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Universalism in the Early Church - Robin Parry

Robin Parry, contributor to Four Views on Hell: Second Edition, talks about how universalism was a prominent perspective in the early church.
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  • @christianuniversalist
    @christianuniversalist2 жыл бұрын

    Parry has worked so hard to help bring the history of Apokatastasis to light. Truly a servant of Jesus

  • @tomm6167
    @tomm616727 күн бұрын

    Thanks in _very_ large part to Robin Parry's masterful and comprehensive editing and annotating of Thomas Allin's _Christ Triumphant,_ I've been able to compile this list of a dozen church father quotes. I often post it in the comments sections of various you-tube videos related to Christian views of the afterlife, most of which posit eternal conscious torment. The related scriptures shown in brackets were added by me: Most leading early church fathers were Christian universalists: "Christ saves all men. Some he converts by penalties, others who follow Him of their own will ... that every knee may be bent to Him, of those in heaven, on earth, and under the earth" [Isa. 45:22-23, Rom. 14:11, Phil. 2:10-11, Rev. 5:13] -- *Clement of Alexandria,* _Commentary on 1 John_ "When death shall no longer exist, nor the sting of death, nor any evil at all, then, verily, God will be All in all" [1 Cor. 15:28,55] -- *Origen,* _De Principiis 3:6.3_ "What else does 'until the times of universal restoration' signify to us, if not the aeon to come, in which all beings must receive their perfect restoration?" [Acts 3:21] -- *Eusebius,* leading historian of the early church, _Contra Marcellum __2:4:11_ "A few drops of blood renew the whole world, and become for all men that which rennet is for milk, uniting and drawing us into one." [Col. 1:15-20] -- *Gregory Nazianzus,* _Oration 42_ "Christ captured over again the souls captured by the devil, for that He promised in saying, 'I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men unto Me.'" [John 12:32, 1 Peter 3:19-20, 4:6, Psalm 68:18, Eph. 4:8-10, and maybe Matt. 12:29] -- *Athanasius,* _Expositions on the Psalms, 68.18_ "The peace [coming] from the Lord is coextensive with all time [eternity]. For all things shall be subject to him, and all things shall acknowledge his empire; and when God shall be all in all, those who now excite discords by revolts, having been quite pacified, [all things] shall praise God in peaceful concord." [Psalm 145:10a, 1 Cor. 15:28, Rev. 5:13] -- *Basil,* _Commentary on Isaiah 9:6_ "So the Son of Man came to save that which was lost, i.e., all, for as in Adam all die, so, too, in Christ shall all be made alive." [Luke 19:10, 1 Cor. 15:22] -- *Ambrose,* _Exposition on the Gospel of Luke 15.3_ "For the wicked there are punishments not perpetual, ... but they are to be tormented for a certain brief period, according to the amount of malice in their works. They shall therefore suffer punishment for a short space, but immortal blessedness, having no end, awaits them; ... the penalties to be inflicted for their many and grave crimes are very far surpassed by the magnitude of the mercy to be showed them. The resurrection, therefore, is regarded as a blessing, not only to the good, but also to the evil." [Isa. 57:16], *Diodore,* _De Oecon_ "Some among the wise and learned … have alluded to this in an enigmatic way, by adducing that God is not only just, but also merciful, and that it becomes the One who judges with justice to have sinners suffer in a measure that is proportional to their sins and then make them worthy of blessedness." -- *Theodore,* _Liber Scholiorum, 2:63_ "'All the kings of the earth shall adore him.' Some, indeed, in the present life willingly, but all the rest after the Resurrection; for not yet do we see all things subject to him, but then every knee shall bow to him." [The "kings of the earth" are rebellious unbelievers in Rev. 6:15, 17:2,18, 18:3,9, 19:19,21 ... but check out what happens in Rev. 21:24-27!] -- *Theodoret,* _On Psalm 72:11_ "Death shall come as a visitor to the impious; it will not be perpetual; it will not annihilate them; but will prolong its visit, till the impiety which is in them shall be consumed." [Matt. 5:26] -- *Jerome,* _On Micah 5:8_ "After the complete abolition of sin, praise shall be sung to God; which praise contain (implies) our being incapable of turning to sin ... when every created being shall be harmonized into one choir ... and when, like a cymbal, the reasonable creation, and that which is now severed by sin ... shall pour forth a pleasing strain, due to mutual harmony. Then comes the praise of every spirit for ever abounding with increase unto eternity." [Psalm 150] -- *Gregory of Nyssa,* _On Psalms, Tract 1, ch. 9_ Other church fathers who believed in eventual universal salvation include *Asterius, Bardaisan, Cyril of Alexandria, Didymus the Blind, Dionysius, Ephrem the Syrian, Gennadius, Hilary, John Cassian, John Chrysostom, Marcellus, Maximus the Confessor, Maximus of Turin, Methodius, Paulinus, Proclus, Titus of Basra & Victorinus.* Sources: Thomas Allin, _Christ Triumphant,_ Annotated by Robin Parry edition, chapters 4-5, 1905 & Ilaria Ramelli, _A Larger Hope?, Volume 1: Universal Salvation from Christian Beginnings to Julian of Norwich,_ 2019

  • @danturner2602
    @danturner26022 жыл бұрын

    I am so appreciative of Robin's contribution. His work has been such an encouragement to me.

  • @bebrave9108
    @bebrave91082 жыл бұрын

    It’s amazing how we grow up in western Christianity and are made to feel this rhetoric is offensive. Almost like we’re made to be angry that people won’t suffer for eternity. It’s a sick sick paradigm. I’m so glad I lost my faith in hell

  • @sonnymustarseed7034

    @sonnymustarseed7034

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which "hell" ? Gehenna, Hades or Tartarus (aka Lake of Fire/ Refiner's Crucible as it's not "forever/eternal "

  • @sonnymustarseed7034
    @sonnymustarseed70342 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Robin! Who's really been abiding in heresy for the last 1500 or so years... Just bought the book by John W Hanson ;)

  • @williamoarlock8634
    @williamoarlock8634 Жыл бұрын

    The 'early church' seems as mythical as 'Jesus'.

  • @Foreverandever789
    @Foreverandever789 Жыл бұрын

    “ NOW IS THE TIME TO BELIEVE IN JESUS “ Read John 3:36 in your Bible Check out. # I WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN Life is short !