URALIC: NORTHERN SAMI, FINNISH, & HUNGARIAN
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How to say "to live" in these three languages: Northern Sami: "eallit" Finnish: "elää" Hungarian: "élni" These words are quite similar.
@970ronaldo
5 ай бұрын
far from similar, sorry... please learn languages properly
@user-cn7ws5wr4e
5 ай бұрын
Those words are similar enough to see the shared origin, but diffrent enough that I as a Finn couldn’t recognize those words randomly from a text and be ” oh that means to live”
@970ronaldo
4 ай бұрын
@pstkow sorry but I am native hungarian, every normal hungarian is laughing of these "similarities"
@kuradi605
4 ай бұрын
estonian has> ela
@krisztianwirsz3612
3 ай бұрын
@@970ronaldo bullshit. Those who actually studied linguistics would never question the similarities.
Estonian (Eesti keel): 1- Üks 2 - Kaks 3 - Kolm 4 - Neli 5 - Viis 6 - Kuus 7 - Seitse 8 - Kaheksa 9 - Üheksa 10 - Kümme Kõik inimesed on sündinud vabad ja võrdsed väärikuse ja õigustega. Nad on varustatud mõistuse ja südametunnistusega ning peaksid tegutsema üksteise suhtes vaimus ja vendluses. Udmurt (Удмурт кыл): 1 - одӥг 2 - кык 3 - куинь 4 - ньыль 5 - вить 6 - куать 7- сизьым 8 - тямыс 9 - укмыс 10 - дас Вордскем но огкадь правоез вань адямиос асьсэды эркын но, данын. Эшъяськон кусыпъёссэс но ог-огзы доры визь но, сюлэм но мылкыд кулэ, сое лэсьты наделять. Mari (Марий йылме): 1 - шкетын 2 - кокыт 3 - кум 4 - нылыт 5 - вич 6 - куд 7 - шымыт 8 - кандаш 9 - индеш 10 - лу Кеч-могай еҥат эрык деч посна да иктӧр шочеш. Нуно уш-акылым, совесть дене кылдалтыныт, да братствын шӱлышыжлан келшен илышаш улыт. Hill Mari (Кырык мары йӹлмӹ): 1 - иктӹ 2 - кокты 3 - кум 4 - нылыт 5 - вӹц 6 - кудыт 7 - шӹмӹт 8 - кӓндӓкш 9 - ӹндекшӹ 10 - лу Шачмы дӓ цилӓ эдемӹнок прававлӓштӹ дӓ ӹшке достоинствыжым ирӹкӓн. Ынгылымашым пуаш дӓ нӹнӹ шӱлӹшӹштӹ доно вӓш кӹл ылмыжым дӓ совестьлӓн братствын действыяш.
@aitokoojii1462
Жыл бұрын
Apart from 10, the Hill Mari numbers sound and look a lot like Finnish. Iktÿ, kokty, kum, nylyt, vÿts, kudyt, shÿmÿt, kändäksh, ÿndekshÿ.
@prismoid00
Жыл бұрын
The auto translation Google is trying to do into English is hilarious
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
@@aitokoojii1462 yes, but the Hill maari is far away from finnish generally. It is possibly barely closer to hungarian but I don't speak hungarian. So those will have to answer about that
@aitokoojii1462
Жыл бұрын
@@KibyNykraft Actually, Finnish is Baltic Finnic and Mari languages are Volga Finnic and Hungarian is Ugric along with Mansi and Hanti.
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
@@aitokoojii1462 Yes. I've heard rural Mansi spoken twice from 2 different TV documentaries. Whereas the younger were heavily affected by russian in their intonation, the elder spoke with more genuine accent. The sound of it had some similarities to the sämi more than to the finnish, but the words were mostly impossible to catch.
Here in Brazil, we have a finnish city in the Rio de Janeiro state. Mina rakastan sinua Suomi. Eu te amo Finlândia. I love you Finland.
@mikahamari6420
Жыл бұрын
Terveisiä Brasiliaan, Mara, kaikkea hyvää teille!
@mcbatetens
Жыл бұрын
Azidea maanu. ❤
@aleksanderh.5407
Жыл бұрын
Vai Brasil :)
Why are some Hungarians persuaded they're Turkic ?
@illicitnarcotics
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea
@TNOfan4093
Жыл бұрын
@Olaf Were the Huns even Turkic ?
@ElHeraldoHispano
Жыл бұрын
@@TNOfan4093 Old nomadic confederations such as the Xiongnu, the Huns or the Hephthalites were all multiethnic. We cannot reduce them to a single ethnic group. Amongst them there were Turkic, Uralic and Indo-European tribes. The Magyars (Hungarians) were Uralic peoples who probably belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance along with the Bulgars (whose modern descendants are the Chuvash, as the previous comment mentioned), hence Hungarians feel so close to Turks.
@TNOfan4093
Жыл бұрын
@@ElHeraldoHispano OK !
@mikahamari6420
Жыл бұрын
Look at their behaviour in the question of Nato ratification. Hungarians speak Uralic language with Turkic mentality, and that leads to rotten combination as Orban being main speaker with his snake tongue. That language is Tugric. (But not all Hungarians, I am sorry for all good and honest people there.)
The Hungarian voice never disappoints. He knows what he's doing, especially in former videos where he read some Bible verses. And I love how diverse the Finno-Ugric family actually is. It may not be the most famous language family in comparison to Indo-European for example (which almost everyone in this world know at least one word from its languages), but they are as ancient as well and preserve many things that our ancestors in the distant past may have been up to.
@user-hnjga8is1zr6u
4 ай бұрын
@@pstkow Ohh I'm sorry, I actually meant Uralic languages. Yeah...still they're closer to each other than many Indo-European languages. It's amazing how the lifestyle of Uralic peoples throughout history, which were closer to nature, primality and stuff compared to most Indo-Europeans, made many of them so close to their proto languages.
My favs: 1. Hungarian 2. Northern sami 3. Finnish
I know you like flags Andy, and it's a really cool detail how the colours match with the Karelian republic's flag! Great video as always
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
The sämi costumes for special occasions come in many colors depending on the town /area. But the blue and red are the most common. The same goes for the norwegian bunad but where the most commonly used now are white and black.
@kaiosousafreitastorres870
Жыл бұрын
@@KibyNykraft that's really interesting! Where are you from??
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
@@kaiosousafreitastorres870 Originally northeasternmost Scandinavia, I lived in the south of Norway for many years. On my one parental side I am 7/8 säämi and 1/8 finnish-swedish. On the other parental side, a mix of norwegian(1/4), swedish(1/4) and southwest finnish (1/2).
@kaiosousafreitastorres870
Жыл бұрын
@@KibyNykraft Nice, that's really cool.
Can you do the Visayan languages (Cebuano, Hiligaynon, and Waray)?
And compare the languages of the Khanty and Mansi with the Hungarian.
Should do the Old English dialects, would love to hear Northumbrian.
Nice video 😍😍💪
In southern sámi: 1 - akte 2 - göökte 3 - golme 4 - njieljie 5 - vijhte 6 - govhte 7 - tjijhtjie 8 - gaektsie 9 - uktsie 10 - luhkie
Hey Andy, could you pay attention to the Nilo-Saharan languages? I would really like to hear the Tebu languages, there is very little material on them and convenient good isoglosses on the Internet, it would be nice if you would do this! Also about the Uralic languages, one could compare Nenets, Selkup and some third non-Samoyedic Uralic language. Peace and love🖖
very cool.
Sami sounds so beautiful
Still baffles me how many people in this comment section don't understand that languages that are in the same family have immediately noticable similarities. Look at English and Polish for instance, they are both Indo-European but neither can understand the other, but they're still related. The same holds for Uralic languages, each of these is from a different subgroup, just like English and Polish are Germanic and Slavic languages, respectively.
Hi Andy! Quick question, why'd you stop making shorts? (ps: Hungarian is Uralic?!)
@kaiosousafreitastorres870
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is uralic, ugric branch of the uralic family
@illicitnarcotics
Жыл бұрын
Yes Hungarian is a Uralic language, not indo european
@ilovelanguages0124
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Will make new shorts soon! ✨✨✨
@illicitnarcotics
Жыл бұрын
@@Datsyzerberg goddamn you are pretentious
Sami sounds badass
*The sami language is the most beautiful* ♥
@PC_Simo
Жыл бұрын
I agree 😌.
@Zehraa__
Жыл бұрын
@@PC_Simo yuupp It must be protected from extinction ☺️
@PC_Simo
Жыл бұрын
@@Zehraa__ Yuupp; it must ☺️.
@eliasnjetski1146
Жыл бұрын
@@Zehraa__ I agree as a Swede. However I do like the finnish language as well, but it's rather cool to listen to and read not so beautiful like the Sami language. The Sami flag is actually really beautiful as well.
@Zehraa__
Жыл бұрын
@@eliasnjetski1146 Cool I think there are Sami people in northern Sweden? You have the chance to meet them and get to know them more closely than me 😥 yes i agree with you the finnish language is beautiful and so is Hungarian, but i am more inclined towards the sami people bcs i love their folk music and their traditional clothes. 😁♥
It would've been nice to have the English equivalents for each word at the beginning...
🙏
They must be distant relatives
Y’all say Finnish is a completely phonetic language but how come at 0:16 it sounds like she said nelijä with an i in between the L and J?
@hdahlia
6 ай бұрын
Probably some local dialect accidentally mixing in.
@benvanzon3234
Ай бұрын
I assume it's due to dialectal influence, especially one where epenthetic vowels are more common.
Finnish sounds a bit like Japanese to me while Hungarian and Sami remind me a bit of Turkish
@barnaerdelyi1
24 күн бұрын
Finnish is really similar to Janapese! :o I'm Hungarian, but I can't find any similarity with the Türkish either in terms of sound or melody. but the grammar system is similar.
Where are the Northern Sami from!?!??!?!
@jokemon9547
Жыл бұрын
Northern Finland/Sweden/Norway.
similar and yet completely different
Miss some of Samoyedic languages.
Grammatical similaites, please!
Scythian language next
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
It will be hard to find the sarmatian language anymore but maybe the skythian has some sources around 🙂🙂😃 The biggest language in european history being the least talked about today, is probably the long gone guthian/gothic. The last forms being ostrogothic in Crimea, and the elder form of Gutamål in Gotland during the 1500/1600s. Wisigoth language probably vanished or was mixed into others during the early renaissance or much before (like during the medievals).
I notice that northern sami has some slavic influence
@cooling123-vz8wb
2 ай бұрын
It actually doesn't, the ščžá letters are not inspored from any slavic languages
Unlike Finnish and Hungarian, Northern Sami has no vowel harmony.
Hmm, we are a speech island, no relations with these... 😅😅😅
@matehorvath1075
7 ай бұрын
Azt angolul úgy mondják hogy "language isolate" te tökkelütött. "Speech island", angolul se tud, de bezzeg nyelvészek helyében megszakérti, hogy a magyar egy rokontalan nyelv. Ha a nyelvtanuláshoz én is ennyire hülye lennék, én is azt hinném, hogy a magyarnak nincsenek rokonai.
@cooling123-vz8wb
2 ай бұрын
That is simply not true. Hungarian is actually closely related to languages like Khanty and Mansi, spoken in russia, more distantly related to enets, nenets, nganasan and selkup and ever more distantly related to finnish, estonian, sámi, erzya, mari and Moksha. Since all of these language share a common ancestor language, therefore are in the same language family. Called the Uralic language family. Hungarian is not a language isolate, and not related to turkish. It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
Uralic is a geographical-historical term. The correct linguistic definition in Scandinavia is "finno-ugric".
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
It depends on the country of the university. They don't classify entirely the same way. Some classify Finno-ugric as a branch of uralic. Then you have the ugric branch vs the fenno-baltic within the uralic.
@brian0902
11 ай бұрын
@@KibyNykraftwell y’a but it would in this case be finno ugric sense Sami is part of the finno permic along with the permic language, mari language , mordvin language while Hungarian is part of the ugric branch along side mansi and khanty
@Free_Russia_in_the_EU
9 ай бұрын
It's just a more general term. The Uralic languages are a family consisting of Finno-Ugric and Samoyed branches, and therefore this is not so much wrong as less accurate, since the Samoyed languages were not considered in the video after all (it's as if Slavic languages were called Balto-Slavic all the time, although this is less accurate).
@emppulina
5 ай бұрын
I was about to say that Fenno-Ugric does contain the Permic branch, and the Uralic is the whole family including Samojedic languages. The Uralic is a linguistic term - it is just the whole language family. Finno-Ugric is comparable to any wider sub-branch of Indo-European languages - like Indo-Aryan languages - it just contains almost all the languages of the family - unlike much smaller Indo-European branches. First there was split between Samoyedic and Finno-Ugric languages, then Ugric branch split away, and we had Finno-Permic branch. Afterwards Permic languages and Finno-Baltic languages split from each other. Then Sami languages ended up close to Finno-Baltic languages and both loaned a lot from each other, which is why linguistics for long time thought that Sami languages were closer to Finno-Baltic languages than traditional Permic language group. Only in last few decades have they started to consider Sami languages as part of that branch. Still in early 1990s it was thought that Sami languages were distant part of the Finno-Baltic languages.
Finnish have really loooooooooooooooooooooooong words lol
Hang on... but Viktor Orban said that Hungarians have nothing to do with their Finno-Ugric ancestry... it turns out they are Turkic...based on the fact that there are words like bazar, kishlak, sabantuy in Hungarian. But judging by political trends of Orban,I won't be surprised that soon Hungarians will "remember" all of a sudden that they are in fact "Slavic", not Turkic, or Finno-Ugric
@balaton6281
Жыл бұрын
Hi (Orban) didnt say that
@lba6859
Жыл бұрын
@@kilipaki87oritahiti do you yourself understand the mishmash word salad you wrote?
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
@@kilipaki87oritahiti Much correct but blonde hair originated in the Middle East. This is known in the science of paleo-genetics.
@Nickel_Eye
11 ай бұрын
@@kilipaki87oritahiti wow so much gibberish and disinformation in one compact comment
@noraheist
11 ай бұрын
@@lba6859 those who speak English, understand it so....
It's pronounced /hʌŋˈɡɛəriən/
@alexandergalitevstudentfvh8696
Жыл бұрын
no, it is magyarorszag.
@markusmakela9380
7 ай бұрын
yes… ország… with á, long version like uruság
@kevinszabo6936
7 ай бұрын
Correctly: /'mɒ̜ɟɒ̜r.'orsaːɡ/
@cooling123-vz8wb
2 ай бұрын
in your dialect
the Sami language got that Slavic-like orthography and even sounds a bit like one
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
It also has a few things only now in common with icelandic (an unspelled "h" in the middle of many words, and a soft "th" sound ,the ð
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
In terms of word similarity ,the slavic are slightly closer to norwegian and english than to the sämi.
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
@@kilipaki87oritahiti Agree except that the säämi is not endangered. This is a myth. There has been much good work to reinstate and increase awareness on the language. North säämi is taught in many schools. It has many thousands of speakers (roughly 9000-12000 more or less) in the most relevant area ,which has a low population density, so 9000-12000 is a decent number there). Two towns in inner Finnmark district of Norway are exclusively säämi speaking today (Kautokeino, Kárásjohkka) + one village (Máze/Masi).
@lba6859
6 ай бұрын
Difficult to speak for all slavic languages, but Russian definitely got some finno-ugric influence, particularly word formation
They seem like different languages. Extremely few similarities , like words or pronunciation. Hungarian was probably influenced by Slavic languages as well as pronunciation.
@alexandergalitevstudentfvh8696
Жыл бұрын
they are part of the same family, finnish and saami have more in common since they are finnic as opposed to hungarian which is ugric.
@brittibeeper
Жыл бұрын
Finnish and Northern Saami actually do have quite a bit of vocabulary similarities. These were just small samples
@KibyNykraft
Жыл бұрын
Säämi speakers can learn finnish quickly /easily. They understand some parts of finnish. Hungarian and finnish are quite far away from each other, but have around 80-90 common words and a very similar grammar system. The "middle forms" are deep inside Russia and close to instinct.
@cllaudiusd521
Жыл бұрын
@@KibyNykraft OK.
@DarkKhagan
10 ай бұрын
@cllaudiusd521 Old Hungarian has many borrowed words from Old Latin, Oghuric (Onogurs) Medieval German Saxon and Swabian, Old Slavic, some Jász (Alannic) and Kun (Cuman) languages. Throughout their migrations the Magyars were mostly associated with Onogurs, Sabirs, Danube Bulgars, Alans, and Khazars (Kavars-Avars). Once they settled in the Carpathian Basin the Magyars formed Magyarország (Hungary). The Slavs living in Hungary were at the northern and northeast regions: Fehér Horvátok, Fekete Horvátok (White Croats, Black Croats) and later in the southwest Adriatic region. At the end of the 6th century, the territory of the "White Croats" was in the vicinity of Kraków next to the Carpathians, and that of the "Black Croats" was to the northwest. According to the Byzantine Emperor Constantine, the Croats came from White Croatia to the area of Dalmatia provincia in the 7th century, more precisely During the reign of the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius (610-641 ce). Hungarian is a highly agglutinative language, which uses various affixes, mainly suffixes, to change the meaning of words and their grammatical function. These affixes are mostly attached according to vowel harmony. Verbs are conjugated according to definiteness, tense, mood, person and number.
I think, Finno-Ugric is not one family. Finnish and Hungarian are not similar. Finnish is similar with Estonian, Karelian, Erzya and Moksha, but Hungarian is similar with Khanty and Mansi.
@MapsCharts
Жыл бұрын
Yes it's a family but you know even Greek and Hindi are somewhat related
@leonardoschiavelli6478
Жыл бұрын
Both branches, Finnic & Ugric, belong to Uralic superfamily.
@lba6859
Жыл бұрын
It seems that Hungarians don't want to be related to Mansi.
@noraheist
11 ай бұрын
Weirdly enough we have a lot in common with Kazakh in terms of vocabulary and grammar structure as well.
@overkongen34
9 ай бұрын
It's a family. Jus like Danish and Russian are family within Indo-European. One is Germanic, the other is Slavic. But still family.
Finnish and Hungarian look so different, and it's hard to believe they come from the same origin.
@zubrifikusummuk
8 ай бұрын
ur as smart as a zombie
@markusmakela9380
7 ай бұрын
Egy szép lányt láttam a buszon. ( only ”a” is different compare to finnish lingo. (NOT any words either, but;) nothing understable but; yhe sievä neion nähny bussissa. In english one- nice girl-that saw-i in the bus. ( nyance).
this is not truth that they are same Languages group, nothing same is a big propaganda ..Hungarians are diferent...i undestand every words of hun but i cant find nothing same by finnish i speak also other slavic languages there are lot of simularity you can trust that they have sama origin ...but this one? how and why someone try to connect this ...estonian and finnish ok ..but hungarian??? pls stop this...
@Ayazidas
4 ай бұрын
You need to understand how languages evolve. The different branches of the Slavic language family split only like 1000 to 1500 years ago, whereas the Uralic languages began splitting around 4000 years ago or more. It makes complete sense that they are very different from each other after such a long time. Hindi is very different from English, but they are still related, even though that they are not mutually intelligible at all. Oh, and you can not understand the Hunnic languages, because there are no Hunnic texts left, except a couple of words and personal names. It was probably a Turkic language and Hungarian is not Turkic.
@cooling123-vz8wb
2 ай бұрын
It's about the genetic makeup of the languages. The huns and the hungarians weren't reallt the same, they have a similar name because of english's mix up. The history of the hungarians tells us they migrated from the same place, around the same time as the finns and the sámi, and their genetic makeup, the literal scaffolding of the languages, are extremely similar, and if we look at the languages' seperate evolution backwards in time, we see they come from a common ancestor. Though they split so long ago, they are very different. But I for one, when I listen to finnish and hungarian can hear that they're related. They sound similar, they have a similar morphological structure (the way order in which the consonants and vowels are allowed to fall in words) and that they both have long and short vowels and consonants in (almost) all positions. They also have vowel harmony which adds to their similar sound. I don't know why people would lie about this. Especially not when if you'd had any linguistic knowledge you would see what we mean and not call it "propaganda".. propaganda for what? It's a fact they're related, not an opinion. Google it is all I ask
hungarian seems more similiar to turcic than finnish
@TheCassieChase
9 ай бұрын
Yes, because the Turks occupied our country for 150 years..
@overkongen34
9 ай бұрын
Not grammatically. That's the Finno-Ugric language group. Iy's not about pronunciation or words. It's about structure.
@AlexAlex-zv7fc
8 ай бұрын
Not because of this. Only a part of Hungary was under Turkish occupation.@@TheCassieChase
@KisDre
8 ай бұрын
@@AlexAlex-zv7fc actually, the turkish influence was happened before that
@cooling123-vz8wb
2 ай бұрын
simply.. no. linguistically no. and if you knew anything about linguistics you'd know
I'm sorry but Hungarian sounds nothing like Sami of Finnish :'''D I find it hard to believe that it's in the same language family. It sounds much more like Turkic languages,
@Ama-hi5kn
10 ай бұрын
Being a separate branch of the Uralic languages and being alone in the middle of Europe for more than a thousand years and influenced by the surrounding slavic, romance and germanic languages has probably made it the odd man out. As an example. I am Norwegian and the Scandinavian languages descend from Old Norse. Icelandic and Faroese have been mostly remained untouched over the last thousand years, because they have been isolated from "foreign" influences. It's a shame that I can only recognize a few words and sentences in those two languages. I understand Swedish and Danish fine. But the others... I have to dig deep in my brain (what's left of it) to even grasp what they say. :/
@overkongen34
9 ай бұрын
It's not a question about how it sounds. It's a question of structure. Of course they sound different because of distance and time.
@dan74695
8 ай бұрын
@@Ama-hi5kn I'm Norwegian and I can understand Faroese pretty well. I can understand quite a bit of written Icelandic too.
@overkongen34
8 ай бұрын
Polish and Portuguese sound different as well, but they are still in the same language family (Indo-European).
@cheerful_crop_circle
7 ай бұрын
@@overkongen34Actually, Polish and Portuguese sound very similar