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@ouzomezes.

5 жыл бұрын

Ben is not number three

@constant_change72

3 жыл бұрын

@@ouzomezes. uo ù Bjorn NM

' The child who is not embraced by the village, will burn it down to feel it's warmth'

@twocoolgamer16

5 жыл бұрын

Trudy Barnes wow that’s awesome where is that from?

@wiccanmagic97

5 жыл бұрын

@@twocoolgamer16 It's an African proveb that's sister to the more famous one, "It takes a village to raise a child."

@Vaporeon_91

5 жыл бұрын

@twocoolgamer: Wicca is right. It's also about Kill monger from BP. If you look up the quote, you'll see a picture of him.

@LexusFox

5 жыл бұрын

It makes sense.

@moniquej2997

5 жыл бұрын

@@Vaporeon_91 pretty sure an african proverb is way older and way more relevant than some random character in marvel comics

luther can complain about being put away on a moon for 4 years with consent but vanya can’t have a meltdown because she’s been neglected her whole life and has had her powers suppressed without consent? i just- i hate luther

@tamarkalandia8130

5 жыл бұрын

Same. He is the worst just like his father

@chasebarber10

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@chasebarber10

5 жыл бұрын

Lbh if he didnt run on stage, Vanya wouldn't have powered up smh

@Fae_van

5 жыл бұрын

@@chasebarber10 if he didn't lock her and if he had let Allison talked to her, then she wouldn't have even kill pogo and mom..

@Fae_van

5 жыл бұрын

@@kkaur595 but she had that note pad.

I actually like the backstory with Leonard much more than the comic one. In the comic it's kind of a Generic Bad Guys plotline, but in the show we get a pretty good glimpse on how abusive relationships actually work. He's preying on Vanya's insecurities, isolating her from the family, gaslighting her, convincing her that he's the only one she should listen to, and constantly telling her that all of his questionable behaviour is for her own good. This storline is less fantastic, but more terrifying.... because it can happen and does happen in real life.

@cecelia8975

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. It certainly made Vanya a more sympathetic character. I also like that in this version, the siblings go back in time to set things right with her. Gives all of them some redemption.

@jazznjelly6882

5 жыл бұрын

So true

@gamerdweebentertainment1616

5 жыл бұрын

I'm getting tired of watching TV shows, "predictable" or characters being "blind". Then again who am I to talk, I've no reason to dislike my parents, but I'm still doing that for some reason, avoiding talking with them.

@TheManOnTheStreetOMG

5 жыл бұрын

I get that the relationship is interesting to people, but Leonard's motives are the definition of generic bad guy

@theravenwhoreads8335

5 жыл бұрын

I definitely think there’s a strong message about the effects of childhood trauma and abuse on human development

I really hope that we will meet the other kids that were born that day

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

We haven't met any others in the comics yet, but hopefully we will.

@capala1234

5 жыл бұрын

Didn’t they make it clear in the comics that Dr. Monocle couldn’t adopt the other children because they all died?

@johnwood2158

5 жыл бұрын

@@capala1234 I was sure of that, too. Even in the TV series that was said.

@EightTinyRats

5 жыл бұрын

John Wood I thought he wasn’t able to buy the other children along with the death of the other ones

@engen1445

5 жыл бұрын

Well, Vanya killed one

everyone forgot that klaus started the apocalypse by throwing away reginald hargreeves books edit: don’t get me wrong i love klaus, he’s my favortite haha

@Tawanpawatt

5 жыл бұрын

Hahhaha thank for remind us. That totally klaus fault. But whatever i hate no1..

@macrophage2495

5 жыл бұрын

Or was it Reginalds fault cause he committed suicide to get them all back together? If he hadn’t Klaus wouldn’t have taken that box

@Tawanpawatt

5 жыл бұрын

@@macrophage2495 reginald should not exist.. he the source of the bad thing to happen

@AA-mj4sn

5 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair it was technically all dear old dad Reginald's fault from the start.

@MrWongWey

5 жыл бұрын

shazarul haizer If Reginald treated her like an actual daughter she would’ve never had that _meltdown_

I like the show better than the comic, because the comic is just too vague at times and the show gives a lot more context to situations, such as with Vanya. The show handles Vanya's transformation into the White Violin with a lot more detail and gives believable circumstances to show why she would snap.

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

I do totally get your point. I personally really like the show, and really loved the comics 9ive had to read them about 10x each now for these videos coming). The main problem with the show versus the comics is that there just isn't enough of the comics. The writers are given a bit more leniency and because of that they are able to flesh out events. For instance Apocalypse Suite and season 1 are clearly the same thing, but there are elements of Dallas in there as well, and a ton more character development in season 1. One thing I am going for in these videos is to be as thorough as possible, due to the fact that there really isn't any resources for Umbrella Academy online. Hopefully my intense deep dive into the comics will prove to be one of the defacto knowledge bases that lets people flesh out these wiki's for other people to learn without needing to read the books.

@adrianprepelita8683

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree and one more, the music in the show it's great! To write a comic with a person ho can destroy the world with music, without music, it's not the right thing.

@oRedW0TAx

5 жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues Other than your adlibs of personal feelings you've literally just read word for word from the wiki in both your ben video and this one.

@mr.vargas5648

5 жыл бұрын

The comic is to short. Also I dont get why the conductor were replaced by some boring guy that wanted revenge.

@adrianprepelita8683

5 жыл бұрын

andy pete mb because the "guy" reasons for revenge were clere and the Conductor was just evil and wanted to destroy the world without any reasons. I think, they just copied the bad guy from Civil War.

Vanya seems more sympathetic in the show compared to the comics going on this video which I'm glad of

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah in the comics she basically has all of her character development in 3 issues then get shot

@v1ped

5 жыл бұрын

you mean more stupid

@Tiger-pb6gd

5 жыл бұрын

Welp in Netflix in last episode when 5 character fought against her....it gonna be different in how it turnout in comic,dont wanna spoil it..so you gotta watch it.

@diamantemrobinson

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah imo she's much more likable in the show and it plays out better. I don't think she would just up and become evil.

@ellielovegood6307

5 жыл бұрын

@@v1ped I would say more naive and characters have to have flaws unless they would be Mary Sues

Went into the comment section expecting hate on Vanya and ended up being pleasantly surprised by everyone saying how great her character is. *I'm so proud of this community*

@olivertarazon3936

5 жыл бұрын

I was actually surprised to see in other comment sections that people hated her character

@eddiecactus1085

5 жыл бұрын

Oliver Tarazon I know right?!? Her character is well written, her motives make sense and she rocks a black suit!

@thebinlgbtisbabadook7832

5 жыл бұрын

The hate statements are under the comments feeling sorry for Vanya. You'll find a lot of bashers there who have the audacity to say that Vanya should just "get over" her childhood and that she's a bitch, while they themselves have never experienced anything close to what she went through. Oh well. Humans.

@duonghongthuy6303

5 жыл бұрын

Valentine Valentino i know right

Vanya in the show really pulled on some heart strings. Possibly the most relatable character in my opinion.

@christopheryoung5192

5 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. If I had the childhood she had I would have let loose too.

@AmitZinmanVideo

5 жыл бұрын

It's because they have the best actress playing her.

@konodioda3854

5 жыл бұрын

Yep lol

@morpho5837

5 жыл бұрын

I thought her acting was awful

@Nobody-tj9jo

5 жыл бұрын

She’s too naive and annoying in my opinion. And I wish they picked someone other than Ellen page to play her.

Vanya is a character that makes my heart hurt. Of course her actions at the end, like killing Pogo were wrong but I think what most people need to understand is that she never caused the apocalypse. It was her siblings who were the cause except for Allison. The think about Vanya is that she is majorly depressed. You can see it from the beginning of the show. And that depression is (I believe) due to those pills that Reginald gave her. Just imagine having your powers being suppressed for so long and not even remembering them! God knows what it did to her psyche! And then shit happens. Leaonard targets her and of course she falls for him. Just imagine being so lonely and having this one person who you think genuinly cares for you and want you to succeed. He just wants to make you happy. And tell me really.. why would she have listened to Alisson? A woman who is practically a stranger to her. She has not seen her in 12 years and even before that she was ignored by her and the rest of the siblings. Vanya doesn't exactly have happy thoughts related with her siblings (except Five. I feel that those two were on good terms). So, yes for Vanya it was a hurtful experience to have her 'sister' dismiss her boyfriend. Of course as we see in the first timeline, which was changed afterwards, Vanya realises that Alisson was right. And Vanya loves her sister. That much is clear. She loves Alisson and Alisson love her. Their sisterhood blooms beautifully during the show and I absolutely adore it. When Vanya slits Alisson's throat with her bow, her immediate horror at what she had done proved to me that she wasn't a bad person. Vanya is just a person who is rediscovering their powers and who never got a chance or the correct guidance to control them before. She is getting all of those powers back under the pressure of an abusive relationship (which she doesn't know yet) and that de stabilizes her mind. During a time when Vanya desperately needed a guide and a mentor, she instead got an emotionally manipulative and abusive boyfriend. Just watching her story progress makes me so sad. And then she goes home, so scared but still ready to own up to her mistake knowing that she might lose her family for good for her actions. And what does she find? Her 'big' brother pretending to comfort her and then proceeding to lock her away. She sees Alisson try to free her but then the little girl in her awakens. She was alone and scared and all of those memories were coming back. And Vanya snaps. But see that snap wasn't so sudden. And even afterwards when she was playing her violin on the stage, she was fine. The world would have been just fine if the siblings hadn't interfered. If they had just let Alisson deal with it in her amazing way, things would have been okay. Because we see Alisson smile at her sister and Vanya returns that smile. For me this was a beautiful scene between two sisters who finally are becoming sisters. Alisson (bless her beautiful heart) forgives Vanya and Vanya does the same. That split moment was all that was needed. That was all Vanya ever needed. It is what all any of us need really. Someone who loves us and accepts us and shows us the correct way. Vanya didn't need an abusive father belittling her and drugging her and destroying her self-worth. She needed someone who truly loved her and cared for her, just like Alisson came to do later on. So, don't think that Vanya is feeding of off the victim mentality. She is genuinely a victim of terrible circumstances (still not excusing some of her actions) and I believe she is a good person. Just majorly depressed and in need of help and lots and lots of love from her big sister.

@Hqdlee

5 жыл бұрын

i really needed this. vanya was such a confusing character to me and this just brings it all together for me

@admiralsnackbar8719

5 жыл бұрын

I completely agree, I think she will become good again and her siblings will understand, I don't want her to go like a anti hero, I went redemption for her charcter, but that's just what I want to happen

@lawfulhusbands

5 жыл бұрын

Had awwww I am glad I could help! 🤗🤗

@lawfulhusbands

5 жыл бұрын

Admiral Snackbar same here. Vanya is in no way a villain for me. And I think redemption arcs are needed for almost all the siblings. Except Alisson. That girl is golden and her love for Vanya shone till the end. These sisters need more screen time together. They both forgave each other at the end and I need to see more of their lovely sisterhood. 😍😍😍

@sarahk2255

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with this except Allison isn't her "big sister," they're all the same age!

why was diego named the kraken when it is ben who has a tentacle monster inside him? just because diego can hold his breath underwater (which wasn't even shown in the show). I feel like this was a misplace

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I thought the EXACT same thing. But I think the nicknames come from Sir Reginald. In the comics Reginald says that he has a hard time even looking at Ben knowing what he can do. He disgusts him, thus the nickname "The horror."

@Kilioh15

5 жыл бұрын

I do think that The Horror is more fitting for Ben than The Kraken, but I have to agree, Kraken doesn't really fit Diego. I'm glad they didn't use that name in the show (if I remember correctly).

@desmondparker3288

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah i thought the same thing... kraken fits ben perfectly

@anabanana62787

5 жыл бұрын

I thought the same... Isn't (or wasn't) Ben the Kraken CLEARLY?!

@cassidyfrazee6428

5 жыл бұрын

In the comic Diego can hold his breath for an indefinite period of time, something not touched on in the series, which would make him highly valuable underwater. If I remember right, Sir Reginald made a comment that Diego was "perfect for taking down people", which is also something a kraken was known for doing. Beyond that, there's little else to indicate the origin of the name.

To clarify, I think she is on an anti-anxiety med, like valium, not an anti-depressant. She is shown taking it at various points thru the day, and it wears off pretty quickly for something she has been taking for years, implying it is a fast-release medicine. Valium and things like that tend to make you feel pretty dopy and mentally slower than normal, and I have been on them before and personally found them to be very hindering; they suppress almost all emotions and as a musician myself.... yeah... Not a good thing.

@mickeye6428

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, anti depressants would be insane. She would lose her shit as soon as she missed one dose.

@traptinseid8577

4 жыл бұрын

@@mickeye6428 That's not how anti-depressants work. They work when you have a certain amount of the substance in your blood. So if you don't take one pill, it's ok. If you stop taking them for weeks, then you lose your shit.

@andrewjohnson6716

3 жыл бұрын

She is not on any real-world drug. She is on drugs concocted by Reginald Hargreeves to both suppress her emotions (which trigger her powers) and her powers. This is why Ellen Page is acting like she has severe flattening-of-effect and the beginning of the show.

@elliezzz7812

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think this completely true yes benzos are to treat anxiety but antidepressants especially snris at a high dosage are used to treat anxiety as well and can cause emotional blunting meaning you have neither highs or lows , benzos can also be used to treat ptsd or mania which can cause aggression or outbursts in radical emotions which I find more likely for her to be treated for as she from later seasons of the show find out she took out all the living nannies when they tried to make her eat her oatmeal until mom replaced her , but what I find more likely is that she didn’t have any disorder at all that she was a normal kid with normal anger issues jus with lots of power at hands so Reginald concocted a mix of drugs into pills in order to suppress her powers as we see in the show the more time she leaves it since being out of her system ( like snris and ssris rather than a benzo which has a few hours before it’s left ur system rather than snris that stay in ur system upto a week) the stronger her powers get but she is shown earlier in the show to be distressed yet nothing happens power wise suggesting that the medication isn’t for her mood but for powers and the reason she thinks they calm her down is cus it’s acting as a placebo as she THINKs they help her mood/anxiety

Her story is a messed up version of Jean Grey's. Imo

@sinonslife4812

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@Thenic_verse

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much. Mastermind's manipulation is similar to Leonard. He manipulates her when she's away from her family just a mastermind does to Jean when The X-Men are missing. Only difference is this more closely follows the movies Phoenix plot and not the comics. Where The Phoenix force is not a multiple personality but a living force that has always been and always will be.

@AA-mj4sn

5 жыл бұрын

I disagree because the "Jean Grey's version" is a very common and repetitive kind of story where in a group of people with supernatural abilities (mostly), there is one generally more powerfull and more emotionally unstable than the others who ends up growing mad, destroying everything on his way, even attacking people he loves. The big difference is that Jean's madness is due to her possession by the Phoenix when for Vanya or Carrie or Andrew (from Chronicle) , it's the result of years of facing abuse. And generally at the end, this person tragically die. Well not in the Umbrella Academy. 😊 By the way, Vanya development is pretty well done and you understand why she's desperately craving for attention and approbation, being an easy prey for a cunning and manipulative psycho.

@Thenic_verse

5 жыл бұрын

@@AA-mj4sn Oh yeah completely. I was just saying it does follow Jean's decent into madness accurately. Better than the movies could do lol. Which is funny because Ellen Page is in those said movies lol.

@JohnDoe-vw4kx

5 жыл бұрын

@@AA-mj4sn I still think that attention needs to be placed on the fact that in the show, we see her clearly using her powers to harm and outright murder her nannies over a simple thing like not liking her food. Vanya doesn't seem to even blink over the fact. This is continuing with the assumption that she never had the same conditioning as the others, Ben in particular. So, lets not all forget the girl had problems well before daddy dearest started treating her like the family doormat.

I always felt that their father let Vanya play the violin in order for it to be a catalyst for her powers (kinda like how Thor's Mjölnir is the conduit for his powers but not necessarily the source of it) in the future since her powers have to do with sound and/or music. Maybe one day he was going to tell her about her powers and by then after mastering the violin it might've been easier for her to control them (at least maybe in the tv show). Things probably didn't go as planned so she never found out. Just my personal take on it!

@thebinlgbtisbabadook7832

5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to agree with this :) Reginald is the kind of guy that somehow "knows" the future, so this is not far from possible.

@WolframiteWraith

4 жыл бұрын

I figured he just did it because his dead lover wanted him to pass on the violin and Vanya had an interest in it.

“Hey, we have this incredibly powerful person who has the potential to destroy the entire planet. Let’s treat her like shit and an outcast for her whole life instead of teaching her to use her overwhelming power responsibly.” Fantastic idea, Mr Hargreaves. Fantastic idea.

@jvinsantos6861

3 жыл бұрын

I think HG knew her power is too dangerous.. especially she's emotionally unstable to control it.. but it really backfired so badly.. HG doesn't provide a fatherly love to them especially he don't know how to as he was an alien at the first place.. I really wanted to know what is his real agenda tho..

@ia2470

3 жыл бұрын

maybe he wanted the apocalypse to be initiated so they would go back in time for s2

@AA-vu9mj

3 жыл бұрын

@@jvinsantos6861 He made her emotionally unstable

Vanya is by far my favorite character... Oh, and Klaus

I have a theory that the baby born in the pool at the beginning of the tv show is Vanya.

@AKdsad100

5 жыл бұрын

Of course it is Vanya. It is a Russian name...

@zach1972

5 жыл бұрын

@@AKdsad100 Only problem with that is that Reginald never named them, Grace did, once they were like 10, Grace wouldnt have known who the Russian child was

@chillerkiller112

5 жыл бұрын

@@zach1972 of course she would why wouldn't she

@alicemae9652

5 жыл бұрын

I've always assumed it was Diego, since in the comics he can basically live underwater

@zach1972

5 жыл бұрын

@@chillerkiller112 Give me a good reason why Reginald would have even remembered which one was born in Russia specifically and why he would even care to tell Grace, it's 100% not in his character and actually has 0 impact on the character as I bet they don't even know where they're from

Out of these seven emotionally wrecked children (that I want to take care and make sure they’re always happy if I could btw), my heart goes to Vanya the most. I REALLY like her character. She’s very complex and I think she did not deserve to be locked up by Luther at that time when she was so scared and confused about the power building up inside her. My heart was breaking watching her go through that pain and confusion and having to watch her siblings walk away scared while expecting them to be the ones who should understand what she’s going through. SHE NEEDED HELP and it was only Klaus who really understood this to be honest There was a reason why she had to be alone growing up but it doesn’t mean that makes it less painful for her having to go through all that. And I just really want her to be happy, you know? She deserves it! Sorry I got carried away

@Jakeylicious7891

5 жыл бұрын

Uhm...the whole point of the series and the comics is that as lewd and obvious as it may be percieved, the audience is made to think that the 7 children were emotionally scared. But they're not. Turn monocles into a strict dad, mom into a doting loving mother, and strip away the kids of their powers and you have regular people in a suburban household. And vanya's a bitch btw. A likeable bitch.

@acinorevagetro5532

5 жыл бұрын

I was yelling at my TV. Like no wonder why he tried to make you think you were normal! After killing how many nanny's because they tried to make her eat oatmeal?! A bit of an overkill Haha

@Jakeylicious7891

5 жыл бұрын

@@acinorevagetro5532 exactly. Siding with Vanya is actually a dangerous indicator of how one can be easilly manipulated by a person who acts fragile and plays the victim card, when in fact, she's the only one who has victimised herself. At a young age, she has shown no remorse over murdering her nannies, has no skill to control her very dangerous ability which the Dr. might have percieved as dangerous to herself and everyone around the household. You have 6 other children who might be murdered if Vanya goes on a tantrum, so it's kinda understandable why she put in a chamber. And even when Vanya grew up, she didn't really emotionally develop. She used her entire family's loss for her own comfort (when she wrote her memoir) so that the world may side with her, nothwidthstanding the fact that she's also hurting her family in the process. That's why Vanya's a bitch. A likeable bitch. Everyone's felt to be a victim at some point in our lives that we can somehow understand her situation. It's just that, dear Vanya's managed to take it to the extreme with her lack of empathy and emotional maturity that people find ways to get out of their situations somehow. Problem is, she refuses to escape it since she's grown comfortably in it.

@acinorevagetro5532

5 жыл бұрын

Almost reminds me of a Dr Jeckle Mr Hyde persona. Only its the drugs that kept Mr Hyde away not the other way around....and with powers....

@hermionegranger7175

5 жыл бұрын

Jakeylicious7891 I don’t think she was playing the victim card?? I actually think she remained loving of her siblings and I don’t remember her meeting them again and went accusing them they’re the reason why she has a shitty life. She never tried to hurt them UNTIL that part in the last episode and I don’t think she did it only because she just wants to hurt people. All the years of neglect and betrayal, I can’t imagine anyone being okay with that and sooner or later, anyone in that situation would snap. And this resulted to her burst of intense emotion that also triggered her power that she can no longer control because she wasn’t really guided of it in the first place. I’m not saying I agree to everything she did or all her decisions but one thing that I like about this show and the characters is that there are no good and bad people they are only people who make good and bad choices and that makes them so painfully human and that’s alright!

So some differences that you missed. In the show vanya power is not tied to the violin like in the comic, however she harmonizes with sounds and converts that over to her power. Kind of a weird thing to try and explain, but it is why when in a chamber where no sound can get through, she harmonizes with her heartbeat to blow it sky high. In the show the person who helps her with her power is a crazed fanboy who wanted to be like the 7 but just wasn't special, he found the book and went for vanya to trick her into learning her powers.

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

This video is not about the characters from the TV show, I use them in minor examples for explanation purposes (and in the thumbnail because sometimes people forget the actual names of characters from TV shows), but this video is about explaining the comic-accurate representation of the character. The next video will explain Ben, check that one out and future episodes to see what I am talking about.

@yeolunius4559

5 жыл бұрын

I think her power is converting and amplifying sound to kinetic energy

@alysondavy2485

5 жыл бұрын

The crazy fanboy is Leonard, the same guy on 3:52

@enceladuscat7637

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeolunius4559 her power is actually converting sound in to energy (in the show at least)

Actually Ben is number six not number three.

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct, my video on Ben (which will be out tonight) will address this mistake. Unfortunately it was an editing slip.

@claytongriffith8323

5 жыл бұрын

@eric gonzalo Ben is #6 and he doesn't turn into different alien, he has from another dimension inside of him. Nice try though

@Ziaotic

5 жыл бұрын

@eric gonzalo god you should just stopped at after typing the first "10"

@derrickdenby5139

5 жыл бұрын

Clayton Griffith it seems you are uncultured

@achanwahn

5 жыл бұрын

@@claytongriffith8323 You're not educating. You're just missing the (albeit terrible) joke. Just let people have fun, dad

7:15 They're starting the long process of trying to forgive her? Okay, but how about they take responsibility for their own actions and start trying to earn her forgiveness?

@God-sv5ep

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah lets try getting forgiven by a girl that almost killed us all and the entire earth

@sarafontanini7051

5 жыл бұрын

the umbrella academy are kinda dicks and to be fair the White Violin did a lot more bad things than they did

@TheRealRightPrice

5 жыл бұрын

@@sarafontanini7051 True but her doing bad things at the end doesn't absolve them of responsibility for their shitty treatment of her over the couple of decades before that. Her family treated her like garbage until she snapped and now act like she's the only one who's done anything wrong.

@sarafontanini7051

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealRightPrice again, the numbers are kinda dicks, but at least some of them (allison) are making to steps to make up for it

@mickeye6428

5 жыл бұрын

Because they didn't do anything bad to her. She fucked them over. Why do people keep acting like this ridiculous theory that she was mistreated by her siblings is not only true, but something you can just take for granted? Seriously, what on earth did they do that you think justifies her writing a shitty book where she shit talks all of them?

So they emotionally destroy her and when she gets upset and loses control they wanna kill her because she’s out of control? That’s how the world works. People will try to hurt you because you’re better than them and if you fight back, because they didn’t leave you any other option, the fault is only yours.

@peskee9022

5 жыл бұрын

Happy Emoji Ahh yes because it’s ok to kill people as long as you had a traumatic past

@happyemoji6553

5 жыл бұрын

Pyth0n - If the people who caused you the trauma aren’t going to stop while you’re able to defend yourself? The issue with this character (Vanya) was clear. They wanted to lock her up in the metal box and were never willing to let her go because they thought she was a danger when all she wanted to do was to apologize for losing control over her powers. But instead, they didn’t allow her that and dismissed her by locking her up. She understood from their history that she was being naive and they weren’t what she thought they were (family). She unlocked her rage and lost control. Remember, humans can take on for awhile until they reach the breaking point. If you don’t have anyone or anything to turn to since your childhood and everyone tries to put you down and no one ever allows you to belong, your development isn’t going to be normal and you’ll definitely not follow what’s right or wrong because you were never part of that discussion in your life. You can hold people accountable when they’re included and part of the conversation or whatever they supposed to be held accountable for. Otherwise, you can’t demand anything or uphold standards for everyone when the rules, rights, responsibilities aren’t even there or fair for everyone.

@user-bs9tg7pb9b

4 жыл бұрын

100% agree

Huh, I think I prefer the shows adaptation. It flows a lot better.

Watched the first episode, knew she was the most powerful

@asaadbobby1

5 жыл бұрын

@Lord Revan Yep, but I had a feeling. Premonition.

@engen1445

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@engen1445

5 жыл бұрын

The weakest one is always the powerful one

@SaritaLovesLiving

5 жыл бұрын

@rocket grunt True

@HazzyFcrazy

5 жыл бұрын

I thought her power was that she couldn't be good at anything

Tbh if I was Vanya I would've done the same thing. Her family is mean. If I was her I would get help somewhere else not in the room of people who think they're superheroes with bad attitudes.

@injectvns

5 жыл бұрын

Cherrykye Waters but what did the world do xd

@christopheryoung5192

5 жыл бұрын

@@injectvns I dont think Vanya intended to destroy the world. She would have died along with it. I think she just lost control of herself.

@TheCherrykye

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Young yeah like Jean Grey, the power controlled her instead of her controlling it.

@TheDIrtyHobo

5 жыл бұрын

@@christopheryoung5192 She went to voluntarily sign up for an orchestra run by villains, fully intending to bring about the apocalypse, all of this was known to her before she went to sign up. If she didn't intend to destroy the world, she was some pretty extreme level of naive.

@konodioda3854

5 жыл бұрын

Its her families fault lol

The Umbrella Academy is an incredible show! Thank you very much for the heart!

Small correction: Vanya was on mood stabilizers in the Netflix series, not antidepressants. Not the same thing.

@orangedaisies9973

5 жыл бұрын

It was actually anxiety meds

Space Boy started the Apocalypse when he locked Vanya inside the vault and allowed her to reach inside her memories of pain and come full potential, she only killed Pogo and destroyed the academy because she was lied to, hidden and humiliated. If space boy was not a dick head Vanya and Alisson would has made up and stopped ChaCha and Hazel. Plus in the Icarus Theater The white violin and the rumor connected through out a smile while she was playing at the orchestra but space boy and the krake jump in and again unlock her full potential. So technically her siblings pushed her to havoc!

@dottyContrarian

4 жыл бұрын

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Vanya is one of the most underrated characters in The Umbrella Academy.

@mickeye6428

5 жыл бұрын

Really? I see millennials all over the place talking about how great she is.

@rachaeln5607

4 жыл бұрын

I think fans have mixed feelings on her...on most lists I’ve seen she’s either second or second to last (second to only Klaus or beating only Luther). She’s one of those characters that people either love or hate...

White Violin? Don’t get me wrong it’s a cool name. But think instead of that we call her Symphony!

@aliengranpa

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the fiddler (get it?) 😂

@Ghilannugs

5 жыл бұрын

Vanya has had a hard life, glad her siblings showed some Symphony for the poor girl

@hshsidieahsbd7242

5 жыл бұрын

Nah

@socio637

5 жыл бұрын

@@aliengranpa both r actually good names. id be happy with symphony or the fiddler

@DeadInside-ct6dl

5 жыл бұрын

Cause it's a bittersweet Symphony

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I keep telling people that they better put RESPECT on Vanya’s name.

Very good Watch!! Can't wait for Season 2... Deadly Class is Dope too!!!

@mr.peabody4126

5 жыл бұрын

Wolf Warner facts

@ninyan_4965

5 жыл бұрын

Wolf Warner Fact

@user-wt8wc1fi1b

5 жыл бұрын

Wolf Warner 👌

@stiltmansstilt1014

5 жыл бұрын

Couldn't get far in deadly class. Soooo cringy

@WolfWarner718

5 жыл бұрын

@@stiltmansstilt1014 goes hand in hand with the comic. russo brothers have done a great job replicating the comic. So far I'm still in.

Honestly 5 was the best actor and had the best story.

@sioray7732

5 жыл бұрын

He was painfully annoying and pretty try hard

To be honest, the TV version of vanya’s powers is stronger, since in the comics she has to use the violin to use it while in the Tv show she can use any sound she can hear even her own heart beat.

well... after hearing how the comic goes, Im pretty satisfied with how the Netflix show went. I enjoyed the climatic ending.

🤔 The source material is very interesting but I really like what they’re doing with the show!

Honestly after watching the whole series hazel, Klaus, 5 and Ben were my favorite characters

Why is it that in the comic Diego and Vanya are super close but we don’t see any of that in the show? In the show it’s made out like Vanya and Five were the closest

Vanya means "power of the gods"

@rere439

3 жыл бұрын

The more correct is "God's Gracious Gift"

Based on your summary of the comic rendition I can say I definitely like the idea of the tv series Vanya more. The portrayal strikes me as much more nuanced. For example she doesn’t intentionally cause harm to any of her family members until after they throw her into the prison of her childhood nightmares when she returns to them to ask for forgiveness and seek help. While they were not being truly malicious this event, when combined with everything else she had been through her whole life and the previous days, seems to cause her to experience a straight up psychotic break as opposed to deliberately choosing to turn her wrath upon the world. I didn’t even get the impression she went into the concert with the intent of causing the apocalypse.

The finale in the show was insane. The way she transformed into that pure white light was just... beautiful.

I love this show, very well done.

During the concert before the apocalypse, Alison smiles at Vanya, and Vanya smiles back, this shows that Vanya is very open to reconcile w her family. But her family continues their negative ways of treating her. And betrays her, they pushed Vanya to her absolute limit, and caused the apocalypse. I mean how the hell did they not think that all their isolating and belittling her didnt affect her mental health?

Interesting that she’s closest to Diego in the comics, when in the show he appears to dislike her the most...

I knew it, since the 1st episode I've always had a feeling that Vanya has a super power so great that her father had to try to suppress it.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Is that Dickon from Game of Thrones?

@venomsnake225

5 жыл бұрын

Damn. Now I can't unsee it...

@Blackcop33

5 жыл бұрын

NOOOOOO WHY DID YOU DO THISSS

@prettyteeth

5 жыл бұрын

You mean Billy Bones from Black sails.

@paattiee

5 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhhh No wonder he looked familiar. Dickon hah

@alita8900

5 жыл бұрын

omg tf you're right! This whole time I was wondering why his face looked so familiar to me, but I kept focusing on how weird he looks in the trench coat lol and whether or not he was in a bodysuit or not.

I told you a G note was destructive!

The show starts of hella slow.. But it was actually good!

@rustyjiggler

5 жыл бұрын

When does it get good, because the first 4 episodes were boring as hell?

@softdandiis

5 жыл бұрын

Seth Gecko When Vanya’s skank of boyfriend helps her user her abilities.

@paho5260

5 жыл бұрын

Seth Gecko it took like a whole week for me to get through the first five to six episodes. And then i binged watched the rest in a day. So yeah around ep 6 it gets pretty captivating.

@expressodepresso3092

5 жыл бұрын

pa ho I watched it all in one day. 💀

"She immediately kills the conductor"

I feel so sorry for Vanya (at least in the show I haven’t read the books) they had so many opportunities to prevent this they just had to show her ANY kind of love and affection ANY kind of empathy and no apocalypse I know they’re caught up in their own stuff which makes it even more sad

Tbh, i kinda feel that vanya siblings deserved what they got. And even then I'm still kinda angry at them. Do I have issues?

@victorias4078

4 жыл бұрын

Nah

It’s so crazy in the comics she was closer to diego in the show he’s so mean to her when hargreeves tells him he’s worthless and he has daddy issues he’s literally going through the same thing except hargreeves knows vanya is powerful and actually feels Diego is powerless

What happened to other children that were conceived that day 🤔🤔

@graynor67

5 жыл бұрын

They died I believe

@kyju7093

5 жыл бұрын

@@graynor67 not in the show

@unbothered7205

5 жыл бұрын

Gus Raynor it was said that most kids were left to die, and some where given up for adoption.

@sarafontanini7051

5 жыл бұрын

basically: no fucking clue, though some might appear as potenital villains maybe

@killgee8806

5 жыл бұрын

@@graynor67 some died, some are just alive somewhere else in the world.

Are we going to know more about the other people born tht day that aren’t in the umbrella Academy

She’s my favorite I liked how her face lost color when she was angry 😤🥰

Favourite of the bunch: 5. Easily.

@EnderShard

5 жыл бұрын

4

On the show they aren't depression pills, they're anxiety pills; she takes them every time she feels overly anxious (or so her dad tells her)

Love this series

so Harold Jenkins is The Conductor ?

@marissad.4356

5 жыл бұрын

Relatif Rekod Basically. One of Netflix’s changes to the story.

@sarafontanini7051

5 жыл бұрын

certianly the closest thing to him in the story

I guess that's what I found odd about the show. In the final episode, I was wondering why the siblings were trying to stop her from playing. I did not understand that until I watched this video. I knew she was dangerous at that point and has no qualms about hurting people -- but I personally thought that she was just doing what she knew her whole life so I was very annoyed when her siblings kept interfering with her moment -- especially before that when she was locked up without consideration.

@damerykeprice5365

5 жыл бұрын

Actually all the siblings wanted to let her out of the prison EXCEPT for Luther who wanted to keep her locked up until he could figure out what to do with her.

Awesome breakdown 👌 of the Academy. I think I'm going to pick up a set

I could litterally see the end of the show by seeing the first episode... I mean, a show about superheroes, except that one kid that has no powers... come on, I already knew she was supposed to be the strongest one and do some bad stuff!

@miaya.micronis

5 жыл бұрын

That actually does! I didn’t even think of that tbh, I just looked at the other thumbnails and saw her eyes glowing.

@orca4975

5 жыл бұрын

Sebastian B It foreshadowed her powers from as early as episode 1 so it doesn’t even matter that you predicted what would happened. Anyone could’ve guessed if they paid close enough attention to the first episode

@nappy9987

5 жыл бұрын

The showed isnt based around the powers. If you watch the show for one reason then you will only see one thing

@sexyr4nger

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I said the same thing to my bf after the first episode. There's no way everyone else born on that day was given powers and not her. Which makes the twist that she's the most powerful even more obvious

@alexcrane6127

5 жыл бұрын

@@sexyr4nger no one hidden that.

Great character study.

Vanya's my favorite idc lol

Ive only watched the show, but from the character impressions I've gotten from that you're sorely mistaken on Reginald's outlook towards the kids. He has an extremely pragmatic and realistic attitude, generally to the point that he can almost be mistaken for a pessimist, but his actions are pretty well grounded in the best and most helpful solution, his design for Mom being one of the most outstanding. You're right, he doesn't have a very loving personality, which is where Mom came in. Big hint to this was when Diego was asked, I think by Luther, if he ever thought her personality came from Dad, because of how cold and calculated he always was; Mom filled that loving void, and gave the children that motherly nurture aspect. Vanya was his, "baby girl," without the coddling aspect. You could see his self loathing when he had to put Vanya in the soundproof room. And, I don't think he'd have ever let any of the other kids use Stella's violin, let alone how much he smiled when Vanya played it. Mother's android nature was purely required due to Vanya's rebellious and uncontrollable side; the scenes of Vanya harming/killing the previous maids was a huge nod to this factor. When Reginald hits Vanya's wall with the wine glass exercise is when Reginald realized he wouldn't be able to help her with her powers in the long run, leading to altering her life to suit having, "no powers." Luther is probably the most self righteous and biggest baby out of all of them, though with some reason after the gene treatment incident. I'd have to say Luther pushed Reginald into putting him on the moon after he became entirely introverted and pretty much ostracized himself. Reginald was probably hoping that the prolonged sense of purpose mixed with seclusion would help him start coping with his new physique. Like I said, only watched the show but the character in the show certainly isn't as great of an antagonist as you seem to make him.

For someone who was treated differently since the childhood, I embrace the apocalypse.

Your like me finds a cool comic series then just binge read it

Dang! Klaus in the comics is such a badass

The scenes with the nannys cracked me up, number 7 😂😂😂

omg I used to read these comics over and over again when I was a kid it’s slowly coming back to me and remember bits and pieces from those comics, I also used to like cha cha and hazel the most (Ideky 🤣) especially cha cha I wanted to be like her when I grew older (great example for me btw 😂) what an awesome kid I was 😅

Im so sad that season 2 is coming out in 2020 😭😭

@brullotj

5 жыл бұрын

@@nonya8193 LOL. That's why you rewatch season one leading up to the season two release!

@teod1298

5 жыл бұрын

That's not even that far... You're making it sound like we're in 2016 or something

@cb2000a

5 жыл бұрын

It takes about 18 months to write the scripts, shoot it, and edit (add effects, etc).

@franciscomontoya6727

5 жыл бұрын

I read that filming will start late 2019 so maybe half way through 2020 we can get season 2

@ririx7990

5 жыл бұрын

Ikrrr 💔💔 and were only into the third month of 2019 so we basically have to wait a whole year 😭😩

klaus is so cool in the comic!

@subswithnovideoschalleng-il3ik

5 жыл бұрын

Also in the show

Binge watched this show in a day oops but I really like her appearance at the end with the suit and different coloured eyes

It reminds me of a book calld. Rising stars

5:37 Ben/The Horror is NUMBER 6, not number 3.

I like some aspects of the comics, but honestly think the tv series is better in many areas. Not that I agree with everything they have taken liberty with, but over it has been a delightful experience to watch.

I can see the parallels between her and the Phoenix Force.

That was very informative, thank you. That said, you might want to redo this one, which I take to be your first. You can hear a lot of edits in this one and you identified Ben as No. 3 at one point. Still, this was helpful.

After watching this video I wished they would have gotten another actress to play white violin

Hmm. I don't know what this is. Maybe Mister Miracle next? 🤔 Good video nonetheless.

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

Noah watch this show on Netflix!

Crazy ass show -- it was so wild.

I think Vayna looks really good in a white suit also that smile...

A robot zombie that turns the Eiffel Tower into a rampaging giant robot. Yeah, I've seen enough

What about the other 36 children who were born with super powers.. I thought for sure the Time Agency people would have them employed as assassins.

@babadubaekhyun3949

5 жыл бұрын

Shinigami not all the children that were born had superpowers. Leonard was an example of a normal birth but his birth was the same day as the 7 others.

@sarafontanini7051

5 жыл бұрын

well I mean, they employed Number five did they not? but fr now I theorise if we do see these other children they'll likely be other villains the academy has faced in either the past or future

@lisanettepedersen6084

5 жыл бұрын

@@babadubaekhyun3949, Leanord had a normal birth. His mother had carried him for 9 months. He was not made in five minutes like the 43 special children. There are more than 300.000 births every day on global scale.

@mickeye6428

5 жыл бұрын

@@sarafontanini7051 5 was recruited out of a post apocalypse where his removal couldn't really hurt the timeline.

I love Mcr I didn’t know Geraed way created the umbrella academy until in the first episode I looked at the credits and instantly fell more in love with it

5:35 isn't ben #6?

Honestly she reminds me of Jean Grey

@Midnightv

5 жыл бұрын

I mean yes it's kind of obvious that this is Thinly veiled knock on the xmen. I mean space boy is Beast after all. It's not perfect but it's definitely just below the surface

@TheGrapple121

5 жыл бұрын

Midnightv I’d peg Pogo as beast tbh. Intelligent, animalistic, constant companion and close friend of the leader (Reginald and Professor X)

@Midnightv

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheGrapple121 yeah yeah but that's what I meant it's not perfect, it's not supposed to be an exact likeness just something in the mindset thereof

@mickeye6428

5 жыл бұрын

Jean Grey was actually a good person.

Okay...now I really want a Vanya-Diego relationship in the show.

@socio637

5 жыл бұрын

diego was a dick to her tho

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

Technically she as a dick first. She abandoned the family Bc she wasn’t allowed to go on missions, and she just left Diego alone, knowing Reginald hated him the most. Then she almost got them all killed by showing up to an active battle with no powers, while he was attempting to save people.

@Error-tr9ke

5 жыл бұрын

I think he's better with that lady cop, Eudora if I remember correctly

@bbria28

5 жыл бұрын

SAME!!!

@CrossOutBryce

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think it would work well in the show

I'm assuming that the Numbers given are different from the show to the comic, because this isn't the first time I've heard someone give a different number to one of the Hargreves. In the show Ben is #6, yet here he says #3, which in the shoe is Allison.

i watched all of it in one night

what happened to the other gifted children that the moncle didnt adopt?

@Catfullofwok

5 жыл бұрын

They die

@mickeye6428

5 жыл бұрын

They are waiting to see if later seasons need them.

@ally462

5 жыл бұрын

Some might have die, some might still alive

@sammywise2001

5 жыл бұрын

Apparently all those Pro-Lifers didn't like the idea of "different" babies.... then again, all the babies were born already so... they shoulda pulled themselves up by their bootstraps? I find it improbable that 40 something crazy-miracle-babies would be born like that and human beings wouldn't start some kind of crazy religion surrounding them... Especially one that could just say "I heard a rumor... that I am God and you will all bow before me...." There was a lot of wasted potential here I thought.

They definitely chose the wrong actor for the Vanya character who is very similar to the Phoenix from X-Men

@reneepeck8094

5 жыл бұрын

SquareDates Honestly I thought they couldn’t pick a better choice. Ellen’s short (which makes her smaller than everyone in her family besides 5 which even further shows how she wasn’t the same as the other siblings), a really depressed voice from her bad past, and when she does show emotion it’s quite effective.

@killgee8806

5 жыл бұрын

Ellen Page was perfect in my opinion. The way she can switch from suppressing every emotion and being monotone at all times, to being filled with rage, was amazing in my opinion.

Luther: (trigger Vanya rages, pointing Vanya energy beam to the moon) Luther: Look, you caused doombsday Vanyah.

The way I see it, Vanya growing up “without powers” makes her the most unique in a family of super-powered individuals.

Can you rank thor mcu armours please

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

Those videos take a very long time, but we are working on them now!

@viswanath6463

5 жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues thank you

anyone else wonder if the apocalype happened an different way this time around?

@donttrytokillme1231

5 жыл бұрын

Didn't the show state that Vanya would always be the cause of the apocalypse?

@socio637

5 жыл бұрын

@@donttrytokillme1231 yes but that was only because they wouldnt allow ppl to interfere with the future. Now that they went back in time, the future will be changed.

@Gration_

5 жыл бұрын

@@socio637 That's not it. She'll always bring about the apocalypse if they treat her the way they did. Her going bat shit crazy is a result of them not treating her like a person and walking over her, her whole life. What the little boy said is "She'll always be the cause, but maybe not if we can teach her to control her powers" to paraphrase, before they jumped. the convergent, or w/e that "Time police" organization is will always be there, and will always try to have Vanya destroy the world since that's what's supposed to happen. Since they jumped they can effectively inform their dad that keeping her powers under wraps will make her end the world, and instead of just blatantly shut her powers down, lessen the dosage of her medicine so she can still take it and have access to her powers, so she has limiters in place. With as smart as he apparently was, it's kinda stupid that he didn't see the shit coming from a mile away.

@christopheryoung5192

5 жыл бұрын

@@Gration_ I thought of that too but I think its going to take more than just treating her right. In the episodes "The Day That Wasn't" and "The Day That Was" we see Five change the timeline. There are several things out of place but in the end the characters all arrive at the same point as they did before Five changed everything. I think they are going to have to just kill Vanya in the end or send her somewhere far, far away.

@ppsarrakis

5 жыл бұрын

it happened different way,else Five would have mentioned " the moon is fucked up in the future"

Subscribed my dude!!! you seem pretty G👌💯

@KeyIssues

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I am fairly G

Raw power! Five is the most powerful when you factor in skill and experience.