It's great that Murphy Surveys offered to help with this, I suspect that there is a huge amount of similar data that would be of historical interest which is just lost as never published.

Your lost waterways videos actually inspired me to investigate a lost waterway local to me here in Troy, NY. For my birthday last year, my sister got me a reprint of a map from 1852 of Troy. It showed a brook going right through my neighborhood... Turns out (after some research,) when my neighborhood was built in the 1870's (including my house,) there was a brook running through it that was covered with a brick culvert about 3' high, then backfilled mostly with iron slag from the Burden Ironworks. Given how if I dig more than a foot down in my back yard I pull up iron slag, and my section of the neighborhood floods rapidly during heavy rains, I think my house is built right over top of the brook! I think I know the general direction it goes in, since I could see air bubbles coming up out of the ground in a line during a flood this past summer. Topographically, it mostly lines up with the brook detailed in the map from 1852.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thats great. So pleased the video inspired you to uncover that history in your back yard. I bet not many people knew of that waterway ?

@shaggyman5811

5 жыл бұрын

Wow lol. Sounds like a job for a civil engineer. I'd be worried about sink holes and subsidence.

@someotherdude

5 жыл бұрын

The air bubbles during times of flooding convinces me. I think your hunch is right. I live near Bridgeport, CT and there are multiple covered brooks and rivers. I'm dying to check them out. Good, clean boy-style fun for this 56 year old. The environmental damage that is done when these brooks are covered over is huge, and it contributes to flooding downstream, because water flow is then unnaturally fast. Wildlife is cut off from the best (riverine) habitat. It's a shame.

@katherinekinnaird4408

3 жыл бұрын

How interesting. From Bakersfield California USA

@patriciacollier128

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, it is so interesting isn't it and interesting to hear your story too!

Someone please give this guy a TV show development deal , it would be a great show

Better than Star Wars, and unlike Star Wars I can't wait for the next episode. Excellent Martin!

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

😀Thanks 😆👍

@scottrowland7448

5 жыл бұрын

Martin is the Last Mancunian?

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

@@scottrowland7448 😆

@scottrowland7448

5 жыл бұрын

@@MartinZero but with a better story that doesn't break canon! Keep up the good, essential work

@ronr.53400

3 жыл бұрын

ahhh yessss Captain Kirk giving his analysis of the journeys day .. as Spock hides in a doorway pondering a mistress 😚 👍

In the late 70’s I was at Manchester poly . We went to Juicy street with station approach on the right and a building on the corner . Behind that building I sat for hours doing plate etchings of the lock gate to the canal . I presume what your saying is it’s been built over now . Later in 1983 I joined granada tv and at the back of studio 12 in the old building it’s still there .There is an entrance down to the canal with steps down which will still be accessible. I’m sure that’s Shuters brook . If you look from the gardens towards the old granada building , the left corner is the back of studio 12.. I hope this helps . If you need more info on how to get in just let me know.

Hello Martin. You ask about the "dam" near 30:00. That construction looks like a fairly standard "combined system" overflow point. Many cities including Vienna (very old) and Vancouver (very new) have combined sewage and storm drain systems. The intent is for each system to be separate, but to back the other up in the case of heavy flow in one. Dams like the one you have here are intended to allow fluid from one system to spill into the other when the level of fluid gets high enough on one side of the dam, and in reverse as well. The objective is obviously to not have to construct BOTH systems to handle extreme situations as long as the combined system can handle any expected load. It's penny pinching...smaller tunnels are cheaper. Any two systems can be "combined" like this, as long as the products they transport are compatible. This could include canal water and storm drain water, sewage and storm drain water, or any other combination of things that flow underground. Yes, you probably guessed it, "combined" systems are potential problems, which can result in normally harmless storm drains suddenly spewing sewer effluent, and any number of other interesting prospects.

@holdfast7657

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I believe that there would be a sewage system on the other side and as you say this would have an overflow outlet to this dam. I think that it is no longer in operation as nowadays we do not like our sewage poring into storm water / freshwater. More than likely sometime in the past it was blocked up.

@blahfasel2000

5 жыл бұрын

An alternative might be that it is an underground retention basin, as it is right at the point where the tunnel cross section reduces considerably. I'm no expert, however I know of an underground river in my home town where they have been renovating and replacing the tunnel over the last few years. It mostly runs along streets, so they could open up the whole thing and basically build a new tunnel on top of the old one, however there was one section where they decided not to use an open method as the street there is lined by hundred year old trees that they would have needed to remove completely, instead they chose a method where they put a fiberglass liner into the existing tunnel (I heard somewhere that this method was actually used here for the first time, can't really confirm that though). However, this meant that the cross section was reduced, and thus they had to construct two new underground basins to buffer peak flow during heavy rain. There were some pre-existing retention basins as well, and I found it quite interesting how you can completely hide such large structures in the middle of a city (one is for example beneath a multistorey car park, and I walked along there every day without ever noticing it until I read about it in some newspaper article about the tunnel renovation). The renovation was quite a feat, here is a short video (in German, but I think you can understand the animations without understanding the text) about it (it was produced during the planning stage, so unfortunately no pictures from the actual work being done): www.bielefeld.de/ftp/videos/luttersanierung/luttersanierung.mp4 What's neat is that they decided to partially open up the river in some stretches. While most of the water will still run in the underground tunnel, there will be a small open stream running along the streets. Other parts that were already opened up in a similar fashion a few years back can be seen in the video I linked. Another interesting thing is that they found remnants of the old medieval city walls when they were digging a new tunnel beneath a busy intersection.

@rasungod0

5 жыл бұрын

@@blahfasel2000 When I hear German, Dutch or the Nordic languages spoken aloud It is almost like I should understand it because it sounds similar to English. Cool video though.

I'm a complete river nerd! I'm so glad to have found this channel!!!!!

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

That makes two of us and thank you 😃

Its amazing how these places are relatively modern(in scope of humankind) and yet still their lost/unknown. Shows just how little we know about history. Keep up the awesome work brother!

Martin i am from Lees in Oldham, a part where the River Medlock runs past an old pub called the bridge, but is now a DIY store, ive done a few surveys on that part of the Medlock, and the water itself is almost crystal clear, and shockingly in that area within the valley between Salem and Alt , it has an almost neutral PH. would you be interested in meeting up some time and having a bit of an explore along the earlier stages of the medlock down from strinesdale through to alt, my Grandad, used to work as a builder on all the factories in that area, and has an extensive knowledge of lees as its where my family has always been, my grandad feels it very important to pass down his local knowledge Lees

@jayh9529

5 жыл бұрын

Shaun Dalton that looks like a no to me

@thrand6760

5 жыл бұрын

@@jayh9529 guess so :D the saying goes though dont ask you dont get

@jayh9529

5 жыл бұрын

Free R kelly beep boop

@mattlay

5 жыл бұрын

I'm also from Lees, I'd love to see a video of where the Medlock rises in Strinesdale and following it's course through Lees

@AndrewFree

4 жыл бұрын

@martin zero did you not reply to this.....

An absolute tour de force Martin, and that's not an exaggeration! Brilliant video, as I have said before your efforts are greatly appreciated.☺👍

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Ian

I accidentally found your videos. Absolutely love them and the history you give us from the other side of the ocean

I have watched a great many of your videos Martin, and find them all equally fascinating. This one however takes your excellent video journalism to a whole new level, and I love the fact that the conclusions are left hanging in the air. I really hope that you will continue to pursue this topic more in the future.

Well you started the ball in motion I'm sure we can get the answers this summer I work at pin mills in Manchester if you need a hand with anything I will be happy to help. I have a RC boat maybe put go pro and torch we can see 20+ meters in.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Good idea. I think the levels are up at the moment but that would be great

Yet another great video, only stumbled on your channel a few weeks ago but managed to watch about 50% of your films up to now and thoroughly enjoyed every one. 'Thumbs up' to Murphys and Andy for allowing the use of their knowledge and footage. That would have been an expensive job funded by others so its great that it has been allowed to be shared and not just archived. Good bit of well deserved publicity for them as well.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Stew yeah very pleased they shared the info it was very unique and valuable. Thanks for subbing and watching 👍

Very cool video indeed......maybe the best yet!

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Owen

I am from the US. I absolutely love your videos. I love how you take interest in your town. Keep the videos coming. And I wish you the best success in your adventures.

I love you channel. stumbled across one of your videos and got hooked. I have always found the waterways on old maps in my city interesting. sad that they got covered up by development. sometimes found by a sinkhole opening up and swallowing a car. Cheers from the USA

Couldn't stand it any more, had to subscribe! Never been to Manchester, hell, never been to the UK, though I feel I'll always recognize the accent, thanks to you, Martin. Fascinating video- now, all you need is a robot and a damn long coil of wire...

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hello thank you very much for subscribing. Yep a Robot and some string 😀You should come and visit Manchester 👍

@MrLargePig

5 жыл бұрын

Someday, @@MartinZero.

Brilliant Martin!👍 Using chrome maps 61 metres takes you to the manhole on whitworth st. 81 metres then gets you to what would of been start of Leamington St, where shooters was culverted over. Maybe it’s a sharp right turn into Dukes or the Princess St Victorian sewer from there. Hence the dead bricked up end, which would be basement for 61 whitworth where leamington once travelled. Makes sense. Right outside my office. 👍😄

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Bloody hell you've been doing some research there. I could do with finding those Manholes

@jomays7280

5 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks. Brick wall at 30:00 looks to be a storm overflow weir. All fascinating. 😄👍

Absolutely enthralling video. Again. I reckon there will come a day when your work will be neccessary viewing in historical education. Thanks for posting.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul 👍

@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt

5 жыл бұрын

Il 2nd that pal!

@pattyfarghaly1821

5 жыл бұрын

Very true comment.

This has probably been answered already but the following is about the manhole public art installation in london road. “Journey”, for example, is a public art installation sited beneath the approach to Piccadilly Station on London Road in Manchester. Commissioned by the Manchester Central Development Corporation, the piece consists of three tall bronze relief panels and a pavement lighting feature. Diane Gorvin, Phil Bews, Terry Eaton and I worked with students from Shena Simon College to create the panels that were cast by Castle Fine Art Foundry. See the site Tracey Cartledge Artist at traceycartledge.wordpress.com/about-tracey-cartledge/

@RustyWalker

5 жыл бұрын

Additional: "Journey by Shena Simon College students near Piccadilly Station," "A street poetry tour of Manchester," Poetymology, Jul 13th, 2018. poetymology.com/2018/07/13/street-poetry-tour-manchester/

Brilliant video Martin. You have surpassed yourself. Seriously interesting all this underground exploration. Great help from Murphy's 👍👍The round grid thing near the station..someone somewhere will have the answer or clues. Your following is increasing so you never know who is watching and they just might get in touch. The only downside is now having to wait for the next video 😢 Loved the music too ,very atmospheric. 💖💖

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Anne. It did mention Sheena Simon college on the round glass thing

Those manhole access chambers are so massive they must be on a map somewhere. Possibly lost due to records going up in flames after bombing in the 1940s or maybe in a box file in a dusty, neglected corner of some archive. Everything had to be drawn so they must have existed at some stage with a good chance of being somewhere out there.

@Raveneffect1989

4 жыл бұрын

It's not impossible that some records still exist, however the building near the docks where records were stored as said above was bombed and then a separate fire in the 1950s destroyed even more of the records.

OMG what a fantastic video I felt like fast forwarding the film but I didn't . You have got to work with Murphy's again just imagine what things they survey . Can't wait for the next one Martin . It's better than Time Team .

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul. I have asked to work with them again 👍

I loved the video there brilliant documentaries you need to become a TV presenter the way you put things across and the sound of your voice is just perfect and you leave us wanting more. Keep up the good work I'm really looking forward to the next one, thanks for sharing the videos much appreciated

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. 😀👍

@Stop..carry-on

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree , I’ve been watching martins backlog of videos , one of my favourite KZread channels

Amazing Martin. Didn't realise all this was beneath Manchester. Great videos and love your channel. 😀

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Andy, all that underground 👍

In the years I worked for the town where I live we used Fluorescein dye added to the flowing water of " mystery " sanitary sewers and storm drains to determine the flow path and exit point . Dye the flowing water at the last access point in the brook and have spotters watch for the neon green water that would appear where the brook enters the river . Always worked for us .

Another fantastic social history video Martin and well done to Andy and Murphy's for sharing their information. I can see a trend developing here for your videos gaining the Q dos that people in authority are recognising. Bring it on.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hopefully Steve, nice to get opportunities 👍

You do realise you're keeping me up late, when I'm on early shift tomorrow 🤣 Another fantastic piece of work. Simply superb.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much. Sorry, get to bed 😆

45mins went so quickly! awesome film and i reckon that a future mission in the vicinity wont be far off. amazing, and thanks.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Nik. See what turns up eh 😃

Just one of an invaluable series of films relating to our industrial architectural heritage. Thank-you.

These vids have become a fascinating source of history.The day I set foot your city, I'll be like a kid in a candy store. Thanks for your diligence and never ending creativity.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hello thanks very much. Don't leave it too long 😃👍

@christopherescott6787

5 жыл бұрын

Believe me, the sooner the better. Cheers mate.

Well done Martin, great work fella. I’m almost inspired enough to start my own channel covering bygone Leicester. Really impressed with the old railway stuff as I do the same sort of snooping and exploration walking in a different time surrounded by nature taking over, what an industrious people we once were, also really loved the Lowry connections you did, I think we must see things very similarly as I can see the genuine excitement when you know you’re onto something and want to get the significance of it accross....... I do it all the time with the missus, I can’t help myself lol. Can’t wait for the next one, all the best👍

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Martin. If you go out doing similar you should youtube it, Surprising how much people are interested 👍

Still playing catch up as I am a recent subscriber.....a fascinating and enthralling video.....lost for word really and having watched this twice still find wanting more.....thanks for posting......

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, very much appreciated, 👍

This is really great, I'm enjoying these videos so much. I lived in Manchester in the mid '80s and remember reading a newspaper article back then about the aging infrastructure of Manchester and with so many of the plans and maps from Victorian times lost in the war no-one knows much about what is underground and roads were collapsing without warning and the resulting holes were measured in DDBs.....double decker bus. So a hole one DDB in size would swallow a double decker bus. Apparently holes of 2DDBs were not uncommon. Really this all sounds amazingly fanciful now, but I am sure I didn't dream it up.

Wow!! Excellent footage. I came back. for this ten out of ten

There are a couple of more direct canal interest, one that appears as a wharf just above lock 91 on the Rochdale which is actually an opened out tunnel that went from the Grocers Warehouse on the Bridgewater to their yard on Bridgewater Street, until the Rochdale was dug and cut through the tunnel. Another is Bank Top tunnel that was built to take water from the Ashton canal, to the River Medlock, before the Rochdale connected up to the Bridgewater. There were some claims at the time that it was built as a navigable sough but I doubt that. It was supposed to have been abandoned because it silted up but there is no evidence that that ever happened and it was rather unlikely that Egerton and his chief engineer Gilbert, would have allowed that to happen. The Bank Top tunnel was definitely built and used by the Bridgewater, again to serve a shaft up which coal boxes were lifted to a coal yard near what became London Road (PIccadilly) Station. A commemorative mug was produced illustrating the site, and there is also documentary evidence. There was a gate for boats in the Medlock weir above Castlefield. The tunnel subsequently may have become the route for water off the Ashton, though the canal's opening was tied in with the opening of the Rochdale locks in Manchester, which opened before the rest of the Lancashire section of that canal. In 1765, when the Duke of Bridgewater opened his canal from Worsley, the Manchester terminus was at Castlefields, almost a mile from the centre of the town. (It is important to remember that canals were built on cheaper land away from the centre of towns, and that this influenced the subsequent development of commercial operations) In order to bring coal closer to the town by boat, the River Medlock was made navigable up to a point near the junction of Princess and Whitworth Streets. (The passage in the weir above Castlefield is well documented and illustrated) From there a tunnel was dug in 1787 some 649 yards towards Piccadilly. At Shooters Brow, close to Piccadilly Station, there was a coal yard connected to the tunnel by a shaft. Coal was raised in baskets from boats by a winch. The tunnel closed around 1805 after the opening of the Rochdale Canal, the coal yard then being served by an arm from the canal. farm9.staticflickr.com/8191/8085469504_803b1ffbc1_z.jpg First of all, the coal yard that saw the termination of the Bank Top tunnel was not the Dukes yard, it was the wharf of Knowles and Son, colliery owners. It was situated in the Ashton Canal basin, the part later covered over by extensions to London Road (formerly Bank Top) station. It was not the yard served by the arm shown on your map, it would have been around that parcel of land numbered 297 (?) to the east of London Road. The Bridgewater terminated at Castlefield not because of the cheapness of the land (hardly a factor in those days) but because to have taken it further would have meant building locks and finding the water for those locks. The entrance to the tunnel to Bank Top can still be seen on the North bank of the Medlock at the rear of India House on Whitworth St. Only the top of the arch is above normal river level, which suggests that the river has silted up considerably in the last 200 years.I can't remember where I read about this tunnel but it was said that 2 boats of the "Starvationer" type were discovered just inside around 1880 when some civil engineering work , possibly for the construction of India House, was being carried out. As an aside, the aqueduct on the Ashton Canal at Store St was originally over the Shooter's brook, not a street. The brook is now below the street and still provides a conduit to take water from the Ashton Canal via the Meadow St trunk . This was used when the canal needed to be drained but also to prevent the Rochdale Canal Co receiving any surplus water from the Ashton. According to plans held by United Utilities it appears that the tunnel originally exited either under India House or under the not yet built Whitworth Street. The plans show an offset to the tunnel in the last fifteen or twenty yards before it enters the Medlock, the remainder of the tunnel being in a dead straight line. So yes, you could say that the present outlet is a rebuild but it was built to match the demands of the day rather than the original demands. There are now two tunnels on this line, and, historically, the confusion arises because Shooters Brook was covered shortly after the Duke built his tunnel, and subsequent discussions have often not differentiated between the two tunnels. There are several letters published in the press in the 1870s from which this confusion emerged. However, the Duke's estate records concerning the land purchased at Bank Top, state that: The Duke made an underground tunnel along the course of Shooters Brook in Manchester, to convey coal from his Canal at Manchester to Bank Top, Manchester. Contemporary maps show the coal yard as in existance prior to Shooters Brook being covered over. On the former, the Duke was short of miners as he did advertise outside of Lancashire for them, so perhaps did not employ that many building the tunnel, which was not the most important part of his canal development. On the latter, there was some suggestion that water from Shooters Brook was used to drive a water wheel for raising coal at Bank Top, though I have no definite archive material on this. If it did happen, or if the tunnel was used for water off the Ashton Canal, the flow would have been in the wrong direction to help loaded boats, so they relied instead upon legging. The coal wharf site circa 1785, before Shooters Brook had been covered over or the Rochdale or Ashton canals built. farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8093668858_496d331988_c.jpg farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8093669360_da42159d1a_c.jpg This shows Shooters Brook in 1854 after it had been covered over, with several 'eyes', or openings to the surface. Only one is shown on the Duke's tunnel, though there could be more, or it could be the only one besides the main shaft at the end of the tunnel. By this time, of course, the upper section of the tunnel could have been filled in or collapsed. Note that the Duke's tunnel level was below that of Shooters Brook. farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8093689093_38d8d0c844_c.jpg The copies of the Duke's deeds for the Bank Top land show that this was purchased specifically as a terminus for the Duke's tunnel from the Medlock to Bank Top, and not for any other purpose. There are enough reports of boats being abandoned in the tunnel for them to be taken seriously, but that doesn't prove that the tunnel was built solely or even primarily for navigation. But that would have no effect on the tunnel, which was already in use for carrying coal. The Duke only had limited rights to water from the Medlock as there were existing water mills higher up the valley which would have needed taking into consideration. The Ashton would have used their water supply as a negotiating tool with the Duke, though they would need some way of loosing excess water coming down their canal into Manchester. The Duke's aim was to control all traffic between Manchester and Liverpool, so the narrow Ashton was not a problem as narrow boats could not work down the Mersey, so goods would have to be transhipped; a wide Rochdale Canal was. An agreement with the Duke could have been one reason for the second proposal for the Rochdale being for a narrow canal, though cost was another factor. The Rochdale looked at several different schemes in Manchester, including a link to the Mersey & Irwell, though the Bridgewater was in the way as an expensive tunnel would have been needed if the Bridgewater was to be avoided. They also had plans for a cheaper route to the south of Castlefield, but both they and the Duke must have realised that a junction was the logical solution. Permission was only granted by the Duke after it was agreed that he build and staff the final lock, no 92, on the Rochdale, and that a toll was paid by all boats passing, and that he had the right to all water off the Rochdale. When the waters of the Medlock became heavily polluted, a trunk was built from above lock 92 to beyond the stop lock at Hulme, providing clean water off the Rochdale for the main sector of the Bridgewater. Canal proprietors used a variety of stances during negotiations with other canals, often with detailed provisions required in their Acts. However, in general, they used the cheapest solution in practise, only using the provisions as a bargaining tool for future negotiations. Hence, the Ashton and Bridgewater may have used the use of the existing tunnel as a water route during negotiations with the Rochdale, but in practise surplus Ashton water would have passed onto the Rochdale and down to the Bridgewater that way. The Rochdale locks in Manchester were built with a smaller fall than other locks on the canal in order to reduce water usage in central Manchester. They realised that these locks would be heavily used, and made adjustments to meet the problem, without relying upon water from the Ashton. Bank Top was a proper tunnel, like Preston Brook etc. Very few have heard of Bank Top Tunnel, it extended the Bridgwater Canal from its junction with the Rochdale to a point near Piccadilly Gardens. Shooters Brook/Dukes Tunnel images imgur.com/a/f3iFGGJ

@yankeeclipper4326

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome info. Thanks for sharing

@1dayfree

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so muckh for your incredibly fascinating post. I lived in Granby House on Granby row for many years in the 1990's - 2003 and was always fascinated by the medlock and the canal and tunnel systems around that area!

Martin, Good morning, Sir! Just recently found your U-toob channel ,and it is absolutely top-class. I found it, strangely enough ,on the same day some pix were posted on a Facebook group I am in - "Manchester Victoria then and now"- had some images posted to it of Red Bank sidings. I had been wondering if the brick footbridge was still there,and was preparing to go and have a look. Then I saw your vids of the place. I was very pleased indeed,especially as you've explored the Cheetham Hill branch ,another I intended to investigate.Pleased,too , to see you found the base for the signal gantry ,that is very significant to me and a lot of my mates,for reasons various. I spent many happy days in that siding and shunter's cabin, on the Red Bank pilot ,and it was redolent with nostalgia for me. I have just retired after over 40 years as a train driver, and during my time I've been based at several sheds ,2 being Newton Heath and Vic. I REALLY get what you're about! Also ,back in the '80's ,Ihad the Ashworth book ,and did a very small amount of lost river malarkey ,nothing like the effort you've put in! It still fires me up now, as it does with "our kid". He's my twin and still works as a driver for Freightliner Intermodal at Crewe. I only retired to care for my missus ,who's had a bad run of luck with her health ,and she too, isvery impressed with your work, and she's not easily impressed, I can tell you! I recently watched your 45 minute Shooter's Brook vid,and if that is'nt a broadcast-ready bit of quality programming ,I don't know what is. Never apologise for inclusion of railway stuff ,although I'm biased! There's a lot of local interest in railways,and some of the tales I could tell....... most seemed to involve beer and/or skullduggery! Anyhoo ,keep on doing what you do ,my missus says you're due your own TV series, and I can't argue with that. All your work is superbly done. I particularly enjoy the drone footage. I have 5 of the damn things and dread losing any of 'em . Shame about your Mavic. Bet that smarts,eh? Woulda been nice to see a successful outcome to the magnet-fishing escapade, although it would likely never work again ,at least you'd have a memento ,and a reminder to engage brain before operating . As I often don't ,so who am I to comment!! Finally ,can I take slight issue with the gasometer in the "Mordor" vid? It has buggered up my Feng-Shuei something rotten ,I can not rid meself of the idea that the gasometer that was behind you ,the one still extant ,at the start ,is not the one in the aerial pic , as that one is ,or appears to be, on the North side of the Phillip's Park/Ashburys freight branch . I accept I could be mistaken ,if so ,I need to sort this out in my head for the sake of said "chop suey"! In conclusion,award yourself a beer or coffee ,for services to intelligent programming. Great stuff ,indeed. Nigel Hebblethwaite.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

NIgel thanks very much for your comment and kind words. please send my regards to your wife. The Gasometer in 'Mordor' is not the Gasometer from the drone footage. They are close together as you will see on google earth but the one I droned was at the bottom of Briscoe Lane. Hope that helps. thanks again

@haroldhorseposture9435

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, Martin! Thanx for the recent posts ,I admire your determination to get out in all weathers. Really enjoyed the Bloom street powerstation one, never even knew it was there. Had noticed the footbridge from Whitworth street many years ago , but never thought anything of it . Just have to say ,I've sorted out the perspective of the gasometers in the Mordor vid ,so I can sleep at night without cold sweats! I will have to go and have a peep at that powerstation, will combine it with a peruse of the central library , and a gawp in the Refuge Assurance building, assuming I can get Her Ladyship's wheelchair around these places. Top work again! Nigel the Heb.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

@@haroldhorseposture9435 Thanks mate enjoy your tour. Am sure you will get in the Refuge, have lunch in there

Fascinating stuff. Every time I get into this channel I remain glued to the spot.

Epic mate , so fascinating to see what lies bellow the streets

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mike

@GgZoo-iK3to

5 жыл бұрын

Especially in UK

Scale map....scribe a circle (the distance the robot travelled to the first point of interest) from the manhole cover in the gardens to find the location of the blocked manhole cover then scribe another circle from here at the distance the robot travelled to the end of its run to find the location of the tee junction and the arch. You can work out the approximate direction of the brook and where the circle bisects this line you have the points of interest. Its worth a try. A good chance of finding the location of the blocked manhole/shaft! Just a thought....

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

👍

@Hvtesla

4 жыл бұрын

I, and no doubt many others, have thought the same, you'd have to be lucky it's not built on though. I wonder if a radio sonde would have worked? - Quiet Sunday morning - two suspicious chaps with 120m odd of 3m fibre-glass drain rods with a sonde on the end - what could possibly go wrong (terrorist alert aside). But seriously, having done similar work locating Telecommunication ducts with sondes, almost certainly depth and the inevitable interference from overlying underground services, would be the enemy. OH and of course, usual quality video!

Awesome again Martin. Every video is a snippet of times gone by, tinged with the sadness of modern progress “invading” the original structure of things. Another great video none the less.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve, could not have put it better myself

Amazing and better than anything on TV!

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul

Fantastic video Martin. I've only just discovered your channel and have spent any free time catching up with the rest. Being born and bred in Oldham I find your videos absolutely fascinating. Keep it up mate. Cheers

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Mark. I was born at the then Boundry Park hospital 😀

Bloody hell! What a brilliant video, thanks 👌🏻👍🏻

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul

Your best film yet, Martin. I was gripped from beginning to end, and wanted more. Well done, thanks for all the effort.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tim, much appreciated 👍

This is the fourth time I've watched this video Martin and a huge thank you to Murphy Surveys, it's still as interesting and entertaining as the first. Thank you. Martin

Murphy's Surveys are stars for helping out. Lost Waterways of Manchester - 80 sheets on Amazon! Blimey. Smart video again Martin. Top one. Nice one. Get sorted!

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much mate ! £80 blooming hell, thats actually not bad seen it more expensive than that !!!!

Top vid, mate, loved it. You was only a few mins from my house at the beginning😁. I wondered what shooters brook looked like after one of your previous vids, crazy to think how old it it. I like to think that bricked up arch at the is where the kids used to swim under for coal. Would be cool to find out where those other manhole covers are along the way. Can see you worked hard on this. Good work, mate.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ned. Those other manholes will be there its that last one we want

@nedkelly4999

5 жыл бұрын

@@MartinZero would be nice if that robot thing had some sort of tracker on it. Maybe someone will watch this vid who does know where that last one is, i hope so.👍

Oh Martin that was sooooo fantastic. Of course stonework and brickwork was fantastic. You had me enthralled all the way thru. Thanks so much for taking me with you

@MartinZero

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Linda

Brilliant video once again Martin !! Just love ALL your videos.....so much Information... always interesting and I love all the old photos and maps of the city I live in !!! Great !!😁😁😁.!

Well, I came on You Tube looking for guitar tabs and one of your videos popped up! 2 hours later & 10 vids watched I’m hooked 😊 brilliant insight, excellent info and addictive. I’m now subbed!!!.........never found those tabs but hey who has time for that now? Cheers mate 😀😳😡😂

@kohedunn

5 жыл бұрын

Me too ! After months of British politics , this has been a welcome lifesaver back to sanity.... Someone out there watches over me , I'm convinced now...

Your KILLING me with suspense! I burnt my ham steak and sweet potato and my peas went cold. I was mezmerized. Omg ! Im truly addicted to your channel ! Breathlessly anticipating another, from a rainy night in Peru

So close yet so far. Fascinating video. Thank you for sharing.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated 👍

What a welcome discovery during lockdown 3.0! Fascinating stuff. I arrived here from researching my family in Manchester >then> Manchester areas and their names >then> the lost rivers. Thank you so much!

Another success thanks to you and Murpheys Surveys. When you reach the brick wall at 140 mts from Sackville Gardens, isn't the remote operated vehicle fitted with GPS then you would know exactly where you are. Also how about some volunteers from Murpheys and attempt to make an exploratory start of Dukes Tunnel from the Medlock itself. Probably best done in Summer when water level in Medlock is low. Something to think about and make plans for. Could be feathers in yours and Murpheys caps. Take care. K.

@difflockengage9228

5 жыл бұрын

Too deep to send/receive radio signals. The robot is remotely controlled but with with a long cable, not radio control.

@nbtmx1

5 жыл бұрын

Wonder if you could have a half circle mounted on the rear of the robot directly under the cable with a camera mounted above it. Have the cable at the start be a dead centre of the arc meaning 90degrees as it is going along as the cable moves side to side you could then figure which direction you are going.

@roberthickman4092

5 жыл бұрын

could also do that with accelerometer and gyro.

Hi Martin you have just earned a new subscriber, fantastic video.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hello thanks very much for subscribing. Much appreciated 👍

Another amazing video! ...Thank you Martin, the industrial history of Manchester is awesome. You are proving to be a great guide.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

this was the vid that made me subscribe when I first saw it last year - has seen some others which I'd liked but this was so fascinating, I was hooked. Had to watch it again. Still brilliant

As others have said GREAT THANKS to Andy & Murph`s for the extra gripping info, damn that 45 mins flew by and left hungry for more answers. where do all the points lead to or come from, what else will be found that has been forgotten about and throw more questions about the past that time & folk have not recorded and lost in time. it`s bugging me i need to know or should i come over an dig the whole of Man-city centre up to solve it lol They can soon re-build it haha

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Id, love to do a massive dig. I wanna see inside Dukes though 😀

@yorkiepudd7404

5 жыл бұрын

hell i`m with you on that one, i think medlock 3 or which ever vid the entrance was shown. you see dukes as of now but more so pause video and look at the brick work and you notice how big the 5 layers of brich arch is and how high current water level is. Allowing arch center of 1ft or 2ft above barge, barge depth above/below water line and at least 1ft between barge and bed bottom, i reckon it puts water level5/6ft lower and bed 8/10ft lower then current levels. which begs the question of what else is hidden by the years of silt & rubbish build up.

@higgme1ster

5 жыл бұрын

@@MartinZero, last year, Elon Musk wanted to rescue the kids trapped in the Thailand cave with a mini submarine, you may remember. If you got that eccentric chap interested, he could build a tube car for a man lying prone to trundle through the pipe at Sackville Gardens for further investigation. This mystery needs a solution. As you guys say over there, I hope you can sort it.

obviously so much time and expense goes into culverting and it must be mapped in order for it to go to its correct location etc. as the narrow tunnel was built recently why the heck is there no plans for this-really odd.

@Stop..carry-on

5 жыл бұрын

Alan Wolstenholme the old tunnels would have been built as and when needed , regulations weren’t a”thing” 100-200 years ago as the trades men were masters in what they did and left to it. id say the modern concrete section is a repair job - so again it would have been done maybe because the only tunnel collapsed or had issues, it could have realistically been done anywhere from the 50s onward it looks like the prefab concrete sections , the council would most lightly paid for the repair so it would have been documented somewhere even if for just billing

OMG!! Amazing footage :) Thanks Martin and props to Murphy Surveys for their great work. hopefully more info about the other mysteries will come to light.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim, too many unanswered questions

Fascinating stuff. You are a master of your craft .. and Murphy Surveys are valuable professionals eh.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin. Yep it was great info they offered

Very amazing video well done and I love listening to your videos

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot mate

@BLINDEXPLORERASIFMUHAMMAD

5 жыл бұрын

@@MartinZero you are most welcome mate

Yet another fascinating video production from Martin, get in lad, keep em coming.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Simon

Thanks Martin for another amazing and interesting video. You're the Sherlock Holmes of tunnels!! Can't wait for more videos!! Keep up the good work.

Hello Martin, Absolutely wonderstruck mate.This is without a doubt an astonishing and extrelemy impressive video it was worth the wait. The amount of time, effort and information you put in to make a film like this is staggering to say the least, Thank you. But do you honestly think this is as far as you can go with the story of Shooters brook ?

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

There is probably more but its getting the info. See what I can do ?

@iangrange7124

5 жыл бұрын

Understand completely.Your research to-date on Shooters brook is a fantastic achievement.Thank you again Martin. Keep safe and have a Merry Christmas

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

@@iangrange7124 Merry Christmas Ian and thank you

You must come to Oxford and explore there are all sorts of tunnels and passages below the centre of the that have been forgotten about

@craigrees3897

5 жыл бұрын

I thought they had blocked that off with a grill at the Christchurch end of it

@clifftonicstudios7469

4 жыл бұрын

Also Worcester very old.

Bloody fantastic video. This is the real Discovery channel !

Fascinating video. An intriguing investigation, The underground bricked-up arch looked amazing. Many thanks for the upload.

Enjoyed this!

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers guys 👍

When I was a member of Manchester City Fire Brigade we trained in underground rescues and had specialist breathing apparatus facemasks fitted with Diktron cable communications as radios just weren't up to the job. We invested in a radio system called Figaro which promised much and delivered nothing. It seems communications haven't progressed much in underground workings since the early 70's and even a more modern cable communications system doesn't seem to have beendeveloped either or Murphy's would be using it. We can talk to men in space but a few yards of earth defeats all man's efforts. Ps. did they not try the cocoa tin and string system? 😁

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Steven, yep sounds very true. Empty soup can and string like you say 😆

@Ice_Karma

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, sometimes the laws of physics get in the way of our best intentions and desires and provide a barrier that is not just intractable with the technology we have at hand, but, short of a radical reinvention of physics, doesn't appear to have any solution. =/

@kd5you1

5 жыл бұрын

Sometimes leaky coax or leaky feeder is used in tunnels and mine shafts for radio transmission and reception. I wonder how well leaky coax would work in this case.

@blahfasel2000

5 жыл бұрын

There are systems (mostly home built or manufactured in low numbers) used by speleologists and cave rescuers. They are wireless and can work to quite some depths and distances, however they use earth currents for communication, so I don't think they would be suitable for use in artificial tunnels beneath a busy city. They also require quite elaborate antenna setups, making them more or less semi-stationary, so not really useful during exploration, it's more for communication between the surface and underground base camps or things like that. You can use a loop antenna instead of an earth antenna for the underground station, requiring much less setup, but this limits depth quite considerably, and you still need a surface station with an earth antenna more or less right above the underground station. The HeyPhone is one such system: bcra.org.uk/creg/heyphone/

@zstormreviews

5 жыл бұрын

this isnt correct at all bud you may just be bad at looking up stuff but we do indeed have some good stuff for under ground stuff these days. google my friend will set ye free

congratulations martin , another masterpiece of the search for shooters brook .Many thank's to the survey guys for adding the extra video and information, really put the final touch to your quest for answers. ..

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. I do love these old lost waterways

Absolutely fascinating really enjoyed this video, thank you for all your time and energy into the making of this, love every minute.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much 👌

This tunnel leads from a previous lower level Medlock to a point just underneath the present day station approach, and was used to carry coal from the Worsley mines to the station. Entrance to the Duke’s Tunnel Before the current layout of canals, back when the Medlock was navigable by barges, it was used to transport coal on ships from the Duke’s mines out at Worsley to Bank Top close to Piccadilly Station. They did this by leaving the Medlock at Garrett Dye Works and travelling through a route known as Duke’s Tunnel. The tunnel was completed by 1789 and its route can be seen on maps in Underground Manchester. The mouth of the tunnel is still visible along the Medlock from the train going past, and it is possible to see how much the Medlock has silted up from the fact that only the top of the arch is visible. I’ve read anecdotal claims that the tunnel was somehow connected to Shooter’s Brook, which would have joined the Medlock near to the mouth of the tunnel, and apparently kids used to be able to dive beyond the bottom of the brook, into the tunnel and retrieve coal which had been left behind. I’ve plotted the tunnel’s route using maps and documents in Underground Manchester by Keith Warrender on pages 34-37, and from old OS maps of the area. I’ve placed pins on locations of shafts to the surface marked on maps. You can see a photo of the entrance to the tunnel on Castlefield Canal Heritage Walk. This tunnel was completed in 1789 and was 650 yards in length, 8ft 6ins high and 6 feet wide. Judging by the narrow width and lack of towpath the boats used must have been ‘Starvationers’… the type of compartment boat used inside the Worsley Mines. At the coal face the coal they carried was loaded into wooden containers which fitted in between the exposed ribs inside the boats (hence the name ‘Starvationers’). The boats were ‘legged’ through the tunnel and the coal delivered to the end at Bank Top close to the approach to Piccadilly Station. Once at the end of the tunnel, near the junction of London Road and Ducie Street, the wooden coal containers were winched to the surface by a horse gin… a horse-powered hoist for delivery to the adjacent Knowles and Sons Coal Yard. The River Medlock was gradually made un-navigable by about 1800 due to adjacent factories and mills disposing of cinders and other rubbish into it causing it to silt up.Castlefield Canal This is some info i found bout shooters brook

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

I think you found a similar source to what I read out. The first bit is interesting though 👍

@stephensaines7100

5 жыл бұрын

The "mystery wall" at 30 mins into the vid: Could it be a cistern replenished when the water level is high to be available to ensure a sufficient depth of water to navigate the tunnel when levels were low? A lock system would be necessary, and I question the limited amount of volume apparently available there to do this. Alternately, could it be a cistern replenished from high water levels to allow *flushing* the tunnel when water levels are very low, to push the noted silting problem down to the Medlock?There may be a cock beneath the water line to allow this, or a siphon could be used to do this. My immediate impression is that it's a cistern, but for what?

@m3zov

5 жыл бұрын

@@stephensaines7100 Maybe it was for locals to draw drinking water.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

@@stephensaines7100 Hi Stephen. It could be. One thing Shooters brook which is where the 'Cistern' wall thing is. Was never navigable. Its just a little brook. But your other theories could be correct ?

Would ground penetrating radar be effective on this challenge? Maybe at least it could create a sort of "connect-the-dots" map? I've never even been to England but I truly relish the opportunity to "visit" there at a "nerds eye view". I'm a history wonk, for sure, and I'm usually feeling frustrated when I visit areas new to me. One more point: I live in a metro area encircling Seattle, WA and we can have some expensive catstrophes from these old water management strategies. Our fall and winter rain storms can overwhelm the structures and roads and building get damaded or destroyed. Of course, this is earthquake country, too. Maybe Manchester is sitting on more secure stone? Another complication of utilizing these streams for industry instead of nature is something we are paying dearly for now in diminishing fish stocks, shrinking whale pods, etc. Could you comment on if these types of issues have impacted the region? Terrific video and easier for me to do than fly to england and poke about in my relatively poor health. Thank you so much.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Anna thanks for your comment and fantastic your watching in Seattle. Not sure about the Radar its beyond my knowledge. I think we are on fairly secure stone here. Our earthquakes are few and far between and rare and mild. Interesting your comments on the old water management strategies. I bet there are a few lost tunnels under Seattle also. thanks again for watching and commenting. Regards Martin let me know if you do visit 👍

@gryphonart9586

4 жыл бұрын

@@MartinZero There is an "underground city" In Seattle near Pioneer Square. Part of it is open for tours. Other parts are not, but still accessible through certain basements. I live in Bremerton WA (west of Seattle across Puget Sound). There are rumors of a tunnel network under our town from WW2 that provided access to Puget Sound Naval Shipyard away from spying eyes. I think it's mostly interconnected basements, mostly blocked off. Parts have been found, I've heard stories of other parts, and been in basements downtown that are quirky to say the least. All of that was top secret and still not talked about much, but it's there. Even in our relatively young urban area, there are mysteries to explore 😁

Better than any Agatha Christie, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Brilliant film making Martin.

Absolutely fascinating stuff! I grew up in Sale and never knew any of this. How exciting to explore around and discover all those hidden secrets beneath your feet!

I would love to come on a explore with you

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff, you in Manchester

@TheAcEgamer15

5 жыл бұрын

I live down in Essex

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheAcEgamer15 Ahh that could be a problem 😆👍

you know/ you could work out where those two manholes are by watching the vid and calculate corner angles in the tunnel. you could draw a pretty actuate map. that with the length equals the right location of those entrances or probably there about give or take 5 or 6 meters.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, The first bit, Car park to Sackville gardens is mapped its the bit Sackville gardens out to the Medlock that is a mystery

@difflockengage9228

5 жыл бұрын

If i was at home and not on my phone i would happily spend hours making approximations!

Just discovered this working my way through, fantastic, one of your best. Merry Christmas Martin.

thoroughly intrigued by that video,best one to date....fantastic to see a waterway that no one has seen for 200 years but also raises so many what,ifs and buts that like you said whe'll probably never know..thanks martin for that, video was superb

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for watching and commenting. Yeah I was so thrilled to see something uncovered after such a long time 👍😀

Found your channel by accident. That was the shortest 45 minutes I've had in a while! Is there any way that one brick could be temporarily removed from the outside of the arch, so a camera could see inside?

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Hello thanks for your comment👌 Thing is it’s very hard for a man to get down there that tunnel is such a long crawl

@hamshackleton

5 жыл бұрын

@@MartinZero No - from the OUTSIDE, where the river runs past the archway.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

@@hamshackleton The whole thing at the moment is very inaccessible both sides of the arch. If its Dukes tunnel its possibly filled in. The shooters brook route ( the way your talking about) is over 100 meters along a 600mm diameter tunnel in water

The Bridgewater Canal was built because of the Duke of Bridgewater's coal mines at Worsley. The coal seams ran under the higher ground to the north. The Duke's land agent, John Gilbert, saw that it was possible to connect the canal directly to the mines by way of an underground canal. This in turn could be used to help with draining the mines, providing a source of water for the canal. The underground canal was constructed from Worsley Delph, an old sandstone quarry near Worsley Brook. At one time a million tons of coal a year passed through this tunnel. To relieve congestion a second tunnel was constructed which met with the original about 500 yards in. Around 47 miles of underground canals were constructed, on four different levels, connected by a water powered inclined plane and lifts. The main tunnels stretch as far north as Farnsworth, with side tunnels running at right angles along the coal seams. Specially designed boats were used in the tunnels. These were only four and a half feet wide with protruding ribbed sides and so were given the nickname of "starvationers". These were loaded with coal at the coal face, were hauled from level to level on the inclined plane and brought the coal out onto the canal. The remains of one of these boats is seen near the entrance to the tunnels at Worsley Delph.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff. To see in those tunnels eh ?

@thomastierney8705

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely martin makes you wonder where else do they lead to

@thomastierney8705

5 жыл бұрын

I liked the inscription on that manhole cover on London Road 👍

@totherarf

5 жыл бұрын

@@thomastierney8705 They lead to the mine at Astley! The Coal Board decided to block the Delph enterance up (probably to stop people like me getting in) but did not allow enough drainage and the rising water level in the mine caused gas to be compressed and an unfortunate unplugging of an electric fire caused an explosion (I think it was in Walkden) and they re opened the tunnels! There was also a pit in Walkden that was connected to the network (opposite KFC) and eventually the network extended through Mosley Common!

Wow, just wow. Thanks, that made my day!

Wow another great episode, thank you.

Oh my, noooo, more mystery.......... If urban exploring videos could do cliffhangers this would be the one to do it. Another excellent piece Martin - thank you ;)

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stevie, so many questions 😀

@MsStevieWoo

5 жыл бұрын

This videos has really sparked a curiosity for using FPV tech to traverse that tunnel 😝👌

All your videos are fascinating but this is the best one yet. Thank you for all the hard work, time and effort you dedicate to them!

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

Nice one Martin, great video nicely done. Enjoyed the footage and narrative. Thanks to Andy too! 👌

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers John

Having worked in Sewers and done CCTV surveys, I found this really interesting. Mine wasn't as interesting as I was working with 30 year old sewers in Logan City, South of Brisbane Queensland Australia. We don't really have the history underground like you guys do but it is all very interesting to me. I'm glad you left the technical stuff to Andy as I understood most of what he was talking about.

I think its time to convince Connor to take a swim up Duke's Tunnel with a waterproof camera! Great Vid Mate, thats some truly fascinating stuff. This had some of the best editing I've seen in your videos so far. The 2 minute montage at the start was brilliant! Pro quality editing and sync with the music; it was so good I had to watch it twice. Its amazing how much of Manchester's past is left, but scary to think about how much has been lost and is being lost every day to development. I admit I had a second or two of queasy shock when I realized how many construction cranes were visible in the opening shot. Generations from now people will be using your videos as a reference to their past the way you use the old maps and books. Even though I'm 3000 miles across the ocean from Manchester and will probably never visit, I'm grateful to you for documenting her past. Tens of thousands of people have glanced at that opening on the Medlock and never thought twice about it. Its comforting in a way to know that there are folks like you who see that and want to discover and uncover the mysteries and history of it. The world needs more of that kind of benevolent curiosity. Cheers

A fine bit of work, the best of your videos I have seen to date, not least because it was based on some authoritative research, added material based on expert surveying, and had a questioning tone throughout. Well done. Chris Davies

Now that , that is a fantastically intriguing video... wow . Thank you.!

As a Manchester man, thank you, this was fascinating!

WOW! That was great that you were able to get the survey company to help out with their robot camera! SO many unanswered questions! VERY interesting!

@MartinZero

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

That was bloody fascinating mate. I don't know why seven people have given it a thumbs down. They probably have the attention span of a gnat.

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

😆Thank you 👍

Awesome, very well made video, i love it! Very exciting to see that modern city still have secrets to offer.

Amazing Martin what a journey and mystery. Been wondering now about culverts in my town. Take it easy.

Another absolutely fascinating video and the cooperation and professionalism from Murphy Surveys was brilliant. Would have been interesting to have seen on the map the radius distance traveled by the robot, showing the area within which the lost inspection shafts would lie. Thanks for all the efforts taken to produce these videos :)

Another fantastic video Martin, I m now fascinated with the underground Manchester and surrounding areas, so informative, credit to you pal, love the vids, keep them coming.. top bloke👍👍

@MartinZero

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Paul 👍