United Boeing 727-200 Departure from Baltimore BWI (1997)

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Taxi and takeoff from Baltimore/Washington Int'l Airport (BWI) aboard a United Airlines Boeing 727-200 to Denver. Filmed in April 1997.

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  • @jbrian80
    @jbrian8014 жыл бұрын

    The noise from the Boeing 727 is far more tolerable than any lousy popstars we hear on the radio today :D

  • @lrg8734
    @lrg87348 жыл бұрын

    Arguably the most beautiful jetliner America has ever produced. Also, fairly quiet ride at the front of the bus too.

  • @mattgrey7575
    @mattgrey75756 жыл бұрын

    My first ever flight: UA 727-200 BWI-ORD, back in June, 1984. I miss the 727 and the JT8D!

  • @TURKEYDAY2023

    @TURKEYDAY2023

    5 ай бұрын

    So do I my friend. So do I. Many great memories of flying during the heyday for my life. The 727-200 and the MD-80 mad dog. Man I wish I could go back and enjoy the location of being seated next to the engines on a 727 takeoff. I didn't know what a thrill that would be so quickly taken from my life.

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    I agree, The 727 ROCKED!! In fact I have a whole technical specifications booklet on the 727 that I downloaded off of Boeing's website and printed out, It's REALLY fascinating!! Unfortunately it doesn't look like Boeing is going to retrofit any 727s to 2010 standards, i.e 2 man crew and newer engines, Because they obviously don't think that would be feasible, It's really a shame too, I really liked the looks as well as the ride of the 727, It was so NICE!!!

  • @ford9572
    @ford957211 жыл бұрын

    No, You can still listen to radio chatter on flights, I was doing that on American on my way home yesterday.

  • @deepee999
    @deepee99914 жыл бұрын

    Actually, those 727 wing-slats, now standard-issue on all transport aircraft, were the invention of some Boeing engineer who studied eagles in STOL flight. I am not making this up. Get your hands on "Billion Dollar Gamble" which is a book about Boeing's development of the 727. Still the sweetest wing in the fleets.

  • @jetfreak4
    @jetfreak414 жыл бұрын

    I remember the last time I saw a United 727 in person. It was in St. Louis, October of 2001,about a month before it was retired. In the midst of all the TWA action (it had just been bought out by TWA), this UA 727 takes off over me. It had just taken off.We were about a mile or two SE of the airport, doing a community service thing for school. Boy was the 727 loud as fuck, even when it was hushkitted (this particular one was). Never saw another UA 727 after that.

  • @DowntownCanon
    @DowntownCanon7 жыл бұрын

    I flew the most I ever have in my life in 1997, and was on a lot of 727s.

  • @ThreeCharlieKilo
    @ThreeCharlieKilo15 жыл бұрын

    Oh, and I'm a student pilot and plan to have a career in aviation. I've recently been rethinking my plans on going to the airlines, and instead becoming a freight dog. It's the only place you can really fly the classics these days.

  • @frtguy80
    @frtguy8014 жыл бұрын

    I always loved taking this 727 to Denver on United, seemed like it went down that runway forever before rotating, but I would love it if they brough them back, good solid airplane!

  • @hundvonkrieg
    @hundvonkrieg11 жыл бұрын

    oh i miss listening to radio chatter on flights. I used to to that all the time when I was a kid.

  • @lanerailvideo5928

    @lanerailvideo5928

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too, hated that the got rid of that😞

  • @cgmd75
    @cgmd7515 жыл бұрын

    Wow, i remember these old birds, I was still working for UA at that time. great airplanes, miss them!

  • @bagelboi66
    @bagelboi6614 жыл бұрын

    On family vacations when I was little this was always my favourite bird to fly in.

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    I read that UPS repowered their 727s with quieter high-bypass ratio Rolls-Royce Tays.

  • @user-hs7fb5lw9u
    @user-hs7fb5lw9u Жыл бұрын

    Have never seen the front of rear engine aircraft view, thank you for your upload.

  • @w5pda
    @w5pda14 жыл бұрын

    I would gladly pay good money for a flight with this wonderful lady.

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    The last 727-200 I flew in was in 2000 on a United one. SWEET plane!!!

  • @derekwall200
    @derekwall2009 жыл бұрын

    I grew up flying on the Boeing 727. it was the one T-tail airliner I always flew on with United

  • @Slaterator
    @Slaterator14 жыл бұрын

    The ATC-feed is cool. I think all airlines should have a "channel 9" ! Great video. It is sad but a fact that the chance to ride 727 in 2010 in Europe is all but impossible. The only chance to get on a three-hole-jet is to catch a MD-11 from KLM or Martinair in the Netherlands. As far as I know, there are no other airlines still flying jets with three engines in Europe today. :-( So you have to visit the USA, Latin America or Africa to fly that classic jet´s... Thank´s for uploading !!

  • @herbergreen
    @herbergreen12 жыл бұрын

    I remember these takeoffs well. As a pax in the back on BWI-DEN UA727-200 flights about 4 times over the years I remember the long take off rolls from 28. BWI's elevation is 146 feet and runway 28 has an uphill gradient so that doesn't help either. There is an additional 500 feet available for takeoff if you cross over to taxiway victor "V" which is the "jug handle" taxiway to loop you to the end. Most of the departures are from taxiway "C" like this one to expedite traffic flow.

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups14 жыл бұрын

    It would be great to see a 727 with newer engines and a 2-crew cabin with EFIS. I wish Boeing would do this; the 727 was an absolutely AWESOME airplane!!

  • @WNDWSTIDN

    @WNDWSTIDN

    6 жыл бұрын

    dave4shmups i guess they might upgrade the cockpit if you want.

  • @delten-eleven1910

    @delten-eleven1910

    6 жыл бұрын

    dave4shmups: 727 is my classic favorite too, but part of what makes it a spectacular are those loud JT8-D engines.

  • @hashbrownburgeryt2120
    @hashbrownburgeryt21204 жыл бұрын

    Miss these so much. That sound!!

  • @MuerteQuerida
    @MuerteQuerida15 жыл бұрын

    The empenage of this aircraft is the most beautiful tail of any jet airliner, I love it

  • @473271
    @47327114 жыл бұрын

    United allows you to listen to the cockpit radio transmissions through the in-seat entertainment. It's called From the Flight Deck and it's on channel 9.

  • @GregChomko
    @GregChomko11 жыл бұрын

    I wish the camera had kept focus on the wing during takeoff. It would have bee nice to see some wing flex!

  • @pianomanmaestro
    @pianomanmaestro14 жыл бұрын

    Man he waited along to time to takeoff!

  • @robertbauers2210
    @robertbauers22103 жыл бұрын

    United was the first Airline I flew on July 1983 BWI-PIT-BWI Flight 473 to PIT 727-200 Seat 6A Flight 470 back to BWI also a 727-200 Seat 6F

  • @lanerailvideo5928
    @lanerailvideo59285 жыл бұрын

    Yes 727's were loud, but not as loud as a Concorde. My Step Dad worked for Northwest Orient in Las Vegas, & as such I was able to go behind the scenes a lot (escorted or on permission of course). 727's were there most common jet into Vegas. I remember standing in the open jet way, & a plane was pulling in, & at 250 feet away it was deafing, I had to plug my ears. Months later (Oct 1987 or 1988) Air France spent 2 weeks offering half way to Hawaii, & back Concorde trips. That time I was at ground level as it was pulling in & at nearly twice the distance it was equally as loud as the 727. That's an experience I will never forget. It's weird to now see that suspended at a museum, & to able to say I remember when it flew.

  • @antoniotownsell9550
    @antoniotownsell95502 жыл бұрын

    I miss the loud T tail jetliners that left a long smoke trail...farewell to the Boeing 727

  • @w5pda
    @w5pda13 жыл бұрын

    @superfestiva You don't know what you're missing, for you have not lived until you've heard the roar of the JT8D during a takeoff roll :-)

  • @jt8fan7272
    @jt8fan727215 жыл бұрын

    God I miss the 727s! Best aircraft Boeing ever made!!

  • @lbowsk
    @lbowsk3 жыл бұрын

    I flew it from the right seat. Wonderful plane from a pilot's standpoint, but like most transports had quirks and flaws. Relative to today's fans, then engines were underpowered, especially during takeoff. That coupled with a high-speed wing meant relatively long takeoff runs when compared to today's planes. Awesome feel and control authority. Solid and stable on approach. Zero automation. The autopilot was little more than a wing leveler with altitude hold. I'd fly it tomorrow if I could. I loved it.

  • @noonedude101
    @noonedude10115 жыл бұрын

    IND is my home airport. Formerly Weir Cook, now Indianapolis International.

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    Yep!! They still do it!!!

  • @Mysticlambo
    @Mysticlambo13 жыл бұрын

    nice video quality for the time ago it was shot. :)

  • @AccessAir
    @AccessAir9 жыл бұрын

    This is one of United's older 727-222 Unadvanced aircraft. I can tell by the engine sound.

  • @gendaminoru3195

    @gendaminoru3195

    6 жыл бұрын

    -7B ?

  • @ErickC

    @ErickC

    9 ай бұрын

    @@gendaminoru3195 : it doesn't sound like it, from what I can hear. The further forward you are of a -9A or later engine, the more they tend to sound like a -7B as the harmonics that normally dominate the spectrum in the later engines seem to decay a little sooner with distance. But I can still hear them, albeit faintly. I'd wager the overall difference in sound is related to the different bypass ratio - if you've ever heard a JT8A on an A-4 or A-6, they sound much more like the later JT8D variants, while the -200 series sounds a lot more like a JT8D-7B. This tells me that some of those harmonics get suppressed as the bypass ratio increases, and I'd wager this explains why a JT8D-9A tends to sound somewhere between a -7B and a -17R as its bypass ratio is right in the middle of the range.

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering the same thing!! Probably MAGIC!!

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    Likewise, 727s RULE!!

  • @delten-eleven1910
    @delten-eleven19106 жыл бұрын

    The sequenced leading edge slats was an interesting feature of the 727.

  • @christopherescott6787
    @christopherescott67876 жыл бұрын

    Love that leading edge.

  • @skyguy414
    @skyguy41414 жыл бұрын

    United's audio channel 9 feeds atc from the cockpit. At least they used to, not sure if they still do.

  • @MEETTHEJERSEYANS
    @MEETTHEJERSEYANS15 жыл бұрын

    continental air and newark airport!! me home!!

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    @frtguy80 I would LOVE it if Boeing started making the 727 again and especially if United brought them back into their fleets again!! With a modern 2 man "Glass Cockpit" and modern high-bypass ratio turbofans, They'd be AWESOME!!!!

  • @ford9572
    @ford957213 жыл бұрын

    It's a long way from Baltimore to Denver It's a long time to hang in the sky, It's a long way home to Starwood in Aspen Oh, My Sweet Rocky Mountain Paradise, Oh, My Sweet Rocky Mountain Paradise. John Denver.

  • @crapper1
    @crapper111 жыл бұрын

    Jt8d my fav powerplant

  • @ford9572
    @ford957213 жыл бұрын

    @willineus2011 Same here!!! The 727 is very simply the VERY BEST!!!

  • @frtguy80
    @frtguy8013 жыл бұрын

    @superfestiva Very slow, i used to fly on this United 727 to Denver all the time and it was always dragging down the runway, especially taking off out of Denver coming back

  • @w5pda
    @w5pda14 жыл бұрын

    @hearts76100 No, although there are still a few in operation around the world. If memory serves, I believe FedEx still uses a few of the freighter versions.

  • @bmacleod52
    @bmacleod5213 жыл бұрын

    Nice video but that garbled noise in background takes away from the engine noise.

  • @Pandacapricorn
    @Pandacapricorn13 жыл бұрын

    I remember United used to have gates in Pier A which is now Southwest

  • @garry795
    @garry79514 жыл бұрын

    Nice memo. You'd be hard pushed to find a flight on a 727 today.

  • @DELTA1978THETA
    @DELTA1978THETA13 жыл бұрын

    @skyguy414 United Airlines still has Channel 9 for ATC. I love hearing what is being said!

  • @AV8R4HM
    @AV8R4HM13 жыл бұрын

    @skyguy414 They still do. I flew them this summer.

  • @presstrigga
    @presstrigga13 жыл бұрын

    ohh nice flight attendant...very nice..what a nice fella lol

  • @skyguy414
    @skyguy41415 жыл бұрын

    Some United flights feed ATC communications to passenger audio channel 9.

  • @RainbowManification
    @RainbowManification14 жыл бұрын

    @skyguy414 as of 3 years ago they still did.

  • @frtguy80
    @frtguy8013 жыл бұрын

    @pianomanmaestro Yeah heavy with fuel going to Denver! it always took a long time it was scary, I flew on this flight I cant tell you how many times headed out to DEN, It was a good old plane I miss it, but the 757 can rotate so much quicker

  • @seemonpaeste8354
    @seemonpaeste83543 жыл бұрын

    wow long time ago

  • @ryanbelden7088
    @ryanbelden70888 жыл бұрын

    only thing now that comes close to this is a 717_200 doesn't have the extra engine but it sounds almost identical when taking off

  • @delten-eleven1910

    @delten-eleven1910

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Belden: I think the MD-80's are the closest to 727; they have JT8D engines like 727.

  • @delten-eleven1910

    @delten-eleven1910

    6 жыл бұрын

    No, that would be the MD-80s which had PW JT8D engines as 727, but with a larger compressor fan.

  • @ErickC

    @ErickC

    9 ай бұрын

    @@delten-eleven1910 : the JT8D-200 sounds completely different than the earlier JT8D engines (I'd guess -9A or -11?) on this airplane. They sound somewhere between a JT8D-7B and the generic "scary" tritone sound effect used in horror movies. The BR715 is a totally different engine, but its sonic characteristics are somewhat close to a later small-fan JT8D in the lower RPM ranges - a little closer than a JT8D-200 but not by much.

  • @mainer48
    @mainer4813 жыл бұрын

    @superfestiva not after it begins its climb,the rate of climb is fast

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    I think John Denver might've received his Type Rating in a 727-100 but I'm not too sure of it.

  • @737go
    @737go15 жыл бұрын

    how did u get the cockpit voices?

  • @Helicopterpilot16
    @Helicopterpilot1613 жыл бұрын

    @superfestiva No hush kit! I wish I could hear a jet without a hush kit for once! FedEx has removed the 727 from the MSP route so I will probably never get to see one!

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    They did.

  • @Yuseichaaan
    @Yuseichaaan13 жыл бұрын

    @skyguy414 they had it way back then too?

  • @ecoRfan
    @ecoRfan8 жыл бұрын

    Long takeoff roll! Slow climb rate too for a pretty short ride. Must have ripped down the runway for 9000-some feet.

  • @frtguy80

    @frtguy80

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was even worse taking off out of DEN with that altitude, I remember it going over 10k feet before rotating and that was before the 16k ft runway was built out there

  • @ecoRfan

    @ecoRfan

    6 жыл бұрын

    DEN is a mile high which makes everything take off longer. Crazy that from maybe 100-200 feet though in moderate temperatures on a short-medium flight it'd use that much runway. Now had it been a 757 (the 727's replacement, and among the fastest takeoffs) it would have been much shorter and steeper.

  • @joelt4416

    @joelt4416

    6 жыл бұрын

    BWI to DEN isnt exactly a "short ride"

  • @ecoRfan

    @ecoRfan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I said "pretty short". It's about 3 hours and 20 minutes which isn't too short, but not too long either.

  • @ecoRfan

    @ecoRfan

    4 жыл бұрын

    @reverse thrust Yeah sounds like you got weight restricted, so they couldn't fully fuel the plane. Was this old Stapleton or current DIA? Nowadays it's less common that something has to get diverted for that reason, especially with DIA's 16,000 foot runway.

  • @mehmetokay7073
    @mehmetokay7073 Жыл бұрын

    Allegheny in 1997? What airline had that call sign?

  • @91Snyder
    @91Snyder15 жыл бұрын

    only plane like this left is the Northwest-Delta DC-9 fleet :(

  • @crackaddict444
    @crackaddict44412 жыл бұрын

    was this plane in the Battleship Grey livery or the Rainbow one?

  • @AckbarsFist
    @AckbarsFist14 жыл бұрын

    I think that was DHL, although UPS may have done the same :-)

  • @Helicopterpilot16
    @Helicopterpilot1613 жыл бұрын

    2 people flew a CRJ

  • @FSXMovies
    @FSXMovies14 жыл бұрын

    @473271 Next time I'm flying United from Frankfurt to NY :D I didn't know that :o

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    @steve60610 April 1997.

  • @ford9572
    @ford957214 жыл бұрын

    I think they followed DHL's lead.

  • @ThreeCharlieKilo
    @ThreeCharlieKilo15 жыл бұрын

    Nope, still doesn't ring a bell. Are they for passengers or for cargo? Do you mean UPS? Because I googled TPUS and it didn't come up with anything...

  • @ryanbelden7088
    @ryanbelden70888 жыл бұрын

    didn't it have a headlight on the forward flaps if I remember can someone tell me thanks

  • @gerardmoran9560

    @gerardmoran9560

    5 жыл бұрын

    The 72 had 4 landing lights. 1 at the wing route on each side and one in each of the outboard Krueger flaps.

  • @MISSIRES
    @MISSIRES15 жыл бұрын

    why did you heard the atc??

  • @familyguy958
    @familyguy95813 жыл бұрын

    @skyguy414 ik this comment was a year ago but yeah they still do, captains discretion

  • @ThreeCharlieKilo
    @ThreeCharlieKilo15 жыл бұрын

    What's TPUS? And yes, it's a sad era of aviation when you've got planes like the A320 in which the computer does most of the flying.

  • @MrPaki1996
    @MrPaki199614 жыл бұрын

    @skyguy414 wuau i woul like to hear that

  • @ford9572
    @ford957212 жыл бұрын

    @meccaturbo It was good when it WAS the best!!! Who knows? Maybe today's planes will one day be seen as ancient and onsolete like the 727 is.

  • @Blime2913
    @Blime29136 жыл бұрын

    Well never have I seen SLATS Soo depressed & Expressed on an aircraft before, thing of the past - one just doesn't see such Slat expression on now days modern super critical aircraft.. now days very very little slat expression is needed on modern super critical wing, the slightest gust or brisk headwind an minimal engine power is all that needed to saw now!!..

  • @FmAm25GuitaRskateR
    @FmAm25GuitaRskateR15 жыл бұрын

    no i think asiana airlines or korea arlines let u listen to atc too.

  • @joelt4416
    @joelt44166 жыл бұрын

    flaps deployed during taxi.

  • @w5pda
    @w5pda14 жыл бұрын

    @jbrian80 I hope you don't mind, but I tweeted your quote :-) Paul In KCRP

  • @meccaturbo
    @meccaturbo12 жыл бұрын

    @ford9572 Old technology, not the best anymore.

  • @ThreeCharlieKilo
    @ThreeCharlieKilo15 жыл бұрын

    Oh, you mean American Airlines? LOL, I have never heard it refered to as TPUS before.

  • @ford9572
    @ford957211 жыл бұрын

    @hundvonkrieg Same here!!! I can't believe they don't do that anymore!!! That just FLAT OUT SUCKS!!!! Why the HELL did they stop making that available!!!!??? Probably some stupid FAA regulation I guess.

  • @hotrod869
    @hotrod86915 жыл бұрын

    JFK is my home airport. its pretty f#$%@!g big

  • @richarddx22
    @richarddx2212 жыл бұрын

    The longest takeoff run ever. I don't think I've even seen an A340 or 747 take this long to get off the ground, on a 16 hour flight. Was he only using two engines or something?

  • @dan39888
    @dan3988814 жыл бұрын

    @skyguy414 Im pretty sure they dont (or at least in england) but im pretty sure you would either get bored or crap yourself because the pilot is shouting MAYDAY MAYDAY

  • @mainer48
    @mainer4813 жыл бұрын

    I miss the B-727-100/200 flew them many times, to bad thhefolks living around airports complained about noise like they aslo did to the B-737-100/200 if you dont like aircraft noise, you shouldnt build near a airport or buy a house near one as well,jets were supposed to be loud on the outside,thats why they were call jets! bring back the 727,same bacisc design but instead of three engines, make it a twin jet

  • @TheUtuber999

    @TheUtuber999

    6 жыл бұрын

    mainer48 Stupid idea. Bet you voted for Trump.

  • @LSp8

    @LSp8

    6 жыл бұрын

    The stupidest idea is to build or purchase near an active airport with jets taking off and landing all day and night. No need for airlines to spend unnecessary money on crap to make planes quite and dull because people didn't have sense enough to buy and build away from the airport. My friend lives near BWI and we love watching them and guessing the sounds to match the aircraft type

  • @ErickC

    @ErickC

    9 ай бұрын

    I think the complaints are probably less about takeoffs and the people who live near the airport and more about landings and people who live rather far away and are still under the approach path. For takeoffs noise abatement makes noise not really much of a problem. But airplanes (especially older ones with less power) need to use a lot of thrust at low speeds and might be making considerable noise even 20 or 30 miles away from the airport. I live in Hastings, on the approach path to MSP, which is about 25 miles away - and it's right at the point where they start dropping high lift devices and powering up. They're pretty low around here already. I don't mind the noise, and I actually really miss the DC-9s and MD80s flying over my house, but I can see how some people might. Nowadays the closest thing to the old jets I get to see is the odd 717 or MD11. I used to see MD10s but those are gone now too. It's all Airbuses and 737s now. C-130s are about the most excitement I get around here these days!

  • @ryanbelden7088
    @ryanbelden70888 жыл бұрын

    that's when flying was safe as he'll not know your at your own risk

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