Which one do you prefer? Sub OR Dub?

@user-ec3lq3pe4b

8 ай бұрын

Sub

@kayso6582

8 ай бұрын

Dub gang

@aslanbatyrov8030

8 ай бұрын

Sub

@babayega5814

8 ай бұрын

I love Naruto...

@alondrita8a

8 ай бұрын

Los dos me gustan pero Sub siento que va mas con kakashi badass y sad jejeje

You all need to do Obito's VA and Madara's

@Akbar_and_Shaa

8 ай бұрын

Obito wins because he has three voices to compete with

@Gabzilla27

8 ай бұрын

@@Akbar_and_Shaa it's not Obito vs Madara

@Akbar_and_Shaa

8 ай бұрын

@Gabzilla27 yes it is look at the comment what are you talking about

@Gabzilla27

8 ай бұрын

@@Akbar_and_Shaa VA = voice acting

@Gabzilla27

8 ай бұрын

@@Akbar_and_Shaa where does it say vs?

Do Gaara! So very different, but both amazing! I don't even know myself which I would choose after watch plenty of times.

@seanmorton4689

7 ай бұрын

dub solely off the BLOOOOOOOD line

The thing with sub is that it is not translated exactly. There are so many different ways they're translated but they're written for quick readability rather than trying to nail everything. People comparing languages they don't speak will always confuse me

@MWMTEE

8 ай бұрын

low iq people get confused easy

@Uaroth

8 ай бұрын

Don't know, I've seen subs with a lot of detailed information with no regard for quick readability at all, had to pause) And at least sub lets you actually hear when some obvious thing gets translated wrong. For example, English translators (and ours, who just translate from English rather than from original) just love for some reason to turn a single gently wishpered name into whole sentence. As if translators assume that non-japanese viewers wouldn't be able to comprehend simple tender "Naruto" without adding "how are you, where you've been, I'm so worried". And sometimes both sub and dub without any reason transform some neutral "so that's how it is" into something like "I'm fed up with this, hate you so much" - changing whole mood and meaning. In dub you wouldn't even know that, while in sub you authomatically understand such basic things, you hear that only three calm words were said, not ten angry ones. So I think subs are the obvious choice...

@MWMTEE

8 ай бұрын

cringe and wrong@@Uaroth

@Uaroth

8 ай бұрын

@@MWMTEE how so? You can confirm this for yourself if you watch anything with subtitles regularly. Yes, translation often plainly lying, trying to adapt meaning for local culture or add some unnecessary flavor. Yes, with subs you can notice it and understand some original phrases even without knowledge of the language. With dub you can't and just live with wrong impression about story and characters. Just facts, check on your own, compare. If single sigh and name literally gets translated as sentence with several questions in it - what's there to argue about and why would you think I'm wrong?)

@dottiestgrunt3229

4 ай бұрын

​@@Uarothignore the guy, he's clearly the type who prefers dub above all else

Really hoping for pain one day, mainly for the speech!

@Gabzilla27

8 ай бұрын

Shinra Tensei!

Actually in first clip, sub Kakashi does sound like he is talking to a child as he is being very slow and using very kind and reassuring tone while extending the vowel at the end of the sentence. He does not sound so badass during this conversation. It was just his natural deep voice. Maybe it is difficult to understand his tone if u r not native speaker

Both are really nice. Does anyone else still cry after watching Kakashi's death scene?

I feel like these Dub vs Sub Naruto videos are the "Normies Sub Fan Apology Tour". Anyone else feel like some of the takes reflect the complete opposite of what's there? People continue to bring this up but Japanese, when translated to English doesn't emerge as cleanly when it's direct. It creates dialogue that sounds robotic and totally not how a person would actually speak. The dub has introduced more colorful language and expressions that we use here in the west that make the characters feel more relatable and human without taking away from the original meaning, but the Normies called that "G-rated sugarcoating" -_- The lines, "Well, both you and I aren't the lucky ones..." and "But we're not the worst either" sound so generic and bland compared to "Neither of us has lived a charmed life, exactly" and "Still, we're not all that bad off". Also, some crucial clips are missing. I know we have to be selective for the videos sake, but if I were making the choices I would've included the scene where we hear the iconic "abandoning your friends makes you worse than scum" line for the first time (even though it's still early Kakashi and Dave gets even better with age/also to bring it full circle with the scene when he says it to Obito would've been phenomenal to play in front of the Normies), the scene where Kakashi monologues internally during his final fight with Obito before he stabs him through, and the scene where he's sitting over him empathizing with Obito after he's had the Ten-tails sucked out of him. Those are crucial to Kakashi's development as a character. The scene right before he's about to finish off Zabuza, shit-talking to him and Haku saves him is pretty good too. I would've removed the Pain arc scene as it's partially inconsequential, though maybe a more emotional piece might've been the scene where he's reflecting on his life before passing into limbo after that same fight just because there's more personal material there. Ultimately, I just have to come to the conclusion that it's weird to have a contest between two different languages and performances when the judges can't understand or comprehend the inflections and expressions in Japanese. When they make remarks about how a Japanese person performed a line and how it affected the tone of the scene, how do they know that inflection means the same thing as it does in English or in a western culture? There's a lot of subtle differences, though I know we're doing our best out here. I feel like they're being harsher on Kakashi and other dub actors in certain instances because they possess the English comprehension to understand fully take it apart. Sometimes, I feel like it's for no substantive reason at all. With the sub, you lack the ability to understand it fully so there's this alluring component to it that makes it sound cool and mysterious. So you can affirm it without truly being able to appraise it. Not saying sub actors aren't amazing, just saying the contest seems weird to have. This would be a more interesting conversation to have with the Normies in a bigger debate, maybe with callers in a podcast format giving their takes.

Both are good. Didn't notice a difference when switched to sub because dub was behind in new episodes. This was around the Pain Arc.

Nooo, missed opportunity to add Kakashis speech right before he stabs obito. That scene was soo good.

I really appreciate this series

Just wanna say this is such a good series that y'all are doing.

We need Almighty Push in the villain video!

Please do Pain, Madara Itachi, or just all the popular characters in general.

The sub vs. dub series is very entertaining.

Fun fact: Kazuhiko brought us the amazingly iconic “EREN YEAGGGGGERRR” in the aot sub!

I'm a sub watcher on almost all anime. But dub Naruto is simply legendary and easily on eaqual footing if not better than sub in certain ways. Dub kakashi is soo iconic.

It's Neil Kaplan, Matthew Mercer, Troy Baker, David Lodge, Crispin Freeman, Tom Gibis, Liam O'Brien e.t.c.❤🥷

Dave Wittenberg was in the new Spiderman 2 game btw lol. So was Jiraiya's voice actor

Second clip is an amazing pick. When in Sub he says "Everyone has been already killed" gulp.

17:58 I mean, the speech hits Sasuke just right and probably would have saved him from revenge if it wasn't for the Sound 4 showing up and ripping open old wounds.

i've heard her use this example for kakashi sub and erwin sub. why is she under the impression when you're dying or hurt you only say one word sentences. usually in fatal situations people are rambling as their brain shuts down or fights to get the last words out

You guys got a taste of it here, but definitely do adult Obito. The dub makes...choices with that make him sound just so much older and it's really jarring if you're use to the sub.

@Dartkitten

8 ай бұрын

I think the obito child english va made his voice deeper then the adult english va. Its jarring to me.

Have you guys considered doing HxH as well?

Last one should’ve been Kakashi’s speech right before he stabs Obito.

Sub just hits harder, dare I say as intended

"These are sad facts, Rana" 😂😂

Micky hasnt seen it so, digimon reactions when then?

I want that Pikachu Kakashi behind Rana!

Steve Blum e.t.c.

We all want Pain next

Since you haven't watched the filler episodes, it would be interesting to add scenes from these episodes on Sub vs Dub

i've heard Kashi in brazilian portuguese, english and japonese and the conclusion i get to is.... i love my husband in any language he speaks

After y'all finish with naruto y'all should do HxH

Kakashi's dub voice actor is honestly fucking amazing. Like Guy, he stands out in almost every scene. Kazuhiko Inoue is one of the greatest VAs of all time and I love his Kakashi, but I wouldn't be upset at all if Dave took this. His Kakashi is just that good. And that's the thing with English Dubs- they often are standout performances that almost everyone loves, but the overall quality of the cast is often much lower than the sub. In Japan voice acting is taken very seriously. Major VAs are mini-celebs and the best of the best are just calebs. Because of that, even minor roles are given careful consideration and the VAs really do give it their all. But when a dub needs someone to voice "Background Character B" it really does feel like they're pulling random people off the street sometimes.

@awsomeboy360

8 ай бұрын

You think voice acting isn't taken seriously here? Lol. People always bring this up, but that has nothing to do with how the quality of the dub. They take their jobs very seriously and I don't think another cast would have done it any better in English.

@animagamer2

8 ай бұрын

​@@awsomeboy360" You think voice acting isn't taken seriously here?" *_Yes._* Many famous voice actors spoke out about how undervalued they are in the industry despite being at the top of their game in the Western voice acting scene. And it's worse for people who work primarily in anime. When someone wants something dubbed and they have the choice between paying Jonny Yong Bosch a fair rate for his talents or just hiring some random C-lister and paying him a fraction of the cost, 8/10 times they go with the C-lister. That would never happen in Japan. The D and C list voice actors work their way up the chain, typically only getting background roles in major productions and starring roles in minor ones. If an unknown voice actor plays a major role in something it's because they have a lot of people in the industry vouching for their talent. Western voice actors wished the industry cared enough to ask for their opinion on anything. Oh, by the way, this is why if you look through any famous Western voice actors role listings you'll almost always find a role in some random leggo Star Wars game. Because games with large companies backing them just want their games to be good and are willing to pay top dollar to get the best talent. I can't remember who, but someone said in the past that it's those roles that put food on the table and that they only voice work for anime out of passion.

both for me

why are you guys still evaluating the dialog as a point of comparison? one thing is the lines in the dub which is the oficial translation and adaptation of the lines in japanese and the other is the interpretation of some guy in the internet, theres no official subtitles

@shawnsd

8 ай бұрын

Uhm... you don't actually believe there's no official subtitles right?

@danielmori8850

8 ай бұрын

@@shawnsd you can try to compare the dialog in the dub with the subtitles of the dvds or crunchyroll but that wouldnt be fair. subtitles change depending of the platform, they should take the dialog in the dub as the base translation and adaptation of the words in japanese and just compare the performance of the actors and delivery of the lines, if you compare dialog theres a lot of people between the lines you see on the screen and the original lines in japanese

@KolyoSofiata

8 ай бұрын

@@shawnsd There are "official" ones on official platforms, but there are literally hundreds of translations and not just in English. And the way you translate for subtitles is different than you would for a voice over. It's straight up idiotic to compare the phrasing unless you understand Japanese.

Anyway to me sub is way better than dub. and it's a bit weird to evaluate the voice acting only for one character

I couldn’t stand Naruto’s English dub so I watched the entire series in sub. Even so I prefer dub Kakashi. He has great dad/mentor energy

@silknsatin1325

8 ай бұрын

The English VA’s voice is amazing in general. Even in an American context it’s unique and not like others, and I think that’s why he stands out.

MIGHT GUY

are they gonna watch boruto at some point?

They are equally incredible to be honest.

I THOUGHT THEY SOUNDED EXTREMELY SIMILAR LOL. ANYONE ELSE?

Rana and Navi are so cute 😍

Would love one for Gaara.

Itachi uchiha next

I know you don't wanna do Boruto, but can you do some of their best fights. Especially episode 65 due to it being one of the best anime fights of all time, and top 3 if no 1 for the Naruto/Boruto verse.

@DaveH82

8 ай бұрын

True!

@patricktorres1292

8 ай бұрын

If their not gonna watch the entire show i'd rather they watch nothing at all

Tbh there are a lot of great dub and sub matchups for naruto and Kakashi's is one of them. I find both equally great for this one. My preference changes depending on the scene. Madara, Obito, Pain, Itachi, Gai and Jiraiya would be great as well, i feel like they're on the same level in terms of quality. On the other end of the spectrum, voices for Hashirama and Tobirama are vastly better in sub so it would be fun for them to hear it in this setting as well.

Dub Kakashi sounds more personable while sun is trying to be a teacher

I'm calling it out, normies have found the ultimate cheat code of these versus battles. get a fifth person on this couch so there is no way these ties can happen because otherwise whats the point of these versus if there is no winner.

Please do Kabuto 💙💜

Should take kakashi scene when obito is under the rock .

Now this is a tough one the dub voice actor for him is amazing @_@

We need Madara and Pain

It's ok if you don't watch boruto but react to naruto sasuke vs momoshiki or any top fight from boruto

Where’s the pain one.

Fun fact: Both the Dub and Sub voice actors for Kakashi voice Yoriichi from Demon Slayer :) It’s cool when VA share multiple characters

@ryanbrodsky5488

8 ай бұрын

No, Mick Lauer is the English voice for Yoriichi not Dave Wittenburg.

You really need to do Madara

Kurapika next pls

“Charmed life” is Kakashi being sarcastic in the moment you can tell by how he says it I don’t think that had anything to do with lighting dialogue.

Next My Hero Academia Sub vs Dub

Hope they watch other naruto movies...

For me 1. Sub 2. Dub 3. Dub 4. Sub

Need better chips for vocal range

Do armin sub vs dub next !!!!

@jet-g4458

8 ай бұрын

they already did bruh

Hinata,tobi,madara please

Based on the first clip, the English dub was more sentimental while the Japanese seemed like he had a more casual, lighthearted tone.

@7daimeHokage

8 ай бұрын

First clip I can understand sub is too subtle, but it is mostly the extending of some vowels at the end of a sentence. It is a serious matter to discuss some elses struggle even to a kid. You can't patronize to much, so that extension is almost to make it sound like a question to sure that it reaches the kid.

I like the sasuke kakashi talk. The dub makes it sound mire patronizing and i think that works on a thematic level as to why sasuke leaves and why kakashi can't get through to him.

@SantosAl

8 ай бұрын

But Kakashi does get to him, it is the Sound ninja utterly embarassing him that pushed him out.

WHEN YOU GONNA DO MADARA!!! he's dub voice is easily the best dub in Naruto

Navi looks like a magical girl with that choker, skirt, cape. I know its a jacket but she is wearing it like a cape.

dub kakashi sounds so comforting to me lol

Might Guy has a great dub as well. Captures all the personality

@BBBerti

8 ай бұрын

Nah the english dub has his own personality, more goofy, nit necessarily worse. But Japanese guy always takes the cake during scenes where he has to show aggression, where the English character falls a little flat

@Kickinthescience

8 ай бұрын

@@BBBerti what about the dub for Orichimaru and Madara and Itachi?

@Akbar_and_Shaa

8 ай бұрын

​@@BBBertiheresy

Honestly the localization is so good it feels like the dubbing is reversed. Japanese dubbed English. It sounds like the Japanese VA is trying to fit in as many words as possible in the scene. Usually it’s the other way around.

Dub no question

25:00 But don't you talk faster in your inner monologue? So it can be more dialog heavy than the words he says out loud.

Madara,Orichimaru and Pain should be next

@brandonkukumayeyi6048

8 ай бұрын

fax that really should be next

Chris dub Jonsin 😂😂😂

As a voice actor myself, I feel English dub VA’s generally deserve more credit. According to a video called “dubbed anime isn’t that bad” and Connor if trash taste, the Japanese voice acting industry is much more built up than the American one. To paraphrase Connor, “Japan has voice acting school whereas we just have acting school.” Now, we do have voice over class, but it’s still not the same thing. Either way, most dub voice actors lack the training of their Japanese counterparts. That issue combined with the problem of having to match the lip flaps puts western anime actors at a substantial disadvantage to their Japanese counterparts. Furthermore, a lot of people accuse western voice actors of sounding unnatural and emotionless. I feel that criticism misunderstands both VO and traditional acting. Believe it or not, many voice over teachers do NOT teach you to sound natural, they teach you to sound CLEAN bc natural dialogue sounds disgusting when recorded into a track. They also teach you to enunciate EVERYTHING in order to sound as clear as possible. So, when someone accused a western dub actor of sounding unnatural-well, that’s the point, at least according to my experience. Trust me, you do not want to listen to raw audio-audio that hasn’t been cleaned either by the actor or by sound editing programs. Now onto the emotion part. Western acting schools don’t teach you to “put emotions into your delivery”. Instead, they teach to be believable and, more importantly, to play what your character is DOING. The last point is kind of hard to explain, but, here’s how I put it. Let’s say your character is asking a question about something important in a scene. Chances are, a traditional acting teacher will teach you to play the ACTION of asking a question, not the “emotion behind the question”. I really hope that makes sense. The point of doing this is to make the dialogue sound ACTIVE, not natural. A great example of of this kind of acting is Violet Evergarden’s English VA, Erika Harlacher. The character is meant to come off as kind of emotionless and flat, which can be boring to watch. However, Harlacher manages to avoid this pitfall, by playing what the character actually DOES. During Violet’s scene with Aiden, Harlacher plays, well, the actions of talking to someone else, reassuring someone else, changing her mind, etc etc.As a result, Violet’s dialogue feels active even though she’s “emotionless”. With all this said, I need to address the elephant on the room. People on Quora said that “being believable” and “sounding clean” can make you come off as boring in an animated production. I imagine the same thing applies to the whole “play actions not emotions” technique many western actors are taught. Furthermore, I’m rooting my entire argument in personal experience. I’m sure I missed or messed up some concepts. If any fellow voice actors or actors hear this paragraph, please let me know.

@JW-xd8up

8 ай бұрын

Forgot to mention that acting teachers teach you play the desire behind an action as well. For instance, if your character asks a question, you would play the act of asking that question and the underlying reason why the character asked the question.

@JW-xd8up

8 ай бұрын

Thnx for liking!

@TheRoleplayer40k

8 ай бұрын

Dubbed anime is bad tho, they always sound stilted and all the women sound too old for the roles they play, female enlglish VAs need to learn how to sound like teenagers and not 40 year old women being teenagers...

@JW-xd8up

8 ай бұрын

@@TheRoleplayer40k Agree to disagree then.

@JW-xd8up

8 ай бұрын

@@TheRoleplayer40k again, the point of vo is not to sound natural, it’s to sound good.

You guys should do Chainsaw Man sub vs dub. And include Portuguese.

Sub is gonna be always better than dub for me. But if i’m being honest some of them are pretty good.

Dub is so robotic and soulless

This'll be an interesting one cause as a sub watcher, Kakashi's dub is very solid so dub will probably take the W here

@alwandemthethwa7594

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, kakashi's voices r something I could describe as comfortable, it's hard to choose between them 😅

Both really good. No wonder Naruto has one of the best anime dubs in the industry.

Dub for sure

I'll mostly go with dub its what pulled me in , if i want to read I'll just do manga

@7daimeHokage

8 ай бұрын

Sub vs dub asife , I will always laugh at people who compare reading subs to reading a manga or a book. Like it is such a strain, unless you're slow or dyslexic.

You guys wanting to be woke is a shackle in your judgement and makes the whole thing bais. Dub is clearly better just for the soul reason of emotional delivery

Dub forever. Try listening to sub without watching the screen. Ur left confused, who's who and what's happening

@batuhanxl

8 ай бұрын

Nah you are just slow

@TheRoleplayer40k

8 ай бұрын

Why would I not watch the screen of a show I'm watching? lol. what the hell

Both voices are good but i am also literally based on dub because the same like you I watched Naruto in dub and also what the hell Rana chose all damn scenes from the anime that death scene and Obito scene was good but another two are full trash scene compared to another great scene which we see in anime Suraj is good picking scenes from the anime that's for sure Rana Replied me why you chose that damn scene from the anime

@alfaiz_hussain

8 ай бұрын

Full Support to these series do more

Sasuke used his new learned chidori power for all the wrong reasons? Says who? My mans was definitely justified

Sub Shippuden will forever be superior I don't wanna hear it.....

It's the dub, rana is wrong as usual whats new tho honestly

@Pechuga27

8 ай бұрын

Chill bro, go touch some grass

@BBBerti

8 ай бұрын

You have realized that you have an opinion, congratulations

@rubenlopez2764

8 ай бұрын

@@Pechuga27 Sure, whatever you say high schooler lol

@tempzira

8 ай бұрын

Bro pressed about anime 😂

@alwandemthethwa7594

8 ай бұрын

​@@rubenlopez2764that's ironic to say coz from wat I read ur the one who comes across as immature ryt now 😅

It's interesting to see how much the dub poisoned their minds.

@patricktorres1292

8 ай бұрын

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