Useful Bushcraft/Camping Knot: The Tarp Button Set

This is a discussion about how to create tie out points on a tarp that lacks tie outs, only has grommets, or that has been damaged. I discuss options such as tarp clips, but focus on how to create a tie out button. I pre-tie and keep a specific knot set in my gear to be able to rapidly overcome things like damaged grommets or torn tie outs and I show you how to tie what I call "The Button Set". This is a good bushcraft or camping knot set as it is mostly appropriate for tarp shelter.
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  • @kornelcseri5115
    @kornelcseri511511 ай бұрын

    About fastener clips, they are used in sealing on the open sea and when the storm damaged the sails so they jury-rig with those compression fastener clips. They can withstand over and about a category 4 storm on the sea.

  • @dadgad68
    @dadgad685 жыл бұрын

    I use loops for prusik knots. I make tieouts with a penny and just the loop with a larkshead knot. Works great. Great video thanks.

  • @richardbekking
    @richardbekking Жыл бұрын

    Nice demonstration! I've been experimenting with this too. My solution was to use a canadian jam knot (also called an arbor knot) on the other end instead of the noose. I find these easier to undo.

  • @phdyoutubedegree1939
    @phdyoutubedegree19393 жыл бұрын

    This and the tarp buddy and you will be ready for anything.👍

  • @msilverhammer
    @msilverhammer8 жыл бұрын

    Wow...very good information, and excellent demonstration! I was in the Navy, so I can tie many knots, that I amaze, and amuse knot neophytes with at parties and family gatherings, but I never really took any time to tie a noose. Some of my favorites are the jury rig masthead knot, the sheep shank, the Tom Foolery knot, and of course the bowline, and its exciting cousin the tug boat bowline that is tied in a dramatic whipping or rotating like manner. I also like the animated knots website, and will probably educate myself at that site by learning some new knots. Happy 4th of July!

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    8 жыл бұрын

    Happy Independence Day to you too!

  • @robbiemiller5253
    @robbiemiller52536 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Taking my 6 year old out camping and hiking this spring and summer. We will make this together to get ready for our trips.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nothing makes me happier than to hear a dad saying he's taking his kid(s) out to experience nature. I know "experience nature" is about the most cliche' saying I could possibly choose, but it's hard to say it any other way. Good on you! And good wishes for your offspring learning the true reality of the gift we've been given of this beautiful planet!

  • @susan319
    @susan3197 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Idea, I am just getting into backpacking I will put this in my problem solving note pad I will carry with me. I'm getting to old to remember these tricks just when I need them.

  • @ogrebloodchief

    @ogrebloodchief

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Happens to me all the time too. Haha

  • @coiledironyfilms-denniseva634
    @coiledironyfilms-denniseva6348 жыл бұрын

    I really liked this button knot set and will be making some. I like the bankline use too. I've watch almost all of your posted videos and have learned a lot. I'm familiar with the long burn fire method of FarNorth Bushcraft. I like that method and yours as well. It's good to know two methods in the event of differing circumstances. I look forward to future videos.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the kind words! I appreciate it. .. When Winter comes again, I'm going to do a short series on long burn fire lays. That Scandinavian long log fire that Far North Bushcraft and Survival does is awesome. I have done a variation of that a few times and as long as you have a spot protected from the wind, that will keep you warm for hours. .. Another channel to check out for winter survival stuff is Survival Russia. He has a lot of big log fire videos and some of them are ingenious.

  • @reidycruise
    @reidycruise6 жыл бұрын

    Very cool 😎 I’ve used scrunched up news paper and cable ties then looped the cord through the tie lol

  • @thankmelater1254
    @thankmelater12543 жыл бұрын

    Alright 2nd video watched, 2nd perfect presentation. Since you have no obnoxious intros & outros I can play your videos as I'm snoozing as well, and maybe get more of it into the noggin!

  • @justpassingthrough76
    @justpassingthrough765 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this video and pleased to inform you that you have a new Subscriber. 🇬🇧

  • @marvinostman522
    @marvinostman5226 жыл бұрын

    I liked your idea of having some small transition ropes. I used something similar in my box of ropes for tying down loads. Might I suggest a little addition to you set up. If you add an "Irish Button" to the tail of the "hangman's noose", now you have a self-contained unit so you don't have to look for or make a button. I can't take credit for the idea, I saw it in book on knots. We have to share the knowledge. Thanks

  • @MrSteve280

    @MrSteve280

    4 жыл бұрын

    smart idea

  • @phdyoutubedegree1939

    @phdyoutubedegree1939

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would depend on how close to the edge of the tarp you are putting it.

  • @marvinostman522

    @marvinostman522

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@phdyoutubedegree1939 Good point. Not too many things work in every application. Something to think about solving. You got me thinking. Thanks

  • @marvinostman522

    @marvinostman522

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@phdyoutubedegree1939 I just thought of something that might work in further from the edge. Pull some of the tarp through your fist making a tail long enough to fold over and slip it through the loop and put the button through the fold. Since it up and it should enough tention since too much tention will tear your tarp.

  • @snafutimes6883
    @snafutimes68832 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @SK-qc6fb
    @SK-qc6fb4 жыл бұрын

    Double Fisherman's Sling....look at this knot on Grog. My new fav knot...will do the same as this, with many different uses, water bottle, sleeping bag, so on and so forth.

  • @OregonMikeH
    @OregonMikeH7 жыл бұрын

    Wow, New about using buttons, knew those knots, but would never have put the concept together or I would have done so years ago. I'm on board as a new Sub from this, Great Job!

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad this was a useful video! Thanks for watching and thanks for subing! I appreciate it!

  • @delb0y1967
    @delb0y19675 жыл бұрын

    That was ace, thank you :)

  • @jonathannilberg8689
    @jonathannilberg86892 жыл бұрын

    Great idea and great video! Very helpful.

  • @tedmay6062
    @tedmay60625 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @denofearthundertheeverlast5138
    @denofearthundertheeverlast51386 жыл бұрын

    cant that messed up grommet be hammered gently back into shape? maybe by using a similar diameter pipe end

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sure. It could probably be repaired. It's no guarantee that you'd find a piece of pipe wherever you happen to be when a grommet gets messed up like that, though.

  • @davidjoe8455
    @davidjoe84555 жыл бұрын

    Great. I've been wondering how people making this head hanging knot :) . Thank you.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    5 жыл бұрын

    That end of this knot set is useful for a lot of things and happens to be the strongest cinching knot one can tie. It's unfortunate that history makes it controversial and therefore requires caution on the users part about where and when to deploy it.

  • @CFWaittoleave
    @CFWaittoleave5 жыл бұрын

    good info. I will be making some of these for the next tie down. tyvm

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad this was useful for you! Thanks for watching!

  • @phantomxter
    @phantomxter8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the useful info

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @benthere8051
    @benthere80516 жыл бұрын

    A tight line hitch or a grip hitch works just as well and is much easier to tie. Otherwise I like your idea very much.

  • @refaiabdeen5943
    @refaiabdeen59435 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Mate!

  • @broadwayFan28
    @broadwayFan286 жыл бұрын

    Why not a taut line hitch for this?

  • @JohnGreen_US

    @JohnGreen_US

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can use any adjustable and fixed loop knots you want and feel comfortable tying. It's the concept that's important ... pre-made tools ready to deploy quickly. An adjustable loop on one side to cinch down onto whatever knob you create, and a fixed loop on the other side ready to place a stake thru or ready to attach a longer line to, if needed. For example, you can use a Canadian Jam knot/loop on the cinching side, and a Zeppelin Loop on the other. For my lightweight emergency hiking kit, I include an SOL Heat Sheet (which has no pre-made attachment points), about 6 pennies which are immediately ready to form small knobs, and bankline cut to full guyline lengths with Canadian Jam knots/loops pre-tied to one end on each. I can then tie a Taut-line friction hitch, or any other rope-grab friction hitch, onto the other ends to adjust the guyline lengths.

  • @ScorpionRegent
    @ScorpionRegent7 жыл бұрын

    Nice to have something ready rigged that you use all the time, that said I would just tie off the button with a marlinespike hitch to whatever line I'm using. The marlinspike hitch can be tied in seconds and in the bight of a line so you have a second tie off point in case rigging for high winds. I can see making buttons by cutting cross sections of tree branch. Thanks for the video.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @RollingEasy
    @RollingEasy5 жыл бұрын

    Hangman's knot on one end and a Mooring knot on the other.... That will allow slide up and back tensioning to any tie down point.

  • @ogrebloodchief
    @ogrebloodchief3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @UnderMan
    @UnderMan5 жыл бұрын

    A quick suggestion. Use a stone to wrap the tarp around and secure with the guy rope.

  • @michaelreed649
    @michaelreed6498 жыл бұрын

    Very handy

  • @dadaUnts
    @dadaUnts6 жыл бұрын

    Hi, why not a Noose knot-Figure 8 knot combo (which I prefer), or a Noose knot-Double half hitch combo; the Noose knot-bowline might not be as sturdy, lol... btw I do have those clips you mentioned but I use them to hold up the Tarps as drapes for privacy when I use my pop-up Canopy. Great prep work! I plan on making a set of 6!

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    6 жыл бұрын

    There's no reason a figure 8 won't work, but the double half hitch could get loose on its own in your gear. A couple of half hitches will stay put with some tension, but just rolled up in your gear, they won't remain tied. .. Thanks for watching!

  • @dadaUnts

    @dadaUnts

    6 жыл бұрын

    I continue to learn from other people. When I did mention the double half hitch; I meant that to be done on site while the figure 8 knot is already pre-made and on the tarp. So I guess I'm saying that I would have the figure 8 on the tarp, and then the dbl hh on the working end of the cord.

  • @mikedebell2242
    @mikedebell22427 жыл бұрын

    Good idea.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @timothythomas1345
    @timothythomas13457 жыл бұрын

    There is always the TARP BUDDY .

  • @peteswright
    @peteswright7 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Just subscribed! I've been wanting to make a porch for my Quechua 2 man tent and really don't want to use the grommets or add grommets to my new tarp. Am thinking of using buttons using small round pebbles or these commercial ones. BUT! If i leave them permanently attached, how much stress, if any do they apply on the tarp? Will the tarp last better? Thanks in advance.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    As with all things, the wear at a stress point will depend on how much stress. If you experience a lot of wind and bad weather, a button tie out spot might get quite a lot of wear. If the weather is good and you don't tie off incredibly tightly every time, such a spot on a tarp might not get much wear at all. I think if it were me, I'd keep what I need to make buttons with the guy lines and pegs and just make new buttons every time I pitch the tarp, but you might do just fine leaving them in the exact same place for several outings.

  • @peteswright

    @peteswright

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for that. I hear so many stories of tarps grommets being ripped out etc, I'm trying to find the least damaging way to secure fastening points at various, "needed points" as situations change. When I find a situation that works for a set up, I can leave alone for the next outing. Suck it and see might be my approach, lol. The tarp i'm using is exactly the same as in your vid. Not gonna break the bank choose what!

  • @robertwilson4743

    @robertwilson4743

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nopete wright

  • @franknz1797
    @franknz17977 жыл бұрын

    Great knot thanks

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @timothythomas1345
    @timothythomas13457 жыл бұрын

    I have the Yukon outfitter bug out bag . I was Blessed to find it at a thrift store for $9.50 .

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    Good find. Woot advertises that in my email a couple of times a month for 8 or 10 times that much.

  • @timothythomas1345

    @timothythomas1345

    7 жыл бұрын

    The funny thing is I had been wanting a go bag in that line or style . Something modular with molle etc . And had done a lot of window shopping although really hard for me to justify spend near or over 100 dollars on a bag .I have to say the LORD always provides . It happens all the time . I will have a need or a thought of something and the next thing I now there it is free or cheap . I needed and or wanted a large steel cabinet as I live in a 1 bedroom apt and can't get to tools easy . Literally one night out of the blue . While driving home after going to the store for something or other . I got the impulse to turn down a couple streets before getting home on trash night . In my head I was thinking maybe Ill find a Cabinet . I was 3 blocks from my house and had turned down the second street . When t out of the blue the perfect cabinet for tools . It is an older industrial cabinet . So heavy and large I couldn't fit it into the Jeep cherokee or on top the jeeps roof rack . Thank God it was 2 blocks from my apt . I drove home grabbed a dolly and hand trucked it home . Taking rest stops as needed . .The cabinet measures 38 in high 27 inches wide 29.5 inches deep . . It sets a little higher now that I welded a 4 wheel dolly so as it would roll . There are 3 huge draws that can hold hundreds of LBS each . And even with a lot of weight they open with ease and shut with the same ease . Each Draw imeasure 9 in high 24.5 wide and 26.5 deep or front to back . When I first went to get thing or put things in it . I STILL CAN'T GET USED TO DRAWS THAT SEEM TO GO ON AND ON WHEN OPENING THEM . Any way this thing has made my life way more efficient . Making it possible to find things and access things quicker . I used to put off project because I didn't feel like going though the stress of finding the tools . I give God the Praise and glory . Hope the story doesn't bore you . God Bless Tim in FL

  • @OleSoldier4US
    @OleSoldier4US7 жыл бұрын

    Duh, what is bank line?

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tarred Nylon Twine. It's sold by the pound usually. #36 bank line is about 350lb test (depending on manufacturer... some of it has an even higher tensile strength) and a 1lb roll comes out pretty close to 475 feet of twine. #6 bank line is a little over 3000 feet per pound and it's usually about 50lb test. Those are the two most popular gauges but it comes in many others. I hope that helps!

  • @blaskotron
    @blaskotron6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe just use a slipknot instead of that long to tie noose.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    6 жыл бұрын

    A slipknot won't stay tied loose in your gear. The point to this is to have something pre-tied, ready to go without having to exert any effort or require any dexterity to deploy immediately.

  • @PBS-nm1uu
    @PBS-nm1uu7 жыл бұрын

    where do u get the bank line to buy

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    7 жыл бұрын

    There is a link in the description doe #36 bank line on amazon. I think that one is Sgt Knots. Catahoula is good stuff, too but a little more expensive. Also, slefrelianceoutfitters sells good tarred twine in several sizes. I hope that helps!

  • @TheTinkerinMan
    @TheTinkerinMan6 жыл бұрын

    Good concept, but why not a slip knot with a stopper knot, like a figure 8 or a basic overhand knot to keep the tag end from pulling through, rather than a noose? A much easier and faster knot to tie, takes less practice to master, and uses less cordage to tie. If it’s easier to do, a person is more likely to do it. Such is human nature unfortunately. I’m not trying to troll, just genuinely curious if there is an advantage over a basic slip knot.

  • @betweenfiveandseven

    @betweenfiveandseven

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes. The advantage is in keeping a couple tied ahead of time. Neither a noose nor a bowline will come undone or get tangled with other stuff in your gear. Both are permanent until you deliberately untie them.

  • @TheTinkerinMan

    @TheTinkerinMan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Essential Gear & Useful Skills Good point on the noose being more permanent. You could do the same and pre-tie a slip knot, but I can see where there could be a chance that it could snag and pull out while pulling it out of your emergency shelter kit when time can be critical. Good on you for replying to a comment on a year and a half old video. I’m off work till Jan. 2nd. I’ll have to check out some of your other vids. Subbed.

  • @user-qk5td7zk2g
    @user-qk5td7zk2g3 жыл бұрын

    Н

  • @newtck
    @newtck5 жыл бұрын

    I think... A Canadian jam knot. Would have been sufficient.