UPDATE No20 END TO END LAYOUT

An update in name but more trying to settle my thoughts on the Accurascale Manor's noise problem amongt other things so lots of little bits of footage with different setups see what you think is it a case of me worrying to much or should I take action to sort it!!! Its not all about that though as I have bought something new and just a bit more on the station build which one day I will start.

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  • @ModelRailwayShed
    @ModelRailwayShedАй бұрын

    Hello Robert I hope you're recovering well from your procedure wishing you a speedy recovery Take care Deano

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Deano, Thanks for watching and your very nice comments and its good to see you back on YT just take it slow to keep yourself well as for me the op went very well and left me with 13 stiches and a bit of pain but now just a waiting game to see how it heals and its time I think just to get on with the build when the head has knited together a bit more. Cheers Robert.

  • @Imieitrenimodello
    @ImieitrenimodelloАй бұрын

    Hello dear Robert, First fingers crossed and you will see that everything will work out well. For locomotives you are not doing anything wrong, unfortunately the quality of any brand is expiring. The station is beautiful. A warm and affectionate greeting Alberto 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Alberto, Thank you so much for watching and your very nice comments and yes as you say I hope everything will work out well so I now need to get back doing the layout build after the head heals a bit more after the op which went very well leaving me with 13 stiches to be removed in 10 days time but will take it a bit easy until then. Cheers Robert.

  • @moorlandmodelrailwayandy
    @moorlandmodelrailwayandyАй бұрын

    Hi Robert I'm no electrical expert so unfortunately I can't even attempt to passa comment on the wires. I just use the wire size that I was advised by some dcc experts. Now the Manor, I think you said it was accurascale. Now I have seen on other KZread channels that some of them have a problem with noisy motors. I had a problem with my class 37 which I sent back to them twice, at their cost. First time it came back and the motor was very noisy, similar to your Manor. I sent it back again and it was fitted with another motor, which, so far so good. No noise, runs great. It may be worth contacting their customer service and asking their advice. Don't forget they now have a lifetime guarantee. Cheers Andy

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Andy, It is strange that the Manor is the only loco that makes this sort of noise so what you say might be the reason. I am thinking this single problem it taking far to much of my time so will now just leave well alone and get on with the build once my head heals a bit more. I do as always thank you for watching and your very nice and helpful comments hope you are well and finding the time to enjoy your super layout. Cheers Robert.

  • @collinsngauge5493
    @collinsngauge549324 күн бұрын

    Hi Robert the tree's look great they may cost alot but if your happy buying them. that's all that matters. I'm having to make mine only because i need 1000s, that will teach me for doing a big layout😂😂😂😂 But the thought of building it is exciting. I do have noisy trains but for me i want the train or the livery you have to put up with the noise. But what your finding is very interesting. This video must of taken alot of time to put together. Colin

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    24 күн бұрын

    Hi Colin again, They are nice trees but they do seem to leave bits everywhere so my give them a coat of varnish to seal them but yes if you had to buy all these there would be no cash left for the rest of the railway!!! As always thanks again for watching and your very nice comments and pleased you are enjoying seeing me do this very tiny layout slowly. Keep well and enjoying your modelling. Cheers Robert.

  • @hotdogpilot6319
    @hotdogpilot6319Ай бұрын

    I just think we all have models like this, different noises at different speeds, some do, some don't. Well done for persevering if only to find it made no discernible difference. I'd just live with it and bash on.

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Andy, Yes I have as I said in this come to the same conclusion so will now just get on with the build and as for the locos not running well have had a look at them and got them running a lot better so cheers for watching and your very nice and mind resting comments. I hope you are enjoying your time away from YT and will come back all eager to entertain us again. Cheers Robert.

  • @tomhoustonmodelrail-nk7eh
    @tomhoustonmodelrail-nk7ehАй бұрын

    Hi Robert, hope the op went well, I had a similar thing, a Basal Cell Carcinoma removed from right in the middle of my forehead recently, My op wasn't too bad, the skin felt a bit tight for a few days after and I had a bit of a headache, but not enough to be bothered with painkillers. All the best, Tom

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Tom, Thanks for watching and your very kind comments and yes op went very well and has left me with 13 stiches and a bit of pain but so far no headache but pain killers are needed and a bit of care not to put any strain on the wound but in 10 days the stiches will hopefully come out and it will heal well I hope yours is doing well and you are now back to you ownself. Cheers Robert.

  • @malcolmpayne754
    @malcolmpayne754Ай бұрын

    Hi Robert, Hope your operation goes well and you will get better soon. I don't have sufficient knowledge to comment on the wiring but will be following closely the outcome to the problem. Cheers Malcolm

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Malcolm, Yes the op went well and now waiting for my 13 stiches to heal a bit so I can continue with the build having come to the conclusion that there is not much wrong with the layout the construction of the baseboard is I think the main reason for all the noise but apart from the Manor the others are ok so the Manor may need some attention from Accurascale as others have said so after a delay the build will indeed continue as always thanks very much for watching and your very nice comments. Cheers Robert.

  • @medwaypeninsulaMR
    @medwaypeninsulaMRАй бұрын

    Hi Robert I hope the op went well and you are recovering. Model Railways can certainly be frustrating 😀 Cheers Kev

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Kev, Yes indeed they can but it is all part of the hobby the rough with the smooth so to say. Thanks for watching and your very nice comments and as for the op it went very well and has left me with 13 stiches which will be removed in 10 days time and a bit of pain but its only to be expected. I am now going to get on with building the layout as have deceided that most of this is ok with maybe the Manor needing to be looked at by Accurascale as some have said in the comments but I have mostly sorted the locos which were not running very well it was them and not the layout so all is good. Cheers Robert.

  • @route7railway567
    @route7railway567Ай бұрын

    Hi Robert… Hope all went well with the procedure and you aren’t too uncomfortable. Regarding the noise issue. To me it sounds like a mechanical vibration. When electronic tech goes wrong we often solve the problem by doing the off and on again thing. I suppose the equivalent in our hobby for a noisy loco is to take it to pieces and put it back together again 😂 It’s worked for me in the past, and sometimes during the process you may be lucky and find the cause of the problem. Regards… Steve 👍

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Steve, Yes a few of the comments on this think there may be a fault in the Manor but as a new purchase and with the lifetime guarantee it may be better to get them to sort it as for the rest all the other loco's are doing well and having had a look at the ones that did not run well and improving them I think its time to get on with the build which I will when the 13 stiches in my head heal a bit more after the op that went very well so thanks very much for watching and your very nice comments hope you are keeping well and enjoying playing trains. Cheers Robert.

  • @piccadillymodelrailways
    @piccadillymodelrailwaysАй бұрын

    Blimey Robert you nearly gave me palpatations when you said the price of those trees. Can't really comment on the wire Im afraid, although I do use domestic house wire and strip out the varying colours from the multi strand cable. Personally Id contact Accurascale over your Manor, there is a lifetime guarantee on all of their models regardless of age. Sounds to me like the worm drive similar to the 60 you had a while ago.

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi John, Yes very expensive not the way to go but as there is not a lot of space for trees its not a problem, I think its now time to get on with the build as I have had a look at the loco's that were not running very well and have made them better so cheers for watching and your very nice comments including about the wires you use on your layout which has helped me think I do not have a problem with mine but yours is the second comment on the Manor so may take this further I hope work is ok and you will find the time to get on with Piccadilly. Cheers Robert.

  • @mccoy79productions66
    @mccoy79productions66Ай бұрын

    Great share man!

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi, Thanks very much for watching and your very nice comment. The next update on Friday see how it continues. Cheers Robert.

  • @duncanwatson9054
    @duncanwatson9054Ай бұрын

    I would look at your manor, motor mount. It sounds like the motor vibrating or between the motor and the drive gear. It may not be anything of the sort. I do think what ever the noise is, it is being amplified by the baseboard. Good luck with your procedure. I hope all goes to plan.

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Duncan, Yes I think all of this noise is indeed being made worse due to the construction of the baseboard but its only the Manor that is bad so I may mention it to Accurascale to see if it has a problem as others have commented on cheers for watching and your very nice comments and as for the op all has gone well leaving me with 13 stiches and a bit of pain but in 10 days will have the stiches out and be back more to normal (whatever that is!!!). Cheers Robert.

  • @Xantec
    @XantecАй бұрын

    the noise from Cookham Manor I wouldnt worry too much about. Sounds like the worm drive and the primary cog are making the noise. Nothing to worry about

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi, Thank you for that and for watching as well so its just the baseboard magnifying the sound you think so now time to stop thinking something is wrong and get on with the build and thats what I am going to do. Cheers Robert.

  • @Xantec

    @Xantec

    Ай бұрын

    @@robertstrainset6556 more likely the body acting like an echo chamber i would suspect. I wouldn't worry too much about it, I have N gauge locos that are far more grindy than yours.

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642
    @kellyashfordtrains2642Ай бұрын

    That sound that Cookham Manor made is normal. If you listen carefully to a real GWR steam engine, moving slowly forward, you will hear that sort of slight grinding noise. All GWR steamies make the noise when going really slowly, to determine if they're fit for work or not. For instance, if Cookham Manor was moving slowly forward, making the noise you hear and then she stopped, you'd see she wasn't well and needed TLC. If she moved slowly forward while making the noise, and then gradually picked up speed, you'd know all is well and she's fit as a fiddle. So, you're not doing anything wrong. The engines were making a very realistic sound, which they do in real life.

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Kelly, Thank you so much for putting my mind at rest on the noise the Manor makes and watching this so now is the time to get on with the build after my head wound from the op heals a bit more I hope your health problems are getting sorted also. Cheers Robert.

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642

    @kellyashfordtrains2642

    Ай бұрын

    @@robertstrainset6556 My rearranged Liverpool Hospital appointment is on Wed. 17th July at 1pm. I don't fancy attending 3 days before my 42nd birthday, Sat. 6th July. Make a note of my birthday if you want to, and give me a nice unexpected surprise.

  • @ChristianBitter
    @ChristianBitterАй бұрын

    With a multimeter you won't get an exact voltage display with DCC because of the frequency. 16 or 25 Hz You have to connect a bridge rectifier to measure. Then set the multimeter to DC Depending on the DCC system it should then show 14-19 volts I have all kinds of cables on my large layout and that doesn't make any real change to the frequency

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Christian, Thank you for watching and your very nice and useful comments and yes this confirms what I said in the video but as the readings on both layouts were simular it is not I think a problem that needs fixing. I am beginning to think I am making far to much from all this and should just get on with the build which hopefully I will in the next video. Cheers Robert.

  • @grrfy
    @grrfyАй бұрын

    have you got longish runs of bus wire bundled together? if so try separating them , and then twist the droppers together ,see if that helps.

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi, Thanks for watching and your interesting comments and no the only long wires are the buss ones all the others are the droppers which if you look back at the earlier videos are not long at all. I think I have two things going on here the Manor with its 3 pole motor and a baseboard construction that makes all the noises the engines make far more noticable but the Manor is the only one were the noise is bad and its only at very very low speed it does that, some of my subscribers think it may need looking at by Accurascale as some motors are not right so I am now going to get on with the build and accept what the layout is. Cheers Robert.

  • @grrfy

    @grrfy

    Ай бұрын

    @@robertstrainset6556 yeah i meant are your long bus wires close together , twisting the droppers can help cancel any electrical noise interesting about it may be the motors, hope you get it sorted 🙂

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    @@grrfy there about 38mm apart so not together cheers for the interest. Thanks Robert

  • @MekitThiSenModels-rl6mf
    @MekitThiSenModels-rl6mfАй бұрын

    Just my opinion but your wire looks a bit thick for a model railway.

  • @robertstrainset6556

    @robertstrainset6556

    Ай бұрын

    Hi, Thanks for watching and your very nice comment and you may well be right but I have seen other modellers who use house wire so think its ok after all it only needs to transmit the signals from the controller to the track and then to the locos as this is a Dcc layout and when you compare it to the other wires I used for the droppers its not much bigger but being solid core looks a lot thicker and it does as you see work the Manor loco is the only one with a real problem and after reading some of the comments on this video there may well be a fault in it so I am now going to continue with the build and hope you will watch to see how it turns out. Cheers Robert.

  • @MekitThiSenModels-rl6mf

    @MekitThiSenModels-rl6mf

    Ай бұрын

    @@robertstrainset6556 Hi I will watch the rest of the build. And the fault is probably the Manor loco. Thinner multi strand wire gives better flow of electric...voltage, amps whatever. As long as you don't go too thin and burn the wiring out. But its always good to experiment and I'm sure it will all be fine.