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  • @Knicks176
    @Knicks1764 ай бұрын

    Bo really grinded in the off season to learn English just for his support to go afk and /muteall

  • @SB-zg5ch

    @SB-zg5ch

    4 ай бұрын

    Targamas his always mute on every team. If you listen to g2 voice comms from his time there he never said a word. hes trash

  • @clappedbyben5438

    @clappedbyben5438

    4 ай бұрын

    @@SB-zg5ch i feel like his micro isnt bad being mute just makes it impossible for him to suceed in pro.

  • @SB-zg5ch

    @SB-zg5ch

    4 ай бұрын

    @@clappedbyben5438 ya it just looks like he doesn’t want to be there. I think the only reason he even has a team is because g2 carried him to a tittle once

  • @badda1107
    @badda11074 ай бұрын

    How the fck is bo more understandable than saken

  • @olliminati

    @olliminati

    4 ай бұрын

    Isn't it kind of a stereotype that French people don't want to learn other languages? In contrast, in China you are expected to excel, it's almost like: "How dare you live in Europe and don't at least somewhat speak two of the languages there? Are you trying to shame us?!"

  • @lulgrim

    @lulgrim

    4 ай бұрын

    Because shaken is fr*nch

  • @wilkinlow

    @wilkinlow

    4 ай бұрын

    I have no idea what the French are speaking

  • @tango1901

    @tango1901

    4 ай бұрын

    just french people not giving a fuck about pronouncing words correctly

  • @twostepsfromyee2099

    @twostepsfromyee2099

    4 ай бұрын

    @@wilkinlow yeah why is saken even mumbling french in the middle of some plays??

  • @Jifaru
    @Jifaru4 ай бұрын

    It's insane how much Bo has practiced his English to get to this level. The guy grinds on the rift and off

  • @hongbbl
    @hongbbl4 ай бұрын

    "Milio tank Milio tank", "ok I'll tank", *targamas proceeds to walk into melee range of enemy adc without autoing

  • @wawan3961

    @wawan3961

    4 ай бұрын

    Dude ok targa has a lot of issues, but here Bo just goes in too early. Stop blaming him for everything

  • @rqv8228

    @rqv8228

    4 ай бұрын

    i mean targa should be tanking its a fast play, legit no reason to wait or play slow@@wawan3961

  • @willmollard9078

    @willmollard9078

    4 ай бұрын

    @@wawan3961what? Watch the play again targ had plenty of time to tank.

  • @RealKelxo

    @RealKelxo

    4 ай бұрын

    @@wawan3961 did you watch the clip? I do agree Targamas gets shit on a bit too hard in general but you can't be serious on this one. At the latest you auto when Bo is LITERALLY CHARGING HIS Q WAITING FOR HIM TO TAKE AGGRO. Come on.

  • @calebgardner2687

    @calebgardner2687

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah that was rough to watch, definitely made me lose faith in targamas seeing that

  • @thesx1131
    @thesx11314 ай бұрын

    The bar is low when the adc has to ask his team to ward in the middle of a skirmish

  • @raymondandsweetheart7150
    @raymondandsweetheart71504 ай бұрын

    I would like to apologize to Bo. It was clearly cabo and Targa fault.

  • @LegendJoe3063

    @LegendJoe3063

    4 ай бұрын

    And thats why u shouldn't jump to judge right away. Now u see poor BO is stuck with 4 bot players.

  • @HappyroosterYT

    @HappyroosterYT

    4 ай бұрын

    @@LegendJoe3063 Upset is fine. Hard to do anything playing with Targamas to be honest.

  • @clarrus_

    @clarrus_

    4 ай бұрын

    ofc Bo is gonna be the scapegoat. the frenchies wont admit that their OG players are dogshit.

  • @Sofield119

    @Sofield119

    4 ай бұрын

    I agree Targa did mistakes, but on what play in this video are you blaming Cabo ? (not being sarcastic, real question)

  • @raymondandsweetheart7150

    @raymondandsweetheart7150

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Sofield119 I'm talking game 1 on gragas. Akali was at 10% hp and didn't e him w or q. Upset goes in for the kill but dies. There a few more like jax. Malphite was really bad. Like the worst so far.

  • @glittery8862
    @glittery88624 ай бұрын

    i feel like trymbi upset would actually make for such a banger botlane. trymbi is not just good but legit the perfect support to bring in here, he can take the shotcalling burden off upset & work with bo considering he played with malrang and did rly well. like please who at kcorp do we need to call.

  • @gagers78

    @gagers78

    4 ай бұрын

    I agree, I think he would provide the guidance they need

  • @quistusquist542

    @quistusquist542

    4 ай бұрын

    We need Trymbi to replace Targa

  • @yz8800

    @yz8800

    4 ай бұрын

    I think you’re onto something.

  • @johnkirk1772

    @johnkirk1772

    4 ай бұрын

    @@quistusquist542 do you? and then replace Cabo in top and Saken in mid? and then KC can win and is like every other LEC team defined solely by the question of success rather than nationality or differentiation in many sports teams who have never won a title have a lot of fans or orgs won a title decades ago, went down two leagues and retained their fans..e-sports orgs have never understood that winning isn't the only way to get fandom...if you define yourself by success, your fans will too..if you define yourself through the culture, your fans do too.. KC would likely lose more fans and brand value by winning with the wrong roster than losing with the right one

  • @josecastillo-lj7no

    @josecastillo-lj7no

    4 ай бұрын

    French fans are not gonna like it lmao. But fr any shotcalling support would be better since your jg is aggressive and needs follow up

  • @rcube0171
    @rcube01714 ай бұрын

    Nah man, Upset telling Neeko to recall. That is just babysitting on a whole other level.

  • @LegendJoe3063

    @LegendJoe3063

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂 exactly.. Upshit is washed as Foook.

  • @Milxno

    @Milxno

    4 ай бұрын

    maybe if Saken wasn't a liability he didn't need babysitting

  • @abouttime2569

    @abouttime2569

    4 ай бұрын

    Micromanaging isn't a good sign. However, micromanaging usually happens when you can't do your job properly and you need to be told what to do.

  • @tanggsyy4676

    @tanggsyy4676

    4 ай бұрын

    it was a good call idk only issue is if neeko has ego

  • @mongolitosking9739

    @mongolitosking9739

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@abouttime2569 It can be good when the guy micromanaging is Faker because this guy is an AI computer. But when you're not literally the most gifted player, it is just waste of time and energy

  • @oskargorka3332
    @oskargorka33324 ай бұрын

    Bein a shotcaller as an AD has to be the most dumb and insane to get in your team imo. Feels bad for him.

  • @naiku.

    @naiku.

    4 ай бұрын

    carzzy is shotcaller and is top 2 ad in europe upset best adc in europe and is shotcalling?

  • @oskargorka3332

    @oskargorka3332

    4 ай бұрын

    @@naiku. My brother this are exceptions. And I would want to perform them internationaly not just in LEC, and I do not think that someone as gifted as JKL or Guma are the main shotcallers of their teams. (Speakin just about their micro). My point it is much better to let your AD perform and focus on micro imo, than being a main shotcaller.

  • @HaPham-jn7jk

    @HaPham-jn7jk

    4 ай бұрын

    @@naiku.top 2 on planet mars?

  • @UnityFog

    @UnityFog

    4 ай бұрын

    @@naiku.top what? Upset is good on some champs, hes kda player. Carzzy second? What are you on xDDDD

  • @janthony5386

    @janthony5386

    4 ай бұрын

    @@oskargorka3332 Yeah, it's already stressful trying to not get fisted as an ADC but you'd have to worry about the rest of your team as a shot caller.

  • @bobon222
    @bobon2224 ай бұрын

    I think targamas should work on his communication. Its obvious that on top lck and lpl teams that the support should be vocal and makes calls with the jungler. Its tough to play when a support doesn't help with calls and macro.

  • @jacob2808

    @jacob2808

    4 ай бұрын

    Top LEC teams have a support that makes calls with the jungler, targ is a massive liability

  • @Diego-dt9yf

    @Diego-dt9yf

    4 ай бұрын

    He should unironically look to change roles, it's okay if he's more quiet or not that vocal, but he shouldn't be playing the role that requires you to be the most vocal in a team. Just play top or Adc if you don't talk that much

  • @Riptide09

    @Riptide09

    4 ай бұрын

    I like the idea of shotcalling but regardless, in pro level all players should subconciously know their role in the team comp and teamfight, it's better when they are the one who make the calls but in this case I would say Bo is more skillful and Upset is more veteran beside cabo ofc so they are the one who make the calls, what they need to improve more is not just merely ingame communication but rather their teamwork as a whole, their trust,understanding and boundaries between each other, it seems like this team doesn't have connection what so ever.

  • @cielararagi3195

    @cielararagi3195

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Diego-dt9yf The guy was playing support in G2 and winning LEC with them. I don't think role change is the problem. The problem is likely either personnal, or he simply struggles to fit in with his team.

  • @Riptide09

    @Riptide09

    4 ай бұрын

    I play ADC and I can assure you when watching pro play 60% of the time I always know what to expect from my team and enemies, how is my position or how I can deal damage, what to avoid in teamfight, the rotation etc, the other 40% is the one that makes succesful team different with other and yes that is team work and understanding eachother, a slight second of decision or a chance could make a big difference to the game, take 2022 DRX or T1 when they are down lots of gold for example

  • @justinbalderama6219
    @justinbalderama62194 ай бұрын

    Bo: It's fine, it's fine. (crying inside)

  • @Azrael_Xx_
    @Azrael_Xx_4 ай бұрын

    The funniest thing to me is that the worst players on this team are the original KC players. xDDD

  • @falinestixiaolong9691

    @falinestixiaolong9691

    4 ай бұрын

    And there's still an army of retards yapping "they're only in this roster because they're French" when these guys were dominating everything prior to entering LEC.

  • @wilkinlow

    @wilkinlow

    4 ай бұрын

    They forgot this is LEC not LFL.😂 they are simply not good enough.

  • @wedmunds

    @wedmunds

    4 ай бұрын

    What do you know, the LEC-tier players are (trying to) carrying the LFL players

  • @lukelofe2398

    @lukelofe2398

    4 ай бұрын

    ofc, LEC is like the champions league in europe, while LFL is just french league.

  • @mValerianW
    @mValerianW4 ай бұрын

    Bro Targamas has to literally not do anything and he still fails at that. He only has to show up and let Upset Micro him. He still can't. How insane is Upset though. Also imagine Trymbi would join this team..

  • @doloran-
    @doloran-4 ай бұрын

    "can milio tank first?" - Bo "Yeah yeah" - targamas *Targamas proceeds to walk into mele range without attacking* "BO IS SO BAD" - KC fans

  • @yungclout9413

    @yungclout9413

    4 ай бұрын

    And he steals the kill XD

  • @SereneMars

    @SereneMars

    4 ай бұрын

    Makes sense for Milio to tank since she is ranged and Bo is melee and bro took the kill anyway

  • @LegendJoe3063

    @LegendJoe3063

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@SereneMarsblud did understood. 😂 Ofc milio can tank but also he can attack too but targa just walk into enemy's rabge without attacking and died.

  • @drakodragon8389
    @drakodragon83894 ай бұрын

    Kinda tuff for Bo/Upset, don't know if Cabo/Saken aren't rly making calls or talking much because of inexperience or stage jitters but it's just unfortunate. Don't even need to speak on Targ, can't believe he gets to play in the LEC LOL

  • @thetiltedtomato7016

    @thetiltedtomato7016

    4 ай бұрын

    Its sad that cabo and targa are in lec for more than a year

  • @F4LCoN13

    @F4LCoN13

    4 ай бұрын

    It's hard to say inexperience for Cabo. He is 26 years old and has been playing in EU LCS since season 4.

  • @chipiegg1466

    @chipiegg1466

    4 ай бұрын

    true but tbh super low amount of calls for a toplaner is somewhat excusable, not for mid or support....@@F4LCoN13

  • @supremeleaderfokou5693

    @supremeleaderfokou5693

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot first they went 10th once second bo got 1st in winter regular and made semi finals in spring with upset. The kc 2023 players just are not ready for lec. cabochard is afk every game, shaken missed more ults than he landed and targa is more dangerous with ingage sup for his team so much that yamato had to give him lulu on ingage sup meta.

  • @arturoflash

    @arturoflash

    4 ай бұрын

    Cabo and Saken are like the last people you can talk about have inexperience or stage jitters. Cabo has gone to worlds and Saken has had multiple stints in the EU LCS. Granted VIT was trash fire but experience is still experience and he got 4 EMEA masters titles and 5 finals

  • @benreichert0
    @benreichert04 ай бұрын

    Cabo and Targamas need to go ASAP. Saken has shown enough that he MIGHT be worth keeping for now, but eh. On the plus side, Bo's english is better than I expected, I guess he just doesn't get many chances to show it on broadcast since they never win lol

  • @yungclout9413
    @yungclout94134 ай бұрын

    not a big upset fan but fucking hell hes actually just managing two people on bot

  • @choiyoungsu7249
    @choiyoungsu72494 ай бұрын

    Jeez. I feel so bad for BO now that I've heard comms.

  • @EibonAQT
    @EibonAQT4 ай бұрын

    4:03 When I was watching this moment live, I wondered why Bo is so low when he has Nami on his team. Targ fucking W'd Saken who wasn't tanking instead of the solo Jax frontline.

  • @SHIVAMKUMAR-cw7bt

    @SHIVAMKUMAR-cw7bt

    4 ай бұрын

    WTF is targa doin

  • @Derperfier
    @Derperfier4 ай бұрын

    5:15 this singular play exemplifies all of KC’s problems, Bo and Upset very clearly want to dive bot, yet Targamas doesn’t, both Bo and Upset agree that Targamas should tank, Bo wait’s as long as possible on Vi Q for Milio to auto and Targamas just doesn’t auto. Bo and Upset are trying to win, Targamas just for some reason doesn’t want to go along with their plays or something? That and useless top (not really an issue) and un-proactive mid (again, could’ve changed some outcomes but still nowhere near as big of an issue as a support who does not talk at all. I wish Bo and Upset the best of luck that they can change Targamas into a talker or for a new sup, since realistically bot lane wins games anyway and KC can win with an identity with a jgl sup partnership which currently doesn’t exist (it’s basically a jgl adc partnership which doesn’t make sense).

  • @SwayNoir
    @SwayNoir4 ай бұрын

    Bo and Upset are worth keeping, the rest are just not LEC level. Targamas holy, hes just utter trash. Its amazing the amount of people in disbelief that hes in LEC. Hes completely hard carried.

  • @Azg105

    @Azg105

    4 ай бұрын

    Caps jankos winning a title with targamas is more impressive than winning msi

  • @smokinold4360

    @smokinold4360

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Azg105 Nah, he was pretty good back then because he didn't need to communicate. Topside carried with macro and communication.

  • @eVill420

    @eVill420

    4 ай бұрын

    @@smokinold4360 his issues were just hidden because he didn't need to lane and his teammates spoke for 3 peoples' worth, going to Excel it's rather obvious he was a massive liability

  • @zora1860

    @zora1860

    4 ай бұрын

    @@smokinold4360thats why they were shit international jankos caps bb couldnt carry everything

  • @andreypavlov5187

    @andreypavlov5187

    4 ай бұрын

    Keep in mind Romain clearly stated that they were keen on keeping Targa after 2022 but Hans wanted to explicitly play with Miky. Imagine that... I am sure G2 are thanking the gods that it happened the way it did.

  • @Alejandro-xk5ej
    @Alejandro-xk5ej4 ай бұрын

    Getting trymbi is such an obvious call. Its pretty criminal that he has to sit on analyst desk while fucking targamas is playing.

  • @MafeQo

    @MafeQo

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot it's still better than saying nothing the entire game

  • @EvillAnime

    @EvillAnime

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot "Ali Ali Ali" would be a 100x improvement over this

  • @Xzibitfreek

    @Xzibitfreek

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot Trymbi got Fnatic to worlds btw

  • @TheSceptileen

    @TheSceptileen

    4 ай бұрын

    Like look at the players that are teamless, you can't tell me that replacing Cabo Saken and Targamas for Finn Abbedagge Trimby won't make this team much better

  • @lombre4453

    @lombre4453

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TheSceptileen Cabo Saken and Targa are also playing because they stood with KC for them to reach LEC. Therefore KC let them a chance to show what they have in LEC for their debut. Weither they change them or not will depend on the result and what's best.

  • @henrikhillemyr4894
    @henrikhillemyr48944 ай бұрын

    Bro they got xqc in the midlane with the pace he is speaking. cant discern a word sometimes lol, no wonder they got bad coms

  • @DALESPEER2
    @DALESPEER24 ай бұрын

    saken talks very fast and has a very heavy accent. i think that affects team comms a lot. i dont usually struggle with LEC accents. wait is saken speaking french half the time?

  • @Providenza
    @Providenza4 ай бұрын

    The big thing this comms video shows is that when Bo isn't calling, he 100% commits to whatever is called. Upset says to go in, Bo goes in, Upset says dive, Bo comes for dive. No-one else on the team is doing this, Bo calls for them to go baron, they instead start fighting Xin at the red-buff. Bo calls for them to back off because of Akali flank 4v5, they instead stay and lose the game. He looks like he's inting, but the reality is that he's just committing to what's getting called or what he calls, while others do the opposite or hesitate. It's why the LPL is so different, there if someone calls something the rest follow without question. Really hope Bo gets some people to actually help him, him with Hily and Bwipo would have been unreal.

  • @octirius2819

    @octirius2819

    4 ай бұрын

    Finally found someone who noticed this: this team is not on the same page. Targamas doesn't even speak like 90% of the time. Additionally, all three laners are passive. Cabo's weaksiding, Saken plays not to lose and just does not have good mechanics, Upset doesn't play aggro (and honestly can't when he's laning with a no comms support). Realistically, you could put any jungler in there (yes, even prime Canyon or Peanut) and they still wouldn't win.

  • @pinkocean310
    @pinkocean3104 ай бұрын

    When an ADC has to shotcall, no wonder the team is fucked.

  • @rubenenriqueschmidt4364

    @rubenenriqueschmidt4364

    4 ай бұрын

    DL won several LCS being SC Uzi reached 2 worlds finals as SC Perkz won 2 LEC, 1 MSI and reached the world final being the SC of G2 2019

  • @arturoflash

    @arturoflash

    4 ай бұрын

    @@rubenenriqueschmidt4364 Perkz had Jankos in 2019. There is no way Perkz had every shotcalling duty on that team

  • @jsnE_ca

    @jsnE_ca

    4 ай бұрын

    same with DL he was never the main caller@@arturoflash

  • @asersingularity4229

    @asersingularity4229

    4 ай бұрын

    @@rubenenriqueschmidt4364 yeah lets bring up exceptional team examples when talking about this version of KC....exceptions don't prove the rule

  • @hehexd5317

    @hehexd5317

    4 ай бұрын

    weren't people saying that crownie was bds' main shotcaller? i also believe that hans calls the shots bott at g2

  • @lins_z2
    @lins_z24 ай бұрын

    Targamas has been known for his communication issues since G2. It’s obvious that it hasn’t improve much if not at all. It is essential for a team that the support communicates and helps in macro, else the burden falls all on the jungler, which is reflected in game by how Bo looks despite of how hard he seems to be trying.

  • @ussshenzhou9027
    @ussshenzhou90274 ай бұрын

    I've been saying only Bo and Upset perform on this team and all the KC npcs were out for my blood. It's obvious now. Cabo and especially Targamas are negative gaming, Saken is just not enough.

  • @Snootz86

    @Snootz86

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah Upset has been bad for the past 2 games (terrible in fact) but prior to that he was good.. maybe Targmas rooting him in lane and losing half his hp killed him

  • @PeoplePleaser578

    @PeoplePleaser578

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Snootz86Problem is for Upset, you know he is just mentally cooked especially as a guy who doesn’t deal with losing that well, this must be fucking hell. This is worse than OG.

  • @pratikroy227

    @pratikroy227

    4 ай бұрын

    @@PeoplePleaser578 Upset is a top tier adc better than Hans by mile but if you have ever played as ADC you would know you can be Gumayusi Ruler Viper Uzi Deft Gala but if your support is Targa, Kaiser Doss you will become average at best. Support is far more crucial role than ADC because they sets it up for their ADC to deal dmg and get ahead in lane against better opposition. If Upset had Miky or Labrov as Support in his team he would have been unstoppable given his laners play as human and not AI.

  • @niclas.313

    @niclas.313

    4 ай бұрын

    @@pratikroy227 Wouldnt put Kaiser and Doss into the same category as Targamas tho. Kaiser is really good and seems to fit really well in Heretics.

  • @pratikroy227

    @pratikroy227

    4 ай бұрын

    @@niclas.313 Kaiser maybe not AS BAD as Targamas but he is average at best Doss is I feel better if we compare all 3 and he can improve.

  • @kallistei4869
    @kallistei48694 ай бұрын

    I main support, im no expert and not high elo aswell. But why is that support not saying anything/doing shotcalls. I always thought that in order for my adc to do well i have to do the other little stuff for the team (remind objective spawn, watching for enemy summs etc) so that my adc can focus on teamfights/dealing damage. Why is he just listening is he like a rookie?

  • @argar1000
    @argar10004 ай бұрын

    Man it is so hard to understand anything in these comms, especially the french accents.

  • @TheDanzau

    @TheDanzau

    4 ай бұрын

    na u just low.

  • @dkane2040

    @dkane2040

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TheDanzau nah the french are just kinda retarded

  • @madamada2936

    @madamada2936

    4 ай бұрын

    nah @@TheDanzau

  • @TimberlyPL

    @TimberlyPL

    4 ай бұрын

    yep, how can you play with fr*nch people on your team i dont understand

  • @abirmahmud2242
    @abirmahmud22424 ай бұрын

    never seen a support this quiet the hell is this shit

  • @Jolron14
    @Jolron144 ай бұрын

    Honestly Upset and Bo are top tier players. If they keep them, and swap out the rest, the team can be top 2 in spring/summer. Get Nemesis, Trymbi and Finn or smth like that.

  • @toniyakovlev4403

    @toniyakovlev4403

    4 ай бұрын

    Nemesis only wants to play with Zeus, Oner, Guma and Keria

  • @cielararagi3195

    @cielararagi3195

    4 ай бұрын

    All of KC players have insane prior experience. Anyone saying they don't deserve to be here is completely clueless. I agree they are playing very poorly rn, but it's likely either a lack of chemistry, or personal issues, or both. These can be fixed over time without problem

  • @zora1860

    @zora1860

    4 ай бұрын

    @@toniyakovlev4403Neme is anyway blacklisted in lec

  • @nicklli166

    @nicklli166

    4 ай бұрын

    truer words have never been spoken

  • @Leogos281

    @Leogos281

    4 ай бұрын

    @@cielararagi3195 Im sorry what experience? You either perform or you don't, they are just bad, their issues cannot be resolved + they are all closer to retirement than rookies. Playing 1 year in LEC in the past doesn't make you good, Cabochard, bad lane, bad mechanics, bad macro, no communication = 0 potential and doesn't belong in LEC. Saken mute as well, bad laning, bad macro but shows some promise, can be bottom-mid tier at best. Targamas, absolute animal, the guy is just wintrading at this point, you should start watching some co-streams, people are destroying him, he is a fucking meme, they rewind his plays like 10 times just to point out how absolutely terrible he is and how much he is inting his team. Now some people are gonna mention Oscar, well Oscar was shit when he joined, yea if you only look on surface which is score wise, but if you look at the games his mistakes were just, good player fucking up Pro play things that can be taught, his champ pool was good, his mechanics were one of the better ones in recent time specially for top, 1v1 laning was good, macro and target prio also, he just had to sort his laning when jungler gets to play. Look what happened when that was resolved, he became a solid asset to his team. You cannot do this with Cabo and Targamas, with Saken maaaybe you can but like I said his peak is mid tier. These things are easy to see, good players are never bad in every aspect of the game and good players very quickly show how good they are, these guys just ain't it. Im not this team's hater or something, I was hyped for Kcorp but this is reality and those 3 need to go and I hope they go cuz I want this team to succeed.

  • @skepy889
    @skepy8894 ай бұрын

    I feel bad for BO, as a guy who speaks english for like 10 years now, i really cant understand what is saken and cabo saying because of the thicc french accent, imagine how hard is it for Bo to understand them when he speaks english for like a 1,5 years now.

  • @takumifujiwara300
    @takumifujiwara3004 ай бұрын

    this just proves the point that they have cannon minion mid, melee minion top, caster minion support.

  • @nope7200
    @nope72004 ай бұрын

    the comms are so sad, bo and upset is trying to communicate as much as they can what they want/see, but often ends so poorly from the execution side from the team idk if its brain lag or stage fright the game looks super autopilot/solo queue like

  • @chrisd2536
    @chrisd25364 ай бұрын

    Most of KC fans are blaming Upset and Bo for the losses just because they don't want to blame the "og" members of this team. This is ridiculous lol

  • @redwoolfred2
    @redwoolfred24 ай бұрын

    I'v never seen a support so quiet before

  • @silentrhymes7490
    @silentrhymes74904 ай бұрын

    You can say Bo is learning english and all that but I can barely understand anything of what the french players are saying

  • @kingath_0142
    @kingath_01424 ай бұрын

    I am telling you guys bo needs a communicating mid sup duo. He literally went like 10-0 on fox because doinb and crisp managed the game and he could show his mechanics.

  • @kingath_0142

    @kingath_0142

    4 ай бұрын

    But on kc its the exact opposite targamas is muted and sakens English sounds even worse than Bos

  • @deliberation6022

    @deliberation6022

    4 ай бұрын

    @@kingath_0142 I thought Saken was speaking french at times. I swear the french captions looked accurate.

  • @Genpsalm
    @Genpsalm4 ай бұрын

    Hats off to Bo he really tried, his english also improved and you can clearly understand whay he says. Other members should stepup, mid should talk more, give his opinions approaching team fights or in their macro

  • @pantack5112
    @pantack51124 ай бұрын

    I'm a native english speaker and I can barely understand the french players sometimes, i feel bad for Bo

  • @alejandrocremades9411
    @alejandrocremades94114 ай бұрын

    ofc if targamas mutes in game in stage like in champions queue

  • @ambiente6708
    @ambiente67084 ай бұрын

    i cant even remember when upset win game in LEC for last time

  • @aziaufa418

    @aziaufa418

    4 ай бұрын

    June last year

  • @enjoy2k_
    @enjoy2k_4 ай бұрын

    Basically, Cinkrof was the shotcaller in KC that’s why it’s not working

  • @imheretosleep
    @imheretosleep4 ай бұрын

    I watched all of their games and I can say 100%, Upset is a good ADC sadge he got a support like Targamas.

  • @Pigraider268
    @Pigraider2684 ай бұрын

    Midlane, support and top aren't talking. Could this be because they are french?

  • @SereneMars
    @SereneMars4 ай бұрын

    Just get trymbi in

  • @PiratePineapplez
    @PiratePineapplez4 ай бұрын

    Targamas Is getting payed for this

  • @TehKevin10
    @TehKevin104 ай бұрын

    XQC midlane and a broken mic support with Bo tryharding his best.

  • @ponglenis9273
    @ponglenis92734 ай бұрын

    Upset because like:I SAID WE TRADE, NOT WINTRADE

  • @nachnamevorname3431
    @nachnamevorname34314 ай бұрын

    1:53 Marek fucking Brazda withhis Akali who drives a Mazda making absolutly fun of Cabochard

  • @user-rt5ew9tl6b
    @user-rt5ew9tl6b4 ай бұрын

    6:15 yes upset played it well but did you notice that mikyx went straight through the wole vision part and they didnt react xd? Bot trolled it hardly but its true that upset outplayed it in some way but it doesn't change fact that there wouldnt't be any action on bot if they just fall back when they saw mikyx running down on em lol

  • @nicolsd4413
    @nicolsd44134 ай бұрын

    do you think had they kept the lfl roster they'd have better results?

  • @jaybeecaranza9471
    @jaybeecaranza94714 ай бұрын

    the fact that Targamas is an LEC champion is mind boggling to me how he plays in LEC and not saying anything during clash LOL

  • @normidamusni167
    @normidamusni1674 ай бұрын

    Upload the kt vs kdf mr. Rat editor

  • @derteezauberer5884
    @derteezauberer58844 ай бұрын

    I feel like Targa doesn't want to play the game

  • @florianlehmann8335
    @florianlehmann83354 ай бұрын

    Okey cabo and targamas are just muted or what?

  • @keknaskekngnton6658
    @keknaskekngnton66584 ай бұрын

    at this point they need to make either a full french roster so they can speak french or ff

  • @scottt461
    @scottt4614 ай бұрын

    Targamas is basically win trading

  • @SuccuNoob
    @SuccuNoob4 ай бұрын

    poor Bo

  • @summonstormx
    @summonstormx4 ай бұрын

    Okay but Bo is in elohell

  • @LuisPeerez
    @LuisPeerez4 ай бұрын

    targamas tenia bajo a boca

  • @freakopath8853
    @freakopath88534 ай бұрын

    Nah but I can't hear what Saken is saying man

  • @raizerlax7
    @raizerlax74 ай бұрын

    They are just so desynced in every fight. It makes it so hard to trust your teammates to cover you in fights as an ad

  • @ramus1063
    @ramus10634 ай бұрын

    One of my good friends whom is a adc main played with targa bard in gm. He said he is one of the worst pros he had ever played with XD

  • @bowser2onrs
    @bowser2onrs4 ай бұрын

    Time to call trymbi and finn?

  • @jomoliu
    @jomoliu4 ай бұрын

    I will never believe that Bo is not a top tier jungle. When he was on FPX they were literally unbeatable. If he wasn’t found to be win trading and banned, I genuinely think they could’ve made it far at worlds that year.

  • @Art1factlol
    @Art1factlol4 ай бұрын

    honestly i upset and bo are crystal clear and i dont understand a word the others say. especially saken. i feel like he is just speaking french

  • @2xYuW
    @2xYuW4 ай бұрын

    So what you're saying is that G2 2022 was fighting 4v5 and still won LEC lmao

  • @chie9500
    @chie95004 ай бұрын

    Im not a KC Fan but little bit concerned 😢 Feels bad for Bo and Upset i hope they change roster for spring and summer Canna or Finn was free on Top and Abbadagge on Mid and Trymbi on Support this roster would be decent

  • @zora1860

    @zora1860

    4 ай бұрын

    they choose kc kinda their own fault

  • @kvyatormaldonado92

    @kvyatormaldonado92

    4 ай бұрын

    not a lot of options for the duo after last summer split. @@zora1860

  • @concept3705
    @concept37054 ай бұрын

    This is what I think honestly, they looked awkward, I think Saken has some good questions and but I think the atmosphere betweem them are just awkward. It look to me that they arent that close together.

  • @brammutje15
    @brammutje154 ай бұрын

    upset and bo are asking the right questions yes, but there is never a decisive play. no one steps their foot down and makes the team commit to something

  • @wisteria_blade
    @wisteria_blade4 ай бұрын

    i thought cabo is a veteran why is blud not speaking

  • @pique3124
    @pique31244 ай бұрын

    This is so different to T1s comms where everyone takes turns calling shots. I don't know which style is better but interesting to see the differences.

  • @onceph1858

    @onceph1858

    4 ай бұрын

    One is a literal world championship team while the other is 0-6 in lec.

  • @LargeMcBottoms
    @LargeMcBottoms4 ай бұрын

    Upset playing all those fights so incredibly bad.

  • @HossundHopf_News
    @HossundHopf_News4 ай бұрын

    Smart play by KC, so they can kick out them and everyone sees why and noone complains.

  • @joppevanstiphout516
    @joppevanstiphout5164 ай бұрын

    Really stretching that fair use here lol

  • @ph8808
    @ph88084 ай бұрын

    Free my boy upset

  • @THEkullerpuller
    @THEkullerpuller4 ай бұрын

    Just imagine this: KC goes and gets Nisqi from SK (he is pretty good with French fans) and Trymbi. Suddenly you have a support that understands his role, that talks, that doesn't need to be micromanaged by Upset and a mid that is known to enable his jungler very well. At that point you should at least be able to make playoffs even with Cabo loosing every lane and you can still look to get Odo or even Bwipo if you want. Hearing these comms should get Targa and Saken investigated for matchfixing. Like who gets explicitly told to tank, agrees to tank and then NOT TAKE AGGRO to get his jungler killed? Same with Saken saying 'I can hard commit to top' while being a mile away and then not even walking directly to the fight. This should get you benched instantly. And I imagine that their staff has more examples of this behavior from scrims. I mean you have the player with the highest potential in the league by far with Bo and Yamato has stated that he wants a team to fully commit to Bo's playstyle but every time this happens Bo will trust his team less and less and at some point start to doubt himself which is the last thing you'd want to happen.

  • @grimjowjaggerjak

    @grimjowjaggerjak

    4 ай бұрын

    Nisqy and upset hate each other tho

  • @THEkullerpuller

    @THEkullerpuller

    4 ай бұрын

    @@grimjowjaggerjak wait really? All I know is that Fnatic tried to get Humanoid. Then maybe go for Carzzy Hilly next year since Upset only signed for one year and try to get Bo to resign 🤔

  • @THEkullerpuller

    @THEkullerpuller

    4 ай бұрын

    @@grimjowjaggerjak oh I just noticed that Abbedagge is available. Maybe that would be a quick fix for spring 🤔

  • @alozyyy
    @alozyyy4 ай бұрын

    Just get Trymbi and try with like any ERL toplaner. I think Saken can improve with time, Cabo and Targamas are just not LEC level

  • @podjono

    @podjono

    4 ай бұрын

    STFU WITH Trymbi this motherfucker wintraded for 2 years with his dogshit nasus and alistar, get someone fresh

  • @marekcolapro
    @marekcolapro4 ай бұрын

    Why is Saken speaking in french so often

  • @Moxie2017

    @Moxie2017

    4 ай бұрын

    Cause he's French

  • @6thvst

    @6thvst

    4 ай бұрын

    he's not, just speaking english with a french accent

  • @GoldenShowerEnjoyer

    @GoldenShowerEnjoyer

    4 ай бұрын

    Because french people think France is the world

  • @sorcy5467

    @sorcy5467

    4 ай бұрын

    @@6thvst *english with french words

  • @GruesomeSkunk

    @GruesomeSkunk

    4 ай бұрын

    He's not, he's just speaking extremely fast, it must be hard af for bo

  • @tenarmurk
    @tenarmurk4 ай бұрын

    idk people flaming upset when hes been best adc in eu for 3 years now

  • @reddddahlia
    @reddddahlia4 ай бұрын

    targamas cant talk or? everytime the cam is on him on draft too blud dont say anything edit- got to the milio dive and holy shit what the fuck is this guy doing

  • @Thoughtless141

    @Thoughtless141

    4 ай бұрын

    Sadly he also cant play

  • @Batchiee
    @Batchiee4 ай бұрын

    Istg that any team in lck academy and LDL can stomp this roster 😂😂😂

  • @fernandoortiz1730
    @fernandoortiz17304 ай бұрын

    Cabo and Targa out next season :o

  • @arosu13
    @arosu134 ай бұрын

    ur adc being the most vocal is a problem. there are very few adc's in pro that are shotcalling/being vocal for example Ghost when he was on DK but thats because he wasnt mechanically gifted like the other adc's Upset mechanically surpasses most adc's in the west and having him be the one asking questions and making plays is the worst thing you can do

  • @ngnl_irisoul
    @ngnl_irisoul4 ай бұрын

    Targamas needs to either improve his macro/vocal, sup is legit the least mechanically intensive role, the main value of a good sup player is game knowledge, macro and shotcalling. If he can't do it, he's probs very replaceable in the foreseeable future. Like it da doesn't even matter if the other 4 are playing bad if the role that's supposed to be vocal is da just replaceable by probs any veteran ad/mid/jg player

  • @foolwhodreams
    @foolwhodreams4 ай бұрын

    Upset try not to get 10th place challenge level impossible

  • @jimlahey9122
    @jimlahey91224 ай бұрын

    Damn i feel really bad about upset and bo. Shotcalling as adc is something that should never happen in pro play

  • @thaver9
    @thaver94 ай бұрын

    Dam, comments here are great XD idint knew the world had so much idiots to offer XD

  • @c0lson
    @c0lson4 ай бұрын

    Bro u legit have two french who u can barely understand cause of their accent plus Bo who couldnt speak english before joining LEC And Targamas who doesnt speak naturally at all wo else can speak and call if not Upset

  • @calvinvang4749

    @calvinvang4749

    4 ай бұрын

    Lmao that shit is funny as fk but true. I can't understand the Frenchman at all. At least I understand bo

  • @kaly8329
    @kaly83294 ай бұрын

    Whos the guy screaming in french?

  • @abouttime2569

    @abouttime2569

    4 ай бұрын

    caster probably

  • @bikoar2826

    @bikoar2826

    4 ай бұрын

    Kameto

  • @Palindrome3945
    @Palindrome39454 ай бұрын

    The thing is, as bad as Targa Saken and Cabo are this split, fans will never want to replace them, and KC can't afford to lose its fans sweet sweet money. Pretty sure they gonna wait for Caliste to join and take Cinkroff, replacing the 2 best performing members, for the better or worse.

  • @eVill420

    @eVill420

    4 ай бұрын

    nah there's no shot they do an Astralis speedrun surely they have eyes

  • @CortoMREX

    @CortoMREX

    4 ай бұрын

    No Kameto will kick them if they don't step up, he like the player but he will prio the Club. For BO i'm not sure, he is amazing but i think if you wan't BO you have to make a roster for him.

  • @eVill420

    @eVill420

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CortoMREX they don't really need to make a roster for Bo, you just need someone (trymbi) directing him (Targamas could never) to do the right thing so that his mechanics get used in the right places

  • @alozyyy
    @alozyyy4 ай бұрын

    Wtf 2:52

  • @AsmeowdeuZz
    @AsmeowdeuZz4 ай бұрын

    Maybe It was me being distracted by subtitles. But are they trying to say french during teamfight in game1? AINTNOWAY Bo gonna understand dat.

  • @marcus2259
    @marcus22594 ай бұрын

    Bo may not speak perfectly, but buzzwords should be enough to trigger his teammates what to do if they actually also actively thinking.

  • @TouchedWood
    @TouchedWood4 ай бұрын

    My apology to Bo, he is trying so hard

  • @HypersonicBeaver
    @HypersonicBeaver4 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure Bo can't understand 80% of what they're saying during teamfights. Those comms are too chaotic for a guy who barely knows english. Even I struggle to understand wtf they are mumbling. Upset can't focus because he has to call everything. Targamas is always silent which is super weird for a support player, also playing with built-in 300ms in brain, complete passanger. Saken has to be more confident and find his way into comms. Cabo is just bad and his comms are always out of place. Once again, Bo's english is still bad, but even when he makes calls that make perfect sense everyone just ignores him. IMO this team needs a Beryl-type shot-caller support with a working brain and good weak side top. And again, Saken has to grow some balls, he can do much better.

  • @xmorose
    @xmorose4 ай бұрын

    insane how afk saken is, wouldn't notice if he wouldnt touch his mouse for 20 minutes

  • @Dschinghiss
    @Dschinghiss4 ай бұрын

    I can not understand A WORD that Saken is saying

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