I am not surprised Dave is moving on after his stroke and his last performance review. Working in an aggressive “what have you done for us lately” sales environment with little to no stability is not for everyone and certainly not for anyone with health concerns. To me, Dave was the most personable & relatable of all their sales reps. I wish him all the best in his future endeavors.

@spionkop7874

8 ай бұрын

Good luck Dave, gonna miss u brother👊🏾👌🏾

@JoeyJiggles

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree. I don’t understand how a company that is doing $200MM in revenue has so much pressure. We get it - sell watches. Chill out.

@mikemendez1465

7 ай бұрын

@@JoeyJiggles That is how they do so well. Sales is not for the faint of heart. I did it. Hated it and found another profession.

@JoeyJiggles

7 ай бұрын

@@mikemendez1465 we’re you passionate about what you were selling?

I grew to be a big fan of Dave, so it's sad to see him leave LB but I wish him nothing but health and success in his next role!

Man seeing how Adrian babied Alex when he said he went through all these personal issues and blah blah blah. But yet didn’t seem to give a crap about Dave having a STROKE, you can see they aren’t being treated equally.

@jacobitosuperstar

7 ай бұрын

is just a stroke, nothing mayor. That happens, you just pick yourself up and hustle like nothing has happened with no recovery time or anything. Fuck his unique selling experience and his health, sales or out.

I had two great buying experiences with Dave and I'm sad to see him go but totally understand health concerns. I wish him well.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

It's definitely sad. Thanks for the support!

Somewhat contrived segment with Dave, he brought a different degree of thought and experience among the sales team that will be missed. Real message being, "sell or be gone". TIP: customers will select and stay with providers that deliver client care and display compassion for clients (like CRM, Watch Eric, Wolvyn to name a few that do this relatively well). Be careful to live by or define your brand by "big sales" and "top performers with crazy numbers"; it's not sustainable nor admirable in clients eyes.

@JoeyJiggles

8 ай бұрын

Very well said

Sad to see Dave leave, but understandable with the stress of trying to hit quotas in this tough market. Health comes first!

Dave is too sophisticated for LB, he stands out like a tablecloth in a McDonald’s

I love Dave, its been a joy to watch him on episodes and he will be missed greatly. I know what ever he does he will be successful and Dave if you're reading this, I wish you the best of luck for the future and great health! God bless and continue to shine bright!!

Could tell in last week's episode that Dave wasn't in it anymore. Don't blame him one bit for looking to make a change, especially after his health scare. Good luck Dave ( if you see this). You will succeed, no matter where you go.

What a thoroughly lovely man!! I wish you every success in the future Dave, what a class act you are!!!

Dave please make your own KZread channel I’ll glad follow your content I’ve learned so much about watches from you in particular your knowledgeable and should not let your talent go to waste good luck on your future brother stay happy stay healthy 💪🏽🙏🏽

So well spoken … very impressed. This guy has some real depth and breadth. Best of luck …

Best of luck DAVE you're a good dude. Wishing you the best of success in your next chapter.

Dave, you are a great guy. I wish you good health and all the best in your new journey ❤

as a fellow swiss I am pretty proud of dave. Big respect to enter such a high pace environnement in a foreign work culture. Swiss office culture is definetly something else than hustling at LB!

Dave is great and very knowledgeable, I bought several watches from him and I referred other friends of mine. Customers who receive great service become loyal and follow the salesperson. How Dave was treated is a direct reflection of their character and how they feel about themselves. They patronized Dave. I don’t care what any CEO has to say who sits at the top in their thrown, they are not the end-user customer who has a real-time perspective. I hope Dave creates his own YT channel.

Sales can be brutal! I wish you luck Dave in your future endeavours.

Best of luck Dave. Best wishes for a happy and successful life

Bought several watches from Dave, referred a very important person in my life to him and he was wonderful. Sad to see him leave.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. Thank you for the support!

We love you, David. We want to see you open your own place! Put these haters in their place. Seriously, best of luck, and I can't wait to see what you do next.

Slogging your life out for the bosses! A lot more to life than this, good to see Dave getting out.

@AL95621

9 ай бұрын

Yea Roman and Adrian both POS ‘s for this move. You Have to tell people that one word they don’t like hearing ! NO! Wish Dave all the best !

Avi, David, from my perspective, did a good job. He handled his exit interview with humility and grace. I really wish him good health and success in whatever he chooses to do next in life. Godspeed David! Alex has grown alot since his first day there, he has a great understanding of the business, L.B. is lucky to have him. The transparency of your videos are outstanding, thanks Avi.😊

Good luck to you Dave !!

Takeaway, buy what you like and can afford. I see Alex hesitant to name drop some brands when he said the more unique pieces will come back into trend and appreciate. Many micro/independent brands were not affected 'much' during this adjustment. Another sign for new watch enthusiast to stop chasing your mainstream Rolex. Shoutout to TAGs and IWC in the past year. such a good buy in the grey market.

The Grey Market Pod was def cool. However, this new style is 1000% better. Please keep doing this.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Amazing to hear it!

Match your used Rolex to retail list price, or come in below it. You'll see a flood of sales come in. Time to change the paradigm on Rolex. My money is all in short term CDs now earning between 5% and 9%. Why in the world would I invest in a Rolex or any luxury watch? The message grey market dealers need to get is, yes, buyers are still out there, they have shit load of cash. BUT, they're not about to throw it all away. We demand value for our capital.

Good Luck Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sad to see Dave go, a different personality and style in the group. He'll do great wherever he is going.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Agreed!

Which video are they talking about? I cant find the one where they talk about Adrian and Dave. Please someone link it here 😅

DaVe, wish you well Brother,.... you are going to do amazing things in Life...KeepOKeeping. MadLove&Respect.

The days of retail buyers flipping watches and making money are over. The COVID super cycle was a once in a lifetime experience. Just buy what you like and want to keep

Noooooo, I'm gonna miss Dave. Best of luck on your new venture and take of your health!

So basically y’all gave this man a stroke

Alex 3 years ago watches were double the price how’d they make out they lost half

Best of Luck To David. He will probably crush it If he works at an AD at a slower pace and Less Stress

Dave is great, he will have learnt a lot at LB, this will be good for him. Staff turnover is also hard for a business and can be disruptive. Be happy because it happened. As I understand it, the Rolex Grey Market and the underhand Rolex ADs that have taken backhand payments for sales to "preference sellers" have probably impacted the whole market. Again, just my opinion many retail prices are too high and are not supported by the Grey Market value, the market will see Retail Dealers starting to discount pieces again.

All the content with Dave has been great! I will miss seeing him on the program.

Man I’m so sorry to see you leave you are hands down my favourite apart from Anna .Dave I believe you are making the right decision here bro I just wish you good health Dave .good luck for your future thanks for the memories Dave .love from New Zealand 🇳🇿

I wish Dave well. Sales is a grueling job and when your not physically well; in can be extremely taxing on your health. Without your health you have NOTHING. God Bless.

Sad to see Dave go! I really liked him and wish him the best!!

Dave was going to be fired after the holiday season regardless. I would have not shown up for work and never called. I would have ghosted them! Ruthless LB. I’ll never ever buy a watch from them again. I’m actually ashamed I’ve purchased 2 Rolex watches from them. After seeing how they did so many sales people dirty

@greymarketpod

8 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear you feel that way.

I dont know how much this effects the watch market but what about the recession period we’re in right now. Or even the wars going on I’m not very knowledgable about sales and markets id assume it plays a factor as well.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Last episode touched on that, no real effects.

Watches have a bid and an ask, like securities. There is a spread that those that constantly trade in after a short period need to understand that they will absorb. That spread, maybe not as defined as it is in securities trading, is the margin of the seller. Watches are not short term investments. If you treat them as such, without being a retailer, you will lose far more than you make.

I had a great buying experience with Dave. While watching this video, I immediately shot him a text. Great guy. Sad to see him go.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Same! He will be missed.

Dave u right : health first. With LB experience u can achieve anything

What did we learn form the awful feedback in the performance review? Let’s do an exit interview….

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Wait for the 1 year reunion of his exit interview.

@MrNoBody_b

9 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpodthat’s really funny. Just remember what goes around comes around.

@MrNoBody_b

8 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpodwhen will you guys do some interviews with a former/ present Rolex AD employee LOL

Crazy it happened so fast after the other video, he was definitely demoralized after all that. Sucks he was at a steady 800k sales, had the stroke and sales cut in half :/

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

An event like that changes how you see life.

@ccholten123

9 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpod agreed 👍🏻 changes what you want in life and perspective 100%

I give Dave props I could never work in a environment like that

Which is the Dave video?

Dave, legend!

@David. i wish you the best, i think we all do!

I think the podcast format was a great idea. weekly, Knowledge dump i would refer to it.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! Really appreciate the feedback.

@williamglahn

6 ай бұрын

I agree this podcast style is more interesting then some of the banter between people

which episode was the performance appraisal ?

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHeYlcyLoay2e8Y.htmlsi=3bWuZcgPNzJZA_fG

basically, he wanted to leave before he got fired

Love Alex’s comment about the biggest “watch diller” iykyk 😂

"How far down can a 15500ST go" Alex was not around when 15400's traded for $13,000 and the blue dials were $17,000. That wasn't a decade ago either, that was 2017.

good luck swiss dave, regarding buying/selling, you should buy on a falling market and sell on a rising market. Those whove sold in the 2 years made good money . Hold onto the watches , let the greys take the hit over the next couple of years then buy. As an idea of when the market is at a low, base it around a panda, historically traded at 1.75x ,currently trading 2.25x , so when you see pandas at 1.75x , then buy

Seen this coming a mile away...poor guy. Much love Dave

@claudtalkz2194

7 ай бұрын

Don’t pity. Look at his Zen confidence in the moment. There was a turd in the punchbowl after that chat. He used it and turned it into the next best opportunity- customized to his needs. Poor Dave, Nah, Bruh

25:30 finally….genuine watch people are well aware of this and most have probably been out of pocket on a watch or two over the years but if your lucky some appreciate too…long term game…….I’m glad the ‘“investors”and “flippers” are dropping out of the watch market🙏

Wish you the best, Dave!

Good luck Swiss Dave

Missed the podcast!!!

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

We're back!

Yeah that performance review “scene” rubbed me the wrong way. I mean it’s getting more and more obvious when bits are artificial or staged I mean… these aren’t actors lol.

Best of luck Dave...Adrian should have never acted like that in your performance review.

Saw this coming after him being in that last video with Marco. He was clocked out and didn’t care

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

He cares, just his health took a priority.

Are commissions based on sales or margin?

@Thisthat1234

9 ай бұрын

I believe margin

@paytah3373

9 ай бұрын

Some places are based on sales ( revenue based) or margins (sales price - cost). Would guess based on the razer thin margins in the watch industry, they are paid off keeping those margins higher than just the dollar amount you sell.

I don’t think the added pressure of a warning was conducive to a less stressful environment after a life threatening experience. Managers and owners in the sales business of any kind are just cold blooded couldn’t care less if your mother died. But if your sales decline as a result they are on your back.

Just like the old Bill Goldberg t-shirt used to say in WCW… “Who’s next?” 🤷‍♂️

Rolex is losing customers. This explosion exposed the terrible business practices involved to way more people and buyers have moved. Obviously not all, but I don’t even consider Rolex anymore. I’m not going to be treated like shit by an AD to spend $30k or have to pay grey market guys double. lol nahh man, I’ll just buy different brands.

Dave is just as good as Marco in my opinion…. Dave I’ll buy a watch from you any day….

LB is trimming down during these hard times. Who is next to go Kevin or Alex?

Dave, your a classy good dude. Good idea to get yourself away from those 2 clowns. Also, your rocking one of the best sport watches out there that most people don’t even consider. UN Marine Chronometer 43mm ( UN118 Movement) All the Best.

Wow I missed that he was leaving although I saw something on Reddit about it. Nick has his own watch channel now.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Will only be public in tomorrow's Grey Market video.

@douglasslifkin4924

9 ай бұрын

Time for another game show to find a few more sales guys lol

Noooo not Dave leaving 😢

Crazy I would of never guessed a watch dealer would say to buy right now despite the market still having plenty of falling left to do lmao.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

How much do you think and are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?

@Lakesidelegends

9 ай бұрын

You have no way of knowing what the market is going to do. Drive your 1990 Honda and zip it.

@TheBajamin

8 ай бұрын

@@Lakesidelegendsit’s not hard to figure it. Interest rates are still insanely high. Inflation is still rampant. Debt is growing. Banks aren’t loaning. Commercial property is still dying. And the dollar is weaker by the second. If you know anything about business, you know almost ALL of those things need to not only slow but rebound before people will have disposable cash for shit like $75k watches.

@1990HondaEFHatch

8 ай бұрын

@@Lakesidelegends your reply is going to age like whole milk. keep that same energy in six months.

@1990HondaEFHatch

8 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpod I will put your company's evaluation on the line that you fire another employee soon.

Why are people surprised with the softness in the market? I am just surprised it took this long for people to realize that paying 30%-70% over MSRP for ubiquitous pieces is financial illiteracy..

@TheBajamin

8 ай бұрын

People always knew the crash was coming, it’s a game of hot potato where everyone thinks they won’t be the one caught.

Is Adrian trying to run Luxury Bazaar? You can feel Roman is trying to change it and if giving it to Adrian you will see their brand be potentially hurt long term if he focuses so much on short term sales data. I think this is Adrian’s mess. Roman will need to step back in. Clients are noticing.

translation, watch market is dead, people are bailing

i remember in one of episodes few years back Roma said he never fired anyone, i think that might have been an under-statement. totally appreciate the transparency. these are case studies on what to broadcast. you did great with this one, keep doing it! I just wanted to take a moment to say how amazing your video was! I was really impressed with the quality of the footage, the editing, and the overall presentation. You did a great job of explaining the topic in a clear and concise way, and I learned a lot from watching your video. ;)

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great feedback! As a company we have terminated people here and there but it's very rare.

Dude had a stroke and Adrian want's a million dollars in sales from him.😂😢

No Sales No Money! OMG! The watch market slowed down "big" time!

Tough part of any business is seeing good people go. God has a plan for everyones walk. Watches are cool but it's not the reason we are here.

Fire the dude interviewing David! This is the first podcast i am listening too because I know David from Roman"s channel. Have Adrian and Anna create a similar channel to Romans and drop a video each once a week. Fire the jibroni wearing the puffer jacket for the podcast exit interview!

@greymarketpod

8 ай бұрын

Good call, I’ll just quit then. Thanks for the advice.

@sgerway7236

8 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpod We and LB would be so lucky if you did

Big Dave- stay classy and good luck! Alex- you used to be light-hearted and funny and now you seem so sad and miserable. I hope you get your spirit back.

Man. If I had the money to buy a bunch of watches, I’d walk in and ask which sales person has the least amount of sales this month, or on average. And then use them to make my purchases. And every time I would repeat and use the least performing salesman. Because it’s not the personality. They see these people you focus on and tend to attract more towards them. I want to help the guys that are stressed about their performance based only on sales because they don’t get the like light like you offer to others.

The crazy watch market is over rover.and may never come back. People have moved on to Tulip Bulbs.

I wasn’t a fan of Dave early on but he’s a nice guy

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

He's a great guy!

@user-mi7ez5zg6y

9 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpod definitely grew on me

Everyone is hurting, ADs, Grey, Wholesale. Just like I told you 3 months ago. If your buying watches for even or plus investments, why would you buy on the down swing. The market will move with the economy all together.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

You know the saying... when there's blood on the streets, buy.

@miamijames

9 ай бұрын

Is Root beer sell or. A Buy?

@micahtyler8415

9 ай бұрын

No they say buy low sell high. Your crazy if you think we are close to the bottom. Inflation is going up and nobody wants the T bonds at low rates. Grey market buys and sells in up or down markets but there are times to hold depreciating cash equivalent assets and there is a time to NOT!!@@greymarketpod

@paytah3373

9 ай бұрын

Watches aren't investment tools. People MAY make money on them, but should be acquired based on your enjoyment of the piece, not whether it will go up or down.

@micahtyler8415

9 ай бұрын

Literally everything is a sell if your actually going to need the money for anything other than enjoying a beautiful watch!@@miamijames

Potential to be Great?He made the Show and your Business Great

Selling watches should not be that stressful.

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

Selling anything is stressful. That’s sales.

@TheBajamin

8 ай бұрын

Over a decade ago I sold cellular phones to businesses, it’s brutal. I was a top earner (awards and shit) but I got burned out. Commission based selling is a terrible industry. Owners have to put up minimal risk (no paycheck) while you have to CONSTANTLY sell shit to pay your bills. It’s easy when the market is hot (like when the iPhone came out). But once everyone has one and the money/interest isn’t there, good luck.

Can’t sell can’t keep up pack your stuff easy as that!!

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

If it was that easy you would do it.

@lucorrez9991

9 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpod who’s to say I don’t do sells myself my boy! I don’t sugarcoat or fluff sells is sells. Why homeboy dipped right?

Well, as predicted wolf of Wall Street wannabe with his public sales review pushed Dave out, not surprised, I hope karma gets him !

The world is in a real crazy plc. What about that teacher that saved the 15-20K for that Rolex now he or she is worried to spend that.

@Lakesidelegends

9 ай бұрын

Then they shouldn’t spend it. They should be wise.

I’m gunna stop buying from LB. They seem toxic af…

@greymarketpod

8 ай бұрын

Stop?

@lawfulryan3

8 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpod Yes. I’ve bought two Rolex’s from LB this year so far with Anna. But, I’m super turned off by putting employees on blast on a public platform. As an aside, I also was very unimpressed with the to the TPG controversy response video (now deleted), which only made me more uncomfortable with buying grey market.

Mr mm-hmm mhm

Lets be honest he was sacked for not performing up to lb standards ,also sales are down prices are down and profits are down and sales staff are earning less

@paytah3373

9 ай бұрын

He wasn't "sacked" at all. He left on his own. If he WAS sacked, he wouldn't have been brought back in to do the podcast.

@misterzero8667

9 ай бұрын

Sure he did

@greymarketpod

9 ай бұрын

He was an awesome part of the team and he was definitely not "sacked".

@paytah3373

9 ай бұрын

@@misterzero8667 ok bud.. 👍

@paytah3373

9 ай бұрын

@@greymarketpod 👏👏👏

I train (high-performing) sales executives. He is not a salesperson. Better suited for a customer service role.

@byrong1561

9 ай бұрын

That’s a very blasé and judgemental (dare I say lazy) conclusion to come to. By his own admission the cut throat culture of an environment like LB may not be an ideal fit for someone like Dave, but that doesn’t mean he cannot operate at an elite level and be ‘high performing’ in sales There are many sales environments with longer lead times where his consultative mindset could prove to be very successful. He is also personable and likeable, which is not something i would necessarily say about a person to make such condescending comments.

@thatbusinesstrainer1414

9 ай бұрын

@@byrong1561 not a blase, nor a lazy conclusion. Simply an experienced assessment from a highly experienced professional. His being personable and likable doesn't negate the demonstrated lack of skills and self-awareness needed for high-level success in that chosen profession (sales executive).

@byrong1561

9 ай бұрын

@@thatbusinesstrainer1414 With the greatest of respect, you are talking nonsense brother. It’s crystal clear Roman doesn’t suffer fools lightly or carry dead weight for long in his business. Nonetheless he stuck by Dave when plenty of other salespeople were culled. (It’s obvious Dave left of his own accord as opposed to being covertly fired as they wouldn’t bring him back in just to record a podcast ) Like myself,Roman obviously sees something in Dave’s business development skillset that you cannot despite your self proclaimed experience Also how you come to the conclusion that he lacks self awareness when he is clearly one of the most contentious, intelligent and self reflective people in the team is beyond me….. but each to their own Don’t get me wrong, I am no particular lover of Dave’s sales approach but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value and cannot be very successful in the right sales environment

@byrong1561

9 ай бұрын

@@thatbusinesstrainer1414 it’s also worth mentioning that Dave stated in this podcast he has been in sales all his professional life, which must easily be 10+ years given his likely age. He should feel grateful he didn’t encounter too many discouraging sales trainers like yourself in his career journey to date

@thatbusinesstrainer1414

9 ай бұрын

@@byrong1561 I'm sorry you feel the need to put me down...like it's somehow my fault Dave isn't a top-level salesperson. He may have 10 years IN sales, but frequently we see people who have one year of experience...simply repeated 10 times. (no growth). A sales trainer like myself, would have moved his skills up...or moved him out. Either way a better result than just allowing him to fumble thru sales, always moving on to the next gig (where he hopes to be more successful than the last gig)

What a lovely guy. ❤

LB does it right tbh . keep the standard high to have people leave instead of firing them.

This podcast was to get viewers back on LB’s side, but don’t think it worked to be honest. Have respect for the company, but is going downhill in terms of a toxic work environment at the moment.

@greymarketpod

8 ай бұрын

What's the LB side?