In RE to some of the shooting positions. I assure you, they're quite safe. I'm shooting from a elevated position down into a "cup" like area. The visual of the cars in the backdrop is mostly a by product of a wide FoV camera and a high angle. That being said, I still take fault here. Is it safe: I think so Could it be a lot safer: yes. I'll do better.

I love that you didn't just repeat the cliche statements but actually put everything into perspective

@BrassFacts

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that man.

@taint9690

Жыл бұрын

i love that your mom

@MRmagnatron

Жыл бұрын

​@@taint9690wait what did momma do?!

@zack9912000

Жыл бұрын

​@@MRmagnatron made me breakfast

@pimpinmagicianofprophecy

Жыл бұрын

Best EU based gunchannel hands down. -greetings from Germany 🤟

Me referring to this video next time the chipotle operator asks why i need more meat

@chadwik4000

Жыл бұрын

"MEEAT!" Who is this, Kowalski from The Ren and Stimpy episode where they adopt the death row inmate? What kind of bread do you want on your sandwich? "MEAT!" Okay, meat-on-meat sandwich... What do you want to drink? "MEAT!" They then proceed to blend up meat and Kowalski drinks down the sludge.

@MrCashewkitty

Жыл бұрын

@@chadwik4000 I still use that one today. Hahaja

@diesel5355

Жыл бұрын

@@chadwik4000 #RenandStimpyGang

@chadwik4000

Жыл бұрын

@@diesel5355 #happyhappyjoyjoyN1GGA

I get the downsides you mentioned. But for reals, the neck relief from a Unity riser is such a plus for me. Absolute cowitness sights murder my neck. I’m a small guy but the way I hold my rifle I can still get a cheek weld with the riser and it feels stable. Also it makes me look cool, which is +20 horsepower

@dondelchulia3189

5 ай бұрын

I always paint racing strips on mine

@arrowem

4 ай бұрын

Pitvipers can also give you a .27 MOA advantage..

@sethhlewis

4 ай бұрын

How's your neck looking through it in the prone for a long time? I remember a lot of laying in the prone looking though my optic in Iraq.

@Kennoisewater123

5 күн бұрын

It’s a CQB speciality item in my opinion I have one on a sbr. I run badger ordinace on my lpvo do it all rifles

I can only speak for myself, but as a glasses wearer, when shooting without a riser (Absolute or lower 1/3, doesn't matter.) I end up looking over my glasses and then I can't see for shit. Riser always for me.

@Heywoodthepeckerwood

8 ай бұрын

Nerds don’t shoot guns.

@tristanhodgden4286

8 ай бұрын

Exactly the same deal for me. Especially when the outer edges of my glasses fog up.

@kevmoful

4 ай бұрын

It’s true . Without my glasses even with an eo tech the dot is pretty shitty. I’m essentially using the circle and sending it . With glasses it’s almost perfect .

Super useful dude! I really appreciate your analysis IRL and breakdown on this. Awww, doggie dreams are best.

@Ferrum_Armory_llc

Жыл бұрын

Why does this comment say it’s 2 weeks old the video came out 4 hours ago

@scherry9198

Жыл бұрын

@@Ferrum_Armory_llc I'm a time traveller? Naw, I donate through Subscribstar and one of the benefits of that is seeing video's early. I highly recommend it!

Remember kids, There's always picatinny risers, they accomplish this concept at a fraction of the price, without weird proprietary crap to worry about. Good vid 👍

@cstgraphpads2091

Жыл бұрын

Remember kids, there isn't any "weird proprietary crap" going on with the 2.26 height mount except for the height itself. The Unity mount has a fairly specific use (i.e. makes shooting with night vision and comms headsets easier and less stressful on the neck) and people seem to either forget that or more or less ignore the company's information about the product in favor of their own Cliff's Notes/tl;dr version. Most of the people who do the kind of shooting this mount height is aimed at don't do a lot of prone shooting. They go transported to the target, walk/run in, kill who they need to, take what they need to, and leave. It isn't aimed at competition shooters, line infantry, "REECE" setups, etc. That doesn't mean that some people won't get benefit out of it even then, but the average buyer shouldn't get mad at the company when they buy something that isn't designed for their intended purpose.

@Minutes-Mils

Жыл бұрын

@@cstgraphpads2091 here is the good old firearms elitist I've been expecting you 🥸

@user-uq1kk4mh2n

Жыл бұрын

@@cstgraphpads2091 we get it bro, you bought a unity mount...

This explains the bullet holes in the back of my semi truck. Luckily I was only carrying orphans from one orphanage to the other, and only the lowest value ones got hit. Damage was easy to fix and cargo was covered by insurance.

@voltron0911

Ай бұрын

Scrolled way too far to find this. Where the hell is he shooting that he’s that close to a highway? 6:10

I couldn’t agree more the only benefit to any of these risers is either for situational awareness for a CQB environment or shooting under Nods. My team followed the tactical hype for awhile. We realized after 6k or so rounds that these blow ass on any other weapon system other then one specifically utilized for one of those scenarios. We still employ them on our CQB systems but shit canned them on ever other weapon to maintain shooting principles such as cheek weld and recoil mitigation.

Your comments about stability especially with a magnifier is exactly why I went with a 1.93" instead for my setup. I still have my cheek on the stock with that height for that extra bit of stability, unlike the Unity 2.26" height where I'm definitely going off of a chinweld and prone shooting wasn't pleasant for me. Of course like you said, I know folks that can still get a solid cheekweld even with a 2.26" so that's just down to body/head structure and genetics for personal preference/comfort. "It depends."

@boygonewhoopdataZZ

Жыл бұрын

Literally cheek risers exist

@ThePatriotParadox

Жыл бұрын

What barrel length are you running???

@Colin8979

Жыл бұрын

Ditto .. on both my 11.5 and 13.7 1.93 all day

@EOTechN9ne

Жыл бұрын

@@boygonewhoopdataZZ cheek risers on ARs aren't that great because of the charging handle location. Yeah you can get those small ones but the position of those aren't great. You can run your stock out but then its not great for eye relief and different positions. It's all pros and cons and its not a perfect solution. Cheek risers work great on AKs though.

@cstgraphpads2091

Жыл бұрын

I mean, if you're not using electronic earpro, NVGs, or a gas mask, you're missing the point of the 2.26 height.

Something interesting the guys at Orion Training Group mentioned with their Keenu Risers, a similar concept to the Unity but longer, is that they put a Wilcox FTS mount for a thermal system on the front, giving them both thermal and NV passive aiming solutions. And if they really desire to, they can run the 3x FTC Magnifier on the back. A lot of optics capability, but you can strip it down to just the EOTech.

@berryreading4809

Жыл бұрын

Exactly the mount height i would choose if I could budget $35,000 for a similar do-all premium night/day setup 😉

@RobotPanda15

Жыл бұрын

@@berryreading4809 lol, it's definitely an insane price point, but it's decently thought out

@berryreading4809

Жыл бұрын

@@RobotPanda15 It's seriously the perfect do everything night capable near peer/ peer-to-peer 5.56 carbine (assuming you have the supporting personal equipment as well white phosphorus dual tubes, proper bino mounts that play well with thermals, etc)... Although I'd take mine with a 14.5-16" barrel, QD suppressor, and one of the newer 5x/6x magnifiers instead of the classic 3x... Although I'm not sure how those play with the flip to center mounts 🤔 I think that's the only limitation to most builds similar to theirs, usually based on 10.5's with suppressors that stay on all the time... I like the idea of being able to push out my observation/ballistic power distance a little farther, but with the same night capabilities 👍 Now I just have to choose which Toyota 4x4 I love the least and sell it if I actually wanna make that a reality 😐 😄

The Unity is wonderful in its application. I have had one on my 10.5 for a while and love it, although it took some getting used to. I personally hate FTS mounts, but feel most rifles need magnification, if for no reason other than PID. It allows me to have some extra capability on a gun that was built for working mostly indoors. You did an amazing job on this video. It does its job very well, but there is no perfect for everything. Everything has pros and cons. Understand them and build accordingly.

Finally nice to hear an unbiased take on the whole high mount scene. When all you hear is marketing and former “operators” who spend all their time trying to sell these products, it gets hard to really hear an unbiased take on the whole concept. Thanks for putting out this info.

@taiven.lechevalier

5 ай бұрын

Former SOF dude spokesperson, “Everyone needs to buy this. This is the best thing ever.” Potential civilian customer, “I am skeptical.” SOF salesman, “YOU’RE NOT AN OPERATOR. THIS IS FOR GUYS WHO OPERATE.” Civilian, “Oh, I guess I don’t need it then, since I’m not an operator.” Salesman, “… Fuck.”

Personally, I loved mine. Makes aiming ridiculously comfortable. Yes it is high but really useful.

@TheStig505

Жыл бұрын

How is it shooting prone?

@Jordan-nc3zy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheStig505 not as comfortable as an absolute/lower 1/3 but not too bad

@narb731

Жыл бұрын

Especially useful when you have to look through your glasses to aim.

@Jordan-nc3zy

Жыл бұрын

@@narb731 yep, and I find that I don’t bump my ear pro off my strong side ear as often

@deusvult9349

Жыл бұрын

I've gone through weeks where I've been very high.

I have also adapted the style that keeping your head upright on your rifle during a fight is very useful. I don't need to struggle to arch my back when getting into a shooting stance

Solid review. I am new to rifle shooting and have these mounts. Honestly, I love them and that is solely based on the limited and few mounts I have tried before. Your review was super informative and gave me the clarity needed to truly understand the riser/mount.

I straight up just listen to your videos all day at this point. This one stood out from al the other great videos

One of my favorite matrixes: Low height over bore - Comfort (head-up position) - Recoil control You can only choose 2

@Excalibur01

Жыл бұрын

A 5.56 rifle isn't a lot of recoil so you don't have to control much

@felinor693

10 ай бұрын

Ctr stock cheek risers

@sethhlewis

4 ай бұрын

​@@Excalibur01you do if you're trying to group 8inch circles at 50 with any kind of speed.

@Excalibur01

4 ай бұрын

@@sethhlewis True but at that point, it is more about accuracy, which requires you to be a bit more deliberate than speed

2.26 helps me with situational awareness inside structures, and for patrol situations, the dot comes to my eye faster. PLus add in the if-needed use for NV it is a Very practical product.

Dude… beginning of this video had me rolling. Hahah. Best video/discussion on risers on have seen so far. Great vid.

I put a holosun 512 on a unity riser. Its one of my favorite optic setups on an ar15. The 512 is at an absolute cowitness height so the riser puts it at just over 2". Magnifiers are great but I only run them on absolute or lower 1/3 because of height compatibility. It makes sense they would be more difficult to use on a high mount with the eyebox and cheek/chinweld. Good video

Been watching for a year now and just wanted to say your videos have gotten incredibly better!!

I use a PRS lite on mine with the flip to center so I have a good cheek riser that allows me to keep it under recoil while being able to use it on both sides. I like it for unconventional positions for less of a signature. All you points are valid great vid. 👍

I like the unity riser with an XPS 3-0 so it's a closer to the scalarworks 1.93 height, running that with a vortex micro with the 1.93 spacer on my CQB and it's more comfortable than 2.2 personally and clears a peq-15 just fine. Great video again!

Bought mine for passive aiming and I really want all my optics at the same height now, or at least between 1.93-2.26. It’s extremely comfortable to shoot and I have no issues with it prone.

Yet another great video. Really good muzzle control. Im gonna have to start using the shoot house more.

Please do an episode on ammo. You can discuss the differences between zero ammo vs practice ammo, as well as “Game Day Ammo”. There’s a lot that goes into this because, obviously your zero is different from what you normally shoot everyday. You could discuss the relationship there as well as why you prefer a specific loading for a shtf scenario. But then there’s the nuance of why you zero your gun for one thing and shoot another. I also want to know what you are shooting. I like 55gr m193 clone bullshit cuz it’s everywhere and cheap and repeatable. But I’d like to see what you’re shooting and hear your reasoning why.

@mtnbound2764

Жыл бұрын

thats already been covered pretty well by others.

@christophersnuffer1972

5 ай бұрын

a 20in barrel turns all ammo into duty ammo. 😉

I realize it might not be for everyone but I love the unity fast mount. I wasn't sure about it until I actually used one and then I fell in love with it. The neck position is ultra comfortable for me and I do most of my shooting within 50 yards and no further than 200 so a magnifier isn't a major consideration. Your mileage may vary.

@YdoIneedahandle869

Жыл бұрын

Yup love this thing

@ThePatriotParadox

Жыл бұрын

What barrel length do you run? If I'm running a 13.9" but shoot out to 100 most or the time and to 300 occasionally, an RDS can do all of that with my 2,870 velocity right?

@Doc41295

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePatriotParadox primarily 13.7" but I also have one on my 16" gun. I like a 50/200 zero and don't have any trouble hitting at 200 with just a dot.

@ImperiumLibertas

Жыл бұрын

magnifiers are still important for PID.

@Doc41295

Жыл бұрын

@@ImperiumLibertas Yeah they definitely can be. I'm a big fan of magnifiers. At the same time though context matters. If I'm in my house I don't need a magnifier to see that the armed stranger in my kitchen is a threat. If I'm in the woods trying to see whether the guys on the next ridge are a threat then it's indispensable. The first situation is a lot more likely for me than the second one though.

I think this was one of your better videos. I think you covering the downsides and discussing how it is a niche use was valuable. I personally dislike unity height for red dots and absolutely hate their LPVO mount. Using it with a mask or for passive with a dot makes sense but something with an eye box is silly.

I have a 2.25 fast riser for my eotech and will never go back to anything else. Being able to shoulder your weapon and be perfectly in line with your eye sight and stay broad is the way to go. Having the ability to see out of your peripheral vision at all times is great as well. Makes targets transitions so much quicker.

@tylertapp131

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Only difference here is I'm usin the fast mount with a holoson dot paird with a eotech g33 in the ftc mount.

@investigativeoutcomes9343

Жыл бұрын

;see car15

@EOTechN9ne

Жыл бұрын

You can stay broad and have great peripheral with co witness too. maybe my body type is different but I have both set ups and i dont see a difference in peripheral.

@eugenechurch6135

Жыл бұрын

Do you shoot at long ranges 2 3 400 yards? Or do u shoot on a 25 yard flat range? Seems being 2.25 would give some height over bore issues?

@tylertapp131

Жыл бұрын

@@eugenechurch6135 been wantin to just havent had a place to get out...most the shooting I've done with it has been in 100 yards with varying types of range.... up hill down hill all kinds like that, as far as that goes. It's just fine, just know within say 7 yards your just gonna have to get used to knowin to hold high. Not an issue at all. It becomes instinctive overtime, if you wanna make headshots within a dwelling or 10 yards, just put the reticle at the hairline or top of the head. Has always got me where I want to be and like I said its natural now.. personally I dont think I'll ever go back to any shorter optic hieght.

Sounds like another argument for me getting a 3.5 Led Acog with a forward mounted rmr. Nice video as always.

I think some of this comes down to your body and size. When I try to passively aim with my EXPS-3, I have to squish my head down on the stock in an uncomfortable manner. With the riser, I can keep my head up and comfortably shoot. I haven't put a lot of rounds through my rifle with this setup, but enough to know it works for me. On my AKS-74U I have the Zenitco B-18 mount with a Holosun and it is similar in height. I also tried to passively aim when my Perst-4 decided to puke it's battery cap on a NVG stage. It didn't go well. I only had my monocular for a month so I hadn't had as much training on passive shooting as I do now. For most people, this riser won't be a gamechanger, and for me it only adds a bit of comfort when shooting with NVGs. Is that comfort worth $70-90? It was for me but might not be for most.

ive been using the unity setup for an eotech exps3 and a g33 setup for awhile and I love it. with lower 1/3 i have to really choke down onto the gun and it gets hard to naturally aim with especially in armor. since I switched I've had no issues settling into a proper stance and sight picture whatsoever. i have a really long neck compared to some so that might be why.

I thought the 2.26 riser was stupidly high, so I went with the 1.93 riser Then I tried the 2.26 riser and fell in love, it just felt so much better for everything other than shooting prone

@mghegotagun

Жыл бұрын

Did you manage a cheek weld with the 1.93 or is it more like a gentle chin caress?

@TriggaTrey361

Жыл бұрын

@@mghegotagun they sell riser you can have a cheeck weld no matter what height you use

@pdxmarine1430

Жыл бұрын

@@mghegotagun 1.93 I had a cheek weld still, with the 2.26 it moves to more of the chin

This is perfect timing because I was looking at getting an EXPS 3 and magnifier. Was looking at the unity ftc too because my brother has one

I like my Riser mounts. I find it helps I’m with time on Target, comfort, and those two things combined seem to help with accuracy vs speed (in my head at least).

Never seen that DVIR laser before, definitely going to check out the review on it!

I honestly like the risers. I’ve got one on my NV setup and of course with NV it helps having the kore heads up chin rather than cheek weld and I’ve found I like it even when I’m not using NV. Only downside is it kinda kills backup irons. The other Unity risers let you still use them but not the Eotech riser. Not big on offset irons so still trying to think of a backup aiming system. Edit: this is where the Eotech reticle comes in handy for CQB or any other holds needed. Rather than guessing where to hold your dot above you can use the bottom of the donut of death

@breadm8101

Жыл бұрын

I love the riser for NVG but using it without that is kinda eh

exhales.... footwork. Freakin love it man, really curious about running one of these and love your insight.

My reason for using the Unity red dot mount is almost exclusively down to the fact I often have fogging issues with my rifle, and the Unity backup sight works with the Front sight post. But then again I'm talking about a light rifle used around my land more like a utility item than a gucci setup. It is nice to use with my PVS-14 but it's not really my main goal with that rifle. So for my purposes, it works really well and I don't even have to buy goofy looking canted sights / mounts.

I like using mine with a cheek riser and red dot on. I think you pointed out good reasons for why any prism or lpvo should be on a lower 1/3 height or 1.93 at the highest. Then maybe i can throw a red dot on top of that optic and have the best of both heights

I recently built a Desert Tech MDRX and utilized the Unity mount for the Eotech and flip ro center, and it helps with my cross eye dominance. If it were not for that handicap I would probably use standard mounts.

Good one as always! I love the unity on my... Oddly identical NV setup but then I go low on the long range setup for exactly the reason you mentioned. -Walsh

@BrassFacts

Жыл бұрын

there's really only one king for NV, and it's a eotech on a riser haha.

I’ve been playing around with taller mount setup for about a year and while I like on a short gun like my mk18 especially NV. I still use standard height mounts on all my other guns. I agree with your breakdown/review, it’s a niche setup.

great vid. I was going to get the unity setup know I'm thinking twice.

I like your point at the end about TacSwap

I thought it was a silly idea...then i gave in and tried it....and love it. Now every gun has some type of high rise rds. lpvo with rds on top, acog with rds on top front, high rise rds on short guns with qd mag.. Love em

I picked up a 1.93 and 2.26 mount, and decided on the 1.93. I always felt like I had a neck like Littlefoot but the Unity felt just a tad too much to me. The 1.93 didn't seem significantly more than the lower 1/3 mount, but just enough to be more comfy, and not be too outrageous in the prone. Bonus points is that with the spacers for my mount on a magnifier it still works with the 1.93 mount and I don't have to make the investment in another mount for it as well.

@beardly0121

Жыл бұрын

Bro don't even bring up Littlefoot. I miss that homie like you wouldn't believe. RIP.

So I got a Unity riser for my eotech and magnifier on the advice of a friend. Shooting passively with nods is MUCH easier now though the chin weld thing is annoying. Having SBR'd my gun and ditching my brace has help a great deal though and the addition of a Law Folder has given extra length of pull to help keep from banging my tube up every time I pull the trigger. All in all, like you said, it's a trade off but for a primarily night time use rifle it works well, better than without. Just found your channel BTW, subbed. I appreciate your content, thanks!

@Pantone268Plus

Жыл бұрын

Depending on what stock you have, you can always add a riser to it. That was a game changer for my CTR.

Facts. Brass facts, to be exact. I’m messing around with a unity riser for my EOTech and I still don’t know if I’ll stick with it. Nova’s face at the end is gold

Love your sarcasm and truth at the same time. I do run a Unity mount with my red dot and I love it! I’m 6’2 and for a tall guy it’s perfect. I also run a cheek riser to help with cheek placement.

@MylesKillis

6 ай бұрын

I was gonna say what about with that added?

Agreed. Tried one and a 1.93. I use lower 1/3 for red dot and 1.5 for lpvo.

I like this. I really really like the 2.26 height. Its been so nice for the past few years to me.

I've been using an ARMS QD 3/4" riser with a 517 eotech for years. Gives me around a 3.5" over bore center. Comfortable and natural for me. Might be a mental thing but i feel more aware of my surroundings at that height and my aging neck likes it.

I have both the ADM AD-1700-XLR Riser (with flip to side magnifier) and the Unity Risers. For me the Unity has the edge over the ADM simply for its cleaner field of view when the magnifier is not in use. It's not a huge deal, but the more I can see in front of me the better. If Unity made a mount for the HM3X I'd swap the ADM out as well.

I actually love my Unity riser (and the flip to center magnifier) Typically I only use the magnifier in situations where it is called for, so it rides in a pouch in my pack. I also don’t like having all that additional weight on the gun unless I need it Where I find the most value is in what it does to an inside 300 yard target with a 16” carbine firing 3100FPS XM193 and a 75y zero. The rifle becomes “put the dot on it and squeeze the trigger from about 35 yards to 250 yards. The night vision performance is awesome, as well

My only issue with the unity riser is that I loved it so much that I had to buy the fast mount for my aim point too. So I ended up spending more than double what I wanted after also getting the QD lever.

Correct about the cheek weld and magnifier points.

Recently I have been using an old upper that has the integrated carry handle. I have a rail mounted on the top of the handle and an aimpoint mounted on top of that. Its a super high mount but what I notice is that its a lot easier and more comfortable to shoot and allows for some interesting stuff like being able to shoot out of the right eye or left eye by canting the rifle. Likely never an important feature but if one of your eyes was damaged you could still operate the weapon out of an opposite eye without needing to change your grip. It has made me a lot more interested in these riser mounts. I feel a lot more cramped when I go back to a rifle with an eotech on it.

Imagine in a world where a half an inch gains the all inclusive name Tacticool!

@praharin

Жыл бұрын

I had to lose 30 pounds to gain half an inch.

Glad to see some nova footage again

It’s a must for passive aiming with night vision which I think is more important then we tend to think know that everyone has night vision

@FXIIBeaver

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone has NODs.

@yo9758

Жыл бұрын

@@FXIIBeaver I mean most people have them hell gang banger got them if don’t got them sell a couple of guns because they are a must that why US special forces used to be gods on the battlefield

@roberthutchinson2856

Жыл бұрын

Aint even a must. Exps stock height is super easy with nods

@poortac5568

Жыл бұрын

I can aim just fine under my pvs14 with an EXPS3. Honestly, a cheap UTG 1/2 inch riser raises the EXPS just enough to make it perfect. Its only $12 and J like the height better than the taller Unity options 🤷‍♂️

@yo9758

Жыл бұрын

Guess I just got a long neck then because I got the mount flipped around and mounted my comp m4 as far as I could out there in space

I have a XPS3 in the OG riser mount so its about 2.0" and its dope. handy for heads up every day shooting and absolutely required with a pvs-14. CQB is irrelevant because if you do that you are dead.

Yep - all valid points here. There will always be trade offs with mounts in general. So you just weigh those against what type and or level of shooting you "do". I actually prefer the Unity until I have had to shoot prone...That is it's achilles heel (having a 10rn mag accessible helps) and like he said - have that Chiropractor on speed dial.

Love the vids! Just one suggestion. When doing some room clearing, always clear corners, never turn your back to an open doorway that hasn’t been cleared and always check behind open doors. If you yourself cannot check behind, pin the door against whatever is behind it until a buddy can come up and peek behind with his muzzle. Done lots of room clearing in real life, just one thing that might help you out.

I’m rocking a 2.26 EXPS 3-2 on my 300blk with a primary arms range finder magnifier on a FTC. Still gotta get dope on it but finding a range long enough, with steel is hard 🙄 However, it’s been a super fun and comfortable build.

I like it for using the magnifier combo. Don't have to lean into the sight. Makes it easier to shoot with an eotech at night.

I like mine for one major reason: passive night vision use. I found it’s much faster and more comfortable than the lower 1/3 that I used to have. Have you tried a cheek riser on the stock? Would that help or negate the extra space created by the higher mount? Something to look into I think

Recently switched to a fast micro on my home defense carbines. Loving it so far. In my most likely scenario for using a carbine (home defense) the pros vastly outweigh the cons imo. Ability to stay heads up is awesome. Being about to switch from optic to irons without moving anything on the firearm is a nice placebo as well. Obviously cons exist and are even more prevalent in other scenarios. HOB/zeroing issues are obviously there. If shooting at distance is common for an individual, the pros and cons start to weigh in differently. Personally, I would rather be most setup for the most likely scenario I’ll find myself in even if that costs me in other areas. Scanning for intruders/family/dog/etc is much more helpful to me than engaging targets at distance so I’ll tend to lean that direction with my setup. But it’s completely understandable if someone’s goals are different. It’s always a give and take.

2 of my grandfather's fought in the pacific theater ww2. Both told stories of losing friends. They were both adamant about staying low and keeping your head down. They ditched bipod on the BAR for that reason.

@asphal.t

Жыл бұрын

Got it. Low crawl through shoot houses from now on 👍🏻

@benthephilosopher

Жыл бұрын

​@@asphal.t if you're a prepared civilian and are planning to do enough cqb to orient your kit around it you're gonna die my fren.

I like my 1.93" and see it as a much better compromise. I don't plan to go any higher than that. It still provides enough stability and situational awareness. It makes a HUGE difference when shooting with over the ear hearing protection and I want to eventually get NVGs, so both of those are nice benefits.

@vlun1215

Жыл бұрын

I have a small head so I probably would use the 1.93. I use the 1/3 and find it is ok coming from the old days of absolute co witness.

I got mine because I have a pvs-14 now. I can fit my eotech and flip to side G43 on the same mount no issue. Shooting it in alternative positions is fine. Hopefully get to shoot it to longer distances soon.

Just order mine, can’t wait

Thanks for the vid! Good food for thought, as I've seen more and more people jump blindly on to the "riser train" of convenience, of late

Great video! I’m just a budget buying poor but if anyone is interested in raising an optic up, UTG makes 1/4, 1/2, 3/4,and 1 inch picatinny risers. Not as sexy as unity but you can choose a height that works for your body type for 10% the price of a unity mount. I’ve used one on two rifles for the last three years and they’ve been steady as a rock as long as you loctite.

Fantastic discussion points...

You can get a cheek weld with a high mount with a cheek riser, I use the larue one on a ctr stock.

I bought a knock off one to see if I liked the height. I tend to find myself in a weird sizing for most parts where sometimes I would fall in a large fit category, but other times not. I find it nice when just using a dot and dry firing/mock clearing the house. On the other hand I also have tried using a larger stock (hight wise like the magpul sls vs a bcm sopmod) so I get a better cheek contact vs chin with a more upright head position. I think for me the best case use scenario would be strictly as a dot (haven't tried a 1.93 height however for comparison) without a magnifier on something like a 300 blk suppressed home defense. Anything like shtf or longer ranges I want magnification and a 3x magnifier won't cut it if a target is camo'd and/or in cover. So going with a LPVO for that load out.

I’d say it’s well thought out if paired with the magnifier mounts, that flip to the center mount is far superior in form compared to the stock flip to the sides or god forbid the aimpoint twist offs

@Danefrak

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with twist off I usually end up quick disconnecting my flip to side anyway

@whiskey11niner

Жыл бұрын

@@Danefrak exactly and thats less fiddly than the twist off

Running optics on an AK got me similar conclusions. Getting the optic as low as possible on an AK makes shooting alot more pleasant because of a nice cheek weld.

@jeffwilliams3436

10 ай бұрын

A general rule of thumb between weapon platforms. AKs need lower optics while ARs need higher ones.

I am new to AR ownership. My rifle is equipped with an Aimpoint CompM5 perched atop a Unity Fast mount. I am loving it! Feels very natural in my novice hands.

@davidhartley6232

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I DO plan to acquire a Unity flip to center magnifier mount. No. I don't plan on getting into night vision. However, wearing a gas mask during civilian maneuvers is a very realistic scenario.

@davidhartley6232

Жыл бұрын

Regarding magnification of RDS: if the mag is more often than not being utilized, then I feel a LPVO is better served. I feel that a RDS with mag is best served when the default is unmagnified and only there for "when needed" for PID or better precision at intermediate ranges. A do-it-all PDW/home "rifle". But that's just my ignorant dumbass talking 🤷‍♂️😂

Application specific for me. 200 yards and it, I like it. I've also got a jacked up neck, and the more heads up posture helps.

My favorite thing about the tall risers is people saying they use a 50/200 zero with their short ARs with their Unity setups

@jayellgee

Жыл бұрын

This makes me think that they don’t have access to a 100 yard range, or they would be very surprised!

@tristanhodgden4286

8 ай бұрын

Worked fine for me

@eightohnine23

7 ай бұрын

What zero do you use ? Asking for a friend 😂

@kalanipitmon7817

2 ай бұрын

I know with a 14.5 and a 2.3 it's like 50/250, what is a 10.3?

@davet3659

Ай бұрын

As someone who is new and getting into ARs, can somebody explain this joke? cause my 12.5 ARP is zero'd for 50/200 and I'm thinking about getting the unity riser for my RD lol.

there is deff its place, like you said - mainly CQB for that "natural" feel. But It can work for other people in different ways. I have a super long neck and would test out my eotech with no riser for 6 weeks, then go back to the riser for another 6 weeks. I did this for almost a year and i settled on leaving the riser on. I found because my neck has to come way too far down without it and it feels so unnatural. THe riser make me feel MUCH more natural when shooting and its on my gun now to stay and will be there for a while

For perspective, Eotech exps 2.2 is 11.2 oz + a G45 (5x magnification) is 12.8oz = exactly 24 oz. A Leupold Mark 6 (3x-18x) is 23.6 oz. And it can be illum with multiple reticles (like tremor) There are a few scopes out there that can out-magnify these trendy flippy single magnification units. I'd suggest people look at the VCOG or a solid (but light) LPVO, if they're wanting magnification.

@KyleSmith-bp2fe

Жыл бұрын

Completely different use cases. Nobody is using a mk6 for passive aiming with nvgs and most magnifiers can be removed if needed. I’m not throwing a 3-18 on a gun I would put an eotech on anyway

@nicholaspreston9586

Жыл бұрын

@@KyleSmith-bp2fe Hope it's an exps-4, then, so you get to 600yds, illum, NV.

@nicholaspreston9586

Жыл бұрын

@@KyleSmith-bp2fe "Nobody is using a mk6 for passive aiming with nvgs" Agreed. That's why I'd use an RMR w/ Scalarworks Kick or irons w/ tritium for a 3x shot. Or, just use my sidearm. Or, just not get caught in a 25yd engagement distance like an idiot.

@nicholaspreston9586

Жыл бұрын

@@KyleSmith-bp2fe I want every unfair adv I can have. Not satisfied w/ just an Eotech and would not run a Holosun unless I had to. Exception would be proven red dots, like the Aimpoint T2, because that at least is worth magnifying and tinkering with magnifiers. LPVOs are much easier, though, so if that's your standpoint, I'd agre.

@nicholaspreston9586

Жыл бұрын

​@@KyleSmith-bp2fe "Nobody is using a mk6 for passive aiming with nvgs and most magnifiers can be removed if needed. I’m not throwing a 3-18 on a gun I would put an eotech on anyway" Then how do you propose to positively ID your buddy in a SHTF scenario and avoid Friendly Fire? Not calling Eotech bad, but I'd either go 5x magnify and NEVER take it off, or go straight to a 1-8x, 1-10, whichever I could afford. Same with an enemy. Why not have as much magnification you can, then scale back if needed? Pretty sure most soldiers in Afghanistan / Iraq would LOVE to have their pick of LPVO's and MPVO's. I had to think about it a bit, but your point is stupid - you have every luxury - a veritable buffet of optics most soldiers don't have access to - and you're saying "brah, 18x is too much, brah". That's retarded, considering some mid-to-long range scopes are LIGHTER THAN SOME LPVOS. That was my point. I'd be happy to take your Eotech once you get dropped, though.

So would you not say that the weight imbalance of having a g33 magnifier flipped to the side on a standard mount? Same with the snag hazard aspect? I am about to get a g33 for my exps3-2 and would love your input. NV is in my future but not yet.

Nice Slate Black hand stop 👍🏻👍🏻

You mentioned cheek risers (the LaRue one comes to mind), do you think using one in conjunction with this setup has merit? Cheek weld + more heads up position, more room for nods. Would that be the best or worst of both worlds?

@BrassFacts

Жыл бұрын

I can only say what I've tried: I'm not sure. Frankly, a big part of why I like the unity: I don't need a full cheek weld A big part of why I don't like the unity: I don't get a cheek weld. When you put a riser on here I feel like you're just going in a circle. It works if only nods are your goal though, and it does solve a lot of the problems

@Bender_B._Rodriguez

Жыл бұрын

@@BrassFacts eh, 3 points of contact already, a chin weld if you need to stabilize your head sure. as long as you dont have mro paralax you should be fine.

@Muricanwerewolf

Жыл бұрын

I have the unity riser and a .5 South Carolina irregulars riser on the stock. It’s preferable unless I needed to wear a gas mask.

refreshing and insightful!

Thanks for the balanced reviews

@redmudpei

Жыл бұрын

Just to add, I find thehumblemarksman to provide similar balanced reviews, but towards competition style gear

You were born into a fractal life that requires cool training. I really liked your camo in the rocky environment.

Wont be ditching mine anytime soon, been runnin a holoson 515cm on the unity fast mount paired with a eotech g33 in the ftc mount for about 2 years now. Feels like home now if that makes since.. still running it on my sons of liberty 13.7 with a dead air sand man s and all the fun nightvision doodads. It's become my favorite setup I've ever done. Use that rig more then anything else, including for hunting. Last year I killed 3 coyotes 2 foxes and 2 beaver with it. This year I took two deer with it during season. The best zero I've found so far..... is a 57 yard zero no clue if anyone else has ever tested it out.

The flip to center is rather appealing in a profile sense, but I don't know if it's worth putting on my EOTech equipped rifle when I could QD the magnifier off if really not wanting it there

I cant speak for anyone but myself, but I've found the higher risers to be much preferred to lower ones. I definitely prefer the head and neck position, and find it much easer to bring my optic into position. As to a cheek weld, well...that's easily solvable with a cheek riser on your stock. Larue makes one that is spring loaded so you can charge your rifle without the stock getting in the way. I run the LaRue riser on an ar with a 1-10 razor siting on a 1.93 height mount and its perfect for me. gets my head position where i want it without sacrificing cheek weld. On an ar type platform, this is an awesome option. As for the height over bore effecting your overall holds, their are excellent bullet calculators that you can take a look at and find the zero that works best for your particular setup. Getting that 3 inch ish over and under zone can generally be accomplished simply by adjusting your zero distance to accommodate your setup optimally. Much like anything that is designed to interface with a human body, different ergonomic setups are going to be preferred by different people, but what works for one person best, will rarely work for everyone best.

Alternative perspective: I've messed up my neck through my job, wrestling, and several vehicular collisions...it's genuinely uncomfortable to cram down on most standard height optics for more than a minute or two at a time. Using one of these super high mounts really alleviates the issue even though I don't use nods (by and large).

I don't have night vision so I am fine with lower 1/3 height. I did try adding a cheap 1/2" riser under my lower 1/3 T1 mount just to see if I liked the additional height. Not a fan. But I did find that the 1/2" riser is perfect for my thermal scope.

Great video! 👍

The delta thirty four video about battle zero's was phenomenal!

@Jerkasaur

Жыл бұрын

Link please

@LeifyGuy

Жыл бұрын

@@Jerkasaur part 1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6WfrayyfdfWhqw.html

@LeifyGuy

Жыл бұрын

@@Jerkasaur part 2 kzread.info/dash/bejne/enp5j9mjZ9a1o5M.html

@EeZ3-808

Жыл бұрын

Agreed… I refer to, and watch it often trying to memorize the different heights and zero distances. Aloha! 🤙🏽

@LeifyGuy

Жыл бұрын

@@EeZ3-808 I started measuring my height over bore and using ballistic calculators to find my preferred zero

I think I needed to hear this

I'd be curious if the Magpul 0.75" cheek riser helps mitigate the 2.26 height of the Unity risers. Probably not entirely, but somewhat? I've been curious about the Unity riser solely for the fold to center. If you spend more time unmagnified than magnified, I would think fold to center would be preferable.