Just remember that the Enterprise E had the most significant upgrade of any Federation ship......Emergency Seat belts.

@starmada105

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I love about the kelvin timeline. Seatbelts man. You’d think for an organization that has people getting thrown out of their chairs so much they’d have learned that by now.

@IsaacRizard

3 жыл бұрын

That would definitely improve the incidence of people tumbling over the console. As in any ship, I still cannot understand why they keep things untethered.

@Starjumper2821

3 жыл бұрын

@@IsaacRizard To make sure the audience knows the ship is being hit and tensions kept. Pretty sure in the actual reality seat belts would be pointless, because anything that gets through the inertia dampening is probable to paste the crew. EV suits for survival after hull breaches or life support failure should be standard though. Actors would just hate it even more than already memetic TNG uniforms.

@IsaacRizard

3 жыл бұрын

@@Starjumper2821 I think the audience of today want some realism on screen but I do think you have a point on the seat belt front but still it is problematic. Without seat belt, a person may survive an impact by being flung forward to cushion the momentum of impact but at the same that person becomes a projectile that might hit hard surfaces and another person. With seatbelt, you may got bruises on contact points but at least, the risk to life is minimal. And having standing station while flying a starship? What's up with that? If I'm not mistaken, the lower the centre of gravity, the more stable a person is. The Expanse illustrates space travel mechanics better than Star Trek.

@svenstopke415

2 жыл бұрын

And than the upgrades got removed again in the movie atleast.

Ah, the "our cgi budget was increased" episode.

@bhuvaneshs.k638

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 underrated comment

@juniorjr.427

3 жыл бұрын

It's due to the people that have the smaller package CBS all access with commercials.... The more people go back and watch the more money they get off of commercials..... They make more money off the commercials than people who have the package with no commercials...

@ThatanOmega

3 жыл бұрын

Only wished they're had changed the uniforms too

@calhoun24

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatanOmega That might eventually happen, but give them time. Maybe they might do a Discovery variant version of the new fleet uniform. We’ll see.

@dbzssj4678

3 жыл бұрын

Next episode, running emergency power only...

Imagine if a ship from year 1200 was transported to our time and all we did was add a diesel engine and give everyone on it a smartphone. They'd be still doing missions on their wooden ship with their 1200 uniforms while texting each other

@DarkNexarius

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget that the wooden ship would be faster than any ship in our current fleet (BEFORE the upgrades).

@reezlaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkNexarius hahaha true!

@bermanmo6237

3 жыл бұрын

Well it DS9 during the attempted coup of the Federation, the Defiant was attacked by a 100 year old Excelsior class ship. Except that ship, the USS Lakota, was upgraded with phasers that would be more appropriated on the Galaxy class. Yes, it did do considerable damaged to the Defiant. Plus it had quantum torpedoes, which no starfleet warship had at the time. Sort of like when the the Soviet Union finally got the atomic bomb, we just exploded the hydrogen bomb. However, those upgraded Excelsior class ships were still no much for the faster and better armed Dominion ships with their swarm and often kamikaze tactics. Of course, sometimes old ships given different tactics might still win against more modern opponent. During the Battle of Surigaro Strait, a fleet of six old American battleships, all of them were originally sunk at Pearl Harbor that were later raised from the harbor and modified, managed to sunk a fleet of more modern Japanese warships, including 2 battleship. FYI, their original intent was to provide firepower to the marine landing force for the invasion of the Philippines.

@mackgiver875

3 жыл бұрын

The phones wouldn't work though.

@mackgiver875

3 жыл бұрын

@@bermanmo6237 I have always presumed that the Excelsiors in TNG were mostly new build, or at least newer, rather than the hulls being from the original construction run. The Excelsior hull form was an old design that didn't mean the ships themselves were old. Upgrading the power, engine, computer, and weapon systems to 24th century standards would probably require ripping out and replacing all the power conduits and computer systems and such throughout the ship on a regular basis. I'm not sure it wouldn't have more efficient and cost-effective to just build new ships.

2:12 Why do i hope that a recurring gag for the future is Linus dropping in from nowhere looking for the mess hall?

@JacobRavenglass

3 жыл бұрын

Just watch: The day he masters it is the day he saves everyone’s damn life on the Discovery.😉

@walterdayrit675

3 жыл бұрын

That or he kills himself and the crew if he accidentally teleports into Discovery's warp core triggering a catastrophic explosion resulting in the destruction of the ship!!

@sd501st5

3 жыл бұрын

@@walterdayrit675 If he transported himself into the warp core, he would be converted to energy... he is matter, the warp core is a Matter/Antimatter Annihilation reactor. ;) But I'm sure that something equally catastrophic actually happened in this timeline at some point. Say, Transporting a few centimeters too low into your seat, fusing cloth, skin and flesh with the seat. Ugrrghhh... afterwards, there would be security measures implemented, like designating only certain parts of the ship as "teleportable" with auto-abort procedures of course included. And later, some other poor crewman probably found out that they shouldn't integrate a replicator into it, either for... a variety of reasons.

@reezlaw

3 жыл бұрын

They already did it ad nauseam in this episode, I think that's plenty enough

@thetriple7-7-78

3 жыл бұрын

Behold my new favorite gag character

In the future, Discovery could literally be hailed by scavengers, klingons, romulans, any hostile forces yet they get hailed by a cat

@2themoon863

3 жыл бұрын

Any different than a ship being saved several times....by a teenager?

@darknerd8332

3 жыл бұрын

2themoon u mean Adira Tal?

@2themoon863

3 жыл бұрын

Wesley Crusher.

@Bustermachine

3 жыл бұрын

@@2themoon863 Wesley also put the ship in danger several times. In fact, I think the thing he most frequently saved the ship from was himself. Kind of a shame cause Will Wheaton has gotten a lot of crap for that roll while he seems to be a pretty nice guy in person. Going back and watching the series now, it's not so much that Wesley was bad. It was that there was too much Wesley. And I don't know if that was an inherent flaw of early TNG writing or because they wanted to have a relatable 'kid' character for younger audiences.

@allanegleston4931

3 жыл бұрын

meow . i wonder if that is in the universal translator algorithems ?

I like how everyone looks at Tilly like “Wait you *know* this cat?”

A cat...just hailed....Federation Headquarters.

@Excalibur01

3 жыл бұрын

Well no, a cat hailed Discovery

@RGMerkel

3 жыл бұрын

ALL HAIL CAT!

@jessmith7324

3 жыл бұрын

Well he is the captain lol

@davepowder4020

3 жыл бұрын

Now we see the 33rd century come into play. Where cats rule the universe at last!

@FederationThunderbolt

3 жыл бұрын

the cat wants 32nd century catnip and discovery has some of it

Grudge must be hungry. I'm guessing is past his feeding time.

@daniels7907

3 жыл бұрын

Attention Hooman slaves. You will feed me now or I will fire quantum torpedoes.

@thidaulam2223

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@nazreenpg

3 жыл бұрын

@@daniels7907 my sides!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

@mygamingaccount3201

3 жыл бұрын

Im guessing the translator can speak cat and feed it

@shanenway3684

3 жыл бұрын

Grudge thinks Discovery is a giant can opener 😆

I love how everyone looked at Tilly as soon as she knew who it was

@slavicvasenin6685

2 жыл бұрын

That's because we've seen how those two have met each other

@jarowan

2 жыл бұрын

Someone should have asked if that was a Caitian.

@redstoneddad3981

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt any of them had seen "Love, Death, and Robots" 😅

@pderham26

Жыл бұрын

The Elephant in the room

@wngimageanddesign9546

Жыл бұрын

I didn't get it...who's the cat? :)

I'm just waiting for them to enter into a dampening field and watching those nacelles go flying off.

@sd501st5

3 жыл бұрын

If we are to assume that this tech is out of the prototyping- testing phase, then you can be assured that they are "somehow" protected against this. Maybe the programmable matter forms a hard lock to nacelle in nanoseconds? Who knows. That's the interesting thing about this new tech I'd like to find out And just to reiterate, Discovery's Spore Drive, despite improvements and efficiency enhancements, is *still* a as much of a prototype as something can get.. unsanctioned because after 2188 it de facto stopped existing. ;) The "Human Interface Device" ethical problem has been solved by Adira though. ^^

@SoranoGuardias

3 жыл бұрын

I would assume that the programmable matter would maintain it's previous state inside of a dampening field. That would be a pretty "DUH" thing to account for, but this is Discovery we are talking about.

@cyberstar251

3 жыл бұрын

@@sd501st5 wouldn't the programmable matter need energy in order to function? if they did enter a dampening field of some sort that drains ower wouldn't that stuff just go inert?

@sd501st5

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyberstar251 Well, this is all trying to find explanations for things the writers thought way less hard about than we do. ;) That said... 1.)You can shield anything against EMP today. I don't think I need to explain further ^^ 2.)Programmable matter is basically the same as the "Polyalloy" of Terminators T-1000, nanomachines. And those have a DEFAULT setting, which I imagine to be "physically connect again". Unless you destroy the matter itself, it will always attempt to reform the programmed design or function. The problems begin when the individual pieces get damaged in any way... Terminator 2 Directors Cut, after being frozen to extremely low temperatures, shattered, and then melting again, the T-1000 began malfunctioning. It involuntarily mimicked the surroundings(default behaviour, mimic to hide, return to main mass when possible) and sometimes just glitching out (reforming the Robert Patrick form despite already being in that form, with a visible metallic "wave" or ripple effect). That's how John knew which Sarah was his mother after all... the T-1000's feet had mimicked the wire plate it was they all were standing on. ^^

@mackgiver875

3 жыл бұрын

Curious why it didn't start spraying warp plasma all over the place myself.

2:45 I love that blank look on all the faces of the crew when the cat takes the communicator call.

@drmayeda1930

Жыл бұрын

The cat MADE the call. That officer from starfleet HQ must have been the most surprised by seeing a cat on the instrument panel.

"...and if the ship takes a glancing blow, the programmable mater in your consoles is programmed to reformat into irregularly stone-based objects to be blown away by a hyperpolarized gravitational wave magnets complete with holographic spark systems." "do we really need that?" "well it's not standard, but historical records show a more primitive feature was used on ships until the mid 25th century."

@daniels7907

3 жыл бұрын

With any luck, Starfleet rediscovered fuses by the 32nd century.

@pyrioncelendil

3 жыл бұрын

@@daniels7907 That'd be a start. But at that rate, circuit breakers would probably take them another two millenia.

@daniels7907

3 жыл бұрын

@@pyrioncelendil - They also need to start thinking in terms of energy efficiency. I have never understood why control consoles need so much electricity flowing through them that a short circuit is equivalent to getting hit by a lightning bolt. *Time Police* - 1.21 *gigawatts!?* If we find a DeLorean in the shuttle bay you are *so* busted!

@pyrioncelendil

3 жыл бұрын

@@daniels7907 They're more like feedback explosions from power surges. The best analogy I could think of is that they forgot how to build step-up and step-down transformers in the third world war and decided they'd just run everything straight raw off the power station's output. And the moment there's a surge anywhere along the transmission line, the extra energy has to go somewhere, and it's the home appliance and its user who eats all the excess energy, very much analogous to a lightning strike. So they forgot how to build surge suppressors too. The sad thing is I'm not even an electrical engineer. This is shit a layman understands is necessary for electrical safety, just as seatbelts are needed for physical safety in a moving vehicle. Something else lost in the third world war.

@seawolf4846

3 жыл бұрын

@@pyrioncelendil I see it as the Surge starting in the EPS grid, basically imagine the flow as water running through a pipe. Naturally due to its nature, it can make safety features a bit difficult particularly when the EPS Surge happens it's like a water hammer. When it hits a power converter, it causes a power surge. The reason it's safe is because these power converters draw only as much energy as is required for the consoles that they are connected to thus making the need for Step up and Step down transformers sort of redundant, but the power converter converts the Electro-Plasma flow to AC Power. Thus you need a transformer to convert the AC to DC. There are circuit breakers, but sometimes the power surge that comes from the Power Converter overwhelms it. Then it hits the transformer and causes the thing to explode.

In the fourth Star Trek movie, imagine the USS Enterprise gets upgraded

I never understood why you'd want any sort of detached anything on your space ship let alone your means of ftl travel. if you have any sort of failure then they'll just float away it's the same problem they have with the lack of a hangar door a single force field failure and any crew in there are suddenly blown into space. Also i don't understand how it'll add increased maneuverability because they're still there they're just floating there right now it's not like you're moving any less mass. Edit: I am willing to concede that the detached nacelles might be for better warp travel but you can't convince me that the lack of a physical hangar door is a good idea.

@msrlapin99

2 жыл бұрын

It is my tentative understanding that the placement of the nacelles around the ship define the shape of the warp bubble around the ship. Voyager has a high-speed mode where the nacelles drop down. Having nacelles that can go anywhere around the ship at any time presents all sorts of options when it comes to shaping that warp bubble.

@cailco100

2 жыл бұрын

Think of it this way, with the nacelles being ditaches they can move in any directions and help move the ship better and quicker. Like the vector thruster nozzle of jet fighters.

@redstoneddad3981

2 жыл бұрын

@@cailco100 don't forget moving thru an asteroid belt, debris clusters, or avoiding enemy fire. Multiple uses to great to mention them all 😅

@xanderx51

2 жыл бұрын

Well having a ship that can adjust its shape in anyway can have major benefits. Even if it's only the engines. Many tactical scenarios.

@naggie6358

2 жыл бұрын

I personally agree with The_Nerd. The warp nacelles are only invovled in warp travel, they are not involved in sublight travel; for that manouvering thrusters are used. Consequently detaching the nacelles gives no manouverability advantage. They do give the ability to adjust the shape of the ship's warp field, yes, but as has been noted Voyager also had this ability while still having physical pylons; both less complex and less prone to failure, as the original comment pointed out any power failure however brief would cause the warp nacelles to irretrievably drift away into space and leave the ship without any warp drive. I also disagree with the notion that detaching the nacelles would have any advantage in reducing the target profile of a ship or in avoiding enemy fire. In both cases it must be noted that the warp nacelles' pylons are still present, so depending on the ship a large part of the target profile is still there. The odds of being struck are only slightly reduced, and only in the smallest area; the location most likely to be impacted by asteroids or targeted by enemy fire would be the secondary hull and saucer section, both of which are still exactly the same size. So any gains in hazard avoidance will be minimal at best. So for this minor advantage, we must now analyse the costs of this design that could have been achieved with technology hundreds of years old: chief among them, increased maintenance complexity and a constant large power drain coupled with a more fragile system. Remember, if the power ever fails at any point then the nacelles just...float away. So the system can never be shut down for maintenance, and can never be damaged, else warp capability is lost until the nacelles can somehow be acheived. I feel it is also important to note that no ship after Voyager ever implemented variable warp geometry pylons, so the advantages of that technology must not have been significant enough on even their comparatively extremely robust and reliable system to outweigh the costs of implementing it.

The explanation of keeping the interface similar to ease the crew's transition is a clever way of reusing the bridge set without having to build a new one.

I wonder if the consoles are now made of programable rocks and explodium? 😂😂😂

@kayseek1248

3 жыл бұрын

The one constant in ST, rocks inexplicably falling from the ceiling when the ship is damaged.

@spacetechempire510

3 жыл бұрын

Aren’t all space craft in the Star Trek universe have consoles made of explodium. That tend to explode when a portion of the ship gets hit the console is linked to.

@thomasfletcher4765

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget " sparknium "

@sharptrooper2472

3 жыл бұрын

Explodium was discovered from the old way consoles exploded: conduit overloads. They realised they could harness the kinetic energy from the overload and pack it into a solid element.

@ethanlauder4887

3 жыл бұрын

Ironically being in Security is the safest place on a Federation ship. They don't go anywhere near the consoles.

I'm with Detmer here. I feel like all these upgrades are going to bite the crew one day soon.

@bermanmo6237

3 жыл бұрын

See all the terminator movies.

@daefaron

2 жыл бұрын

"Our power useage just skyrocketed with all these programable matter consoles everywhere and our nacelles being held in place by energy, not being physically connected. Therefore our useage of Dilithium has increased by a ton and we've started running out a lot quicker."

@CrestOfArtorias

2 жыл бұрын

Well that detachable nacelle sure helped... .

@Rocksteady72a

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone's eyeing those nacelle's for sure. One proper EMP...

@light-.-

Жыл бұрын

@@Rocksteady72a ...and everything goes bye bye

Tilly: Grudge? Discovery Crew: .... ?

@zeroneutral

4 ай бұрын

Me: ghey

So basically, the badge does EVERYTHING for them?? Does it serve coffee too?

@sd501st5

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, no personal replicator yet.

@HaloInverse

3 жыл бұрын

They function as personal transporters, and could presumably send requests to the ship's replicators, so...probably? Maybe not out-of-the-box, but with a bit of jury-rigging, a transporter + a replicator within transport range = a personal replicator.

@lumberluc

3 жыл бұрын

Its Nano-tech. With the right tools, yes, it'll give you some coffee.

@ServantOfOdin

3 жыл бұрын

Janeway would be sooo proud.... No more nebular-seeking...

@TheZapan99

3 жыл бұрын

For something that is so easily stolen by the ennemies of the Federation in every previous series, that's going to be really problematic!

The acting is fan film level.

I remember a time when Star Trek used to cause me to internalize my thoughts and think about really deep philosophical messages that raised my I.Q.

@madcapmagician3130

3 жыл бұрын

before the 'dark times'.

@compmanio36

3 жыл бұрын

"Thinking is now bad, Citizen. We'll do that for you." - Ministry of Fact Checking

@OceanbornAngel

3 жыл бұрын

@@compmanio36 Dammit....

@sheeshkbobs0

3 жыл бұрын

The hell yeah we do!

@radgoncan

3 жыл бұрын

I can't get myself into this new Trek. This looks like a Sunday morning kids show to me. Granted, I only REALLY enjoyed TNG.

wow the bridge crew actualy got lines of dialogue, it only took two and a half seasons

@khalilwhispers2218

3 жыл бұрын

And it sounded like it. All SO annoying.

@bermanmo6237

3 жыл бұрын

It took two seasons to introduce them and give them names. Glad they are not no name or rank and last name only red shirted security officers.

@Rocksteady72a

2 жыл бұрын

They literally go around the room with each character in season 2's premiere. Goes to show how many of these comments are from people who haven't actually bothered to watch to see if their complaints are even still present 🙄

@AzguardMike

Жыл бұрын

​@@Rocksteady72a because most of the fans watched season 1 of this STD, hated it and peaced out. Noone knew their names, it took Pike demanding their names on a roll call for them to give the names out, by which point a majority gave up watching.

@jamiehorne1173

Жыл бұрын

Why are they complain about a tv show they refused to watch. They want to complain because bullies

Just imagine the horrifying chaos if all that programable matter gets hacked by enemy forces!!

@JacobRavenglass

3 жыл бұрын

It’ll be the Second Cylon War!

@travisfoster1071

3 жыл бұрын

Let the fun ensue!....

@walterdayrit675

3 жыл бұрын

@@JacobRavenglass Umm...wrong franchise but I think I get your point! 👍

@JacobRavenglass

3 жыл бұрын

@@walterdayrit675 By your command.😜🤖

@walterdayrit675

3 жыл бұрын

@@JacobRavenglass So say we all!!

Programmable matter looks a lot like control nano particles. The Star-fleet they found is Control.

@SeatBill

3 жыл бұрын

You can't SEE nano particles; you couldn't see the nano-machines that infected Leland. But you can SEE programmable matter; that's the difference!

@steeltimberwolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@SeatBill Programmable matter could be nano particles, we are just seeing a huge number of them. Nothing says that they can't combine to come into the macroscopic world.

@SeatBill

3 жыл бұрын

@@steeltimberwolf All good points; none of which I've denied or rejected out of hand. I just don't agree that programmable MATTER HAS to be nano-based; I think there are other technological reasons for the Federation using it that people aren't considering.

@ethanlauder4887

3 жыл бұрын

This IS the 32nd Century. Maybe it is nano particles. Just more advanced.

@Shinzon23

2 жыл бұрын

Here's a fun fact; they didn't actually manage to completely wipe out control,they just wiped out enough of it that what was left decided it would be a smart idea to hide in various computer systems for the next several hundred years until another opportunity came along to upgrade itself. I also suspect that the part of it that went genocodal lso got wiped out so the bit that's left is still not a friend to organic life but is no longer purely going "f*** all organics!"

geez this show has some big young adult dystopia vibes to it - not in the CGI (which is great), but in how the characters react to everything, good god remember when federation officers were portrayed with a level of professionalism?

@sharptrooper2472

3 жыл бұрын

It's supposed to represent team spirit among the crew

@davidlewis5312

3 жыл бұрын

that's kind of been my issue with the series since the beginning. I get they wanted to start with the inciting incident but they gave me no chance to buy into the character of Michael Burnham before pitting the character into some prolonged process of redemption arc. Its a really jump to imagine any other XO to go from "I think you got the wrong of this" to mutiny in the space Michael Burnham does. I don't think Kira would jump down that well that fast. And Kira legit hated Sisko in episode 1.

@gamlaman

2 жыл бұрын

Remember when Star Trek officers were professionals, but often also giant nerds who geeked out over interesting new technology, life forms, and other discoveries? I do. I mean, Picard may not have been as hyper about it but he LIVED for those moments. Dr. Bashir on the other hand was every bit that hyper about stuff he discovered.

@gamlaman

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidlewis5312 Yeah I agree with that one. IMO they kind of made the mistake many Star Trek series make, that in season 1 they try too hard to be just like previous series, and just do it worse. Then later, usually around season 3, they discover what they want this series to be, and it gets way better.

@sithisarcanis

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamlaman no the show is still crap. Just wish they would give up on Kurtzman Trek

Wow... they finally gave 'No-Response guy' a line... that showed some personality 😄

@J.Wolf90

3 жыл бұрын

Half the cast is no response guy

@daniels7907

3 жыл бұрын

At least they don't make them wear red shirts.

@compmanio36

3 жыл бұрын

@@J.Wolf90 All guys are no response guys, because men suck, amiright ladies? Ladies? We know you're the only ones watching. This show is clearly for the "grrrrl power" contingent....

@J.Wolf90

3 жыл бұрын

@@compmanio36 enter Q "Is this the ship of the valkyries? Or have you done away with men all together?"

@aiosquadron

3 жыл бұрын

@@J.Wolf90 Umm... The comms officer is a man. Saru is a man, mr. Squidhead (not being racist here, we just don't know the species' name) is also a man. (Even though they are a different species.) Man is present in this sip, and some of which is a bridge officer. (Yes, I know it's a joke)

After a thousand years a GTX 3070 finally became affordable to upgrade the Discovery, shame the ship still had a spinning disk going into black alert instead of an SSD :)

Linus needs his own show...about how he ends up in random places because he still hasn't mastered the transporter function of his comm badge. Maybe Grudge can join him. :D

It will be interesting if they explain why the hull number has been upgraded with a -A. My guess is that since Discovery was listed as destroyed that the -A is reflecting the ships reregistration.

@daniels7907

3 жыл бұрын

Correct. That was why Admiral Vance was initially wary. Starfleet records (doctored after the Control debacle) list Discovery as having been destroyed in 2258. Since time travel is banned in the 32nd century, it's just better to publicly claim that this is a different ship that is merely based on the original. It helps that they time traveled because the ship itself doesn't register as being very old. Adira commented on the oddity of such ancient technology in a starship that looked practically new. Now it's full of current technology and Future!Starfleet can still claim it's a refit, but also pretend that it's not the same Discovery from the 23rd century.

@inspector2363

3 жыл бұрын

That's a pretty logical reason, but there's no way that's the producers intentions. They had the animated Wrath of Kahn Enterprise as "1701-A" in Short Treks

@TempestCrown

3 жыл бұрын

Either that, or there's a theory that in a post-burn galaxy ships are scarce, so letters are now bestowed upon massive upgrading - they point to Voyager's-J "16 generations of upgrades" and the fact it looks the same. And of course there's the idea that it's a combination of the two.

@bermanmo6237

3 жыл бұрын

Like the Enterprise. Ex. NCC 1701, 1701A, B, C, D, E. Well, if you treat Star Trek Online, Odyssey class Enterprise NCC-1701F.

@CapitanoAraym

2 жыл бұрын

@@bermanmo6237 "Enterprise" (the TOS one) kept the NCC-1701 even after the TOTAL upgrade for the TMP era. The Constitution-class refit model known as "Enterprise-A", even if being the same kind of ship, was a totally different vessel, so we started to know the practice to add "letters". Each of the next in the line Enterprise was a new one, so the letter kept going... This... "thing"... called "Discovery" is the same vessel, just rebuild. No letter was needed (unless something is in the making just to not let known in the future that is the same ship... maybe some kind of possible risk of "Time directive violation")

Despite everyone's downplay, I enjoyed this scene and all the seasons. I can't wait for season 3 episode 12.

God i hate free floating parts on things. Especially when they will barely ever move from a standard position.

@captain_misaki

3 жыл бұрын

Detached nacelles feels.... wrong. Don't ask me why, I cannot qualify it.

The producers admitting that setting Discovery around the time of the original series was a mistake..

@compmanio36

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It was too advanced from the start to be 10 years before Kirk's time, even if you accept that TOS was primitive looking due to the budget and film limitations of the time, which it definitely was. You then had the movies that didn't have the budget problem and STILL they looked way less advanced than the Discovery did, 10 years prior to the Enterprise before it's refit in the first movie. Just totally out of place. If they had set Discovery after the end of Nemesis, then all the advanced tech would have made sense and not been a continuity issue. And if a ship comes forward 900 years into the future, you're not gonna refit it. You're gonna turn it into a museum or break it down to use the parts and material to remake a modern ship. This is like saying you can take a wooden sailing ship and turn it into a modern day AEGIS destroyer. LOL no you can't. You would never even try because it's not worth it.

@TheZapan99

3 жыл бұрын

It was only a mistake because their writers are incapable of respecting the established cannon.

@Janoha17

3 жыл бұрын

@@compmanio36 The Spore Drive is too valuable to make the ship a museum, and the Sphere Data has a highly-developed sense of self-preservation as part of Discovery, and is becoming sentient.

At least one of the concept artists had been watching Jupiter Ascendent while working. I can’t prove it, but I know it’s true.

@compmanio36

3 жыл бұрын

Every last scene in this show is lifted from another, better IP. There is zero original thinking present here.

Like how the cat 🐱 is flying around aimlessly 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The only part that caught my attention of this episode was that the cat meowed like a real cat.

@houinkyoma8233

2 жыл бұрын

The new Translator wasn't programmed yet.

A thousand years advancement in technology and none of the USS Discovery's crew have to spend years learning how new technology works?

@DuncanLarge

3 жыл бұрын

Er that training program is underway. If you are refering to the interface, it adapts to THEM, and it was implemented to be already familiar to THEM. Did you listen to any of the dialogue?

@sean12sean

3 жыл бұрын

@@DuncanLarge Lol if the interface is smarter than the crew, why have a crew?

@DuncanLarge

3 жыл бұрын

@@sean12sean Have you watched Short Treks? If you have them you will know that question is going to be answered.

@sd501st5

3 жыл бұрын

A thousand years advancement in technology, including effective teaching processes.

@sd501st5

3 жыл бұрын

@@sean12sean So it can't be called "Control". >_>

The problem with turning science fiction into fantasy is that everything loses its "weight". Stuff that can do basically everything sounds cool but it isn't interesting to watch

@invisiblerevolution

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@krinkrin5982

3 жыл бұрын

This looks like what I wrote in primary school, basically a power fantasy of fighting a medieval army with modern artillery. It *could* be good (see the ISOT event), but these writers have consistently shown to be unable to actually write decent characters. Or story. Or believable anything.

@gessnermatt

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah tech overload to the point where you have to call it “space magic”

@03chrisv

3 жыл бұрын

@@krinkrin5982 There's an anime called Gate that has a premise that is basically that, it's very entertaining.

@krinkrin5982

3 жыл бұрын

@@03chrisv Isn't this premise finished in like 2 episodes with a total crushing victory of Japan and then the rest is about Japanese playing US in the middle east but with a harem? Or did I mix my anime again?

The whole cat hitting communicator is hilarious

Programmable matter is the new Deflector dish, there's nothing it can't do

@TheZapan99

3 жыл бұрын

It can even destroy toy merchandising, with those stupid detached nacelles.

When your girlfriend watches Tron: Legacy one time.

Why do these people look like children being given toys instead of Starfleet officers? Also did I see correctly that a cat just penetrated the Federation distortion field?

@kaidenshepard8446

3 жыл бұрын

it seems thats wgat the writers want it to be these days, its all about lens glare, cgi, swearing and things being dumbed down, or just willy nilly stuff for the story, if you can call it a story, and of course a checklist and all that rubbish, instead of episodes that actually get the mind going, encouraging thoughts and ideas,

@bermanmo6237

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of like when cell phone, internet, e-mail, smartphones, and mobile computing were all new. When you finally get to use it for the first time, it is like a kid with a brand new toy. Well, it is like that same feeling.

@ismata3274

3 жыл бұрын

Havent you ever seen a father with his sons new birthday present toy or gadget from his say, grandparents? Heck the same goes with grandparents too... Play has no age, neither awe. I am quite certain the elders of the recent fleet jumped up from their chairs Yoda/grandmaster pycelle style and had an impromptu short "party" between themselves, after "obtaining" the spordrive. Even Vulcans would, and then say, age gives one certain liberties about handling of ones feeling. Not something we haven't heard from them.

@nyipnyop

3 жыл бұрын

They are not in any emergency, ship just got retrofitted, and everyone's in a good mood. In addition, they also received cool new gadgets with new tech to work with. To be excited like a kid is very normal in that situation.

@GeneralG1810

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismata3274 Oh yeah I'm sure in the marine corp, Army, Navy and air force when the commanders give them some new tech the recruits act like kids and the officers are fine with it, they don't expect them to act like mature recruits at all

The “programsble” matter looks way to weird and can see them switching back to button pressing cause something is going to cause the new updated stuff to shut down

@RGMerkel

3 жыл бұрын

Leaves something for a later episode or 2 then.

@tareqn.gaming1622

3 жыл бұрын

That's probably the idea lol

@blairbrown4812

3 жыл бұрын

My bet is on an act of utter betrayal that brings what's left of the Federation to it's knees,courtesy of Admiral Charles Vance. Little weasel.

@tareqn.gaming1622

3 жыл бұрын

@James McPherson the programmable matter is probably what we would get in about 1000 years, and btw they had to do the cgi at home so yeah.

@hoolioh3721

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how Klingon and Rumulan tech would look like. Also, how advanced would be the Kelpiens in 32nd century? Did they live in peace with the Ba'ul or exterminated them thanks to the federation's intervention?

Ah Disco. Never fails to disappoint.

Discovery, boldly going nonsensical, where no other trek series has gone before.

@nachiketh3650

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha it's a magic show at this point

2:42 KITTY!

Good luck, Eagle Moss😆

@sharptrooper2472

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

God the bridge crew are a bunch of children. "wow this is so cool!"

@barrybend7189

4 ай бұрын

I'd ask for some separate handheld equipment like a tricorder at least. Give the badge as backup. Frees up UI so I can use the badge for coms or transporter only.

Should have been called “space show”

@TheZapan99

3 жыл бұрын

Woke safespace.

@reezlaw

3 жыл бұрын

Star Soap

@shaun6828

3 жыл бұрын

More like magic show.....

@walkz007

3 жыл бұрын

Y'all stop🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

@airrider-jk9ik

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it shouldve been called star trek: discovery, cause its a star trek show about a ship called discocery, oh wait the show is called star tre discovery

This has to be the only show where detaching a critical part of a ship is considered an 'upgrade'

@LukeSpaceA

Жыл бұрын

justice for saucer separations!!!

@jetrexdesign

Жыл бұрын

They upgraded the ship from what Trekkies find interesting to what Executives find interesting.

The problem with this ST series is the exagerated tech. Everything is so possible and perfect... there’s no room to imagine things. It has more of a fantasy feel.

@Jelly-go9zm

3 жыл бұрын

...That's the point of tech.. making it better and better but there comes a point where you cannot imagine an upgrade to something so perfect like programmable matter

@walterdayrit675

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jelly-go9zm Programable matter means it it vulnerable to malicious hacking. Just imagine the horrifying chaos that will ensue what all that programable matter is used to attack the crew!!

@oliversharp374

3 жыл бұрын

It is 1000 years into the future. It needs to be exaggerated.

@wkcia

3 жыл бұрын

Arthur C Clarke's Maxim: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Imagine what a rational, smart, non-superstitious 1750s middle-class man would have thought of a modern phone and tried to describe it to his peers. Say an American founding father. "They have a device or apparatus about the size of an index or calling card, the thickness of about one quarter inch. Upon this device, men may manipulate the front surface (which appears to be made of glass) with their fingers, on which there is only one obvious button, which they press to activate. This device may be consulted to ascertain facts much in the way of a library of books; they may also be used to pass messages to another device by way of some communication or transmission through the air. No wires are required, unlike the telegraph. The devices allow men to hold conversations with other men who have similar devices, again through the communication abilities of the device through the wireless telegraph. The device can also obtain the likenesses of persons and store them as an image upon the device, and they can be recalled to the front surface and shown upon the glass with perfect replication. It is made by man... but it is as close to magic as I have ever seen of its like."

@chinaforcedorganharvest-me7062

3 жыл бұрын

Then just imagine harder, like space tech with inside bigger than outside, nano-battle armor, nano-converter, holodeck with everything almost real and the entire ship could be a giant holodeck. Quite frankly, with enough science fiction I read and watch, this ship or this 32nd century is quite low tech.

Its like when you remove wheels to improve handling on a car :-D

@reezlaw

3 жыл бұрын

I have bluetooth wheels

@ulrek54321

3 жыл бұрын

Actually more like fly-by-wire and Columnless steering.

@sharptrooper2472

3 жыл бұрын

So, flying cars then...

@starmada105

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I mean, the impulse engines would be more like the wheels, and those weren’t housed in the nacelles. The nacelles are like jet engines strapped to the back of your car.

@bermanmo6237

3 жыл бұрын

Or replace a gear shifter with gear shift buttons on a car. Yes, this part is actually real.

I only noticed it now but the stark contrass between the uniforms of discovery's crew and the rest of starfleet really conveys their hopeless ness.

Best line ever! "Do we really need all this?" "The Hell yeah, we do!" - That so would've been my response. lol

@jlomesou

3 жыл бұрын

Felt more like The Orville, than Star Trek.

@atorgerson1136

3 жыл бұрын

@@jlomesou DONT insult The Orville that way. :)

@bermanmo6237

3 жыл бұрын

At least the have a real Star Trek showrunner, Brannon Barga, the showrunner from TNG. Apparently, they also have real Star Trek writers. Even Lower Decks have real Star Trek writers.

@bloodfoxtriberc

Жыл бұрын

@@bermanmo6237 yea then maybe its time for those "real writers" (whatever that means) to step down and let people who care do new stuff instead... discovery is full of itself, not full of star trek...

So now pre TOS ships are even MORE more high tech than TNG ships?

@Milamberinx

3 жыл бұрын

Well... after they're upgraded with extremely post TNG technology, yes. Did you want Starfleet to install a shuffleboard deck and a grand gallery for promenading?

@ethanlauder4887

3 жыл бұрын

This is the 32nd Century. TNG ships are primitive by this point.

@michaelgreenwood3413

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethanlauder4887 hell, 26th Century TIMESHIPS are primitive by this point.

@NetMoverSitan

11 ай бұрын

@@michaelgreenwood3413Not to mention illegal.

This makes me immediately think of restaurant supply catalogs where every picture of a cook makes them look like even the spatulas are laced with cocaine. Like "Oooooh omagherd they're _AAAAMAAAZINNNNGGG!_ I'm livin the dreeeeeaaaammmm!!!"

Only downside is not seeing the upgrades in action in the episode.

@lancelot1546

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes.. especially the spore drive... What would be the new thing since the nacelle is detached

@maybezero2783

3 жыл бұрын

@@lancelot1546 would be cool if the nacelles started spinning around the ship during a black alert

@lancelot1546

3 жыл бұрын

@@maybezero2783 like spin on their own?🤣🤣🤣

@mygamingaccount3201

3 жыл бұрын

@@lancelot1546 i think the basic stuff like speed and accuracy. Beside the part we already saw with stamets interface inside the cube

I have many notes with 32nd discovery -no more Corredor’s from the out side ring to the middle ring -detach warp necelles -faster spinning (jumping and Energy dispersion) -brighter could more Silver and blue then copper -More curve to the saucer section from the secondary hull -secondary is more smooth -cut outs on The pylons

This is like the US Navy installing a nuclear reactor and commissioning a sailing ship from when the Vikings came over.

The day he transports in while a fight is engaged. And he ultimately saves the universe by transporting to the exact spot where the person nearly kills the crew. And says "This isn't the gym!?! "

The writers for this show are as detached from reality, continuity, fanfare, and the source material as the nacelles.

@urspendy

2 жыл бұрын

I miss old Trek

@hermeticallysealed1

2 жыл бұрын

@@urspendy Good thing those episodes are still there.

@williampyle8635

2 жыл бұрын

HOWEVER, they got PAID & YOU did NOT...jealous...."impuset0"???

@kasbakgaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@williampyle8635 Just because you're being paid to do something does not mean you know how to do it well. Look at Congress.

Eagle Moss just shat.

@Excalibur01

3 жыл бұрын

Right now, they're like...detached naccelles...shit

@harrisonrothacher2250

3 жыл бұрын

They’ll probably just put some clear plastic between the naccelles and the pilons.

@smudge4331

3 жыл бұрын

Yea they’ll probs use translucent plastic, but that never looks good in my opinion (Just look at the ISS Charon) but I won’t judge too critically until I actually what they might do.

@harrisonrothacher2250

3 жыл бұрын

@@smudge4331 yeah well I mean we can’t complain too much there’s no real alternative to translucent plastic, unless they use real magnet lev in which case the price would be astronomical. They show kinda put them in a hard place but I don’t mind too much cause the refit looks awsome

@thenextmrsbrownful

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe... they'll be clever and make it kind of transforming cloud like in the clip. ..oO.o.oo

I’m pretty impressed with Discovery this season. It’s much better than previous seasons in my opinion.

@kenk5269

3 жыл бұрын

the season gets better and better. 1 is good but 2 is a hell alot better, now 3? more awesome!!!

@RGMerkel

3 жыл бұрын

Most Trek takes 1 or 2 seasons before it gets better and finds it's own it seems. I am really enjoying season 3 a lot.

@Nichodo

3 жыл бұрын

@@RGMerkel Well they are in the 32nd century now, soo they can do whatever they want without BREAKING Canon like season 1 and somewhat season 2.

@StillSaber

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, they even got cats that could answer hails

@ashlynnp.9609

3 жыл бұрын

It's just what Star Trek does. The first couple of seasons of every show tend to kind of suck. It isn't until later seasons that they find themselves. It's getting really good, and I fully expect it to get even better.

Grudgee in this honestly looked in that hail as if he was wondering why the peasants refused to bow to them .

Increasing the distance of the most dense/heavy object of a starship (the engine nacelles) increases the rotational momentum. This REDUCES maneuverability, not increases.

@NuclearFridge1

2 жыл бұрын

Aka physics. Kinda unforgiving.

Lol they look like wizards...low key digging it

@RGMerkel

3 жыл бұрын

Not all the touch screens have been upgraded I do believe. Only seems to be key panels. Could be just the bridge controls, some engineering panels and the spore drive interface.

I get the feeling that Lt Detmer doesn't like the programmable matter interface.

The cat in the end is all that we can relate to on our Zoom meetings.

I expected the cat to start singing 9 lives jingle song.

Grudge the cat knows about Starfleet's secret main base. That cat could be a security leak. I would also get that cat to wear a camera in the cat collar to get some spying use out of the cat at the same time.

@aikrichter5403

3 жыл бұрын

maybe it'S a flerken?

The new SF uniform strangely resembles the Bajoran uniforms of DS9...

Back in 2021 we can’t diagnose our own cars when the check engine light comes on! 😆

im still convinced that cat is a changeling lol

1:54....my thought on this show as a whole, LMFAO

Star Trash: Hipsters in Space.

I have the same cat sitting on my lap watching this with me 😂😂😂

Permanently separate nacelles from the main airframe are one of the worst ideas EVER applied to a ship in space. That is waaaay too much trust placed on technology there. History has shown that a space ship's power source can go offline due to sabotage, accidents or violent engagements. The last thing the captain of a ship wants to hear from the bridge crew is " We've lost power and our warp nacelles are floating away!" Even when the old NX series ships lost power everything remained intact and you could get to it to fix it. You can't fix something that detached from you and is now a few parsecs from you.

This is what you get when internet cat videos evolve. Poignant warning.

When Discovery becomes and apple store

Steve Jobs: it's a phone, an iPod, and an internet device! Let me introduce you your new badge.

That's a new meaning to "cat calls" lol... letting you know it's feed me o'clock!!!

Now, I want the Discovery to return to their original timeline to show-off their new tech. lol

@cholodelrosari0543

3 жыл бұрын

Oh hail no. Federation Temporal Agency is waiving at Discovery

@alexk3201

3 жыл бұрын

Cholo Del rosari0 I don’t think it still exists

@walterdayrit675

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexk3201 The Federation Temporal Agency should be still around. How else would they enforce the temporal accords?

@alexk3201

3 жыл бұрын

Walter Dayrit didn’t the ban time travel technology so it could still be around but I am not sure what else they can do.

Just unesscasry controls.

That's no cat, that's a Flerken...

I would love to see the updated/upgraded discovery vs a borg cube from that century.

Best upgrade the Discovery could get would be a new TOS-style crew.....

And yet the biggest, most desperately needed upgrade: talented writing staff, was skipped entirely...

Thanks for the recap..Warning, keep your volume down for the rockin montage at the end!

You gotta love the cat😀😀

are they gonna bring back normal phasers again instead of using star wards pew pew blasters?

@daniels7907

3 жыл бұрын

Phaser technology degrades the further into the future you go. In TOS, a type I hand phaser was stated to be capable of blasting the side off a building. By the Dominion War, huge phaser rifles were less effective than real life ARs. I'd imagine that by the 32nd century phasers are used as laser pointers in briefings.

How exactly do detached nacelles improve maneuvering? It seems like that would be detrimental overall to have your wheels or engines detached from your vehicle. That being said I think its meant to improve maneuvering through *WARP FIELDS* not sublight space. Sort of like Voyagers folding nacelles but a LOT more advanced. Still, at least they removed one feature from the newer ships, the command centre no longer seems to be encased in solidified rock and space concrete that blows out in chunks when even the most insignificant damage is taken, so there's that I guess. Also how does a housecat know how to open a communication channel? Or send access codes? Or meow "helloooo" If I was captain I'd be asking some pretty large questions about that cats origins. Seems more like a "talking rick and morty cat" type deal than a housecat. Inb4 the cat turns out to be a shape shifter or something like an intelligent Flerken.

@L8ugh1ngm8n1

2 жыл бұрын

The rationale behind them is really stupid. The ships already use inertial dampeners to overcome the issues of changing the velocity of the ships mass and they can't be to help the ship 'manoeuvrer' at warp. Tom Paris ' At wrap flight no left or right' The ships don't manoeuvre whilst at warp, or at least they don't in any significant way having detachable nacelles is going to make it vastly better. You also have the fact that the ship already has a drive system in place that is vastly better than warp. I could have bought the rational if they had allowed something like the quantum slipstream effect or transwarp but no doesn't seem so. You also have the fact that they have significantly changed the structure of the ship and implemented two very large parts of it which are essentially contained by energy fields. On a ship that has an experimental drive that in essence no one in the future should technically have ANY knowledge of let alone whether or not it would work or be affected by their technology? Also doesn't help that it just looks plain stupid as well.

@fastertrackcreative

10 ай бұрын

Seems like there's a risk of them falling off altogether and being lost. I get that it's the future, of the future, but this is a weird logic.

@Humaricslastcall

8 ай бұрын

@@L8ugh1ngm8n1 Honestly there's a few benefits that i can see with this. - There may be no left or right in warp, but the shape of the bubble is defined by the warp coils. Unless they need to be reattached for warp - this means Discovery could just change it's warp profile essentially at-will. Warpodynamics/Aerodynamics is still a thing in Trek. They reattach when using the spore drive. - Assuming that it's a cyclical tracking beam, these detached warp nacelles can actually assist with sharp turns and the like by dragging on Discovery's frame like if it's attached to ropes (which tractor beams substitute in most cases). The fact that these nacelles can move on their own as well improves maneuverability and can - in some cases - make the ship more maneuverable than even fighters.

Pet me, but don’t touch. Also, feed me. Finally, the litter box needs cleaning.

The Visuals are amazing!!!

Star trek discovery is ageist. While watching the show with my mother she noticed the lack off older cast members. I didn't noticed it myself at first but once you look for it it's a gearing problem. Why exclude old people?

@NemoVir

3 жыл бұрын

They all died before they reached the top of Carousel.

LINUS!!!!

HAHAHA - Sorry, my cat made an intergalactic phone call. That is so 2020.

Now all we need is a story

@Delogros

2 жыл бұрын

And some actors... And some vague idea of what the word "Continuity" means even within it's own series.

Can you possibly NIX the annoying music montage at the end of your posts? Thanks🙃

It's the sentient cat species from meowington 9

Sometimes i wish this show wasn't based before Captain Kirks time but few more decades after Janeway's time on Voyager

Plot twist it's Data's cat in a time warp