Navarre has a bunch of great accessories for the oldtown seat risers definitely made it more comfortable

@glxbe

6 ай бұрын

Gramps clued me into a company called Yak Hobby that has a bunch of old town mods as well

@noahbeu1515

6 ай бұрын

@glxbe yak hobby has a couple things i like more than navarre but i personally feel navarre has more rugged design in most of there parts and came up with shome awesome parts for the PDL models

@GrimReaper68440

6 ай бұрын

I purchased my Bigwater 132pdl because of watching Navarre kayak fishing.

I got a used 106 pdl sportsman last year for $1800. The guy only had it a couple of months and it was like new. I spent 100$ on a spare propeller,an insert for the hole where the pdl goes, a stainless steel bolt for the rudder, and some spare pins for the propeller from Navarre kayak fishing. I sold my RS117 and haven't looked back. I love fishing out of it. 👊👍

Nick with Navarre Kayak is the go-to guy for tons of custom parts for Old Town kayaks. Also YakAttack has great accessories including the Switchblade to side mount your transducer.

Navarre kayak fishing is a HUGE old town guy and makes 3D parts for it. He also has a video on putting a fish finder on an old town without having to drill into your kayak.

@dyakr4368

6 ай бұрын

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I have two kayaks, a 2020 Hobie Outback and a 2020 Wilderness Tarpon. I got the Tarpon first but got tired of paddling long distances. I finally splurged and bought a Bixpy electric drive ($1500). It was great but the Hobie was so heavy to get on top of my 4Runner. Even launching over the bulkhead at my house on the bayou. I have now mounted the Bixpy on my Tarpon. Easy to launch (65 pound Tarpon verses 120 pound Outback). I can go long distances effortlessly at 5 mph. I can steer the motor so having no rudder is not a problem. I don’t fish big lakes so stability is not an issue (Hobie is noticeably more stable). The Tarpon is designed to paddle so it is very nimble in the saltwater marshes I fish, and if the drive stops (I got a fishing line hopelessly wrapped on the prop once) it is not a barge to paddle home. I have had no problems with the Bixpy in the two years I’ve owned it. Very well made and engineered. I probably fish 75 times a year.

I have the old town 136 autopilot... words..amazing ! Allows me to do more fishing and less fumbling around with wind, current, and a can troll comfortably. old town is the way to go.. great video guys 👍👍👍👍👍

On 132 ,I put back of my rod under seat little space and lay down, and with scupper plug ,it stays dry,only time water rise is when stand up at the tip.

I upgraded this year to the 136 autopilot from an 11.5 Feel free. Old Town is Legit. 136:is super Stable. At 50 years old I don't stand in fish in a kayak but for the younger nimble this kayak is very doable for that. The Minn kota with spot lock is super amazing. I was lucky to get it $1,000 under retail due to it being a floor model. Definitely a kayak you want to trailer and I do with a nice little Malone setup. Just recently found your channel. Love the content..I also have the wilderness system crate though I am thinking about picking up the 16x16 black pack as it is more accessorizable.

Been running my 106pdl for 3 seasons now... got it all dialed in the way I like it... most stable 10 footer on the market...luv mine

I have the 106PDL and a AP120 and I dont notice any difference in standing stability between them. The 106PDL is an amazing machine and I dont think there was anything it couldnt do over the 120 other than a slight more storage and weight capacity. I have some mod videos if you are interested.

One thing about the Oldtown is it’s Rudder flex in strong current. It needs to address the small weak rudder. Plus when deploying it just doesn’t work well (dropping down). I hope they come out with an new kayak model that more easily to upgrade instead of having to drill into your hull.

On the old town when you took the support board out, put the screws back in the seat track. Depending on where you sit will help keep the track from flexing.

I'm going to go with either a Nucanoe Unlimited or the little skiff they sell at the TinyBoatNation store. I currently have a DIYak made from a 10.5' foam sailboat hull. It's not streamlined and requires a rudder and a keel. Made a drop-in keel and a fold down, fixed rudder from wood. Mounted steel rails to it for seat and accessory mounting, and have a bass boat fold down swivel seat on it. It's ok, but I wouldn't take it anywhere remotely far or in even slightly rough water. No rivers for me at the moment.

I got the topwater 120 paddle version with the Nk180 motor. Power by two ionic 12v 50ahr and 12v 12ahr ionic mounted in the front hatch it been great for me.

Buy a lot of the accessories that Navarre Kayak sells. They make a big difference. Seat risers, Steering knob and the Rudder bolt are the top 3.

Just got my 120PDL today and wow I am impressed already. The quality is much better than any kayak I have ever owned and I have not even got it on the water yet. Was surprised too with no seat and drive installed it's not crazy heavy. Comparing that to my dad's Hobie he got, that thing is insanely heavy. Look forward to all your upcoming vids for these kayaks!

Interesting designs . Major issue I see with ped-yaks is NO weedless props and NO anti-foul weed cutter blades on any made.

Hey boys, I have a Bigwater 132pdl, so stable I love it. I'm excited to see you guys build these new Oldtown kayaks.

I run a Sportsman 120PDL for a few years now, love it!! I also have a Helix5 G2 with SI, and it fits well protected inside the indent in the hull and still allows side imaging.

Trans bring up add pvc and bungee, than no whole. I got my 132 for sale $900 I went to peddle. I love the 132 very stable.

I think you'd only have issues with Lowrance side imaging. The current Hummingbird (Old Town's brother brand) and Garmin side imaging transducer should fit there.

Navarre Kayak makes a metal rudder to replace the stock flexing plastic rudder

You're going to love foot pedal steering. Total game changer!

good luck opening that center hatch with a fishfinder mounted on it. :) Nice reviews, I have to admit the forward facing rod holder is something I'm jealous of

I have a 106 MK and put a XI3 on the bow. To me it’s the best setup possible.

I've had my PLD106 for 1 year and use it at both extremes of trolling deep water with a downrigger and sight fishing shallow panfish. I only wish it was faster. Of the entire PDL lineup it is the slowest hull. The number 1 mod for a PDL are the pedals. You can swap out the foam covered plastic pedals for any mountain bike pedals. Bike pedals have more grip and and are much smoother with bearings.

Yak Hobby has some amazing add ons. Seat risers, drive spacers, transduder mounts. The transducer mount is a must have!!

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Dope!

Check out Navarre Kayak's mod's for Old town kayaks. They have some slick stuff.

I had a native titan 10 and I eventually switched over to the old town sportsman 106 and I’m so much happier with it I totally love it! Aside from the better steering and better pedal drive I am so happy with the under seat storage and the little hatch in the drive is super convenient! Also if your looking for some good stuff I recommend Navarre kayak he sells some cool stuff for mounting your anchor wizard In the front or back

I put a Plano guide series 3600 box for my 18AH battery in the hull under the seat. It’s slides in perfectly and I leash it to the lid so it can’t slide anywhere

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Sick

Enjoy guys, have fun, like the honest content, look forward to on water review

i slide an oil changing pan under seat. Its nice to drop lures, pro cure, leader etc when changing rigs so it doesn't fall out.

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Great idea!

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Smart!

Looking forward to the fix ups and adventures guys.

nice boats guys... great review... 99 days till spring!!

Cant wait to see your build with motor on this boat thanks for sharing.

Very nice guys! Thanks for sharing another nice video! Keep up the good work!

You're going to love the PDL.

Yak hobby has a lot of accessories for old town including transducer mounts

The one way scupper plugs actually work extremely well, evacuating water, on the Predator. Keep them in. Some people don’t like them, I loved them. Just take them out occasionally and flush out the dirt. There’s a little rubber disk on the bottom to allow water out but not back in.

Two great rigs! Thanks for sharing!

I would love to have a old Town kayak but it's more then I can afford great video and great tips on the kayak

I have a 106 pdl and did not know that it had a rod holder. Doh!

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

We got you 🤝🏼

Thanks for the advice on the hobbies 👋. Have the 106 pdl since 2020 it’s an amazing machine. Get the propeller plastic nut from navarre kayak fishing. Keep your rotor aligned straight when bringing it up and down. Carry extra propeller pins . Had fish everywhere saltwater no problem, normal maintenance. Cheers

I can just hear the wives... "Merry Christmas, don't ask for anything else for a very long while!!!!" Great yaks fellas, looking forward to how you enjoy them in 2024!

@ch33kz

6 ай бұрын

Old Town gave them these kayaks for reviewing and promoting

@FounderOf4

6 ай бұрын

​@@ch33kzhey there fella, thanks for pointing out that you don't understand my humor. I'll try to bring it down a few levels for you next time.

@ch33kz

6 ай бұрын

@@FounderOf4 thanks appreciate it, your not very funny but pretty dam considerate 👍

@FounderOf4

6 ай бұрын

@@ch33kz I'm always trying to look out for those who cannot do for themselves.. Just jabbing you, hope you have a great day!

@ch33kz

6 ай бұрын

@@FounderOf4 All good, Merry Christmas buddy, thanks for the cool response 🤝

Really nice boats. I use a sling blade for my transducer. YakAttack and RailBlaza both make one that will articulate on the side of the boat. It secures to the gear track. It also makes it easily transportable if you want to quickly throw it on another boat. Just a thought.

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Good call

The musical buildup of Paul talking about his lifting was the greatest thing ever 😂

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Jeff’s new favorite thing

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

I died when I edited that lol

@dash_n_cast

6 ай бұрын

@@aaanglers I definitely watched that part a few times 😂

Love the videos. Knowing your weight helps in a medical emergency where most meds are calculated by weight of patient 😉

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

I get weighed at Dr. checkups every 6 months or so… check

@scottstanfieldoutdoors

6 ай бұрын

Sorry to much medical training in my life.. mega nerd… Love the content and the friendship you guys share with us. Keep it up 🎣 🇺🇸

Nothing says 'Michigan Fishermen' than one guy in Mucks and the other in Crocs... formal garage wear

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Hahaha nailed it 😂😂

Thanks

Nice! 👊

Both are cool yaks. I don't know much about either. So just had to many problems with Hobie 360? Or just wanted to try something else? The 360 drive seems like earlier ones had more issues & newer drives are better. Like all things. They will be improved over time. I've only owned Hobies pa12s over past 10 years. Including 360. In my experience with regular maintenance which isn't that much. They have been reliable. But like all things, will eventually break or have issues needing fixed over time. I fish 1-2 days a week 12 months out of the year. Good luck with new yaks, I'm interested in seeing how they fish& preform.

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Little bit of both with why we switched, glad you didn’t have any issues!

I’m pumped. I’ve watched you guys since the beginning and only videos I skipped were the Hobie and FF ones. Just too big and too much 💵 for me and while I don’t have any issues with FF sonar, I’ve decided my kayaks will be tech free zones. I need somewhere I’m not plugged in you know. I’m currently looking at the 106pdl as a possible next bday present for myself.

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Totally makes sense

Would like to see how much you notice the weeds

Considering to step up to the PDL version of the 106. When you say "big water" how Big is big? Love the versatility of the 106 PDL and really only want one old town yak to get about a mile offshore into Lake Michigan for lake trout, browns or onto Green Bay for smallies & walleye. The 120 might too big/heavy for my other fishing needs so hope the 106 will cover me.Tks for the vid and look forward to your reviews.

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

I was on Mille lacs which is big for an inland lake

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

I’d want the 12ft for Lake Michigan or the Bigwater pdl

Jeff that center console is nice but i'm curious how you like it in the long run. That's very similar to the Vibe Seaghost and was the main reason I got rid of mine. It sort of just gets annoying to have less freedom of movement for your toesies

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

We will see, i also might not stand that much in this one

Question I’ve got a future beach not sure the length but the seat sits in the bottom of the kayak I’m already planning on building a set of diy out riggers but I haven’t been able to find a seat wide enough to fit across the sides to give me a little height to allow me easy entry and exit I’m 57 years old so that’s why I need a higher seat

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Sorry, no idea on this one!

I used to be team Hobie but after selling my PA14 for a autopilot136 it made me realize Oldtown is much better in many ways lol

Nice review! Hey question why not put the xi3 trolling motor on the front so you can have the spot lock? Is there a motor you can put on the back to have spot lock?

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

That is an option! Might consider it. No rear mount spot locks that I know of

@waterboy5164

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting back ive been watching all of you guys videos learning about kayaks. Question old town says to store the kayak upside down on saw horses for long term storage. is that really necessary?? Can I leave it in my storage unit on the floor I have a moving blanket under it?? Do you think I should add some sort of foam instead or not necessary? Thanks

Did you guys happen to look at the Recon HD to compare?

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Yeah we sure did! I would pick the sportsman over it though. Plus Wilderness systems doesn’t work with anyone really.

To me that front hatch is way more water resistant than any Hobie. I have had them both. My old towns never got water in the hull.

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Oh for sure better than the Hobie.

You guys ever look into the feel free kayaks?

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

We have, just haven’t picked one up

How’s the legroom in the 106 compared to the 120?

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Almost identical

I have the Sportsman 120 PDL and a couple of notes: One other plus for the Old Town PDL is the 5 Yr Warranty on the drive (vs the Hobie 2yr) and Limited Lifetime warranty on the hull. Also, you can take your string that connects your seat adjustment and un-velcro that front section to tuck the string out of the way from the under-seat storage area. Finally, the drive unit floats if it pops out of your kayak (if you happen to tip and it wasn't locked in). Some nice perks.

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Nice!

One more question, why the 106pdl and not the 106mk?

@aaanglers

5 ай бұрын

Different purpose for where we fish. We will have alternative motor kayaks

I can see a sweet spot for the boonedox at Paul's kayak, but where will be the mounting point on Jeff's? I'm pretty curious to see your solutions!

@aaanglers

4 ай бұрын

I won’t put wheels on mine. Just using a cart

@peterheinrichs7634

4 ай бұрын

@@aaanglers Oh! I didn't expect that! I'd guess, these kayaks will be very heavy rigged and they'll gain a lot of weight? I'm looking forward to see you trying out and how it will work for you. :-)

@aaanglers

4 ай бұрын

@peterheinrichs7634 Im not utting the newport on this one anymore. Possibly an ultralight motor, bit that would be it

Hey I love your channel, I’m a northern boy myself from the lovely Hoosier State just trying to get into kayak fishing because my brother suggested it. I am 6’4” 235lbs and I want to get an old town sportsman but should I go with the 106 or 120? There isn’t a spot near me to try out either of them in the water but I was able to sit in the 106 in the store. I’m worried about stability being as I am so tall, less worried about the weight aspect

@aaanglers

3 ай бұрын

Stability is similar between the 2. Mainly just the amount of storage changes

@JerryTucker-ql6to

3 ай бұрын

@@aaanglers thank you! Keep making the videos please! I’m excited to follow your 2024 builds

@aaanglers

3 ай бұрын

🙌

When you putting an anchor wizard on that PDL? I want to see how you decide to do it.

@aaanglers

4 ай бұрын

You will see when we get to build it out in March. We are using a Navarre accessory

@JJ-pg4ud

4 ай бұрын

@@aaanglers He makes great stuff! I’ve bought quite a bit from them. The $70 for the mounting kit kind of hurts my wallet. But, I guess that is the life of a kayak fisherman! LOL.

Why not go with the oldtown 130 auto pilot 360 boat ?

@aaanglers

5 ай бұрын

You mean the 136? Different plans is all.

Actually old towns autopilot cup holders don't drain its one of the biggest complaints about it and one of the reasons I wouldn't buy it although there is a fix for it by drilling a hole in the bottom and running some tubing to the battery well and having it drain out there

What no mice?

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Got em!

The "rod holder" part on the hull is the only thing i dont like about my oldtown

@ST-hs7vz

6 ай бұрын

U can get a track mount to go into those holes from Navarre, that’s what I did

@noahbeu1515

6 ай бұрын

@ST-hs7vz huh? Im talking about under the seat i wish it was open under there

This was a good video man. I like both kayak. I am looking for a pedal drive kayak but I can't get one because I have big very very Extremely wide feet 🦶 with very chubby fat wide toes that are Evenly straight across making my foot very very Extremely wide at 6 1/2 inches wide from my big toe to my lil toe & the pedal are not wide enough for my 6 1/2 inches wide feet 🦶 I have. I can't find any wide pedal or anything that would work. I do have a question? I like the sandals you was wearing in the video at 1:50. What kind of sandals are those cuz I would like to get me a pair. I have to kayak barefooted 👣 because I can only wear flip flops 🩴& Flip flops 🩴 is the only footwear that will barely and I mean barely fit on my feet 🦶 because my toes are wider than the flip flops 🩴straps & I don't want to break the only footwear that will barely fit me. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

These are the Chaco Chili’s clog

@mackjenkins7721

6 ай бұрын

@paulglass7268 Oh OK. Those are Chaco chili's clog sandals. Are they true to size? I am going to check them out on there website.

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

@@mackjenkins7721 yup they were for me

Why not get the 120

@aaanglers

23 күн бұрын

Smaller footprint, lighter rig

So you will have a motor and your buddy will have none. So much for fishing together

@aaanglers

6 ай бұрын

Hes putting one on his lite tackle 2 actually

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

I been biking a lot lately in preparation 😂for

But that is just too much money my big fish 108 pedal kayak is better stability

@aaanglers

3 ай бұрын

That is an opinion

A kayak with any kind of motor it's not kayak any more .... I'm sorry but this is my opinion ....

@aaanglers

4 ай бұрын

Cool opinion… still gonna do it

20:20 🙋🏾‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣 definitely need the tool box!!!! Infamous Maine! 🦹🏾

@paulglass7268

6 ай бұрын

Bahaha love ya bro 🤘🏼