Wish this video was available 2 years ago. It would've saved me about a thousand dollars of coaching money. I for some reasons shifted to full western grip over the years from semi-western. The quality of my forehand got worse and worse because I didn't know that my old technique didn't work with my new western grip. From my coach, I learned two of the three points in this video...contact point has to be more in front and have to make more space to swing the racket around. The western grip doesn't allow late hit and short wrist slap. It has to be a full early swing. After 2 years of practice, I'm getting a better handle on the western grip.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome ✅️

My son junior 8 years old, playing and competing in local ITF academy here in Kazakhstan, they start with eastern grip because you know those red balls bounce very low, and they hit more like Federer, but now they are moving to orange ball which bounce at the level of shoulder and above, and now trainers ask them to do more top spin, so basically they now need to change grip to stay competitive. So my son had to choose between semi western and western, and he chose western, I told him maybe it would be better to use semi western, but he insists on western explaining that its more comfortable for him, I guess he feels that western gives him better control. But what's interesting is that after eastern grip he doesn't know about swing you explained, its so great you showed difference of arm and body motion for these different shots. You are talented and know what you explaining, thank you, sorry if there is any mistakes in my English.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words. For you son I think let him do what feels comfortable as long as he doesn't go too far over. Good luck to him

So helpful Coach! My tennis pro tried to change me to a semi western but I hated it. With western, I’ve learned if I go really open stance , I get a lot more power and top spin.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

Жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

You mentioned there are more tips for the western forehand, could you make another video on this stroke? Thanks. Excellent video

Good video from a coach who doesn't use the grip. I switched a few years ago and it's been great. The grip is best for your wrist. Eastern and Semi Western are stress for wrist at contact. But I found that it's better to have your weight further back at contact. Also, the low balls are not a problem if the ball is in front. If you're even the slightest late, the aim is unpredictable. But I like to buggy whip or angle my arm on low balls like Fed does. I don't like bending down cos it loses power and it's tiresome too. The grip is great because I don't have to switch grips on backhand and I can hit through high balls instead of spinning them.

Brilliant tips

I absolutely love playing with my western grip!!! For me, the power and spin is so effortless- I actually have to pull back a little when playing for points. I never have pain in my wrists when playing, like I used to when I was using eastern grip. Also I use a hammer western grip versus a pistol western grip- it is much easier for me.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome man. Makes sense 👊

@yakzivz1104

2 жыл бұрын

@@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808 I really do appreciate you doing this video though. The majority of coaches just insist on the player changing her/his grip to eastern. LOL

I use an extreme full western grip. My 2 cents is I must go full speed in every shot. Kind of your tip #2. But really wipe the ball. If you hesitate a second then you lose the point for sure. Needs to be fully committed on each forehand.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

Жыл бұрын

Like it 🎾

@mangood6

Жыл бұрын

me too

@dibs6579

Жыл бұрын

I as well am in the same boat. Sad thing is I didn’t figure this out till much later. But it consumes so much energy but it’s the only way I’m competitive

@Aidev7876

Жыл бұрын

@@dibs6579 yeah. But to be honest, it's a pleasure to go for it

@dibs6579

Жыл бұрын

@@Aidev7876 when that ball is spinning like crazy it is 😂. But I feel like the ceiling for a full western grip is so low. It’s a limiting grip.

Interesting. I did not deliberately choose the semi-western, it just was where my grip settled and felt best. Your explanation makes me see I made the right choice for my swing even if western is better for many.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

Жыл бұрын

Awesome ✅️

Thank you so much for this. I settled on a western grip a long time ago, and don't want to change it at this point. I understand the cons of it, I'd just like to maximize the pros. Hitting more out in front and open stance seems to be key. I'll concentrate on those. I can be "consistent" with my strokes, but they consistently land short in the court. I'll try your tips. Thanks again!

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

No problem at all good luck 👍

Sehr gut Information !!! Danke schön !

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

👌👌🔥

You have explained really nice details about Full western forehand grip. My son's having same grip forehand and more band then western grip. It's his backhand grip only he is using as forehand. But at contact point racket is half close not fully open so lesser power against slow ball, against fast ball it's ok. We are still working on this. Thanks

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

Жыл бұрын

Keep going

Going to try this grip after your comment about Thiem’s backhand grip from another video.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome good luck

I like western grip, can get a lot of power with room for error. But hitting a forehand on the run is difficult, and hitting cross court forehands on the run is extremely difficult and opponents may catch on that you have to go down the line on running forehand’s.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

Жыл бұрын

👊

No!!! Use a continental grip!!! Joking!!! Western grip is great for slower balls with a high bounce...but i think Eastern or semi-western grip is more effective... Btw, this video was awesome for explaining the Western grip!

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🔥

Super! Genius!

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 ай бұрын

Thank you🏆

pls do a video of using western on hard court.

How to increase power in full western grip forehand ,any exercises you can suggest plz

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@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 ай бұрын

🏆

Didnt even realise I had a full western grip until some people told me that my grip was weird lmao. I feel like very low balls are the easiest to hit tho idk why

Have you done a western grip return of serve video? I especially have trouble returning first serves in doubles. Any tips?

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

My first thought is you might need more time as your swing need to be bigger on a western grip. So maybe make some space by taking couple steps back 👌

Hi, thank you for the explanation. I use western but I have more trouble with the high balls more than with the lower ones. Maybe I am hitting too late. I think the sweet spot on this grip is very very little compared to eastern and others. I guess i have to try to hit more in the very front but that is so hard when you actually playing a real game with someone. How can I improve my western? I was even planning to hit like Dannil lol

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

On the high ball, it's very important to hit the ball back UP in the same direction ✅

Wow, thanks much for super demo. Do Western guys also serve with special grip or still Continental ?

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

10 ай бұрын

Def continental grip 👌

I feel like my western forehand has evolved so much in the past year

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

3 ай бұрын

Awesome

@thelonelydekuscrub4817

3 ай бұрын

@@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808 I remember watching this video awhile back and just finding it again this week. Its nice to see someone actually try to help improve your western forehand rather than outright telling you to just switch to a semiwestern grip.

What grip would Nick Kyrgios be using? Love the way his forehand is.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

Kyrgios I believe is semi Western ✅✅ He has so much talent

@andyhung424able

2 жыл бұрын

by watching some of the slow motion videos on youtube, I realized that Kyrgios usually use western but he would use semi-western for those amazing slap flat forehands that wow everyone.

can you tell how not to destroy your wrist with this grip?

Hi, thank you for the tips. Recently i start playing tennis and my coach teach me to eastern grip but i feel unconfortable using it. So i ended up rotating my grip and found full western grip naturally confortable in on my hand. Do you have any tips to lessen the burden on the stamina? 😅

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

4 ай бұрын

Would just use more legs. In time it will get better

Iga, Fritz can hit perfect forehand with close, semi open and open stands. Furthermore, I think both of them have a compact back swing. Do you think so ?

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

This Video is just to show what is more convenient and comfortable 👌

@JH-qn8bg

2 жыл бұрын

@@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808 Maybe,it depends on everyone’s situation. I guess that compact swing is probably convenient for most people. Maybe I am wrong. Thanks for your video.

I would like to ask..if i have started with western grip and any other grip doesnt feel right is it worth while practicing with a semi western grip just for the low shots? or is it more trouble than its worth practicing with a different grip?

@alexlackner1945

21 күн бұрын

It makes sense if you wanna learn to play with a new grip. But if you're planning on using the semi western only for low balls that would just mess up your muscle memory.

4th tip. Use dampeners, theyre cheap as heck

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

3 ай бұрын

How cheap is heck?

I serve Western grip but never tried a forehead Western. That looks crazy🧐😂😂 I will try it but I bet it gonna see some net.

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck 👊👌🔥

@stevenjm12

2 жыл бұрын

How do you serve with a western grip????

@josiepalmer4562

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenjm12 I have told by a 5.0 player? I didn't remember that my grip is actually called semi- western. The 5.0 player had me practice Continental grip which made serving much easier but I still prefer the semi-western. Maybe KZread search it? To me I would describe semi-western like aligned hand to the racket making a V instead of the "handshake" Continental. The racket would be slightly tilted to the side. The difference between east and west is which way you are tilting the racket and aligning your hand being the area between the thumb and the pointer finger has a V on the grip. Sorry if I'm not very helpful. Maybe ask this coach on here.

@stevenjm12

2 жыл бұрын

@@josiepalmer4562 I know what semi western is. All pros serve continental and coaches will all say to serve continental and not with a forehand grip

@josiepalmer4562

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenjm12 Roger Federer serves with a modified Eastern grip. I thought a forehand grip was typically a continental grip. It wasn't until I saw this video that I had the idea to even practice different groups on a forehand. The same situation with my serve because I had never tried anything different than a semi-western. I guess it's just a matter of how you are taught or learn to play and then trying different things to see what works best for your development of skill.

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am I wrong calling what you call "eastern" as "continental" and what you call "semiwestern" as "eastern"?

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you are wrong. Eastern is bevel 3, continental is bevel 2. Semiwestern is bevel 4. 👊🙏

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@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

Жыл бұрын

👌

Here trying to understand how Iga do it 😂

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

19 күн бұрын

Hope this helps 🙏

Western requires you to hit the ball much further in rather than out front. Odd video.

It looks like you have gone a little past the full western to Hawaiian...

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

4 ай бұрын

Sometimes it does tend to look like that

It's like hitting a badminton backhand but forehand. Ew.

What kind of instructor are you???!!! You totally forgot to mention that Western grip is not ideal for low ball.. go back to tennis school

@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808

2 ай бұрын

The best one in the world