Hey Frozen, nice to see you out and about again. I'll catch up when I can, RR.

Thanks FD. Good stuff!

Aaahhhh…I always wondered on the Vardon part. So I see why I would over compress, as I called it. More great info.

@frozendivots1564

6 күн бұрын

@@DennyForrest-pk4kh yes and you can also ‘B torque’ from there as I call it. Once it gets below the elbow a handle torque will also get the clubhead going up. Less power there but you should get ball first contact. The real power is in the torsion arm. Either way the degrees of freedom dictate it. We work relative to ourselves more than the ground.

@DennyForrest-pk4kh

6 күн бұрын

Well I am pretty sure you are alot stronger then I am so is there a strength advantage to one over the other?

@frozendivots1564

6 күн бұрын

@@DennyForrest-pk4kh do you mean relative to a splay vs Vardon vs karate chop etc? It’s more about ‘throwing’ into compression and the timing of that. I have two people I am helping that under 5’7” maybe 150lbs and not very strong who are now hitting their 7 irons 190-ish. They gained distance by changing their swing. Does strength help? Yes, for sure. But that should be relative to your goal. Want to drive it 300 and shoot low scores vs driving it 400. I would think the goal is to gain distance thru efficiency and 300 will be enough to play and score well on any course. If you want more, then hit the gym. But the swing doesn’t change. Just choose what fits you. If it’s pure power, you won’t beat the splay done correctly at that time in the motion. But that’s not needed to bomb a ball or shoot low scores.

@DennyForrest-pk4kh

6 күн бұрын

This video is what I needed. I just hit a bucket of balls and now I know why some were too steep or trapped. I can’t thank you enough. I’ve learned more in the last few days than the last 10 years with other instruction.

Just came home from the driving range. Lot's of compression and a penetrating flight with my P wedge. Maybe half the height (medium height/2-3 bounces and stop) I'm used too- which is high/soft. The sound ... oh the sound. Can't even compare - so different and "loud". Still have to work on the splay. Not easy to implement, but I'll work on it :)

@frozendivots1564

6 күн бұрын

@@PeteR-ji8ik the splay is a high derivative so it’s gonna take some time to do it in the arc because you aren’t used to the acceleration there. You’ll get it. The splay is good for about 15yds more per club, roughly. But just work on the Vardon or something to get used to getting the club under that trail elbow. Thats keys. You’ll make that a habit then adding the splay will be easier.

@PeteR-ji8ik

6 күн бұрын

@@frozendivots1564 That was my thought as well. The problem I have when try to do the splay - is that my hands out run the shoulder torque (kind of like flipping the wrists).

@frozendivots1564

6 күн бұрын

@@PeteR-ji8ik yes, high speed you are not used to, especially where it happens. But you’ll blend it soon enough. It took my youngest a few weeks, my oldest about 3 months and yet one their friends got it in about 2 days. Different for all.

@PeteR-ji8ik

6 күн бұрын

@@frozendivots1564 I will get it. No doubt about it. Thanks a lot FD. Looking forward to the next video :)

How does one go about getting access to or involved with the email group? I have always been a big fan of Lee Comeaux and have spent four hours on a cold late September morning in Chicago with Michael Broderick. Thank you for sharing such great information and now going back and watching the original Lee/Rock videos, you can see him talking about and demonstrating the compression move.

@frozendivots1564

6 күн бұрын

@@punkjazz1962 my email is frozendivots@gmail.com Several groups going and I can add your email to one. Lee and Michael are very good and I alway recommend them along with Bradley Hughes and Jon ‘Lagpressure’ I’ll have to dig into the Rock videos but Lee was all about compression in reach. I think he’s changed, or so I’m told. Not sure why.

@garre71

5 күн бұрын

Do you start compressing( turn the clubhead out)earlier with the longer clubs. Thinking about Dan Altons instructions..or do you go below elbow with every club?

@frozendivots1564

5 күн бұрын

@@garre71 always below unless you want more trap.

Can you do your whole golfswing in slowmotion? So i can see when club goes up in motion. Feels like the club should kind of stop..

@frozendivots1564

3 күн бұрын

@@garre71 I’ve never heard that before. When are you thinking it would stop?

@garre71

3 күн бұрын

Hmm, I know it do not stop but when clubhead goes up compress) i want to turn my body. I know you don't want that to happen. You have show us how to do it. But I guess I need to see the whole motion to grab it..

@frozendivots1564

3 күн бұрын

@@garre71 your trail shoulder works counter to it which mean the shoulder goes forward. The shoulder joint goes forward. That doesn’t mean the entire upper body swings around.

@garre71

3 күн бұрын

Ok👍