Unaccredited Law Schools - Yay or Nay?

Should law students think about attending unaccredited law schools? Unaccredited schools do have two big pro's but some really big con's.
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  • @jujubee90275
    @jujubee902755 жыл бұрын

    Definitely helpful thank you

  • @bmw320540750
    @bmw3205407504 жыл бұрын

    great review and very helpful.............thanks

  • @pcdihealth
    @pcdihealth4 жыл бұрын

    Great information 👍😊

  • @gerrybrown2552
    @gerrybrown25525 жыл бұрын

    I went to one but using it to teach junior college I think universities want a PHD.....an MBA didn't make sense for me and neither did a master's in accounting....and your right I heard the same things you have discussed .....my end goal was always to be a professor

  • @rozchristopherson648
    @rozchristopherson6484 жыл бұрын

    COVID is here now. Most brick and mortar schools require a great deal of expense maintaining buildings. That’s what a lot of students’ fees are paying for. Due to COVID, even Harvard and Stanford are going online now. You cannot congregate in any buildings now. Online is the wave of the future. If students cannot afford high tuition or need to flexible schedule, online schools are the answer. If there is a way to get any degree, GET IT. Your life and goals will come together at some point and you will walk down the career path that is right for you. I’ve been to some of the best schools in the US and even studied abroad in the UK. I’ve seen many extremely smart people flunk out of top-notch schools and never achieve success. Don’t be afraid to try an alternative, non-traditional path to your goals. In law, you are not completely dependent on law firms, judges, etc accepting you. Carve out a unique path for yourself and you will prosper.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good point. Unfortunately, attorneys are notoriously slow to embrace technology. I do think there should be less stigma with online schools. The teaching quality should not be different whether it's online or in person. If it is, the school is being mismanaged.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    But I will add that finding a way to earn a living in law can be quite difficult. I would not underestimate the task, regardless of where one goes to school. We all got the "alternative career" spiel. It's a good talk but doesn't translate well into reality. There are always exceptions, but I am speaking from my experience and what I have seen with my fellow students and colleagues.

  • @4cme566
    @4cme5663 жыл бұрын

    I am smart graduated at the top of my class but I am not a test taker. LSAT is in my way but the way she phrased that was misleading.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think LSAT is a terrible way to test a person's ability to handle law school. Any normal lawyer will answer a legal question with, "It depends." There is no multiple choice answer IRL. That's why you practice the Socratic method. You have to be able to figure out the real question(s) and then how to answer them. However, all that said, lawyers have to be prepared to deal with unrealistic demands and meet them. Whether that's right or wrong is a different question.

  • @firetoy911
    @firetoy9114 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious, for someone who has passed the UBE and MPRE and becomes licensed in one more states or DC, if there are ABA barriers to application by motion or reciprocity?

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have to look at each state and yes, there are always barriers. You usually have to practice a certain number of years, which disproportionately effects women. Also, you can't just get into another state by reciprocity and then use that to get into another state. For example, I think everyone can get admitted to D.C. So you might think you could use that as a backdoor to get into another state that doesn't have reciprocity with your state. But your target state will likely have a rule that you must have actively practiced in D.C. first.

  • @DavidWilliams-th9pm
    @DavidWilliams-th9pm3 жыл бұрын

    Only 30% of Samford graduates pass the bar. Doesn't sound like that 40k is worth it in 2021. I will take BSOL any day. Work for yourself. Who really wants to be a lawyer that works for someone else?

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great point! What they don't teach you in schools like Cumberland is that whether you get a paycheck or hang out your own shingle, you are an entrepreneur. The question is, who do you want to work for?

  • @stefanierobertson101
    @stefanierobertson1013 жыл бұрын

    I just got accepted into an ABA-unaccredited law school (it is California accredited) and I wanted to know even if I attend the school for one year and transfer to an ABA accredited school, will the same rules apply? I do plan on staying in California

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have to check the rules of each school. I would not assume I could transfer and get credit for prior classes. The ABA is pretty strict. So it might work, just be sure to look at the school you want to end up at later.

  • @nextdaystudios
    @nextdaystudios5 жыл бұрын

    I was considering northwestern California school of law. What is you take about the school ?

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for the late reply but I don't know anything about it. It's much better to ask local lawyers...they're the ones who will - or won't hire you. One thing to look at is whether the professors are practicing attorneys. You can get a goldmine of info from them. But if they hire people who didn't practice very long, to me personally, that speaks volumes about the lack of quality of education.

  • @superman2004ful

    @superman2004ful

    4 жыл бұрын

    Enrolled at American Institute of Law.

  • @dr.josegomez7554
    @dr.josegomez75545 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I wanted to ask, being that both the MS in Legal Studies and the JD online are not accredited by the ABA, would it be cheaper to pursue a Masters of Legal Studies?

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for the very late reply! If you're still looking into it, I'd say it depends. If you want to be an attorney, you really need to focus on a law school in your state. If you want to work in the legal industry without being a licensed attorney, figure out EXACTLY where you want to be in the industry and what the requirements are. Keep in mind that with technology, you may end up in a job that doesn't exist yet.

  • @kas7344
    @kas73443 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Monterey College of Law has a branch in Kern county California they are accredited but not accredited by the American bar of associations......is it worth it going there? I'm considering law school so i can work with the public defenders office or court/DA!

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mostly, like I said in the video, you have to consider what you want for the future. If you have absolutely no plans to go anywhere else, then that make the most sense. It's not that you can never move to another state either. It's just that there is no guarantee you'll be allowed to sit for the bar or that they will accept you on reciprocity. To me, the most important factor is making sure the school prepares you for where and what you want to practice.

  • @tgglenn1628
    @tgglenn16284 жыл бұрын

    I am looking at an online CA law school. I will be able to practice there, but will not live there. I have a deep interest in immigration law (federal). My goal is in my home state (WV) to start an immigration consultation agency...helping with applications etc...and visa help. No matter where I physically reside.....I can represent people in any immigration court, yes? I have no desire to practice state law.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    4 жыл бұрын

    Basic constitutional law, the federal government trumps the state. So if the federal government says you can practice as long as you properly licensed in a state, then you're good. However, some states have struggled with out of state attorneys practicing federal law and not being licensed in that state. The state bars haven't quite made the leap into the 20th century. So, yes, you can do it. The state bar may not like it. And you absolutely cannot practice state law where you are not licensed which could potentially hamper your practice...but then you just get referrals to other in-state attorneys.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    4 жыл бұрын

    To clarify, if you focus on VAWA, you may need to be licensed in whatever state you are located in to properly advise your clients on legalities related to domestic relations. Some things get intermingled. K1 visas - not so much. Asylum, not so much. It just depends. Immigration has a ton of sub-specialties.

  • @Proud9897

    @Proud9897

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, all I got from this video is don't go to a non ABA accredited law school. I think there's a lot of politics involved with getting accepted to an ABA accredited school. They only look at the LSAT score over everything else ( personal experience). So many people who come from socially disadvantage backgrounds are not accepted to ABA schools. I consider it bull when they say they bring ones whole application to consideration when admitting students. Many students had excellent application packages, but a low LSAT score, and they did not get accepted. At least the non ABA accredited Law school give students a chance to study law, interact with those who work in the courts, and gain knowledge of how the law works. For all those people who were denied admissions to a ABA school, because of your score, and were given a chance at a non ABA accredited school TAKE IT. Full fill your dream of law school, and become a voice for your community. The ABA system is designed not to give everyone a chance, according to my experiences.

  • @pamelafrazier3616
    @pamelafrazier36165 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I am in contracting at a federal agency. do you think when I finish unaccredited law school, I could get into the General counsel office in federal government?

  • @pamelafrazier3616

    @pamelafrazier3616

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am a Contract Specialist. I work with Legal in federal government. Just to clarify that I am not a contractor.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    5 жыл бұрын

    It depends. They may have regulations that prohibit hiring attorneys from unaccredited law schools, or they may not. Or the person in charge of hiring may have made an executive decision that even though they can hire people from unaccredited law schools, they won't. It's a big risk to go unaccredited. It's only safe if you plan to be self-employed and stay forever in the state the school is located in.

  • @lawandarutledge342
    @lawandarutledge3424 жыл бұрын

    I don’t have a bachelors degree, or any college credits. I would like to get my MSL based on work experience. Do you know of any American colleges that would accept me? I am not concerned about the accreditation as I am not looking to practice law.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am not aware of any advanced degree program that will accept you without a bachelor's degree.

  • @offgridtechfarm2148
    @offgridtechfarm21484 жыл бұрын

    All that matters is you get the state bar number

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can't get a job with the bar number, but that alone won't guarantee a job. If you are ready to start your own business, I think unaccredited can be a good option. But you do need to know what your plan is and a lot of people go to law school assuming they'll be able to get regular jobs with salaries and benefits. The big firms and most mid-size firms won't consider someone from an unaccredited school. It can happen, but it's not something to bank on.

  • @olich23
    @olich233 жыл бұрын

    She is saying what she has to say to sell law school.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually, I am not a fan of the legal profession as it stands and I want to help people learn what they are getting into. It is far easier to get into it than out of it.

  • @JosephBrown-cw9ml
    @JosephBrown-cw9ml4 жыл бұрын

    Some reasonable points, but a lot of fearmongering.

  • @lawschoollawyer3885

    @lawschoollawyer3885

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not meant to be fearmongering, just info that no law school or bar will ever give future students.