Fantastic review, I love the inboxing format

Thanks, Tim! I’m traveling right now but my Perception arrived after I left and is waiting for me to get home and open it. This was a great preview.

@ahamilton1305

4 ай бұрын

How was it?

@profaltman

4 ай бұрын

@@ahamilton1305 Thanks for asking. I love it-boxing is great (as you can see from video above) and watch is absolutely beautiful.

@yuchaoWang7819

3 ай бұрын

which color did you get

@profaltman

3 ай бұрын

@@yuchaoWang7819 Salmon! Got a compliment from a non-watch person yesterday. That’s rare in my experience.

Thank you for this unboxing. WONDERFUL looking wrist watch. Chinese craftmanship at its best. LOVE the VC 222 inspired bracelet!

Just got mine. Thanks Tim

I get Sarpaneva vibs from this watch. The case shape and the dial say that to me. Nice watch. Something different certainly.

@davidr2802

5 ай бұрын

It also has a tuned down lug profile that is Czapek like. No surprising. In traditional Chinese culture emulation not invention is the motivation.

+-10spd is, in my experience, exceedingly rare in even "premium" Seiko movements. That aside, I hate the caseback on this thing. If you're not going to show the full movement, just put a solid caseback.

@HRM.H

5 ай бұрын

Thats because Seiko never regulates their watches. They come up regulated from factory. This is regulated from factory.

Fun fact: dandong peacock make the best clone movements in those rolex superclones and aps and pps you keep seeing

@slateization

5 ай бұрын

Really? What else do they make? I really want to know other legit manufacturers they might supply

@vali69

4 ай бұрын

@@slateization I know they supply some of these cloned movements unengraved to be used by other manufacturers in their watches who can engrave their name and whatever they want on it. But I don't know any of those manufacturers or watches, I haven't looked at all into this, but I guess it would be stuff like the watch from this video.

@replayrevenge

4 ай бұрын

​@@slateization i know them for making the best version clone, like the gen 3235 mvment, which hour reserve 70h+

Atleast they are honest about their part sourcing. The same cant be said for many other microbrands

@KC-bv9kf

5 ай бұрын

The same can’t be said for most brands, not just micro

@remus2001

5 ай бұрын

@@KC-bv9kf Very true. A lot of "Swiss Made" watches have Swiss movements in Chinese cases, dials, and bracelets.

Absolutely gorgeous dial, well thought out presentation, and the bracelet and clasp look fantastic! The movement may leave something to be desired, but no watch is perfect (especially at this price point). I wonder how this would look on my gorilla-sized 8” wrist. 🤔

Nice ! The design isn't for me, like you said it looks like many other watches however that is very well executed. That dial....man they did a good job on that. Chinese people are very skilled and love the small details, this is a great example of that. Very impressive ! The movement is the let down though.

That is extremely impressive. I do wish they had chosen a different movement, maybe a La Joux Perret or even a Miyota 90S5 but I suppose I get the instinct to keep it all Chinese. The one thing I wonder, if this is the brand with the cave-guilloche. Either way, they did a great job with this, even the presentation is top notch.

@the1916companywatchreviews

5 ай бұрын

It's by Cheng Yu Cai, so I'd say "yes" to the above. Best, Tim

The exterior is fantastic. I feel as though spending a thousand more for a meaningfully better movement would significantly elevate its appeal. Personally I can't spend that asking price for a watch that lacks so much on the timekeeping front.

Oh, these are shot on iphones? I really didn't know. Man, smartphone cameras have come a long way. I should upgrade my note 10 plus someday.

The rotor should be Chinese lacquer-red as a kind of Easter egg with a dragon mouth that is suddenly red and ferocious

This is certainly an interesting independent piece. I will say that omitting hacking seconds at this price point just seems odd in 2024, so I hope they can change that. I love that caseback design with the small window showing the balance - great touch. A boutique microbrand with true artisanal qualities is always something to celebrate, and I look forward to seeing their growth as well as the "all the best stuff comes from China" future.

@remus2001

5 ай бұрын

I wonder if omitting hacking seconds is their way to suggest that they belong among the high-end brands like Patek and Vacheron that still eschew hacking seconds.

@pgen62

5 ай бұрын

JLC Reverso duo face classic medium does not hack at that price point.

Thanks for an excellent review. I’ve ordered one and am very much looking forward to receiving it.

@ahamilton1305

4 ай бұрын

Did you receive it? Happy?

@annabelrobin294

4 ай бұрын

@@ahamilton1305 Haven’t received it yet.

Are they limited edition? Each dial color a separate limited edition? If so, what is the limit? Or no - ??

@markfeldman612

4 ай бұрын

They're not limited but they only make so many (I think around 250 each color)... there's no way to mass produce them with a handmade dial.

They actualy use 904 ?

@MES1808NYC

3 ай бұрын

Yes, the watch is 904 steel, which is kind of a gimmick really. Slightly more corrosion resistant, which could be important if you spend a lot of time in salt water I guess.

Interesting review. The watch looks good and I trust that the quality will be fine. But the price is quite high for a Microbrand. There is no boutique where I could try it first on my wrist. I'm also wondering who is doing the service, once needed. Doesn't feel comfortable to send it back to China each time.

@HRM.H

5 ай бұрын

Its a quite simple movement. Any experienced watchmaker should be able to work on it

@markhammerschmidt5315

5 ай бұрын

It doesn’t need to go back to China as there’s a network of people arranged to look after servicing etc.

@MES1808NYC

3 ай бұрын

@@HRM.H But many watchmakers won't work on a Chinese (or Russian) movement.

That looks like a flat crystal. Page 26 of the booklet says double-domed sapphire.

@markhammerschmidt5315

5 ай бұрын

It’s not flat. Very lightly domed so the description is correct

It's a nice watch. However, I'll be saving my money for my grail watch.

Isn’t it crazy Rolex only gives you a plastic box on a 10k+ watch. 😂

@MES1808NYC

3 ай бұрын

Rolex spends all the money on the watch, which is how I like it. I wish this watch came in a plastic box and had hacking on the movement. Who cares about the package? Just an environmental waste in this era. Gorilla watches have the best packaging -- two pieces of black foam and a cardboard sleeve!

@PocketWatchTime

3 ай бұрын

@@MES1808NYC I agree with you… I’m not a big box fan either. I’d much rather have a nice leather sleeve or even a travel watch pod. The problem for me is Rolex charging over $10,000 for a watch that’s machine made and doesn’t cost more than a grand… a $10 plastic box just seems like a slap in the face.

QTWTAIN

"Piao" basically means floating in Chinese.

@the1916companywatchreviews

5 ай бұрын

Much appreciated. For French language watch terms, I'm set. Chinese might be permanently beyond my grasp. Best, Tim

@davidr2802

5 ай бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews I started learning Mandarin in my mid 30s. It can done!

3k is worth a shot. Send it

I have a Timex piece made in China.

I just received my Perception v2. Here's my take. Ultimately, the watch is a Chinese watch, but it is also a really good Chinese watch! For those of us who own a number of high-end luxury watches this watch is going to disappoint in hand. It is undeniably "jangly" in a way that an AP or a Rolex is not. If you've handled a Dietrich TC-1, just as an example, the Atelier Wen bracelet is not as good. If you've ever handled the bracelet on a Pelton Perseus, you will be HIGHLY disappointed here. The Pelton bracelet, for comparison, feels 100 times better. The Pelton machining tolerances are WAY better than on this Atelier Wen. Keep in mind, that a Pelton bracelet is better than an AP Royal Oak bracelet!! Anyway, I digress. The Atelier Wen movement is noisy - much closer to a Miyota than an ETA. It does not wobble though. Winding is solid but not buttery. You know you are winding a Chinese movement. The dial is the star of the show and, maybe, the only star on the cast. The dials are truly BEAUTIFUL. The lume is also really decent. The Atelier Wen Perception, for me, is about on par with Christopher Ward in the end. For example, the Christopher Ward Twelve doesn't deliver this "handmade" dial but it DOES give you a Swiss movement and a titanium option. This Atelier Wen delivers a stunning hand-crafted dial, but does so at the expense of the movement - you're getting a Chinese movement that looks and feels "Chinese". So, let's say between the Christopher Ward Twelve and the Atelier Wen Perception, I'd say go CW if you care about the engine and go AW if you care more about the dial architecture. If you're the type of guy that's happy with a Christopher Ward, you will likely love this watch. If you're more a Rolex or even a Breitling type guy, I think you'll be disappointed with an Atelier Wen. Just doesn't feel like a $3000 watch.

@TemplarLove

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the honest review. I will never pay so much for a Chinese brand.

The link to the case is poorly fitted. And 42 hr power reserve? On a new watch movement? That’s like trying to sell a car with a 3 speed automatic these days. You can buy pre - owned Tudor, Oris, etc., for the same - or less…

@markfeldman612

4 ай бұрын

Oris? lol

@MES1808NYC

3 ай бұрын

Many watches still use movements in the 42 hr range, including some over 10K$.

I don’t like the case shape, the integrated band and the case back is an abomination. The dial is nice looking. The accuracy seems lacking for the price. 😒

Expensive, for an organizer box.

@ahamilton1305

4 ай бұрын

Rumour has it they give you a watch

Sure does sound like a paid advertisement

@rousseau327

5 ай бұрын

No more so than any other watch review Watchbox does

Watch lacks character,and for $3,000 bucks for an unknown is risky, it’s safer to buy a Seiko,Longines,Oris,,etc

@rousseau327

5 ай бұрын

Kind of contradictory to say this watch lacks character, then list safer options, don't you think? While nowhere near the level of the 3 brands you mentioned, Atelier Wen has been around the block in the microbrand sphere already with their porcelain dial watches.

I got one, just not this specific model. The nightmare begins with their order fulfillment; it takes months to receive mine while the founder just kept giving empty promises on the delivery date. The watches themselves are nothing to shout about but cheaply made. Sharp edges around the watch cases and a moving crown while adjusting (you can see it from the video as well).

@markhammerschmidt5315

5 ай бұрын

And you know that because you’ve actually got one or seen one or because you’re just in the habit of making fatuous statements on KZread reviews.

@markhammerschmidt5315

5 ай бұрын

Yes they do take time to deliver as the dials are very complex and take time to make and that would have been more than adequately conveyed to all buyers at the time of ordering. I’m assuming you are part of the dedicated WhatsApp chat group which would allow you to communicate directly with both the founders and the others involved? And as for cheaply made? Please quantify that. Mine doesn’t have sharp edges.

@beanhead47101

5 ай бұрын

Which one did you get? It's a micro brand with heavy demand and all their dials are hand rose engine turned guilloché dials. Do you want a stamped guilloché? Then you can pump them out all day.

@davidr2802

5 ай бұрын

@@markhammerschmidt5315 Objects don't have meaning, we give meaning to objects. so it quite possible that you give this watch more meaning than the other commenter. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Be happy you are happy and empathize with those who are not.

@rousseau327

5 ай бұрын

@@davidr2802 No one is talking about the assigned meaning given to the watch by any one person. What are you rambling on about.

Another competition for Wempe Iron Walker, another failed...

Rather than write a KZread treatise on economics of China, I’ll just say “always pass”.

Oh how the watchbox has fallen lol

"In my private life I'm a economical nationalist, but I live and work and live in a world where our work and hobby has no national boundaries " = Yeah Im racist but Asians got money so i gotta do what i gotta do. lol the Western luxury market/ watch market would literally collapse without the Chinese/Asia market...They literally hold up 50 percent of the market.

@Xiao_PP

5 ай бұрын

The only racist statement is coming from you. Get off you delusional high horse. Nothing wrong with Tims statement