I absolutely love the guest! He proves that history and historians don't have to be so somber and serious. Really enjoyed his sense of humor.

@DukeLitoAurelius

6 ай бұрын

The education you can get online is definitely next-level.

Funny, the amount of comments mentioning the "off-putting", "inappropriate" laughter of the professor when talking about "serious issues"... To me the tone and the chuckling was nothing but endearing. Not to mention the compelling erudition of what he's actually saying. Maybe people discussing us in 500 years time will call this the Age of Earnest Misery.

@manusha1349

Жыл бұрын

The incessant guffawing was entirely off-putting and distracting. Having an intelligent discussion with wit and charm is one thing, inappropriate cackling is something else.

@TheOrdener

Жыл бұрын

Age of Ernest Misery. I love it. For the commenters, the Age of focus on non-essentials.

@rxpenkala

Жыл бұрын

His enthusiasm for the history that he teaches is awesome... would love to take some history classes with this professor...

@williamyalen6167

8 ай бұрын

​@@manusha1349 Totally agree. Fascinating topic with many interesting & informative points, but the repeated inappropriate laughing during discussion of distinctly unfunny matters was very distracting and undermined credibility.

@davidhermanson2361

7 ай бұрын

I took it as a rather gentle giod-natured fellow with a uniquely [goofy British] charming personality and bubbling with the passion of discussing his life's passion... people need to lighten up.

I've never seen a historian so steeped in his period. He's like a time traveller the way he has such vivid, emotional reactions to everything and an all-encompassing vision of the past.

@jsong8282

4 ай бұрын

That is a quality I have always associated with Shelby Foote

Facts are becoming very difficult to find. Douglas Murrays' Uncancelled History, brings to us the most interesting subjects & guests filled with fascinating facts.

@afterthesmash

4 ай бұрын

I disagree completely. Facts are easier to find than ever. What's changed is that you actually have to _find_ them, they no longer fall into your lap.

The roster of guests for this series is already most impressive. I watch these as soon as I can when they come out. They never fail to educate and make sane. A fantastic idea for a series and no better man to arrange it.

What a great man to listen to. I didn't go to university and it's great just to be able to tap into stuff like this these days on KZread. Thanks to everybody for putting this together.

@MsColl90

7 ай бұрын

Maybe follow up your hero worship, by reading up on the sad history of Hispaniola. Just for balance,

@mysterioanonymous3206

4 ай бұрын

​​​@@MsColl90I think the real balance lies in knowing that those were different times. Gruesome stuff happened absolutely everywhere. Now, the real stupidity lies in believing it was a uniquely European invention. The only differentiating factor is that we were more successfull at it through our technological edge and recent enough (and in times where writing existed) that people still care about it. We are however the only society that abolished slavery and invented human rights. So there's that. A little thank you would be nice. Every people in every corner of the world commited atrocities. So get over it already.

@mysterioanonymous3206

4 ай бұрын

You know, the thing with university is that people come out of it as subject "expert" and then think they're smarter when all they are is... A subject specialist (and often in rather narrow fields). Degreed people often think they know more than they do. They should keep to their subjects because it's often quite apparent that they barely know anything outside their fields. Their guess is as good as yours. So don't take that university thing too serious. It's just one of many relevant factors, and not the most important one either...

"prejudice is inviolable by fact", great phrase

As an Anglo-Hispanic myself, I feel deep patronage with Columbus and the Spanish Empire that followed him. The final straw for me was when they tried to tear down the Juan de Onate statue in New Mexico. I have ancestors that served with Onate. And they wonder why Hispanics are voting Republican….

@kogoromori30

Жыл бұрын

You're mixing up Spain and the American umbrella term "Hispanic" for Spanish-speaking people.

@willashland4597

Жыл бұрын

@@kogoromori30 Yes, please continue to tell this person about their own lineology. Clearly you know more about it than they do.

@kogoromori30

Жыл бұрын

@@willashland4597 Where am I wrong, idi*t? He clearly writes about "Hispanics" as if it is a race, which it is not. Spain = Europe = White. Really not that hard.

@BS-vx8dg

Жыл бұрын

While I am not endorsing the removal of the Juan de Onate statue, I do believe the people who did so were motivated by the specific wrongs committed by Juan de Onate himself, not the Spanish in general.

@MexAm120902

Жыл бұрын

​@@BS-vx8dg Removing a privately owned statue a few centuries after the fact will really change what happened. Not. 😅

His enthusiasm is infectious

"So why didn't Columbus make it to China?" Douglas is so cheeky hahaha

@captainadams8565

Жыл бұрын

Because America got in the way!

@MsColl90

7 ай бұрын

Come now. Let’s be serious. Columbus was a mercenary not a hero. It was a commercial venture. He was looking for gold and all his voyages were financed to make a profit. The unfortunate native peoples of the Caribbean islands he plundered did not survive the encounter. If hero worship is your thing, you can admire such behaviour. Just don’t lie about it.

Our ancestors were glorious. We need to be more like them.

@LogicSpeaks

Жыл бұрын

And much less like them. It really depends what you mean by that statement. Clearly people are of their time so their flaws are of their time but to use an extreme case; Hitler. Are we going to judge him based on his actions or are we going to judge him based on the time period he lived in? Clearly, there are ways to gauge a persons moral character not just by our current standards but by relative standards in the time period.

@dylan4964

Жыл бұрын

Our ancestors were the greatest and the creators of everything that has made the modern west great

@KrolPotato

Жыл бұрын

@@LogicSpeaks No, more like them. The current "criticism" against - say, Columbus - are based on a complete arrogance of historical records. It goes beyond "relative standards in the time period". People who scream the loudest are the ones who know the least of the people they are screaming about. We need more people like Columbus, not less.

@KrolPotato

Жыл бұрын

@@dylan4964 Yes, we live in times of abundance and comfort never experienced before. An average person has luxuries available to kings and emperors of the past, if available at all. We need to appreciate and thank our ancestors for their lives spent on hard labor so we could enjoy our comfortable lives many of us waste on scrolling through FB and/or Twitter on their mini-computers, often referred to as "smart phones".

@markusstewart9298

Жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏

The plummiest two voices in the anglosphere collide. I liked it.

@lilrawri8446

Жыл бұрын

Give me all the plum please

@andersdottir1111

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same.

@johnclark546

Жыл бұрын

I agree the guest is plummy. It is incredibly rare now because so many from the oxbridge set have become self conscious or mocked into extinction

@robleahy5759

Жыл бұрын

@@johnclark546 Their academic successors will ape Jamaican patois out of economic necessity.

@r6343

6 ай бұрын

This was a new word to me: plummy - (of a person's voice) having an accent thought typical of the English upper classes. "a plummy voice rich with haughty disdain"

I always wondered what became of Thurston Howell III after he got rescued from Gilligan's Island. I never imagined he would take up a teaching career. Lol

Fascinating discussion. Another hit in a great series! Great job Douglas!

@douglasmurray

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536

Жыл бұрын

Last Columbus Day I actually thought that we could sure use a Paulie Walnuts right now!

I love this series. Can we expect an episode about the history of slavery? I would love to learn more about the Barbary States.

@Benboy1980

4 ай бұрын

There is an excellent book called “White Gold”, I highly recommend it. A brilliant read

Fantastic discussion. I've been a fan of Professor Fernandez-Armesto's work for many years, especially his books on pre-Columbian exploration in the Atlantic, his work on Columbus, Vespucci, and most recent book on Magellan. He's a rare academic who writes serious peer-reviewed history as well as high quality work for the layperson. I admire him for coming on to talk intelligently about Columbus, but I doubt he will change opinion. Columbus is now firmly planted in the realm of the post-truth. He exists outside of space and time. He exists in the fantasy world of our minds. Whatever you think about him suffices. If the evidence suggests otherwise, throw a temper tantrum. We all have more important things to do. It's a shame so many comments here complain about the good professor's accent and mannerisms. I find his enthusiasm infectious and sincere. Read his work. It's rigorous and engaging.

Love the enthusiasm. Would love to have been taught history by Felipe. His students don't know how good they have it.

This series is essential viewing. Excellent work.

I love this scholar’s enthusiasm. Would have been a privilege to be a student in his class.

You can sense the respect DM has for the knowledge and wisdom. Thanks.

Wonderful discussion... If context collapse is the plague of our age, this show is doing its best at context reconstruction. Keep it up chaps!

I wish I could take a class with this guy as my professor! He has such a sense of fun and humor, and so much knowledge! Another great episode for Mr. Murray (no surprise)!

@douglasmurray

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@rustyshimstock8653

Жыл бұрын

I'd bet half a peach that this chap had sparked one up before the interview.

Another superb installment in the series. I particularly enjoyed his rich, fruity Royal Shakespeare Company voice as he conveyed his point.

Brilliant, once again. Many thanks, Douglas Murray.

Best new KZread series out there!!

@douglasmurray

Жыл бұрын

We're glad you think so!

@KrolPotato

Жыл бұрын

@@douglasmurray BTW, since we are gushing over the series (deservingly so!): what is this intro music? I like it a lot and would like to hear the piece in its entirety. The way the music swells and then fades away just before the start always tickles me the right way.

I have found all the episodes so far very informative and engaging. Maybe there could be one on the Australian colonisers (Captain Cook and co.).

@pshehan1

10 ай бұрын

Those in Australia who in keeping with the spirit of the times revile Cook and pour red paint over his statues fail to understand that he was not a colonizer. He sailed on a scientific expedition to observe the transit of Venus across the face of the sun, went on to map New Zealand and the east coast of Australia and following his instructions planted a flag at Possession Island and claimed the east coast for Britiain. He never thought any use would be made of the place. It was the well connected botanist on the voyage, Sir Joseph Banks who is responsible for Botany Bay getting its name and who promoted the establishment of a colony there. The initial colonizers, the First Fleet of convicts and marines under captain Arthur Philip decided that Botany Bay s did not live up to Banks' hype and found a better location at the next inlet to the north and established a settlement at Sydney cove. Cook also planted a flag and claimed possession of Alaska for Britain on a later voyage, but as no one promoted Alaska as a colony it was ignored and eventually claimed by the Russians, who later sold it to the US.

Another winner, Douglas. Thank you. What a knowledgeable, jolly guy. I wish that I had professors like this in school on any topics. (concessions to ignorance...that's it in a nutshell today on so many topics)

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536

Жыл бұрын

Is Filepe's accent an Eton drawl? I could listen to him all day.

@KrolPotato

Жыл бұрын

Agreed; my only complain is that when he chuckles, I sometimes could not understand what he was saying as he has this rare skill of laughing and talking at the same time.

Is this programme "the age of the explorers" or the "the age of columbus and supplementary bashing of magellan"? Where are Vasco da Gama, Pedro Álvares Cabral, Diogo Cão, João Fernandes Lavrador (after whom canadian Labrador region is called), etc, etc? Where are the reference that portugueses sailors painstaking mastered the wind patterns along the coast of africa, to reach Asia, the first to establish trade routes all the way from europe to japan. I am an avid consumer and admirer of Murray's programmes, books and articles and I have serious respect for the guest who is very enlightened scholar, however due credit should have been given to portuguese explorers who laid the groundwork for the creation of the first really global trade empire and certainly the title shouldn't have been so misleading.

@MexAm120902

Жыл бұрын

Here, here, so true. The Portuguese explorerers with Prince Henry the Navigator really started the Age of Discovery.

What a refreshing and amusing interview that is! Thank you both! Made my day

Since I first watched this interview I have been training my internal voice to sound like this gentleman and boy have I been having fun…

This sheer passion this man has for what he talks about had me smiling for the entire video!

The problem with toppling down monuments is that everyone loses in this game; to all the arguments against it that Dr. Fernandez-Armesto expressed I would add simply that once begun, this game has no end: after Columbus they will find another historical figure they will call "nazi" or "racist" and after that person is "erased", they will move on to the next, and next and so on. Ultimately, sooner or later, the Left will run into people who are not so "easily" categorized as "racist" and then what? This Stalnist technique of "erasing" historical figures based on some dimwitted misunderstanding of history will ultimately cut both ways and will not only ruin our country but impoverish it culturally. These Leftist lunatics don't understand this either and this is precisely the reason why everyone who opposes the idea of toppling down Columbus' (or any other historical figure) monuments, should double their efforts to stop this.

@clevergirlaah1251

Жыл бұрын

They want no culture. Only the state.

@anabegins7349

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. I strongly believe all the art must be preserved because it helps you understand that time, even the statues of evil people. I mean, think of the Aztekas, of all the art that reached this day. Should all have been destroyed because of their genocide? We now see those monstruos masks and sculptures and they are astonishing. The other day, I learned that an obstructed object found there, had been reproduced with a 3D printer. It was a whistle and the sound is the scariest one I have ever heard. It made the scary shout of a woman.

What a wonderfully jolly and interesting chap

@pablopumarestaminiau7512

Жыл бұрын

Yes, reminds me Mary Poppins' Uncle Albert

@tm3008

Жыл бұрын

A pompous throw back, like Professor Henry Higgins!

@acm1137

Жыл бұрын

@@tm3008 Hardly.

What an amazing deeply knowledgeable charismatic lecture. I'd love to have been his student! 👏👏👏

Absolutely delightful and informative conversation. Loving the show!

Love all the episodes of “Uncancelled history”. Hope they continue after the 10th episode. Thank you so much! 🙏❤

Thank you again. Another enlightening talk. These explorers were the astronautes of their time. It’s such a shame the current world judges history by our current advantages, not by the knowledge of the time.

Great episode! When I heard Douglas introduce a Felipe Fernandez-Arnesto, I wasn't expecting him to sound like that!

Douglas. In terms of revivifying "cancelled" history: please contact Tom Woods. I think he could point to many things and guarantee at least a few seasons more of this wonderful show. Tom is a free thinking history phd who has been thinking for decades "outside the 3 by 5 card of allowable opinion" to use one of his own phrases. In any case: Thank You

Thank you so much for these informative videos!! I’m enjoying them very much!

@douglasmurray

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Another excellent presentation...absolutely riveting.

Just subscribed & looking foward to hearing Douglas at his craft. All the best folks.🎉

Thank you Douglas - Love all your work - this series bringing wonderful perspectives from your choice of scholars is engaging to watch ‼️ This one has . . . Shall we say . . . has “British enthusiasm “ that is fun & valuable 😊to the conversation

It's also interesting that ancient Greek and Roman writers both held that the Oceanic boundaries outside the known world were populated by monstrous creatures who on many instances were virtuously superior beings. The kunokephales were dog-headed men but ironically an inversion of the Greek way of life and therefore more virtuous. Far from xenophobic, there is an ambiguity to the ancient mind.

Very serious and guickly flows into an energetic and excited mood. He actually likes his subject

Brilliant conversation Thank you

This guy speaks the way I do in my dreams when I'm trying to talk but nothing comes out and none of the other characters are listening.

@talonr7818

8 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 Me, too

@cecilefox9136

4 ай бұрын

He' s a foreigner.

Superb conversation, exploring profound people and ideas

Fantastic. Needs more views. So strange that people believe in cultural relativism without recognizing temporal relativism.

@WhizzingFish12

Жыл бұрын

What a great turn of phrase! I love the term "temporal relativism." I always tell people that the people they judge were products of their age and environment just as we are - this is such a pithy encapsulation of that idea. Well done and I am totally going to steal it! :-)

@tetrapharmakos8868

Жыл бұрын

@@WhizzingFish12 Thank you! I've been saying it for years but it hasn't caught on yet!

Such sound advice on toleration! May Felipe be heard beyond Notre-Dame.

Such an entertaining and educational series! I wish Google Podcast let you rate the podcast you listen to. Keep up the phenomenal work Douglas!

Great interview. The professor is a special guy an example of what a professor should be.

This is the first episode i wasn't surprised by anything. Historic people were much worse represented in my education and media than diserved...

@KrolPotato

Жыл бұрын

We need more Felipes in schools: not just a brilliant guy but seems like easy going and probably mixes a lot of chuckling into his lectures. Would listen for hours...

How in the world I had to stumble upon this podcast 10 months into its creation is proof positive that the algo is being jimmied around with. No way history + Douglas Murray should've gone un-recommended.

Agree - rather than taking everything down, we should be adding new statues, public art etc to celebrate everyone

@MrTerrorFace

5 ай бұрын

That's the problem with postmodernism; it can only destroy, never create.

This gentleman does have an extraordinary enthusiasm for his subject.

Interesting. When I did my undergraduate degree I did some history of latin america classes (taught by a Chilean) and no it wasn't tainted by the current poisoning. But the professor teaching us insisted the opposite of Felipe. The British and to a lesser extent the French were by-and-large more respectful and investment based in their colonies than the Spanish colonies which followed an exploitation rather than development route. Not sure who to believe, but I enjoyed hearing the opposite perspective. For instance we learned the term "blue blood" came from the exploitative Spanish nobility from Spain as opposed to the mixed and "indio" the nobles from Spain had light enough skin that you could see their veins, their "blue blood".

@BotanicalJourney

Жыл бұрын

I enjoy Ferdendez-Armesto's work and I admire him for doing "pop" audience interviews such as this one (and for writing rigorous, high quality history for the pop audience, which he has done). Clearly, he's painting here with broad strokes. His written work has much more nuance. At times, unfortunately, he does come across as an apologist for Spanish colonization in the Western Hemisphere. A full reading of his work suggests that he isn't, but the point you raise could be viewed that way. I think what he's trying to convey is that the Spanish, by and large (the cone of South America being an exception), operated in geographies that were not hospitable to large-scale European settlement and so they had no choice but to work with local populations who they were fully interested in keeping alive, if only to manipulate and exploit for their labor. Whereas, in North America, the geography and climate was hospitable to British settlement. So, the British didn't "need" the indigenous people and moreover, pursued paths of extermination. Of course, the British have long held the opposite: that they were the more noble in their settlement of North America, whereas the Spanish were uniquely cruel. At any rate, I think Fernandez-Armesto's view is consistent with your professor's---that is, I think he would agree that Spanish activity in the New World (with some notable exceptions) was exploitative and to be exploitative meant they had to work with the societies they encountered.

Loved that you reference to The Sopranos because I do believe it brought the “Columbus debate” to the attention of the American masses.

Thank you for such hi quality programming. I love the conversation.

Uncancelling monetary history would be very useful I think. The folks at the Mises Institute would eager to help with that. They have been trying to uncancel and revive a branch of economics known as "the austrian school". This branch tries to understand economic processes and does not always arrive at conclusions that justify central management and control over economies and the money that serves as the lifeblood of the economy.

@TheBrianna4555

Жыл бұрын

^ YES.

@willboudreau1187

8 ай бұрын

Wow, I didn't know there were any people left in the world who thought like you (and me). Tip o' the hat.

Very fascinating! Thank you.

Brilliant! Love everything Douglas Murray.

Gracias, don Douglas y don Felipe.

This gentleman was delightful and knowledgeable. On a sode note, he is what I expect a stereotypical British history professor to sound like. It is kind of endearing.

Charles Murray is such a quality person and thinker. Now I see he is an amazing interviewer. He lets his guest speak. Then asks a question to get them started on a new tack. He is the best interview, and the best interviewer. Keep it up, Charles. This is one of the most interesting interviews I have ever seen.

Thank you both.

I love his enthusiasm 👏👏👏

Thank you both

Brilliant thanks!

He's an amazing toff, but I am all for it. Keep it up old boy.

Because the Aztecs were so peaceful.

@captainadams8565

Жыл бұрын

Apart from the human sacrifice.

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536

Жыл бұрын

Love the snark Glove!

@sgassocsg

Жыл бұрын

No no, human sacrifice is nothing….these fuckers held children in cages to fatten then eat them, never their own children, always lesser tribes….children of a lesser god.

What a jolly fellow

Listening to this guest really makes me want to stroke my beard, smoke a pipe and say interesting words like ... "indubitably and quite" Wish i had an history teacher like this man.

Douglas Murray and Thomas Sowell need to be part of the US school curriculum. Thank you.

Please do more of these

Hahaha this guy was great!

Informative brilliant entertaining thought provoking

I didn't know Robert De Niro taught history with an English accent. Good job Rob!

Very insightfu!

Interesting information. I am enjoying these uncanceled history episodes. When I mock an English accent, I use this guy's accent. It's the quintessential snobbish English professorial accent that Americans use to poke fun at the English...to the point where once in a while I can't even understand what the guy is saying.

Ha! I love that he's laughing the whole time! It shows his passion for his subjects and how personally he got to know them through his research.

Excellent as always! ‘Poor’ professor - he thinks “we are what we read” - in a world full of ‘we are what is trending on TikTok’ 😢😢😢

How little I really know. Thank you again.

They were after money. The countless amazing events and experiences that took place are another thing..... But ultimately avarice is what drove them.

@michaelkearney3646

7 ай бұрын

Yes. The great explorers were driven by the same impulses that drove the financial oligarchs of the Gilded Age and the tech giants and others like them of today: money (and power). The old saw is that technology changes but people don't. What a surprise...

Love this discussion topic but, man, I couldnt keep from thinking of the "Upper-Class Twit of the Year" sketch.

Id love to see an episode on Capt Cook. Cook was similar in many ways to Columbus, he overcame prejudice too and had very sympathetic and advanced views towards indigenous people. The woke propaganda about Cook is typically uninformed and foolish.

"I'm not justifying their colonizing..." "No, please do."

Is it my imagination, or does Douglas just get cuter all the time? ❤

I wonder what Columbus knew of the Phoenicians travels.

'they have women on their borders which shows they are in a state of conflict' i listened to that 10 times. it is still funny

Poor Douglas looks a little worn out by his guest's rollicking hilarity! Fascinating series though, and DM sets each episode up beautifully. Kudos also to Mr. Murray for not squeezing his own thoughts and words out of Mr. Fernandez-Armesto. You just know that DM does not agree whole-heartedly with FF-A's opinions on colonialism - but leaves that subject for another episode and accords his guest the courtesy of speaking his own mind.

At first I thought I was going to hate his accent because it’s so stereotypical but omg I could listen to this guy talk for a hundred years

That Halifax pushed for peace and Dominion status in India, adapted to secure better relations with the US (unlike Keynes?) has to be a major plus. His tendency to negotiate with Hitler is I believe the other side of the same coin. I appreciate this documentary for providing new insights and understanding of a complex subject and character

A recommedation for a detailed first person history of Columbus and Cortes is the book " Conquistador Voices" by Kevin H. Siepel.

The moment they tried to pin the Jews with Columbus it was the nadir of his reputation. Thank you for this excellent and I would say fair overview

That was great. This blokes having a whale of a time 👍😂

This guy makes learning fun

So interesting and a great story teller. I can imagine how BLM would react to Columbus finding the "Natives" had their own slaves, putting the "Original sin" of slavery not the colonist but on the Indigenous Indian tribes. Not unlike African tribes who owned slaves.

What an exceedingly British fellow.

This guy is hilarious