When you put that Phillip's head screwdriver on those Torx screws it made the Baby Jesus cry.

@user-dp3ky3cm4l

5 ай бұрын

noticed the same thing, Wulf

This is an excellent guide and a perfect illustration of why I love the modern era of information sharing. There's no way on Earth I would have ever figured out how to put this all together without hours of frustrated tinkering. Heck, I wouldn't even know to buy the template guide and centering cone. Thanks for the great explanation of how everything goes together (I was able to do it pretty quickly with your video tutorial)!

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it was helpful and thanks for such a motivating comment! Router accessories and compatibility can be a weird space, ha!

Thanks for making it so easy! I bought the adapters because i knew i needed the for routing templates. Now I totally understand it. You should write manuals for Bosch!

@MasonWoodshop

3 ай бұрын

Haha! Thanks for the kind words.

this is the exact setup I have & have been searching for ways to use PC guide bushings on my Bosch routers....question answered!

@MasonWoodshop

6 ай бұрын

Happy to hear that - thanks for watching!

In the router manual on page 20, it explains the centering procedure. The cone is inserted from the other end and they actually say to center it with the adapter in place.

@algnojewski969

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Not sure what you mean by inserted from the other end but I agree that if you don’t center with the template guide and bushing installed, you’re just hoping everything is centered and not actually centering anything except the baseplate.

Thanks. Thought I would need to buy a new router plate (and actually ordered one from Rockler) until I saw your video. Thanks for the clarity!

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! Router accessories is a fascinating world.

Thanks for this vid! I bought the PC jig and a PC bushing set that I didn’t need, but couldn't figure out how to use them with my Bosch router. I bought the the Bosch adapter kit along with the cone, waited 3 weeks for delivery to Turkey and they arrived today! Can't wait to start dovetailing drawers tomorrow!

@MasonWoodshop

3 ай бұрын

Happy to hear that, enjoy!!

9:53 Treat the motor and all the inner prongs on the fixed base with a little graphite and it's much easier to reassemble.

You answered my questions and I appreciate it.

Thank you for sharing this information!

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad it was helpful!

Another excellent video. I have the same router and PC jig, which I am just beginning to use. Your videos have been indispensable. Thanks for taking the time to explain things so clearly.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and leaving such a positive comment! I definitely got into router mode in 2021 and I'm glad I did. Such a versatile tool, but intimidating to use at first and the quantity of accessories can be overwhelming.

Thanks a lot I’m going the same route hooked on the dovetail’s gotta have it. You gave me exactly what I was looking for and demonstrated it for beginners like me. Awesome dude.

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

I found the Bosch adapter to be more pain than it was worth. Much cheaper just to buy a clear universal base plate that accepts the PC bushings. No fumbling with all the pieces, Plus you get the benefit of a clear base to see your cuts through

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I agree that visibility stinks with the setup I was using. Which universal base plate did you end up using?

thank you sir i was going to ask if the adapter worked on the plunge router your the man thanks again

Thanks for the thorough explanation. None of the online images show the tool installed so it was really helpful to see how it all works. Now the decision is to buy just the adapter parts or the whole set.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear it helped!! I’ve really only used the adapter and one bushing myself, but the price wasn’t too bad (at the time) and the case is nice.

Leave the motor in the base, then insert the cone. So the base should between the cone and motor, and the cone should be acting on the bottom facing side of the base- the side that rides on the work piece, as opposed to the top side which faces the motor.

Good camera work.

Isn’t it funny how, as you mentioned, the PC guide bushings became more or less the industry standard, and now Porter Cable doesn’t even make routers anymore?! I think they still sell the dovetail jig though.

Today when I was setting up my new Bosch 1617EVSPK, I tried to remove the bottom plate screws with a Phillips head like you mentioned. At first I thought the screws were stripped until I got really close to the screw heads and saw those tiny torx heads. The manual was useless about what bit drive to use to loosen the plate for the centering cone or to install the adapter plate. I also wish there was a case diagram sheet that shows how all the components fit into the awesome case. It was like trying to solve some Egyptian Pyramid puzzle. I'm joking, it wasn't that hard to figure out but just a minor pain. Nice informative video as always, Sir.

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Haha, their documentation isn’t quite as good as it used to be and like you, I wish there was a sort of quick reference guide printed within the case.

@wulf67

Жыл бұрын

You're correct. The manual doesn't tell you which drive to use to turn each screw head. It also doesn't tell you not to eat yellow snow or not to get into the bathtub and pretend that the router is a nuclear submarine.

The centering cone goes from the other-outer side...so that it presses on the plate that you screw onto the base.

The Bosch centering cone is made of plastic and not centered. rotate the router shaft with the cone installed and you can see it wobble. I set up a dial indicator and it was off center by a lot.

Thanks for the info. Stumbled across as I was looking for the adapter system for my Bosch 1617 to use with the PC 4200 jig. Currently I use my old 1611 but the adapter is way different and the router is way too big for the jig. Try to use more editing in the vids to clean them up, otherwise, good info.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it could help! I still have a ways to go, but I have been putting work into both video/audio quality as well as editing. Hoping to keep getting better!

Save some money and make a base. I have a 20 year old craftsman router. There is no adapter for it. I just made one out of a piece of scrap mahogany, and it works like a charm.

Thanks for an excellent tutorial! A question,,,,why not just use the Bosch guide bushings? I am totally new to a router so please excuse what may be an obvious question! Thanks again!

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and a great question! Whenever I’m able, I do use the Bosch bushings, but with my dovetail jig I always use the Porter Cable bushings in the Bosch adapter as they are properly set for the jig and provided bits. This set gives some great flexibility at a reasonable price.

Any idea if it is possible to use RA1173AT dust extraction kit and this quick release guide bushing at the same time?

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Great question, unfortunately I don’t know. It does not work with my Oneida Dust Hood, although it is much different from the RA1173AT.

Are the PC bushings 30mm? Is that industry standard?

Why would you want to use th PC bushings when you purchased the Bosch bushings? Thank you

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

PC bushings were specific to the dovetail jig being used and are generally good quality. I did need to use the Bosh adapter.

Will this work on the plunge router base?

@scottdaugherty7562

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Does this template work on a Dewalt router? I just got the dovetail jig and now I’m thoroughly confused on how to mount the bushings

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not 100% certain, but my understanding has always been that Dewalt routers were compatible with Porter Cable bushings out of the box since they have the same parent company. I could be totally wrong on this assumption, of course.

@ewooster5720

2 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop I got it sorted- is not compatible with the faceplate on my router but is compatible with the faceplate that is on the plunge attachment

Now I know why the Festool 1400 is twice as expensive!! the festool is way more easy to set up!!! I guess ill wait the 1 more month for the Festool

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree and I’m growing increasingly frustrated with the setup process. It always works, but I’m planning to move to the new Festool myself sometime this year b

@scraplifetrashtocash4551

Жыл бұрын

@@patriot7734 🤣 Only 🤡 's waste their money on Festool.

He says “the hopes are it perfectly comes through this hole” (9:45). What he’s really saying is the centering cone only center the base but we are relying on faith that the template guide and bushing were manufactured with faultless tolerance because we didn’t check to see that they were centered. So is there a centering cone that can be used with template guide and bushing installed for a truly centered template guide??

It’s stupid that you have to buy that centering tool separately. When you buy the router you should get with the router

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Yes! It should be included.

I think you would have practiced using this before doing the video, it would have been far better

What a BS setup. Looks at the box of parts for a stupid bushing!👎 An easier solution is a CLEAR plastic plate knocked out on a cnc router that fits your bushing for that dovetail jig. Problem solved. Dewalt says they give you the cone with the routers, but they lie. Too bad PC quit making routers. They were just as good as that mexican bosch.

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

I’d love to get my hand on a Porter Cable 690 (or two)!