being obtuse. US involvement in the First World War was ultimately a "Free Trade and Sailors' Rights" sort of thing. The historic Isolationist position has always been that US can freely trade with who ever it wants despite your "little disagreement." American isolationists don't seem understand that our free trade is their trading with the enemy and always leads to conflict. Contemporary isolationists think they have broken the code and seek to wall off America from the rest of the world. In their historical ignorance they don't know the Jefferson Adminstration pursued this policy and almost destroyed the young country.

  • @davidtuttle7556

    @davidtuttle7556

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnshepherd8687 That's because Trump can talk the talk but can't walk the walk. Hes a pussy at heart. Just like Jefferson was.

  • @absalomdraconis

    @absalomdraconis

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnshepherd8687 : All sides involved understand things quite well. What the warring participants _intentionally disregard_ is that interfering with the trade of uninvolved third parties _is itself already an act of war._ I repeat: the warring parties know _and ignore_ that such interference is itself an act of war. Except, of course, that sometimes they _don't_ ignore it, instead letting it continue. At any rate, if trade with e.g. France is to be stopped for Britain's sake, then _obviously_ the only fair and reasonable thing is to stop the trade with Britain as well, since the point is to not be a participant in the war. What's that? Britain needs the cotton for their sails? Well, I guess that they'll need to end the war sooner then, since even just allowing them to buy it _in_ US ports would be allowing trade. Those "this group is wrong because X" arguments are never right, specifically because they over-simplify the reality in favor of whatever side the argument deems correct. When you try genuinely to find the "correct answer", it almost universally devolves to either "everyone hates the solution, so noone will agree to it", or "we have the most guns, so we'll force you to do it our way". There _are_ no "good", nor "correct", nor other types of "superlative" answers, just answers that you can or cannot achieve.

  • @stevehomeier8368
    @stevehomeier83684 жыл бұрын

    The unhappy prospect of being laid up for a month on disability is made more tolerable by knowing that I can catch up on your entertaining and informative videos

  • @turbowolf302
    @turbowolf3024 жыл бұрын

    Essex and Essex Jr.: Don't sail to me or my son ever again. Or you get the hurt balls.

  • @Grimmwoldds

    @Grimmwoldds

    4 жыл бұрын

    Atlantic: I'm lost. Essex: I always wanted a son.

  • @thegrandnope7143

    @thegrandnope7143

    4 жыл бұрын

    HMS Pheobe: Hippity Hoppity Yer Both Me Properties

  • @shanelodge391

    @shanelodge391

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hurt balls .......lol

  • @jlvfr
    @jlvfr4 жыл бұрын

    RN: U GO USN: NO, U GO Chileans: /grab popcorn, sit to watch

  • @Reilly-Maresca

    @Reilly-Maresca

    4 жыл бұрын

    João Rita literally culminating in a “1v1 me, bro!”

  • @Rammstein0963.

    @Rammstein0963.

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some say...they are still engaged in that immortal debate to this day...

  • @RCAvhstape

    @RCAvhstape

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was like a South Park Bro-down.

  • @jlvfr

    @jlvfr

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RCAvhstape :D

  • @carlousmagus5387

    @carlousmagus5387

    4 жыл бұрын

    Basically

  • @ShillienFeuer
    @ShillienFeuer4 жыл бұрын

    And here I'm, 205 years later hearing such trolling situation in Valparaíso. Very interesting video with my city included.

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz4 жыл бұрын

    USS Essex journey is the inspiration for Master and Commander Far Side of the World. The ship becoming the USS Norfolk in the book and Acheron in the movie, which were bascially the same as the USS Constitution rather than a blueprint of the USS Essex.

  • @hernerweisenberg7052

    @hernerweisenberg7052

    4 жыл бұрын

    i didnt read the book, but i think in the movie they described the Acheron as a "44gun 18pdr frigate" wich would be much closer to the essex then the connie, right? :)

  • @Alex-cw3rz

    @Alex-cw3rz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hernerweisenberg7052 I can't remember in the Book the weight of shot, but it was a 44 gun ship built to the lines of the original 6 frigates (the 44 gun ones), unlike USS Essex. And in the movie the ship is directly modelled off the USS Constitution, I think they made it 18 pounders to make it sound more realistic a fight for the Surprise to win.

  • @hernerweisenberg7052

    @hernerweisenberg7052

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah i guess calling the Constitution a 44 gun ship is like calling the Bismarck a 10000 ton treaty compliant battleship ;D

  • @Alex-cw3rz

    @Alex-cw3rz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hernerweisenberg7052 well yeah, but that was the same with almost all naval ship back then

  • @RCAvhstape

    @RCAvhstape

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hernerweisenberg7052 BTW, when you say "Connie" that's usually a nickname for the Constellation, not the Constitution. The more recent aircraft carrier Constellation was referred to as "Connie" by many sailors and Marines in the 80s and 90s.

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn4 жыл бұрын

    14:26 "My lord, I do believe the colonials are signaling very disparaging remarks upon your family line, particularly your mother's side."

  • @CaptRye
    @CaptRye4 жыл бұрын

    this sounds like the plot of "Master and Commander"

  • @sarjim4381

    @sarjim4381

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was indeed.

  • @jacktattis143

    @jacktattis143

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sarjim4381 What the ending?

  • @509Gman

    @509Gman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure the Essex was the inspiration for the Acheron. Obviously they had to make it French or the American studios would never have been involved.

  • @ricky6608

    @ricky6608

    4 жыл бұрын

    thgreatandini No, the Acheron is based on the Constitution, it even looks almost exactly like it in the movie. The Surprise and the Essex would be evenly matched ships

  • @brianmessemer2973

    @brianmessemer2973

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@ricky6608 Both points are correct. The Acheron's identity as a superior enemy frigate makes it analogous to the Constitution, yet its mission and purpose in the Pacific (to endanger the British whaling fleet) made it analogous to the Essex. Peter Wier and the writers of the film cherry picked plot threads (and indeed much of the dialogue) from many of the Aubrey-Maturin books, made alterations to suit their purposes, and wove them into the screenplay which serves as a smorgasbord or medley of the novels. To be fair to the film makers, it's impossible to properly distill one full novel into a mere 2 hour film, let alone 20.

  • @DeadBaron
    @DeadBaron4 жыл бұрын

    Gotta thank the Barbary Pirates for allowing the foundations of our Navy to be laid down. The Revolution dug the foundation, but the raiders laid the stonework. It's amazing how long we've really been fighting people from that region...

  • @josephdedrick9337

    @josephdedrick9337

    4 жыл бұрын

    if the people dont speak english we fight them, and if they do, we fight them 2 or 3 times.

  • @HJBounell

    @HJBounell

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josephdedrick9337 that explains why chuck martelwas fighting an islamic army. in france. 300 years before the crusades. By all means, continue

  • @josephdedrick9337

    @josephdedrick9337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HJBounell that was a joke dude

  • @thekinginyellow1744

    @thekinginyellow1744

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HJBounell "Chuck Martel" You realize that now you are now on a French watchlist for that.

  • @erict7840
    @erict78404 жыл бұрын

    I was stationed on the latest version of the Essex

  • @christopherconard2831
    @christopherconard28314 жыл бұрын

    Now I have the urge to troll with semaphore. 🎌

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC4 жыл бұрын

    Damn, now I wish the USN would christen another USS Essex Jr. Just imagine a FFG(X) USS Essex Jr paired with a new Ford Class USS Essex.

  • @MidnightMoon2267

    @MidnightMoon2267

    4 жыл бұрын

    TheNinjaDC currently there is a USS Essex (LHD-2) a Wasp-class Landing Helicopter Dock in service so I don’t think there will be a Ford Class Essex anytime soon.

  • @Betrix5060

    @Betrix5060

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MidnightMoon2267 Ford class Essex Sr. to the Wasp class Essex Jr. Problem solved.

  • @ronclark9724

    @ronclark9724

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Betrix5060 America has far too many more names to use than have a second Essex...

  • @Betrix5060

    @Betrix5060

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ronclark9724 Nah man. We need an Essex Jr. IT HAS TO HAPPEN!

  • @ronclark9724

    @ronclark9724

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Betrix5060 I can't think of a reason why... There will only be one USS Essex in commission...

  • @LostShipMate
    @LostShipMate4 жыл бұрын

    I thought you were referring to the Carrier for a couple of seconds. I was very confused, and now sad that it wasn't a giant carrier hunting down whalers.

  • @kyle18934

    @kyle18934

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol an aircraft carrier and escort fleet hunting down petty crime and territorial fishing infringements... could you imagine getting stopped by an aircraft carrier and fighter planes for sailing to close to usa waters lol

  • @tieck4408

    @tieck4408

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought he meant the only ship ever intentionally sunk by a whale.

  • @LostShipMate

    @LostShipMate

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tieck4408 Call me Ismail . . .

  • @ashipnerdoffical4260

    @ashipnerdoffical4260

    3 жыл бұрын

    You know, that sounds like a fantastic dimensions novel or a brainless action thriller.

  • @umbrellashotgunman

    @umbrellashotgunman

    2 жыл бұрын

    “I knew those Japanese were still up to no good!” - The ghost of Essex, probably.

  • @hectorheathcote9495
    @hectorheathcote94954 жыл бұрын

    My Great Uncle, George Dunning served aboard a later version of USS Essex(1876) during the Spanish American War in 1898. I have a photo of him standing on the deck of the ship with "USS Essex" on his navy cap. Great video, Drach. Could you do one on the later 1876 version? Would love to see and hear about her adventures during the war. Thanks!

  • @Nyx_2142

    @Nyx_2142

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm curious, do you just find the flag in your profile pic interesting for some odd reason or are you actually a dipshit 3%er terrorist? Because you would be a terrorist. It's a far-right neo-nazi militia that was classified as a terrorist organization after they participated in the Jan 6th insurrection.

  • @mattf4u-496
    @mattf4u-4964 жыл бұрын

    Well of course a 30K ton aircraft carrier would be the bane- Oh wait wrong Essex.

  • @hisdadjames4876

    @hisdadjames4876

    Жыл бұрын

    Now that’s what I call a ‘classy’ comment😐

  • @simoneriksson8329
    @simoneriksson83294 жыл бұрын

    I would be intrested in a video were you talk about the conflict between the US and the barbarystates in more detail :)

  • @mikebrown3772

    @mikebrown3772

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I was about to make a similar comment when I saw this post. Or a video about the Philadelphia.

  • @LetsTalkAboutPrepping
    @LetsTalkAboutPrepping3 жыл бұрын

    "Congress lost its head and went off course....also, a storm dismantled the frigate and it had to return to port" 😂😂pure gold

  • @1TruNub
    @1TruNub4 жыл бұрын

    DAMN THE TORPEDOS, FULL STEAM AHEAD

  • @demizer1968

    @demizer1968

    4 жыл бұрын

    When he mentioned that all I could think of was "Damn, he was an old fart when he sailed into Mobile."

  • @axelandersson6314
    @axelandersson63144 жыл бұрын

    From now on I would like to be addressed as Axel "The bane of Whalers" Andersson.

  • @bificommander

    @bificommander

    4 жыл бұрын

    Join Greenpeace, go to Japan, board a couple of whalers, then we'll talk. :p

  • @disbeafakename167

    @disbeafakename167

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would like to be "Disbea 'bane of green peace' Fakename" and sail my frigate about the Pacific.

  • @viridisxiv766
    @viridisxiv7664 жыл бұрын

    i love stories from the age of sail, nations seemed to steal as many ships as they built!

  • @disbeafakename167

    @disbeafakename167

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, as they say, the French build the best ships, just ask their British crews.

  • @spookyshadowhawk6776
    @spookyshadowhawk67764 жыл бұрын

    Nothing like a severe trolling to weaken the resolve of your enemy!

  • @redshirt5126

    @redshirt5126

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sociological warfare is best warfare!

  • @john88benson
    @john88benson4 жыл бұрын

    Aesthetically this is one of my favorite yankee frigates. Thanks for the review.

  • @sarjim4381

    @sarjim4381

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree, Essex (1) was a very pleasant looking ship. Hanging banners all over it taunting the RN didn't hurt any.

  • @AlisonFort
    @AlisonFort4 жыл бұрын

    Great guide - demonstrating that reality is even more entertaining than the movies!

  • @zacharyzier314
    @zacharyzier3144 жыл бұрын

    I’m a simple man, I see a Drach upload, I watch and thoroughly enjoy, sleep be damned.

  • @skipper4126
    @skipper41264 жыл бұрын

    Troll Flags.. so that's how civil trolling is done. Neat.

  • @1894db
    @1894db4 жыл бұрын

    Part of this ship's career sounds like it was inspiration for Master and Commander.

  • @dr.pjuskebusk2501

    @dr.pjuskebusk2501

    4 жыл бұрын

    1894db it was

  • @jacktattis143

    @jacktattis143

    4 жыл бұрын

    1894 : For heavens sake the R/N had plenty of Frigates to choose from 10 Whalers is hardly a classic fight for a Frigate

  • @1894db

    @1894db

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacktattis143 I meant the Essex's exploits sounds like the enemy ship's in M & C.

  • @jacktattis143

    @jacktattis143

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@1894db Could be and seeing as it is a USN thing I fail to see why they did not base it on the Constitution She was the USN most successful ship. The best the Essex did was the 18 gun HMS Alert

  • @1894db

    @1894db

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacktattis143 The Essex's exploits suited the story the author wanted to tell.

  • @Thirdbase9
    @Thirdbase94 жыл бұрын

    Decatur has a long "A" as the middle syllable.

  • @jamespfp

    @jamespfp

    4 жыл бұрын

    De-KAY-tur you mean?

  • @Rammstein0963.

    @Rammstein0963.

    4 жыл бұрын

    Indeed it is. And Illinois is usually pronounced by Americans as "ill-in-oy/oyz"

  • @madmandu

    @madmandu

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Rammstein0963. The correct pronunciation is Ill-ih-noy, NEVER ill-ih-noise.

  • @Rammstein0963.

    @Rammstein0963.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@madmandu I know that, sadly I've heard people call it both and even the occasional "Illin-wah"...fml

  • @ShadrachVS1

    @ShadrachVS1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@madmandu not to me, I add a lisping ess on the end of an otherwise proper pronunciation just to mess with people from that state... I also have a habit of pronouncing Kansas as the tribal name.

  • @matthewrobinson4323
    @matthewrobinson43234 жыл бұрын

    1) Excellent video, as always, despite your continued hysterectomies of the ships by referring to them as"it". Grrrrrr. 2) Patrick O'brian had this in one of the books in his Aubrey-Maturin series, Desolation Island. 3) I was unaware that Facebook existed in 1814.

  • @AdamMGTF

    @AdamMGTF

    4 жыл бұрын

    1) not sure that's wrong. After all, not all cultures call a ship "she". Given KZread is a multi-national platform. Perhaps calling an inanimate object "it", is actually correct. ;)

  • @matthewrobinson4323

    @matthewrobinson4323

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AdamMGTF Nope. The videos are made by an Englishman. This video is about American and British ships. They are "she'.

  • @absalomdraconis

    @absalomdraconis

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@matthewrobinson4323 : And made in English to boot. Isn't relevant if some culture genders ships as "fish" or "whale" or "tree"... or "it", this is in the English language, with ships that would be using the English norms, so unless the ship's captain or someone of similar ilk tries to have it refered to differently, the ship is a "she".

  • @AdamMGTF

    @AdamMGTF

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'll just have to agree to disagree. I couldn't care less what Drach' chooses to call them, it's his video

  • @matthewrobinson4323

    @matthewrobinson4323

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AdamMGTF No, not really. Disagreeing and agreeing are purely optional. You CAN also agree to agree just as easily. 🤣

  • @blaircolquhoun7780
    @blaircolquhoun77803 жыл бұрын

    The USS Essex was the inspiration, along with the Constitution's escape from the Guerrierre in July 1812, was the inspiration for Patirck O'Brian's The Far Side of the World.

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy05053 жыл бұрын

    Captain of the Graf Spee should watched your video.

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden241952 жыл бұрын

    "The coastal defenses were mostly decorative." -yeah, tell that to Fort McHenry.

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz4 жыл бұрын

    A great video would be on the Chesapeake vs HMS Shannon, the inovations introduced by the captain of the Shannon is such a fascinating read and really showed to be incredibly effective in the battle.

  • @99IronDuke

    @99IronDuke

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes that would make a very good video,

  • @johndigiovanni622
    @johndigiovanni6223 жыл бұрын

    I thought I was going hear your take on the Moby Dick story, but instead I learned something I didn't know . Thank you for the time and effort you put into your video.

  • @nastybastardatlive
    @nastybastardatlive4 жыл бұрын

    My dad was aboard the CVS 09 USS Essex during the blockade of Cuba in 1962.

  • @Georgieastra
    @Georgieastra4 жыл бұрын

    A terrific series of videos. If you're open to suggestions perhaps you could do a piece on the customs and practice of prize money in the age of sail. Particularly in this case I would really like to know how much the crew of the Essex was expecting to get from ship full of silver they captured. Of course the British crew who recaptured the vessel should also got a heap of money but since the ship had originally seemed to be owned by the bankers/ government I strongly suspect that they were shafted out of their reward.

  • @shannonman2
    @shannonman24 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this, been asking for ages.

  • @petroleumalley
    @petroleumalley3 жыл бұрын

    Whalers? OK, next in your recommended will be "Wellerman" 😎

  • @rvail136
    @rvail1364 жыл бұрын

    Briliant as always, thanks for doing this.

  • @g1stylempdesign929
    @g1stylempdesign9292 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video! Thank you for all the amazing facts and narrative

  • @sanitarycockroach9038
    @sanitarycockroach90384 жыл бұрын

    The OG shotgun build.

  • @charlessaint7926
    @charlessaint79264 жыл бұрын

    "We used trolling with the clever use of flags!"~Eddie Izzard (Probably)

  • @wjsnow2195
    @wjsnow21953 жыл бұрын

    Great video, sadly a much forgotten time period in our naval history so thank you for taking the time to research and produce this.

  • @MililaniJag
    @MililaniJag9 ай бұрын

    Capt. Porter should have refused to sail with only Short-Range Carronade!!Great vid! Cheers

  • @zspud21
    @zspud214 жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant video. I love the history and how it's all framed

  • @nitehawk86
    @nitehawk864 жыл бұрын

    Not to be confused with the USS Essess, from Hot Shots.

  • @MatthewJBrown
    @MatthewJBrown4 жыл бұрын

    I'm really enjoying these age of sail videos!

  • @adamburgess4618
    @adamburgess46183 жыл бұрын

    Essex and Syren are two of my favorite sailing ships of their time. Yet both pretty much wind up in similar situations.

  • @matthmaroo1984
    @matthmaroo19844 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos! They are all super entertaining!

  • @hazchemel
    @hazchemel4 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the show. The sailing ships' careers are interesting, from the perspective of today. Venture a question? Possibly outside show's area......but anyway. What was involved in the braking up of a wooden sailing navy ship? It must have been commercially viable.

  • @Drachinifel

    @Drachinifel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Partially it was to retrieve copper, brass and iron fittings, and also the better condition timbers for reuse.

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube98634 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I was always amused reading stories about 18th century naval warfare. Polite, savage, humorous, or deadly, but always interesting. Different times. The one thing that always has prime place in these stories is the weather, particularly the wind and what quarter it was blowing over. It's really amazing, but wind powered sailing ships really were at the mercy of the wind. And battles were won or lost, and thus wars, because of the weather.

  • @andrewreinbach7145
    @andrewreinbach71452 жыл бұрын

    Excellent and accurate relating of the story.

  • @ottomeyer6928
    @ottomeyer69284 жыл бұрын

    a very beautiful ship

  • @woolybuck6852
    @woolybuck68524 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful wood! Love the lightning strike scared slabs. As a woodworker I'd love to have some of that in my workshop. Cheers....

  • @s.31.l50
    @s.31.l504 жыл бұрын

    There are some really interesting parallels between USS Essex and KMS Admiral Graf Spee.

  • @jamespfp
    @jamespfp4 жыл бұрын

    9:20 -- By way of an aside -- this is one of the topics which most interest me, historically, for the period between the 17th century to the 20th, ie. Prize Rules and Admiralty Law.

  • @jamespfp

    @jamespfp

    4 жыл бұрын

    ^^ Consequently -- Pirate Articles, Letters of Marque, et cetera.

  • @kendramalm8811
    @kendramalm88114 жыл бұрын

    G' morning, Drach!

  • @manuelaigner5126
    @manuelaigner51264 жыл бұрын

    Great video I love the Age of sail content keep doing more pls

  • @lukeclayton-holland1564
    @lukeclayton-holland1564 Жыл бұрын

    I love this guy

  • @rbnhd1976
    @rbnhd19764 жыл бұрын

    Hey just found for channel a few days ago, great work! I think an interesting video showing Victory or another first rate, ship stores and lading, in other words, how many barrels of rum, beef, cannon balls, gunpowder, etc. I saw a bill for a ship once, can't find it again, it had like a crazy amount of stuff on it, thanks!

  • @craigkoehler4363
    @craigkoehler43634 жыл бұрын

    To the shores of Tripoli!

  • @GrouchierBear
    @GrouchierBear4 жыл бұрын

    The stuff I read about the Essex long ago was that the ship had originally been armed with twelve pounder long guns, with the change to carronades being the work of Porter's predecessor as captain (which also rendered the ship overweight and sluggish). According to that, Porter requested they change back to long guns before the war, but was refused on the grounds that the change was too expensive (he was offered a few eighteen pounder long guns to supplement the battery, but refused). So there's an "I told you so" level of validity to his complaint, but I'm suspicious if the long guns would have substantially changed the outcome. Even if the lighter weight would have made the ship faster to escape under normal circumstances, she'd still end up partly dismasted and outgunned. He'd still be picking a fight he was ill suited to win.

  • @gracesprocket7340

    @gracesprocket7340

    4 жыл бұрын

    A 12lb gun weighs ~30cwt iron on deck (plus carriage), with powder and shot of typical quantity ~ stored below the waterline - taking the overall ordnance weight to around 44cwt. Majority on deck. The 32lb carronade weighs ~17cwt iron on deck (plus slide), with powder and shot of typical quantity ~ again stored below the waterline taking the overall ordnance weight to around 48cwt. Majority in shot lockers in hold. This is slightly heavier, but not by enough to 'swamp' the hull. Excess supplies to sustain multi-month patrol, plus 'loot' from her prizes might well do so however.

  • @GrouchierBear

    @GrouchierBear

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gracesprocket7340 neat info, though I think part of the problem was that the Essex not only had slightly heavier guns than she was originally built with, but also carried more of them than she was supposed to. Still though, I doubt it would have changed the outcome of the fight.

  • @tagofox4603
    @tagofox46033 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. We must bring back the lost art of flag trolling.

  • @spartanofrome5945
    @spartanofrome59454 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else kinda interested in seeing Drachinifel play Rule the Waves 2 and see what kind of ships he makes?

  • @stephenryan1988
    @stephenryan19883 жыл бұрын

    Good book on this subject, Mad for Glory by Richard Booth. He is from Marblehead which borders Salem, MA in Essex County

  • @happyhighway106
    @happyhighway1064 жыл бұрын

    #272 Thank You for the History!

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland4 жыл бұрын

    British Midshipman: Seaman first class Harper, prepare trolling flag! Seaman Harper: Trolling flag ready Sir! Midshipman: Commence painting of message, as I dictate: Seaman Harper: Very well, Sir! British crew and Captain: That should teach them LOL LOL

  • @aebirkbeck2693
    @aebirkbeck26934 жыл бұрын

    When I saw the title I instantly thought "why is Drachinifel doing a talk on Moby Dick" then realised some had HMS and others USS in front of their names :>)

  • @dayofmone
    @dayofmone4 жыл бұрын

    Strange, an Aircraft Carrier with sails. How did they do that?

  • @christopherconard2831

    @christopherconard2831

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ur mom Excellent planning. Keep the planes in kit form until needed. Space saving at it's best.

  • @EdMcF1

    @EdMcF1

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's the third new British carrier. Eco-friendly wind power, and stealthy, even with eyeballs it's impossible to believe it's going to attack.

  • @mpetersen6

    @mpetersen6

    4 жыл бұрын

    All that rigging actually functions as the arrestor gear

  • @vger4156
    @vger41562 жыл бұрын

    They were using the King's English to troll one another! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @rcwagon
    @rcwagon3 жыл бұрын

    Another delightful guide. Though the "more" than "less" on 5 minutes was heavily reinforced, the guide was so good, I hardly noticed. I must add that the music and video opening of these guides is awesome. The combination really hits home! It deserved comment before from the first one I watched, but alas, did not come to fruition. By the way, what is the opening music? I have not been able to identify it.

  • @trxnme2082
    @trxnme20824 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like an early version of the river plate, British numerical superiority and trolling triumphing over "commerce raiders".

  • @jacktattis143

    @jacktattis143

    4 жыл бұрын

    TRXnMe: Yes exactly my thoughts

  • @JonatasAdoM
    @JonatasAdoM Жыл бұрын

    The equivalent of a parking lot showdown in the sea.

  • @hellhound47bravo3
    @hellhound47bravo34 жыл бұрын

    Well, apparently you DIDN'T forget about the "Essex". Another fine video.

  • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
    @MaxwellAerialPhotography3 жыл бұрын

    **Scholarly Teddy Roosevelt noises intensify**

  • @densealloy
    @densealloy4 жыл бұрын

    Any chance for a video on the USCGC Eagle?

  • @craighagenbruch3800
    @craighagenbruch38004 жыл бұрын

    who doesn't like a good bit of trolling

  • @GrahamCStrouse

    @GrahamCStrouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Craig HAGENBRUCH Norwegians aren’t overly fond of trolls...

  • @geraintthatcher3076
    @geraintthatcher30764 жыл бұрын

    Any chance of doing the Pelican v Argus duel in the future ?

  • @bothewolf3466
    @bothewolf34664 жыл бұрын

    Do the Whaler Essex, inspiration for Moby Dick.

  • @peterm4475
    @peterm44752 жыл бұрын

    Hillyar was knighted and became an admiral. He died in 1843. Both his sons also became admirals in the Victorian navy.

  • @user-dg9pu4pe9d
    @user-dg9pu4pe9d11 ай бұрын

    I misread the title and it was the Exeter which was a most unfortunate whaler.

  • @eliseeker8301
    @eliseeker83012 жыл бұрын

    The pre-Essex US NAVY: A Force of Pollywogs.

  • @gracesprocket7340
    @gracesprocket73404 жыл бұрын

    The other example of range and carronade's poor showing has more validity. The loss of the RN squadron in lake Eire, was at least in part due to the ability of the USN gunboats to fire on the RN flotilla as it attempted to fight and then to retreat... however here, the exchange was between 32lb long guns of 56cwt and 9'6" and the RN's 24lb and 18lb carronades, and with light airs preventing the escape of the defeated fleet from the engagement range.

  • @chaosacsend9653
    @chaosacsend9653 Жыл бұрын

    We need another Essex jr.

  • @huskythedinosaur1592
    @huskythedinosaur15924 жыл бұрын

    HMAS Perth? You can choose if it will be the Destroyer or Cruiser.

  • @warrenlehmkuhleii8472
    @warrenlehmkuhleii84724 жыл бұрын

    How many videos on the Essex class do we need? Oh wait.

  • @josiahricafrente585

    @josiahricafrente585

    4 жыл бұрын

    Warren Lehmkuhle yes

  • @jameslancaster6365

    @jameslancaster6365

    4 жыл бұрын

    The number of videos shall be as numerous as 20 & 40mm mounts!

  • @jefferyindorf699

    @jefferyindorf699

    4 жыл бұрын

    well, one for each Essex, so about four more I guess.

  • @Uhlan_
    @Uhlan_3 жыл бұрын

    USS wasn't officially used until 1907. Essex would have been, and was in contemporary references, a United States FRIGATE, or USF Essex. Ships were referred to by their rate, which drove Teddy Roosevelt nuts when he was Secretary of the Navy, having to read "first class armored cruiser this" and "second class sloop of war that" so when he was president he issued executive order 549 to put a stop to it. Since THEN all US Navy vessels IN COMMISSION are prefixed with USS.

  • @MakeMeThinkAgain
    @MakeMeThinkAgain4 жыл бұрын

    This was splendid, but I have one complaint. If you are going to refer to a "Porter" in the early days of the USN you have to specify which one. Still hoping for more about the campaign against the Barbary pirates. Think of all the hits you will get if pirates are in the description. And it's great history.

  • @gumimalac
    @gumimalac4 жыл бұрын

    HAH! " soon after leaving port congress lost its head and went wildly off coarse..... also the frigate was dismasted and had to return to port." Thanks for making fun of politics while expressing no real bias or opinion on the matter. the internet need more people like you.

  • @Shadow-sq2yj

    @Shadow-sq2yj

    3 жыл бұрын

    Timestamp?

  • @NathanDudani

    @NathanDudani

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shadow-sq2yj 2:53ish

  • @farmertyler8087
    @farmertyler80872 жыл бұрын

    It’s named after the county I’m from lol. I clicked on the video like “huh, I wonder if that ships named after essex county Massachusetts”

  • @finlayfraser9952
    @finlayfraser99524 жыл бұрын

    How about the SMS Emden? A true Boys Own adventure!

  • @roscoewhite3793

    @roscoewhite3793

    4 жыл бұрын

    A double episode of SMS Emden and SMS Wolf; the two most successful surface raiders of the Great War.

  • @karldubhe8619
    @karldubhe86194 жыл бұрын

    Will you also be doing a video about the HMS, er I mean USS President? :) I just finished "The Challenge", I enjoyed the book thanks for recommending it.

  • @ccrtv6198
    @ccrtv61984 жыл бұрын

    ✨🇺🇸Very Interesting, kids love stories ❣️🙏🏽Thanksgiving 🇺🇸&🇳🇿 Friends and Allies 👌

  • @eagleclawproduction1
    @eagleclawproduction14 жыл бұрын

    Can't tell if he's hinting at a battle of mobile bay video coming up or not