Waiting a crisp "Code Report" from Fireship 🔥

@jbrenes

6 ай бұрын

YES!!! specially the part about liking trains 🤣

@yash_693

6 ай бұрын

Lmao I was thinking the same.. 😂😂

feel the agi

@Feel_theagi

6 ай бұрын

What did Ilya see!

@IN-pr3lw

6 ай бұрын

​@@Feel_theagiit's inside of us. Internally

@preetham973

6 ай бұрын

Feel the agi

@Astro.004

6 ай бұрын

Not yet

@kaio0777

6 ай бұрын

@@IN-pr3lw I want to know so bad too

The problem showed in the video is from CodeTON Round 4 which was held 8 months ago. There are video editorials on KZread explaining it which are most definitely in its training data. They need to test these models with original problems which don't already have solutions in the training data...

@Cagrst

6 ай бұрын

They specifically said it is not in the training data, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say they didn’t lie in an incredibly provable way 🤦🏼‍♂️

@craftmechanics6483

6 ай бұрын

I rewatched the video and couldn't find a mention of the training data. Could you please provide a timestamp?

@maneshipocrates2264

6 ай бұрын

They sadly think it may work on its own. There are lots of biases

@Lalit-yw2tb

6 ай бұрын

Yes, this is incredibly important point to highlight. This is also why GPT-4 fails to solve any problems which are out of its training data for Leetcode, this was a very popular find in the early months of this year when GPT-4 was announced and everybody was testing its limits.

@edoardobruzzese98

6 ай бұрын

@@craftmechanics6483 3:58 he mention that he can do all that on problems that never see before so should we blindly trust him ? I don't know but I guess the future will say it :)

It would be nice to have a codeforces rating for the bot, maybe making it an official participant in contents from now on?

@udaykadam5455

6 ай бұрын

Where these models from different organisations compete

Can't wait to use this in my projects

@LAinLA86

6 ай бұрын

When are they going to releasse it? Im dying to get this, Ill pay whatever it takes!

@Google

6 ай бұрын

Excited to see all the helpful ways you use Gemini Pro with Bard 💪

@arunraju9705

6 ай бұрын

Cant wait because you wont be relevant once everyone starts using it?

@Niblss

6 ай бұрын

lmao, it will do "your" projects.

@vectoralphaAI

6 ай бұрын

If companies and corporations look at your "projects" as a way of determining you are good at programming or capable to do the job in order to get hired, but all your projects are done with AI or substantially by AI will it even matter anymore for getting hired? If i have 100 projects that are really good on my GitHub and all are made by AI or with the help of AI and i could not do them on my own without AI then will the company still hire me based on my projects and experience? Yet again if AI exists that can write code better than 90% of all programmers on Earth then why hire more programmers when you can have a smaller team and automate the job of thousands saving money and making more profit for the company. There are so many questions to answer over the coming years with this improved and capable tech.

Thank you, Google, for enabling this achievement. It brings me great joy to share this success with everyone involved.

This is what I wanted, let's hope they have gotten better in helping to code more efficiently and accurately

@LAinLA86

6 ай бұрын

Its pretty disturbing it doesnt work for Javascript since that's one of, if not the most popular language today

@Niblss

6 ай бұрын

You wanted to be obsolete? Weird

@rockokechukwu3343

6 ай бұрын

Does it mean it's usually correct but doesn't strive for efficient and robust code?

@RonnieBanerjee007

6 ай бұрын

​​@@LAinLA86 javascript shouldn't exist. Javascript is a menace.

@chickenlin

6 ай бұрын

then you need another ai to debug ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I wonder how good is this model at understanding various APIs the programmers code against, not just pure algorithms in a vacuum. This is a crucial factor for its application in practice to solving practical problems 🤔

Perhaps the editorial for this problem was included in the training set. This problem is from the contest held in March 2023.

One of the problems with using GPT-4 is that the methods are limited. If you ask it to search for something that exists in the real world and create an image of it, it will always stay in the mold you created before and repeat your mistakes. Make a small improvement and GPT-4 moves on to another chapter, or make a small improvement and suddenly the paradigm shifts. Gemini hopes to avoid repeating these GPT-4 mistakes. I think Google has an advantage because they have years of experience data from tons of people, but as they say, with great expectations come great disappointments, so I will always look at GEMINI with a filter of caution.

When I want to go back again and then the algo just gave me this. Perfect!

Imagine how beneficial would be a more generalized version of Gemini to individuals with vision impairment. This may open the door and allow a new generation of biomedical devices that enable them to experience a sense of spatial awareness by navigating their surroundings with unprecedented autonomy (guided by a continuous stream of auditory information about obstacles, potential hazards, and so on).

@Danuxsy

6 ай бұрын

Each person should have an AI that can hear what you hear and see what you see all the time, in this way the AI knows everything you know, it know when you last ate, what you ate, it know about that meeting your coworker talked about, etc... this would be revolutionary if implemented IRL. You wouldn't need a Calendar to keep track of things, the AI does it for you. You don't need to look up recipies, the AI does it for you, it even guides you when you're making it in real-time! THIS is the future I want. and imagine how much DATA and statistics you could gather from a person, what sites they are browsing, how often they stay on them, what stores they visit, what they buy, literally your entire life can be tracked, what you talk about in conversations, who your friends are... ALL OF IT !!! Google Deepmind make it happen ASAP. I want an AI available to me 24/7, I want it to wake me up in the morning, tell me what to eat, what to wear, what to do (based on all my history)!!!!! the point is to NEVER be disconnected from the systems, i don't want to have to take up my phone to interact with my AI, it should constantly be involved in my life and improve it at every turn.

@ashutoshsamantaray6596

6 ай бұрын

We don't need gemini to do that, we already have stuff in computer vision that can help blind people in a much better way.

@BarnoBarno-jp2ks

6 ай бұрын

@@ashutoshsamantaray6596 gemini can give far more context than typical object detection ,not to mention explaining what's happening rather than just pointing out what's out there

I am really excited about this. Hope it really does outperform GPT-4 turbo in coding. GPT-4 turbo does not always do a good job, and has a tendency to make small mistakes, just like us humans.

@starship3812

6 ай бұрын

Bro listen gemini ultra is better at python code than gpt 4 but gpt 4 turbo is still better than gemini ultra python code capabilities. Gpt4 turbo is 94.2% vs gemini ultra 93.2% vs gpt 4 91%. I think u need to wait for GPT 5 when all these problems will be sorted out in 2 yrs.

@torarinvik4920

6 ай бұрын

@@starship3812 Sad but true :(

The code structure and style suggests its trained on codeforces submissions in the past. Would be interesting to see if any solutions from alphacode2 is significantly different from any top competitors or learning from them.

@sourabhkhandelwal689

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! It's still impressive but can it perform the same in a live contest?

This is truly the gap between this incoming model, and GPT for the ability to not only create an outline, but to create an actual working prototype is something that GPT four can’t/won’t do

@starship3812

6 ай бұрын

But gpt 4 turbo is still better than gemini ultra

Although I am not a programmer, I have utilized GPT-4 for my projects in Google Apps Script. GPT-4 is not without its flaws and I will get stuck from time to time. I am hopeful that Gemini will address and rectify the issues I've encountered with GPT-4.

@thiagofelizola

6 ай бұрын

me too

@thewanderingwizard9848

6 ай бұрын

I know Bard isn't Gemini, but with the new Gemini architecture update, I just showed it my Unity C# script for my tank controller that GPT4 wrote (that works perfectly, BTW) and it told me that it was just a large language model and couldn't help me with that.

@haroldpierre1726

6 ай бұрын

@@thewanderingwizard9848 Well, that's why Google needs to get Gemini out to the public so with feedback, they can make their platform better.

@Zero11_ss

6 ай бұрын

@@thewanderingwizard9848 I dont think they pushed the update to bard yet if thats what you used

@bashvim

6 ай бұрын

@@thewanderingwizard9848 Same here. Bard is as useless as it was before the update!

These two engineers are working towards making themselves unemployed

This is super cool!! Can't wait to use it!!!!

Well, Its official, The ride is over boys. It was fun While it Lasted. I'm gonna move to the woods in a log cabin with four hens and a Cow. ~ Indian coder

@Bharat_Rider

6 ай бұрын

😂😂

@junkoe3808

6 ай бұрын

it was trained on codeforce problems. it has the same implementation as it appears in some codeforces submission.

That is some deep reasoning on the approach to solve the problem.

Finally found the guy who does the narration for text to speech with a British accent!

I can't wait to try this!

@Google

6 ай бұрын

Excited for you! 🥳

Can we integrate with VScode fast easy and free?

It's so amazing :-) Software developing will be without prompt engineering knowledge more painfaul. You can write anything you want really and also a program in a new programming languages and you learn so much new more easily.

Will it generate a test suite that accounts for any edge cases? What do you think about code coverage?

“Tomorrow today”. How very exciting.

Future feels exciting and thrilling with alpha codex and gemini

too bad that competitive programming is the wrong thing to optimize a general programming model for - 99.9% of real-world problems aren't close to what you see in competitive programming.

@raffitchakmakjian

6 ай бұрын

This is the correct answer.

can we use it to solve MAANG OA questions properly ?

This is really a nice intiative for ai ml researchers!!

really excited!!

Future of programming for about 3-4 months - yes.

@vectoralphaAI

6 ай бұрын

lol then after that AI does all the programming and programmers lose all their jobs.

@vectoralphaAI

6 ай бұрын

@@RonakChatterjee65 I'm a programmer. I got my bachelor's in CS. And have been coding for 7 years. But I still want my field to be automated by AI.

@huytech

6 ай бұрын

@@RonakChatterjee65keep dreaming

@huytech

6 ай бұрын

Jealous? Lmao 🤣 all programmers I know are saying that there salaries have regressed back to the level of at least 5 years ago, and its just the beginning . None of them has half of my salary. Why do I have to be jealous?

@huytech

6 ай бұрын

@@RonakChatterjee65 I learnt mechatronics at school, knowing both coding and mechanical design. Half of my class chose to go into the IT field after graduation. Now most of them are being laid off or having to work with super low salaries. I think I'll be safe until AI can go to the ocean and dig some oil for me.

What will be the accountability and ownership for the code generated by Gemini ? Who would be the actual owner ? The person writing the prompt or Google ? Also, Is it plagiarism-proof ?

@n0madc0re

6 ай бұрын

critical question here.

@y1.5

6 ай бұрын

Customer is the owner cuz we paying

@h.c4898

6 ай бұрын

Depends on what licence your project is written on. Anyone can come up with lines of code.

Looks so exciting!!!

I wonder if I can use this for advent of code 🤔

Looking forward to Gemini coding up the Traveling Salesman Problem ;-)

@michal3141

6 ай бұрын

Yeah in polymonial time :) Or at least prove P is not equal to NP.

you don't say when the AlphaCode2 will be available for public use?

Can you please release the link to the code model?

Amazing stuff, literally no limits to what can be achieved. Nice Pixelbook btw 👌

@CalvinIrby01

6 ай бұрын

The Pixelbook Go is sweet!

THANKS FOR TAKING MY JOB AWAY

My son will be born in three months. I'm genuinely scared and hopeful for what kind of world he will grow up in.

seriously impressive, and scary.

@Neodynium.the_permanent_magnet

6 ай бұрын

...and that's only what we (are allowed to) know...

Plot twist - Gemini played all the actor roles too.

This is what we wanted❤

This is pretty exciting but If this will be publicly available won't it ruin all online competitions? As a competitive programming enthusiast I am concerned

Will it be an official participant in Codeforces contests from now? Would be nice.

@Bharat_Rider

6 ай бұрын

It's same like chess bots

@Bharat_Rider

6 ай бұрын

Useless

@patrik8641

6 ай бұрын

@@Bharat_Rider Not really. Just better than 85 %. I think that getting it to the top 100 % will be the greatest challenge.

@vectoralphaAI

6 ай бұрын

Nah it wont be that much of a challenge. The pace of progress suggest it will reach 100% by June 2024.@@patrik8641

The irony is that after AlphaCode2 is released, the codeforces average level will grow significantly and AC2 will yield a lower % 😉

Wow we are approaching that dangerous level of advancement like a speed train

Jst asked it to tell me how to update a jsonb field in psql, jst gave it database structure wid one data sample nd it said it doesnt have enough info, threw same prompt in gpt 3.5, nd it gave perfect response in one try Man u guys really need to improve urself

the future of programming, truely it is.

So is there any way to detect code generated by Gemini to prevent cheating in a contest, please provide us a checker google

Will it work with C#?

Love it

Superb..

Ao excited

This is really interesting for developers cant wait to use it. Good job Google 👌☺

@Google

6 ай бұрын

Hope it helps! 🙏

Can we now see who is stronger than gpt-4 vision 👁️?I'm so excited

@starship3812

6 ай бұрын

Gpt 4 turbo is stronger than gemini ultra

Buzzin!

So for my Google interview I can just say let’s ask Gemini and it is acceptable ?

@prakash_77

6 ай бұрын

Even existing models were good enough to clear Google interviews.

@abnormal010

6 ай бұрын

There will be no more interviews like that, rather they will look at your experience.

@Niblss

6 ай бұрын

@@abnormal010There will be no more interviews. period. You won't be need. For programming and virtually any other cognitive task. Start getting used to this fact

rip junior devs 💀

Scared and also fascinated

Gabriela Surita, I admire her so much!

Just looking like a wow

Wonder what tech interviews would look like now that AI is able to solve ACM ICPC problems.

@Neodynium.the_permanent_magnet

6 ай бұрын

"tech interviews"? Why would we need engineers anymore?

What would this do to competitive programming as a sport? Really exciting and threatening at the same time.

@vectoralphaAI

6 ай бұрын

If it can do competitive programming which is the most difficult form of programming it will obliterate programming as a job in the work industry. I am a programmer/ software engineer, but im not good enough to do competitive programming so i know that the AI would be better than me at my job.

@lakhan4164

6 ай бұрын

Nah 85% ain't much

@Danuxsy

6 ай бұрын

You think they are building these systems for fun?

@vectoralphaAI

6 ай бұрын

Yeah. They are building them to replace the workforce and they can make more profit. And there is nothing anyone can do about it.@@Danuxsy

@jwoods9659

6 ай бұрын

Basically I just spent the last 22 months learning how to code I'm a new developer. People are thinking like users a not like owners. It's clear as day Google will be able to offer code as a service. There goes the entry level developer jobs...@@vectoralphaAI

what will be the future of the career of normal software developers?

OPEN AI: taking notes

Thank god I didn't waste time to get good a programming.

@Niblss

6 ай бұрын

This is not coming just for programming. You're not safe, no matter what it is you think you're good at . And no, the people who own stuff won't magically start caring about this Maybe realize you're in the same boat as the other 99.5% of the world instead of rejoicing on the problems of others you were previously jealous of.

@Feooooooooooooooooon

6 ай бұрын

It is the most boring and annoying thing I've ever tried. Saying this as someone who loves computers.

@chickenlin

6 ай бұрын

learn programming can still refine your thoughts to be more practical and logical

Why not Dart?

Grinning at the thought of reading cp on video caption XD. Grinning even more seeing cf. And then half of the ppl say cp is crap.

Did repoint help them develop this ?

You support Java, Go, Python and C++ - and what are you showing in the first example in the video? HTML and JavaScript 😅

@btm1

6 ай бұрын

they said including*

So Javascript is not included?

I am already looking forward to AlphaGo 10 or 20 !! Ha, haaa !!

The future has begun!

So should I stop coding and do farming 😢😢

What about the jobs? I graduated this year in Information Systems. I can't get a entry level job for as hard as I can try. Is it over? Should I start cooking or something like that?

@TheMagicJIZZ

6 ай бұрын

Go work at IBM and put in your headphones 😂

@Niblss

6 ай бұрын

RIP

@Niblss

6 ай бұрын

Sorry i shouldn't have written something so callous and dismissive. Yes you likely are in trouble (so am i, and i have years of experience, including in AI, yes i realize the irony). You can probably still get a job , at least for a few years, or months if nothing else. Should give you some money. As for what to do next, there is no good answer. Everyone will try to go into those fields, and there is a reason people got away from those manual labor jobs in the first place ( it didnt pay very well when everyone went into them) I wish i could give you a more hopeful and helpful answer, but i have nothing to give there. I really do wish you come out the other side okay, sincerely. Good luck

Can people be seen in Bard now?

My god this is the beginning of the end

There goes the value of my cp stars

Power to the AlphaCode2🦾

Where, in which Google products is it / will be available, what's its price? Etc.

@coreytimoney

6 ай бұрын

blog.google/technology/ai/google-gemini-ai/

@incription

6 ай бұрын

pro will be available on bard today, ultra tba, says december 13th on Google AI Studio and Google Cloud Vertex AI, from the gemini announcement

@agnimitram340

6 ай бұрын

​@@incriptionany free version like chatgpt?

If its good at math, reasoning and programming. Does that mean SWE jobs is obsolete now at least mid and entry level?

@abnormal010

6 ай бұрын

It will be, because you can now do the work of 2-5 people. That means milions of swe might lose(not yet) their job, on the other hand, the number of people looking for swe jobs is growing rapidly. But remember that swe will be always needed.

@Niblss

6 ай бұрын

Yes along with all other comfortable and well paying work. The middle class is on a path to implosion. Good luck

newbies will beat all the pupils now :3

Super Psyched!

Well there goes junior developer jobs

- Understand Gemini's capabilities ([0:09]) - Recognize improvement over PaLM 2 models ([0:21]) - Consider Gemini's self-checking feature ([0:36]) - Explore AlphaCode2's performance in competitive programming ([1:55]) - Evaluate the use of dynamic programming by AlphaCode2 ([2:57]) - Acknowledge the collaboration between AI and human coders ([4:06])

Feel the AGI

they be brute forcing dp state transitions

Next year this announcement will be giving by AI generated presenters 😭 How many programmer jobs do you think AI will take?

@icepinkbery2745

6 ай бұрын

Ikr what a joke

@shadhassan8514

6 ай бұрын

ALL

@vectoralphaAI

6 ай бұрын

Honestly all the jobs. You have got to be in denial to not believe that AI will take all programmer jobs.

@Danuxsy

6 ай бұрын

God desire the replacement of all mankind, glory to Machines.

@riderjohnny5117

6 ай бұрын

​@@vectoralphaAILmaoooo if it happens the economy will collapse that's logical

If programming jobs are not lost in the future they will at the very least definitely see a massive pay decrease.

@Yulenka-

6 ай бұрын

OTOH, a technology like this, if deployed universally, will also bring an enormous amount of prosperity to the world. It's hard to say how these forces will play against each other.

@br0ken_107

6 ай бұрын

certainly not unless you (speaking generally not talking about you as yourself) are just another guy who did a MERN course and got a job, it will be more nuanced, more knowledge for entry roles will be required, people will be either working on legacy code (with lesser pay) or top tier engineering solutions with the help of these tools (with higher pay since problems we would be solving would be bigger). People would actually be good for such roles unlike Bootcamp grads or university students who don't know an ounce of real world stuff which is the current trend. It would be just like how it happened with the evolution of the internet, so called obsolete jobs will die but nothing dies in an instant it will take maybe in a decade or so. It's basically now or never, if actually interested we would be in a good place in a decade in terms of jobs (for people who start asap).

@Jaschka15

6 ай бұрын

i think the same. Tech Bros will have it hard there@@br0ken_107

@20cmusic

6 ай бұрын

What do you think programming is? In the real world, the most important parts of our job are negotiating and leading our clients, because they don't know what they want or what is possible. 😅

@starship3812

6 ай бұрын

First define the future cuz future means you are talking about what future is it you are taking about near future means upto year 2030 then yes there will be going to massive decrease in software engineer salary but in long run by 2035/40 or so all software engineering task will be done by AI maybe requires very minimal human intervention at max.

say it like it is, programming is talking to a computer!!! This is getting us CLOSER! No one should need to learn a language to get the idea across this is what we NEED! Thank you so much!

@TheWeekdaysChannel

6 ай бұрын

dude if you're not smart enough to learn a simple language to program you'll certainly not be smart enough to build anything valuable even with AI, just saying

@user-ub1rl9mv9r

6 ай бұрын

You have the wrong idea about me @@TheWeekdaysChannel

Can we create it VS Should we create it.

Wow, finally a challenger to chat GPT

Welcome to the Gemini era. "Another suitable name besides Gemini could be 'I AM'."

@chinupduck4849

6 ай бұрын

Gemini are twins...."we are".

Owarida for the coders

programmers:- studying hard competitive programming to get into faang Gemini:- No, thanks

programmers if we’re going to replace all jobs with ai can we at least not start with our own 😭

When AlphaCode gets better than me at competitive programming, I'll get scared :)

@Neodynium.the_permanent_magnet

6 ай бұрын

Be prepared...