I'm going to immediately skip to the end

@nolanbyrd5712

2 күн бұрын

Every time🙏🏾

@gennarobullo5690

2 күн бұрын

Good for you pal

@alekijr.777

2 күн бұрын

​@@gennarobullo5690good for us indeed.

@DripNingen

2 күн бұрын

Funny how people were asking truth to not put spoilers in the thumbnail 😂😂

@HIHi-os1lr

2 күн бұрын

same just wanna hear about the new character. i aint got time for the yapping 😂

stand proud orange piccolo ,you were strong

@brandon_4902

2 күн бұрын

He is strong. More like he was HIM.

@jozillaarevalo1747

2 күн бұрын

​@@brandon_4902 bro isn't good anymore

@fdszn4981

2 күн бұрын

@@jozillaarevalo1747he is

@yamete1729

2 күн бұрын

@@jozillaarevalo1747 he is

@rup7591

2 күн бұрын

@@jozillaarevalo1747keep coping

You should do other top tens as well like categories, hardest bosses, banner units, maybe favourite units of all time would be fun. Best aging units of all time too. Maybe you could rank every typing in the game from worst to best currently

@KurtIsRandom

2 күн бұрын

Best typing top 10 does sound really good

@sleepyyyLMAO

2 күн бұрын

Best categories would hittt

@perctivate

2 күн бұрын

we all know where physical is going

@Luinight.

2 күн бұрын

genius

@bonczus3058

2 күн бұрын

I actually would love top 10 banner units, Many people don't know which banner units are good because its not as obvious as dokkan fests or lrs especially if we are talking about some old banner unit eza

My goat orange piccolo, its almost your time 😢

@swagfacemcspidey595

2 күн бұрын

Rip the young prince

@obz7532

2 күн бұрын

😔i don't play dokkan anymore but this definitely hurts since he's my favorite character in DB. Stand proud piccolo💯

@dreadpink

2 күн бұрын

He’s hanging in there 😢😢

@izh2873

2 күн бұрын

My boy almost lasted 2 years in the top, he is trully the greatest one

@Cosmicbeagule

2 күн бұрын

I'm still impressed that he has aged this well for this long

I will yell this from the rooftops, this meta is the most fun and versatile one since 2021, even the worst Dfe unit of the year is still a usable unit that just needs a team. We have Super saiyan, special pose, super hero, Buu saga (super and extreme) movies, Realm of gods/uni reps/T.o.P, super bosses etc

@AtlasPunk-05

2 күн бұрын

It 100% is. I would argue it’s the healthiest meta the game has been in overall. It combines fun and strong releases with content that stays challenging and fun and varied and not just « there to give you a reason to summon ».

@gurnivajsingh8297

2 күн бұрын

Yes, that's why I am hoping for no more fights like Supreme Battle Spectacle Evo Vegeta and Blue Kaioken Goku

@doctorreed_

2 күн бұрын

dokkan has truly never been better

@ebby3215

2 күн бұрын

@@gurnivajsingh8297 ?

@SINE382

2 күн бұрын

If frieza dropped after lr str cooler and lr phy metal cooler imagine how hype that would’ve been then. Dokkan just losing sight of things. Phy turles could’ve been great and they made him so mid and giving the go bros the eza and not str bojack or lr turles the eza another misplay

Agl ui goku is so fucking good Forever’s I been preaching this GUARANTEED DODGE turn 1 you float him off he comes back if your below 77% I revive and if the fight is that long once he’s back he has GUARANTEED DODGE again HOW CAN U POWER CREEP THAT????

@ngaman-vx2bi

2 күн бұрын

Also I "think" he have garented dodge in his active skill turn too right ?

@soft8045

2 күн бұрын

​@@ngaman-vx2biNo

@chufy8944

2 күн бұрын

they alr have with dodge null which is countered by teq ui

@ngaman-vx2bi

2 күн бұрын

@@soft8045 😔

@TheGoldenTorch4677

2 күн бұрын

​@@chufy8944only when he transforms and only for 3 turns I believe

Wouldn't put teq MUI over beast. I'd still take beast protecting others over the RNG of the number of counters and support even if its massive.

@mikeymishima7167

2 күн бұрын

Nah I’m taking Ui

@aterrariastarcell5952

2 күн бұрын

Personally I’m taking mui cause his support and the fact his domain gives all allies 10%+ dodge for 5 turns just makes me wanna bust

@LeMuDX

2 күн бұрын

@@aterrariastarcell5952except that all that craziness is not until he transforms, beast does it right away, you’re not getting it until turn 5,6 or 7

@thegray6868

2 күн бұрын

@@aterrariastarcell5952 for the record teq MUI domain does not give 10% doge that's from is passive and its only for one turn after he transforms.

@Saikyo-no-Fusion-da

2 күн бұрын

Ye he also supports gogeta blue and soon the new jiren fight which is probably gonna be the hardest fight​@@aterrariastarcell5952

Global still only has access to 2 of the top ten units

@StarNameKev

2 күн бұрын

Thankfully we will have them soon 🙏

UI is definitely above Cell Max because of his SA support.

@joshkary5040

2 күн бұрын

They’re pretty equal imo because without UI, super is still the strongest team in the game or at least tied for it - without Cell Max, Villains fucking suck

One thing truth overlooks that not everyone is a whale like him so not everybody can finish the event in 5 turns or something like that

@soft8045

2 күн бұрын

You don't need to be a whale just having the u7 ezas with dupes which is very common for players who have been playing for years

@fuhrerzero5265

2 күн бұрын

@@soft8045 agl ui and int evo are common but not yellow coin ones like evoken,str ui

@soft8045

2 күн бұрын

@@fuhrerzero5265 Evoken is red coin and str ui is not in my list

@germantontini1098

2 күн бұрын

bro Im a free to play and have the 6th aniversary rainbow, like Im alr at the same lvl of a whale in the super hero team or the universe 7 team, and Im FREE TO PLAY

@fuhrerzero5265

2 күн бұрын

@@soft8045 still evoken doesn't appear to often on a banner

I think truth genuinely forgot that ui goku gives huge support to the whole team, it’s funny how with other top tier characters he wants to mention how important their abilities to protect and buff the team is, but with ui there is no mention of his amazing support.

@anthonyramirez7586

2 күн бұрын

He literally mentions that in tje video.. he also stats most of the toughest Fights also get the boost since they're super tight??

@donaldpeace

2 күн бұрын

​@anthonyramirez7586 I believe he's referring to the super attacks not the domain

@MisterSavage777

2 күн бұрын

Oh no he forgot something! 👁👄👁

@TrevaughnSmith-bj3lb

2 күн бұрын

​@donaldpeace he mentioned that so many times in the 2 hour showcase so I'm positive he knows

Really thinking of skipping Broly, buying him with coins skipping gammas don’t really want them and using 1k stones saved right now on beast and if pulled beast then using 55 ticket multi on gogeta, saving the 1k ish stones we will get throughout anniversary and saving for wwdc

good vid

Thanks!

First time in forever that I've agreed with one of these top 10s, the only change I would make is swapping buuhan and the gammas but it's so close to my thoughts on it that I'm fine with it

Having used the top three at 55%, I can say that Beast remains the king easily, second TEQ UI and third the two 6th Anni EZAs (those are rainbowed). Cell Max is below.

Truth you should 💯% do your top 50 best units of all time 2hr long video would hit hard!!

This list was actually a huge W! Only issue I have is I can’t see TEQ UI over my goat Vegeta , because of the 5 turn restriction..

@JACQUEZJOHNSON23

2 күн бұрын

UI better

@thatboi-_-j

2 күн бұрын

I don’t see it but what makes him better ?

Ok i was expecting a new tier for ui Goku splendid

Love the top 10 list, 9 2024 units and 1 2022 unit, my one and only goat 😢

YES YES YES on teq UI not needing to build up. I hate building teams and being like 'ok so the 4 of you have to get hit 5 times plus the other 3 need to do 4 super attacks THEN we're good'

My goat Orange Piccolo hanging on for dear life 😭

Also I don't disagree with it at all, but the fact that base form PHY Gogeta and AGL Broly are already considered mid is crazy haha. The 9th anni feels like just yesterday (wtf it was 6 months ago), and I remember when just their base forms already felt top tier, then their transformations were just absolutely absurd. Then in part two Beast came out, dropped his schmeat on the table and said "I'm gonna be stronger than y'alls transformed versions but on turn 1" lmfao

Now I think its time for a ranking all units until we get to lr int spirit bomb goku video

Can you do a top 10 category list?

Ngl i think Teq Ui should at least be 2. After cell max intro and active run out, he is cooked.

I’m so grateful you started KZread daddy Datruth I don’t know what I’d without you, mwwwwwwwaaaaa

The sync is so bad that Orange Piccolo is still the best LR in global while Jp he is at number 10

@rickgarcia4879

2 күн бұрын

wait.. you might be on to something

are you gonna change your top 10 TUR list taking into account the newer fights?

Truth do you think Super Hero is the best team in Dokkan History right now?

@Temperance_XVII

2 күн бұрын

It’s not even close, nearly all the strongest units in the game are super hero

@Hec_06

2 күн бұрын

@@Temperance_XVIIhe said in history, and in history its most likely completely true, no other team has been able to AUTO THE HARDEST STAGES 😂

@Temperance_XVII

2 күн бұрын

@@Hec_06 that’s exactly what I meant

@yasseralotaibi511

2 күн бұрын

Yes

@codered1132

2 күн бұрын

Idk is the sky blue?

That kiss at the end though. :)

I fully agree, except I'd put Agl UI over LR SSBE. But I can see it the other way around just as well.

When is there gonna be a Top 10 F2P Characters video Truth?

Hold strong OP we all know u are the Real GOAT

Idc what anyone says. When gogeta transforms, he’s literally doing everything. Dude dishes out shit ton of damage, 70% chance to evade which works well for him since he’ll get guaranteed crits when he dodges 4 times, and doing shit ton of additional, and has a 50% chance to nullify energy based super attacks. He’s top 3 for me

@maazshaikh5996

Күн бұрын

Key word is 'when'.

We need a banner unit tier list!

Daddy truth.

@firepunchman

2 күн бұрын

Mommy truth.

Farewell Orange Piccolo, You were a proud warrior, The proudest i ever saw even, But even for you the time to rest eventually comes

Orange Piccolo going out in a blaze of glory

Agl ui is comfortably over evo Vegeta now

Y’all remember when dokkanfest broly’s event was hard as hell and ssr’s weren’t guaranteed

Were either about to get powercreep when the sync happends or this top ten is gonna be dominate till 2025 wwd

I wonder when Truth will ever fix his windows issues lmao

Funny thing is i still need thst int blue vegeta on global. Legit no luch and had to get my first agl UI unit via coins too.

he did, he really separed ui sing from mui to not put ui sing above the 6th anniversary ezas.

So global got the EZA for Buuhan and Vegito early so do you think its possible that for the EX part of the 9th anniversary we could get LR Sign Goku and LR Cell Max as it would work with the celebration as the EZA's for the 6th anni Goku and Vegeta and the whole super hero and bosses celebration?

Watched teq mui tank a beast gohan 3mil super for under 400k after he supered. The boy can tank, alright?

After testing, TEQ UI's dmg reduction and guard is for normals, why people are saying they arent clearly put him in front of 1 attack.

@thevipez8740

2 күн бұрын

No it is for tanking supers, with his 60% damage reduction he tanks Gogeta blues 4,14million damage super, for only 134k, how is the "damage reduction for normals" then wen it makes him able to tank 4million+ damage supers?

@StarNameKev

2 күн бұрын

​@thevipez8740 that's after UI supers right?

@thevipez8740

2 күн бұрын

@@StarNameKev Yes, after super hes at 1,54million defense with 60% reduction and can casually live even 5million damage supers Pre-super though he would have 722k defense with Gamma 1 and LR U7 support (or TUR 17 and 18), With 722k and 60% damage reduction PRE-super he can tank a 3million damage super for 495k though so he can still tank the super and live even if hes hit PRE-super, and talking about like 2,5million supers he tanks those PRE-super casually for 290k The notion that he can't tank *ANY SUPERS at all,* and that his damage reduction is *ONLY* to help him against normals is completely not true and Datruth should stop saying it

@papiertoilette-pb9lf

2 күн бұрын

@@StarNameKev don't listen to him, he just take 10 support buff when it's not possible and lie about everything, "722K def pre super" lmao

@thevipez8740

2 күн бұрын

@@papiertoilette-pb9lf I literally debunked you under your last comment, are you not going to respond? You said the domain ROG buff also buffs the enemy, it doesnt. Also how is U7 support / Gamma 1 support / 18 and 17, impossible to be run? Dude team U7 literally can tank 3million+ supers and so on and Gamma 1 himself is argaubly one of the tankiest units in the entire game, why would you not run them? lol

This video uploaded seconds apart from phizers top 10 bust in Dokkan history (also first)

Dividing the two forms is crazy

@kamehameharem

2 күн бұрын

That's what I'm saying. If truth is doing this for teq ui why isn't he doing it for str super vegito? Super vegito would be top 10 at least if not top 5 if he was ranked on his own. Inconsistent truth going out of his way to wank the newest unit

@tylergreene8018

2 күн бұрын

@@kamehameharem cause neither form is on his list

@JACQUEZJOHNSON23

2 күн бұрын

​@@kamehameharemVegitio was trash 🗑️

@HerOfTime8

2 күн бұрын

@@kamehameharem well he just did that to show how different the forms were, his actual placement is LR str beasthan at 1 and LR teq UI sign at 3

Last remnant of year 7 Dokkan fading until the the anni EZAs💔💔💔

5 turn condition transformation is only bad if you are a whale, but for the avg player they will see him transform more often

@DragonRyuken777

2 күн бұрын

No, it’s terrible to everyone. You get the God unit out later which exposes your team. Unless you use items to baby your units.

@troy7835

2 күн бұрын

@@DragonRyuken777I think the og comment is more accurate, the average player has most of these cards 55%, if they were even lucky enough to pull every top tier new unit at all. Fights last much longer, at least 2-3 more turns for an average player and therefore five turns is not common to see

@DragonRyuken777

2 күн бұрын

@@troy7835 Then you’re only helping the case for the condition to be horrible. More turns where you’re exposed Units like MUI, SSBE and TEQ MUI have a 1 turn god mode which you may or may not waste because the conditions are horrible for some of these characters. If you could get MUI, Broly and some of these units faster, you can take advantage of this 1 turn god mode on different stages with different composures of difficulty. For example, imagine if you could get Gogeta and Broly turn 1 or 3. Or even, on turn 4 (rather than their turn 4). Again, the condition is terrible for ANY level of Dokkan player.

@JACQUEZJOHNSON23

2 күн бұрын

​@@troy7835facts

Funny thing is wwc is coming up in like a month and he would probably have to update it again

@StarNameKev

2 күн бұрын

Fax lol

@RyogaEchizen

2 күн бұрын

more views/money for him, ofc he'll do it.

I feel like it’s too early to do that since team universe 7 is gonna be here tomorrow but whatever

@randomguy2472

2 күн бұрын

yeah, I like team uni 7, but they aren’t a top 10 unit in the game

@keepyourselfsafe6554

2 күн бұрын

@@randomguy2472 they look like an insane support that can tank even str gogeta blue super attack, if he considers the gammas in the top 10 then lr u7 should too since they are basically the same but turn 1

Orange piccolo is my king. Hes still number one on global imo

@shaft2139

2 күн бұрын

Teq vegeta, ssj3 goku, fat buu, Lr buuhan>>

@whitegold2727

2 күн бұрын

I don't think that's an opinion until global 9th ani, just a fact

Should i Summon for gammas on global or skip them?

I only agree with this with the concession that this is the current meta. As soon as we get longer content, UI eclipses beast and cell

@BruhBruh-ii6go

2 күн бұрын

Absolutely especially cell max. Every hard fight is literally JUST short enough for him, in every showcase it’s literally a one or two turn dif between him getting slaughtered

1500 stones and still didn't get UI Goku 🙂

Z Broly WWDC incoming

@jordy7625

2 күн бұрын

That would be perfect

@reddog8841

2 күн бұрын

@@jordy7625 Super broly gonna get a proper team now

@fun2211

2 күн бұрын

YES.

On the topic of Orange Piccolo.. The one thing I haven't been able to understand regarding his transformation, and why it's considered so strong.. Do no other Giant Transformation/Damage Immunity's in game cancel Boss Super Attacks like his? (Unrelated question as well, how are his TUR and SSR? I have the TUR Rainbowed from JUST dupes 💀💀) PS: I had to go back to look.. I've been playing this game since July 4, 2016 (4 days before the 1st Gbl Anniversary 💀), and I'm still finding out things that I didn't realize/understand.. I mean, I'm still finding F2P Stones laying around.. LMAO

Majin buu saga vs evo vegeta and kioblue goku when?!?!?!

Op thinking he still top 10

As a global player I'm hurt that we don't have a lot of units or the Ezas that JP has smh

I understand the placements but I believe that Cell Max should not be above UI (and debatably the 6y LRs for the same reason) simply because UI is statistically better offensively and defensively, while the gap of utility between the two is noticeable, but not overwhelming. Simply put, SHs did not need UI that much. BUT he is broken nonetheless and is the first domain for that team which is the last mechanic they were missing (aside from usher but that’s far from essential seeing what the team has), while Cell Max was absolutely ESSENTIAL to SBs, and he is much more permissive because of that, but he also isn’t exactly as broken as UI individually, not to mention UI has a top 5 link partner. I get the reasoning behind the placement, but if « he permits the existence of Super Bosses » is the decisive factor then maybe Broly should be above Buutenks too. Just my two cents, your list is really good overall and I think we can all agree that every single card here deserves to be where they’re at with only minor, one-place disagreements. Aside from Piccolo who I find to be more debatable.

you should do a top 10 lrs for 55% as a couple of the problems with the characters like gogeta, broly, ui goku, etc is because the fight is finished before they could reach their transformation or whatever but when all the characters are not at their greatest potential it does draw the fight out causing alot of the time restricted downsides to not be so bad

@darkflameofphonix4709

2 күн бұрын

Truth doesn't have that much experience with 55% units. He only sees and ranks units at full power.

@bslayer083

2 күн бұрын

@@darkflameofphonix4709 dosent truth do like the 55% showcases tho

@RyogaEchizen

2 күн бұрын

Fr

Link to the tier list?

Honestly I'd prefer to see a tierlist of the top 11-20 lrs than this, because i feel like I've seen this video like 4 times in a month. And it was kinda obvious.

Would I be crazy skipping this anniversary and just waiting for the 10th? With the sync happening this year, we should be getting the 10th anniversary celebration in January instead of July.

I think str vegito is quite abit better now. Early phases which hit hard means you can easily get vegito out on turn 4 which allows you to take a peek and keep stacking or transform right away. With a top heavy team vegitos scouter provides more value than orange piccolo giant form. Even if vegito may not be 100% safe, you transform then instantly float him off then the other characters would have killed the boss before you even see vegito again

Before watching Imo With new events 9th year+mui are >= cell max .honestly they can be shuffled in any order I see argument for agl ui ,ssbe or teq ui being 2

Why does no one talk about gogeta multiple turn heal when evaluating him?

Teq LR UI can quad super against aoe bosses in slots 2/3 at 55% 🙃

I think the global sync is gonna help your channel, because your main audience I would guess is global players and as a global player seeing your content is cool but say you do the global 9th year summons you’re not gonna be that hyped if u pull one of the anniversary Lrs cause you’ve used them for 6 months and more than likely they aren’t the best cards anymore on Jp, so as a viewer I feel less excited because you’ve already told me that there’s better cards coming out later, when they sync and we get content at the same time I think it’s gonna really boost your content

Its Crazy How Piccolo is getting to 2 years old and Bro is still in the top 10 The grill master is him

Piccolo leads Brain War category!!!

i take agl ui over evo vegeta idc

i didn’t know brain war was a category 😂😂 why does it say that

46 Seconds ago is crazy

@kalidjoee4996

2 күн бұрын

huh

Bro judged cell max’s placement on this list off of one run in vegeta stage in which he had godly luck where none of his units got hit by a super for the first 3 turns.

@moodishere

2 күн бұрын

You don't play the game it's ok man

@bonczus3058

2 күн бұрын

No

@gamerf2p843

2 күн бұрын

You are correct , I would not take cell max over teq UI, too me cell max is a cooler 2.0

@moodishere

2 күн бұрын

@@gamerf2p843 how is cell max similar to cooler other than he has high damage? We're going to overlook the great defense with guard, and a team protecting ability?

@bonczus3058

2 күн бұрын

@@moodishere They clearly haven't used him lol, at least not on a correct setup, And Ui isnt even *that* good since his base form isn't extremely impressive

Vector lookin ah list

Why separate ui with mui it’s kinda unfair for the others units

23:36 ok then you might as well do the same for broly, agl vegito, and fusion zamasu Fusion zamasu is 10 tiers above the rest since he's immortal in his domain

Ui top 2 👍

I mean the condition could be worse the only problem is he is not protecting the team untill the 5. Turn of him So thats seperating him from gohan But when he transforms he is the ultimate power of the game and nothing compares to him and for that its not that bad

I agree with the rankings but UI sign goku should be S tier

my goat corrupt zamasu isnt top 10 anymore😔😔

Having used teq ui extensively the past few days, i gotta say he feels very vulnerable until he transforms. And you really really dont want to run 2 of him, as the second one not being able to transform makes him a sitting duck without his intro up. Yeah, sure once he is in mui, he is basically untouchable and putting out godly levels of damage, but its those 5 turns before he transforms that usually matter the most in the hard fights today. I dont think ranking a unit and their transformation separately is fair at all. If we are doing that then str super vegito should be in the top 5, broly too. But since thats not reality outside of private servers, we have to be realistic and take the unit as a whole into account. And as a whole unit teq ui goku is worse than beast and cell max, they are just too consistent from turn 1 compared to ui goku who can easily get caught out before turn 5 if dodge fails you against a super. The 50% dr with no guard isnt enough to survive these 3m boss supers.

OP is holding on by his Giant Form, tbh. That Giant Form is incredible, and is an insane team protector, but the character around it is faltering hard. As soon as we get a new good Giant Form character, OP is dead and gone.

Truth acts like the 10% dodge is the only thing UI gives to the team, what about the 60% stats it gives not just one time but every turn he’s on? Truth is so terrified to talk about his support

@thevipez8740

2 күн бұрын

That support literally makes AGL UI go from 1million defense to 1,6million defense with that support alone, with U7 support to and gamma 1 and so on it jumps to 2,4million which makes him even be able to tank a decent chunk of supers lol

@LeMuDX

2 күн бұрын

Turn 5 at the earliest

@cobaltjay9862

2 күн бұрын

@@LeMuDX doesn’t matter, still more than just damage and 10% dodge, it’s enough where Teq UI takes double digits from post super normals without his intro

@TheGoldenTorch4677

2 күн бұрын

​@@cobaltjay9862oh for sure it's more than that. That buff that your units are getting all the top tier fights are also getting buffed. So any not top tier units you run is going to get slaughtered

@cobaltjay9862

2 күн бұрын

@@TheGoldenTorch4677 sorry I didn’t know the 18 ki super gave the enemy 60% support, I thought it was only the domain that gave 15%, silly me

You are not consider everything for every unit. 1. Time pass, After a lot of turns (how's the unit, beast is a glass cannon) 2. The tanked super attack (no dodge built) etc

they keep making transformation conditons worse and worse, next celebration boutta be "transforms from 9th turn start of turn while at 1% hp" or somethin 😭

24:40 MUI can die if you don’t dodge enough on his 100% dodge turn and doesn’t build his dodge chance

Am i the only one who thinks that Piccolo should get a new unit or get a buff/EZA?(specifically the str rare summon of 2-3 years ago)

@darkflameofphonix4709

2 күн бұрын

We need standalone Orange Piccolo for sure.

Truth out of curiosity, if you were to put the transformed phy Lr Blue Gogeta as if he was a turn 1 unit, like you did with transformed Lr UI, on the their list where would you put him? I actually reckon you coud argue him to be on the same teir as Beast and Cell Max

@r.speedwagon1758

2 күн бұрын

Not that high, i have him and transformed he is still worse than evo vegeta and mui goku

@JJ47895

2 күн бұрын

S is too low he can literally do everything lol

@AtlasPunk-05

2 күн бұрын

Better than Cell Max, worse than Beast and MUI

@TheGoldenTorch4677

2 күн бұрын

​@@AtlasPunk-05oof no way is he better than cell max.

@AtlasPunk-05

2 күн бұрын

@@TheGoldenTorch4677 He is better in every way past Target use. Before he dwarves in damage too. Both only tank normals but die to supers (after intro for Cell Max), but Gogeta has dodge. Gogeta has orb changing. Gogeta is just better individually. Now, if we were to talk about their utility relative to their singular best team, Cell Max blows Gogeta out of the water, as he’s the very reason Super Bosses can even competitively exist. In what they bring to their main team : Cell Max>GB In how good they are individually and how versatile they are in teams : GB>CM

Why not factor aging for units? Cell max isn’t even a reliable speed blitzing unit today, so why is he at #2 when bosses are getting more HP and are capable of outlasting the 2 turns he’s good 💀

Turn 1-3 Piccolo is not an problem, however once you use the giant form, then he appears next turn he gets COOKED by any boss that isnt AGL and you dont have the 7 hits and 30% restriction, that's why people rank him lower because they dont end the fight in less than 5-6 turns since 55% units do less far damage than 100% by an massive margin.

@TheGoldenTorch4677

2 күн бұрын

But like. Who not on the list tanks better then has 2 turns of invincibility. Then can survive normals when not type disadvantage.

@anstorner

2 күн бұрын

@@TheGoldenTorch4677 In an broken team like Super Heroes that automatically wins you the game, however on worse teams that take alot more to take down bosses it no longer is, which is were it should matter more than a team that easily stomps everything without effort even without it.

@TheGoldenTorch4677

2 күн бұрын

@@anstorner but the thing is superheros is a huge team. Yes it's the best but that's only if you have all the new units. All of top the future saga and the movies fall under that umbrella(the super types. And you don't need to run a full super hero team. Battle of wits final trump card and fused fighters are some of his strong teams outside of movie and super hero. And all three of those have overlapping with good superhero units for his intro and active

@anstorner

2 күн бұрын

@@TheGoldenTorch4677 Those are Super hero with extra steps, i meant more teams that alot of times are required for missions like worthy rivals, revenge etc.

@TheGoldenTorch4677

2 күн бұрын

@@anstorner fam. Worthy rivals? How many good super hero units are on worthy rivals

Crazy how fast str vegito fell off

People saying UI's transformation condition doesnt matter or isnt a big deal is crazy. All my units are lower dupes so I usually have more chances to use the transformation, but even *then* , Super Heroes tears through events so fast that its usually only for 2 turns that I even have Teq UI transformed; and his domain is so powerful that the rest of the team just tears through them even faster. I'm a massive fanboy of the unit, a transforming LR UI has been the top of my unit withlist for years, and they did his animations and kit even better than I imagined; but its clear he's not #1 in the game, and while he's absurdly strong, he's not infallible either, and I think thats a good thing. Everyone should accept that overall, he's solidly below Beast, and I've seen many convincing arguments that the 6th year EZAs might be just a hair stronger than him too, considering how good they are early in the fight (and thats what makes Beast the king as well) As far as Cell Max, I have little to no doubt he's better than Teq UI, but I can't say because I don't have Cell Max...or LR Broly, or any good Super Bosses team at all lmfao. A brother is suffering 😭

If you making a second tier list for post transformation, then I guess you should make the same for all top LRs and it's gonna make a lot of difference

UI wins the fight the second he transforms, so for once i think 5th turn is actually fair. Turn 4 would just be TOO good