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You definitely earned your ultimate clears fam
@zesian5823
Жыл бұрын
You the real MVP!
@orbmac
Жыл бұрын
That long discord message 🤣 both of you two are hilarious in your content❤️
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Thank you former navy seal Crystal o7
@bazelgoose9247
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow crystal bring the special squad navy seals to clear kougan ucob! Marvellous!
@VampireNoblesse
Жыл бұрын
imo p8s is harder than half the ultimates out there... EW has ramped up the difficulty on all accounts..
As a retired ultimate raider I can absolutely agree that the majority of the difficulty is around scheduling and persistence. The fights aren't really THAT hard, it's just they're really long. If you beat your head against it long enough it will fall, you just have to find 7 other people willing to hit their head enough times
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the vouch my guy
@Double_Cheeseburger
Жыл бұрын
My dude having to spend 1000 hours progging something is difficulty.
@notoriousotaran8015
Жыл бұрын
@Double Cheeseburger The main "difficulty" I'd say comes from the people rather than the fight itself. Making sure the 7 other people are motivated to do it, making sure they're studying the fight, going over the strats, ready to come on time and come consistently. Making sure people are progging at a similar pace and no one person is significantly impacting the progress of the entire group. That 7 other people element really adds the highest difficulty
@qwertyuiop3656
Жыл бұрын
@@notoriousotaran8015 You have to set the president from the start. Elect a leader who makes final decisions on everything. Proper discussion before your 1st pull is paramount. Everyone needs to know the extreme importance of communication. You need to be able to effectively understand what went wrong on every pull without creating division. Individuals need to be honest when causing the wipe as well as speaking up when either they don't know what happened or don't understand the mechanic. D Lastly, don't move on until every single person fully understands the mechanic and their job or else many unessesscary wipes incur
@PareSM
Жыл бұрын
@@Double_Cheeseburger it took me 100 hours MAX to clear my first ultimate. Ur hopelessly misinformed
Don't underestimate ERP. It only gets harder the better you get at it. I'd call that a Challenge
@ode-blu
Жыл бұрын
I thought ERP meant Extreme Raid Progging
@umbralp2195
Жыл бұрын
@@ode-blu no no no. Exotic RP
@justcus
Жыл бұрын
oh it gets HARDER alright 😏
@Yamidoragon
Жыл бұрын
In ERP the challenge is to make things harder
@xReaghan
Жыл бұрын
And the drama that comes with it, stay away from it
The hardest thing about ultimate is not killing the person who didn’t do their homework.
This is an awesome video seeing your growth from egging you on to clear P4S to you now spreading that same message to other people that are scared to try that you can always get better with effort. Great video Kou
im gonna be honest most people wont have the same luck as you did. On top of them carrying you through the fight damage wise (but lets be honest damage isnt even a factor anymore in old ultimates), you also had two streamer friends with stacked players who are good. Not everyone is gonna have that luck, but still hopefully for those who continue to pursue for a clear will eventually get it.
@grandruby5343
Жыл бұрын
I feel like that’s a thing that doesn’t get brought up that much. Streamer privilege is a very real thing. Not even to validate people who say his clear is legitimate, because it is, but having acres to a really skilled group doesn’t happen that often
@Temptest09
Жыл бұрын
@Grand Ruby streamer privilege is 100% a thing. Again I don't mean to be rude but they did get carried on damage, their log provides the proof. Any regular player would've probably gotten the boot, in this case they didn't because again, streamer privilege and having connections within the XIV content creator space. No regular player will have that outlet of players available let alone that luck to not get replaced by someone better.
@Kenzaii
Жыл бұрын
dont know why ppl cry out about luck, old ultimates dont need anyone to carry it anymore, random ppl in pf will get 10 clears before a casual GOOD static even clear it their first time only speaking for older ones, dsr and top now are different topic go in pf, get your own clear, its not even remotely challenging
@Temptest09
Жыл бұрын
@@Kenzaii Cap lmao
@drukae5039
Жыл бұрын
@@Temptest09 he's not capping tho. Fights like UCOB, UWU, TEA and DSR are puggable here on JP DC. People here also agree to use 1 common strat for every ultimate fight. As for DPS check, it is also really non-existent for UCOB and UWU. Trust me, you just need time to clear ultimate fights. If you don't, don't do it because the prog is time consuming.
Defining your worth by clearing a MMO's hardest content is a recipe for stupidity. Signed: A Former World First WoW raider
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Oh shit a legend, welcome and yes LOL
@sleeperboi8701
Жыл бұрын
There's like a million self-proclaimed world first raiders. I don't believe you.
@Temptest09
Жыл бұрын
Raiding on day 1 doesn't make you a world first raider lmao. Calm down
@raviolijesus6181
Жыл бұрын
It’s not about defining my own worth..it’s about fun, firstly, and secondly it’s about flashing that shiny weapon that the vast majority of the playerbase will never obtain because most players in FF14 are ABSOLUTE TRASH DOG WATER players and they do get jealous of the weapons..they’ve said so on many occasions and every excuse they give as to why they don’t care is literally just them coping with never being able to clear difficult content
@kingepostle
Жыл бұрын
@@raviolijesus6181 As a person who has completed a lot of top tier content across multiple MMORPGs and such... it becomes worth a lot less when you realize that only the player base of such game is going to care. I'd be more than happy to carry people to get such transmogs/glams, but at the end of the day, when the computer turns off, it's pretty much gone. Then you're back to square one, just like any other game.
My Piece of advice would be that if you want to try Ultimates, definitely, DEFINITELY start with UwU (Also the name is just short for "Ultima Weapon Ultimate" instead of the Duty Name). UwU is a short fight, and has a lot of smaller, fast phases, which makes progressing feel pretty good early on, since you'll hit a lot of big milestones. Difficulty-wise, it is also the closest to Savage.
@Hype_Incarnate
Жыл бұрын
I just started clearing with a static last year and I said that uwu is like savage+
@jiskool1
Жыл бұрын
Yea I learned this the hard way by starting with tea 🙃.
@kzkaa.
Жыл бұрын
If I ever decided to try an ultimate, I sure as hell ain't gonna start with DSR
@Yokai_Yuri
Жыл бұрын
Apparently you can carry UWU if someone knows all mechs and do call outs. Doesn't have too much individual responsibilities
@ember-evergarden
Жыл бұрын
UCoB is still easier because you can healer lb3 like 4x and still clear.
As someone who loved challenges, I ended up clearing the first 3 Ultimate raids within 3 months of each other. Reclearing them proved to me how much of a memory test it was and once you can do it once, you can do it 1000 times over.
@sebbaku
Жыл бұрын
@Phoenix Ehh not really, there's toolboxes for that which are commonly used in PF parties which I did.
I would still recommend UWU to anyone who is interested, it is by far the easiest ultimate. As a casual savage raider, it took me and my two friends about a month of weekend grinding clear it. I recommend tessan twintails’ guide on it for what to do. Dont be discouraged and give it a shot!
I felt that part about time crunch. I was doing UCoB back in Shadowbringers and my group got up to the final phase. But there was just one issue. Endwalker was right around the corner. We didn't get the clear before the early access and never got back together ^^; I still want to go back in and get that clear but I also took a little break from raiding for the first year of Endwalker.
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
if you need a BLM on NA DC's i got you
I recognize the paladin in ur vid!! They helped me get my first TEA clear a few days ago. Congrats on both ulti clears, it's super impressive that you did UWU right away after beating Ucob :D
Great video Kou! Love the hildebrand ultimate in the background.
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
👀
DAAAAAMN CONGRATZ KOU !!! Very deserved mate, very glad for you !! :D (also lmao the long navy seal message XD epic !)
SIR THIS MIGHT BE YOUR BEST VIDEO YET ALSO CONGRATS!!
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
Congrats again on the clear Kou! I said it before when we got the clear and I will say it again here. You had some of the cleanest play I have ever seen from someone who had never been to Golden Bahamut before. You absolutely killed it. You earned that clear and I am incredibly grateful for the opportunity to have helped with it!
Congrats!!! That first ultimate clear feels amazing honestly. I think I cried a little with mine. XD
Hey, really enjoyed the video. Awesome to see you get the clear! And ngl, I paniced a bit when you used the discord notification sound. xD
I already finished watching all of your videos at work. Thanks for uploading a new video, you're my favorite degenerate
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
I gotcha bby
I would love to get into Ultimate. Hard to find a group that is willing to do the old ones + do late night runs
@fuadgamer9043
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile im struggling finding dedicated daytime raiding group in JP, especially on weekend daytime Can't do late nights progging anymore since i full WFO now, and need to wake up super early in the morning.
Grats on the clear! One think I'll also recommend is don't fully push off pf. To my knowledge most data centers have dedicated communities that compile standardized strats for pf, for Primal we have UPR. TEA and DSR are very difficult but possible in pf, and UwU and UCoB are very common to see and aren't too bad atp. If you want extra practice (which you can never get enough of imo) or can't find/can't/don't want to join a static, pf is absolutely a viable option for ults.
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
This is true, I only like statics because I’m most comfortable in them. PF’s are good options !
You got it done tho!! Grats on the clears Kou!!!
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ZEHRINE 🥺🥺
Congrats on the clears! I’m looking forward to trying the game tonight. Don’t worry,I won’t skip story
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy it man!
@MRYELLOWLIVE
Жыл бұрын
Thanks I will!
@katrinascarlet5637
Жыл бұрын
My free company is very encouraging about the story, if I'm having a hard time with a boss I'll borrow someone OP and they're always like "Don't worry about us, enjoy the cutscenes."
you forgot the reason what made you clear the content: - prog with 7 others who have cleared the contents
@aiu941
Жыл бұрын
unless they stream high end content as their main thing this is kind of every xiv streamer. zepla, the wow peeps coming over and trying it like rich, kou; they're all casual to slightly above average, then get a very smooth and sped up ticket to ultimate clears cause of clout. don't blame them but these videos are always so... well, you know. Just say thank you for getting you the clear and leave it at that.
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
i swear i thought i mentioned that LMAO
@reapus1792
Жыл бұрын
@@Kougaon I promise ultimates are more satisfying and fun when you aren't being carried through it. The memories of struggle and perseverance with your team is the reward, not the weapon or title.
Congratz my dude... yup Ultimate itll take some time but you will clear it eventually dont give up
My first Ultimate run was before Endwalker in a dead month after 5.5 to 6.0. It was UWU and we bring 2 people that never savage before and with total 8 people (all member) never cleared the fight before (7 people never tasted ultimate) It took us 6 months to actually clear the fight (our first clear was actually AFTER Endwalker released and we need to adjust our rotation to the new one). A lot of things happen, there's a fight, a big fight between close friend. Even I got into a fight myself. But I guess that just what happen when you are on something for a very long time (with slow progress) and facing what seemed like a deadline (Endwalker release) one of our member even left (luckily someone who have cleared are willing to help as a replace). And honestly, that feeling when you actually cleared after all what happen with that very same group is kind of irreplaceable. Fortunately my 2nd ultimate which is TEA only took us 2 months to clear.
I started UCoB through PF on a whim, and got up to the start of phase 3 with purely PF for the longest time. I ended up getting a static for it and we were doing good, but things fell apart before we even ended up hitting phase 3 (we reached ravensbeak on Nael). Felt sour about it for a long while, but when I hop back into XIV on the 1st I'm finally going back to the CoB, with PF more than likely. I WILL get my UCoB.
@nevy4256
Жыл бұрын
also if you take anything away from this comment, don't be scared to jump into ultimates if you want to do so. I'm of the firm belief that anybody can clear an ultimate if you know your buttons, and you can put together the puzzle that is the fight. Also go do Coils of Bahamut. Unsync it with your 90 job or a buddy, the story is great :U
@nevy4256
Жыл бұрын
Figured I'd come back to this post now As of last night, I completed UCoB!
CONGRATS KOU happy it worked out. Also I don't know why 9:10 was funny either maybe Aku has superpowers
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU !!!
Its not really mentioned that while on PF you do it when you want, its also out of your control how much you have to wait for it to actually fill
I Think ultimate mechanically is perfect for what it is, but the real issue is nobody has TIME anymore for scheduled raiding. all the actually mature people who are fun and chill you'd want to raid with are too busy struggling to survive in real life and make ends meet. The real ultimate is even finding a raid group for savage at all, it's just not viable anymore to do so.
Grats on your clears! Someday I want to try an ultimate, but first I need to play AST better...
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and you'll get there ;w; !
banger video as always bro
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@YuushioChan
Жыл бұрын
@@Kougaon on a serious note, your advice is pretty helpful because I struggle with schedules as well LOL (hopefully 6.5+ will be my "lets tackle ultimate" time..)
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
@@YuushioChan YOU GOT THIS
Congratulations! Good job.
I hope to clear TEA one day because I love the way the weapons look, and it would make me feel good about myself but I'm still a sprout so i have a long way to go.
This happened to me. He's just like me fr fr. I did pf clear for uwu because of a time crunch for doing 6.2 since the 6.2 static's time schedule was going to be really unstable. It was like 12 hours a day in pf hell for four days straight to get from annihilation to clear. It was suffering but it also feels nice to carry the uwu stick to trick people into thinking I know how to play blackmage. Anyway congrats!
I mean ERP is way harder than Ultimate's.not only do you have to schedule but you have to write??? and make it sound good??? lol Srsly tho, i was so happy to be there that stream, im proud, you really worked hard and while I know im forever away from savages and ultimates, a 2x a week 3 hr run while long is more possible than i thought (as most people i know have many days a week 5-7hrs which is like naw) gives me hope Can't wait to see you clear the others one day :3
I wish I had the confidence to believe I could even attempt these... I've only ever cleared one savage tier, and even though all my friends say I'm good enough to do Ultimate it's just hard for me to believe it. Great vid though, always impressed and inspired watching people give it a shot and succeed against the odds.
@blackfox4138
Жыл бұрын
Don't let that get you down. Ultimates are entirely different from Savage in almost every way. The challenge more comes from the length of the raids rather than the actual difficulty. They're still difficult, but the biggest factor of whether or not you'll beat them is simply time. Dedication beats Ultimates, not skill. :)
@DespyMitlu
Жыл бұрын
Bro, you cleared a savage tier congrats. Hmu if you're NA and we'll make a group to get your feet wet if you want :) You've def got what it takes if you managed to clear a final savage boss. My gf went from sprout to to heavens legend in 2022 with not that much video game experience so I'm sure you can clear an ultimate too
@exka7727
Жыл бұрын
Hey pal if you have a savage tier cleared you're more than ready to clear ult content, like the video says it's not a matter of skill, it's a matter of determination, study the fight and just keep going till clear, that's how you do it, if you go to a static and it doesn't work, you just keep searching for another one, or pf it, if you keep at it one day you'll clear all ults.
@isateasane
Жыл бұрын
@@blackfox4138this!! I cleared dsr and im a green/blue parser. Dps checks are super ez. It just takes time bc the fights longer and it takes more time to prog bc prog points are locked behind like 10mins of fight lol
@civares8609
Жыл бұрын
Ik this is very late but trust yourself. It's just a game, it's fine to make mistakes and learn from it. If your static gets toxic then so what? Just do it and eventually get the clear.
i just recently got quad legend and im in TOP right now, DSR was probably the most committed to anything ive been in my entire life lmao, 3 months of prog and the clear at the end was the most excited i think ive ever been. TOP is gonna be a great time i can already tell
Ultimates can either be some of the best experience you can have in this game or the worst, all depending on your group. I played with a group I didn't enjoy playing with for DSR and even tho we got the kill, it would have been so much better if I actually enjoyed playing with them. On the contrary, I spent 6 months+ killing ucob with different groups (after it took roughly 30 days for my first one) because I was helping a lots of friends do the fight and it was the most fun I've had in 14 to date.
They aren't difficult tbh, they just take time. Anyone who wants to can clear, just figure out your level of dedication and prog at your own pace.
Well deserved clears for u kou!! I started ultimate recently as well with my fc as well so i hope i can do my best!
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU RAE good luck on your's!!
anyone know what chest armor he wearing?
@emekandubueze1366
Жыл бұрын
late allagan coat of casting you can get it with wolfs mark
good video keep up the good work yay
Awesome story! Still want to clear the ultimates, although I probably won't.
Thanks for the motivation bro
this is so inspirational actually i have so much anxiety trying to find a group
Great video as always Kougaon, any plans for twitch lives ?
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
I got plans for twitch dies
@itallomarcus137
Жыл бұрын
@@Kougaon lmao
What about doing ERP in an Ultimate?
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Now you’re thinking
Scheduling is no joke, as I am one who is across the pond from the people who were progging UWU. I was up between 1-3am and felt horrible because I lacked focus from being tired. While I was happy to figure out Garuda's mechs within my first ever attempt, I felt pathetic having to drop out on only the second day of prog but I had to put my health first, it didn't feel right giving my worst when everyone else was giving their best. I was also..EXTREMELY intimidated (tho that is my own issue to tackle) and while everyone was super nice and helpful my brain loves to believe otherwise. As a player who's not even a year old into the beautiful community, I hope to come back when I am fully ready. To achieve a place on the list of many who have conquered one of these demonic hellspawn runs would mean a lot to a shy pessimistic bastard like me.
As Pythagoras once said, "a clear is a clear"
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Amen
I started UWU as my first Ult, I've gotten all the way to Titan gaols with purely just PF + 2-3 friends that are available sometimes, It's been such a bog but I hope to get my shiny weapon soon ;w;
Honestly I want to do UCOB, I just like on how the weapon, but sadly whenever trying to find others, they just don't either or just intimidate me sometimes, its just sometimes I get sadden even my friend told me on not to do it since its not worth it, but I truly want to do it, even thought I will failed, I gotta learn some how, and the whole point is to learn and do it again
I've been wanting to do a ultimate again mostly uwu still probably won't know to clans in Garuda
The night this video came out, I had a dream I did an ultimate with you...I think this is a sign. 👾
This is how I felt about trying to get clear on Sephirot Unreal. So many failed groups, didn't know if I was going to get a clear before his time window was up, but I was like 'damn it, I want to beat this guy!" And man was it an awesome feeling when it happened. So many groups with people not sticking around, not getting mechanics, not doing what they should be doing, and then in the same night, clear and also a reclear. I am just sad they don't give out a title or any kind of reward to clearing Unreals, because it felt like such an accomplishment for me.
YOU TESTING ME! ON BEING A REAL GAMER? I have a severe *lack of a LIFE* to prove it boy
this man is up in here saying he sucks as if we didn't toss him into p4s right after he cleared p3s before he even had a chance to really look at mechs and he did better than some of the people who HAD progged it before
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
nah im still bad
Congrats - but I am starting to feel in this game that the way to clear content is to be a streamer. LOL But ultimates do seem like a major time commitment and not just for prog. They seem very long.
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Nah you can definitely clear without being a streamer LOL. It helped me get the clear faster but it doesn’t mean it’s impossible. If you wanna get it just put in the time! You got this :D
Honestly I wanna do UCOB i like the mch weapon the barrel spins when you Unshealth was a big plus for me.
I hear you…I want to clear ucob…I am about half way through the fight and it looks like it will be a while before pf picks up again. Bahamut prime is a pain to prog
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
It’s the biggest wall, if you got a twitter account and dm me I may be down to help prog! I really enjoyed UCOB !
True, Static is all about atmosphere in the party, skill is not really an issue(unless you fail at the same mech for god damn9+th time). UCOB was like the most difficult when DSR hasn't come out yet. but the thing is DSR and UCOB there are some mech, which you'll feel RNG that you're gonna die or gonna pass, that's why they're difficult.
Not even surprised that Todd was involved :D pretty chill and humble dude, wish wow had more peeps like him (yeah this is not a diss I play and love both)
I have alot of bad blood along the way for my first ucob clear, looking back... it was not worth the trouble
6:20 lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂 “I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it” Christal ain’t no joke…
Yeah. It’s just something to sink your time in… something to work towards until new patches come out. I use to get so stressed out by ultimates. Making a static, clearing as fast as I could and then I get the title wear it for a week and then it loses flavor like old gum and play something else.
My static is currently progging UWU, and I met them just out of sheer luck. They needed an 8th for their group, and I was introduced by someone I had met recently. They asked if I wanted to prog UWU, which has always been a goal of mine, so I agreed. Fast forward to now, we're going strong, and I would consider each member a good friend of mine. Our raid leader is also quite knowledgeable and a very charismatic guy, so he's the glue that kinda keeps us together. For everyone who wants to get started but doesn't know how; just put yourself out there. That's basically what I did, and I've found some friends in the process. Cheers for the video, Kougaon.
I had to clear uwu in pf alone right when patch 6.2 dropped it was chaotic
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Props to you for clearing it in PF alone, i could never
gz on your clears
All those numbers one may post in savage shouldnt deter anyone from doing ultimates as they are different from each other. I like to optimize my numbers in savage and thats all I need to make me have fun and feel good. You dont have to be that type of player and you can still clear ultimates. Just need a lot of time, patience and dedication.
I cleared one Ultimate out of spite and had no desire to do more... then they added the frame kits from Ultimate and now I have to do them T_T
I cannot wait for ERP (Ultimate)
wow you've successfully made it so I never want to even touch this content ever.
3:31 If you can handle MW2's lobby chat, then you can handle any chat
Progging ultimates and then clearing has been the best time ive had in this game. It takes time yes but what else do you have to do in ffxiv.
I wish I had the time Todo savages and ultimates like I love the game I love tanking but I can't really do any of the harder content because I don't have any time todo any content like this, the hardest fight that I have probably done is delubrum savage with black mage back in shadowbringers
I too wish I could have Crystaahl and Llamatodd in an Ultimate group. T.T
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Go to Todd’s streams!!
What I learned from this is don't get nervous about time crunches
Only way to do ERP is with an ultimate title, keep on moving forward
God I love the mateira ultimate raiding PF scene; deadass will get people with over 60 totems come in and give you a hand because they like the fight. Like personally I've got like.... 18 totems? I still enjoy helping nael prog groups because its so funny watching people panic over quotes first time theyre in there LOL. It's a lot smaller DC but it also means you run into regulars who'll just pop in and help. I also think they're just some of the most fun I've had in a game, especially if its UCOB and im on RDM instead of tank and just playing damage control: the job LMFAO. I think the most deaths I've had (excluding the scripted one going into golden) was like 30. UCOB CAN BE CURSED AS HELL AND YOU CAN STILL CLEAR 10/10 FIGHT. Before I got my clear I had 3 5% wipes on golden which was............a time. Also you dodged the exaflare because they move in half circle rotations; you UNKNOWINGLY managed to do what's required for a mid dodge, for a wall dodge because you didn't hesitate - if you hesitated that second explosion would have killed you; the idea for mid dodging is to dodge into the back half of an explosion coming down a lane parallel to you. You do be gaming Kou 😂
I want to do this ! No one will stop me
I'd love to try these, but I've learned that nothing removes fun from a game for me like a rigid schedule.
@Kenzaii
Жыл бұрын
i feel you 100%, pf old ultimates, they always active and super comfy in pf (with pf normal struggles ofc ofc) at your own pace, its doable, i did uwu in 4 days and tea in 7 :D good luck mate
I am proud of you, Kou! I haven't been on your streams recently, but I did hear about being double legend in a day. You deserve your clears, my dude! You are amazing for forging ahead despite all the roadblocks. Looking forward to you doing TEA and DSR in the future. I would gladly welcome you to the halls of Quad Legends then. XD - Chaddingway the Quad Legend Loporrit
Big grats on the clears and a lot of this resonates with me as well and was very well put, but a few more notes: in the difficulty ranking, you put TEA above UCoB. I STRONGLY disagree. As someone who was able to go from BJCC prog to clear in about 2 days of PF, I can say with much confidence TEA is very much a memorization/study fight. The first two phases are by far the hardest in terms of actual mechanical execution and reaction times, while all of phase 3 and 4 are entirely just recognize where to go and then do it according to the strat you’re using. In some points of the fight, especially phase 4, the windows of execution are so wide I would literally pull up the toolbox/diagrams on my phone to check and then do it in game and still made it in time. I think one of the biggest factors of why the community perception is generally TEA>UCoB in terms of difficulty is simply the lack of good/extensive guides and resources for TEA. Additionally, according to XIVcollect, a sizable amount more people have actually cleared tea than cleared UCoB. While this isn’t solely tied to difficulty (more people might’ve cleared tea since they liked the rewards or the fight more) it’s important to remember UCoB has also been in the game much longer and yet still has been cleared significantly less. UCoB is still a challenge no matter how many times you do it simply due to the random variation of every major mechanic, and presents a unique challenge completely absent from the other ults in Nael quotes. While I know that generally people use ahhh goofy 3rd party programs to just call them out, as a console player in PF that wasn’t an option for me and greatly added to the difficulty. Finally, UCoB has the best weapons and that’s on god 🙏
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s usually debated on whether TEA or UCOB is harder but for now I just settled upon the opinions of my raider friends but you could be right! Also you’re wrong and just a piss color enjoyer >:(
As a veteran raid leader from both wow and FF, doing ultimate is more about keeping your group from breaking up before the clear than anything else, emotional control and good leadership and relationship with the members is crucial, but with a demanding job and the burden of leadership I'm not going back to ultimate, specially since the rewards keep being only weapons and titles which you can at most with pld use 2 weapons and a title (triple legend) so yeah... Not worth it IMHO
@phen00
Жыл бұрын
imo WoW was way worse to raidlead in. managing 20 (25, really) people is way, way worse and cliques WILL form even in amazing guilds.
Imo consistent players is the biggest deciding factor whether you can stay long enough as a group for the clear or fall apart midways (or early ways?). A group of players starting to prog the fight but consistent enough to reach the prog point everytime will keep the morale high. But if you throw one inconsistent af player into the group, you will disband in less than a month. Ultimate is very punishing that if one player mess up, most of the time it's a wipe. Repeatedly failing on a mechanic that your group has cleared before feels bad, and you'll end up wasting time without any meaningful progress at all. That said, congratulations on the clear!
Love how your advice is completely different than how you got your clear.
skill 1000% matters but not in the context most would think. for the most part, when forming a group to prog you don't want to have a huge disparity in player skill. people aren't going to enjoy the experience if they are too far ahead or behind. so try to get people who are around the same level (or patient high level players) when scouting for players, logs matter but don't use funny numbers completely. look at who they may be playing with and ask their old raid mates how they vibe. you want to weed out any toxic players. it also helps to see how long they may be playing and what they may already be familiar with
I have both a miqote and a viera so I pretty much identity as a dominant bottom, don't know what you can do with that info but there you go, ggwp
UWU weapons are the best. It's the only one I clear until now. I'm saving up totems for the future weapons that will be added for the other jobs.
Love these stories. I'm a little baby who just got my first Extreme clear and vids like these from all kind of skill level players really encourage me to try harder content!
@Kenzaii
Жыл бұрын
ill be honest, was a casual player (still am) just leveling all my jobs, then endwalker dropped and i was dragged by a friend to jump into pf to clear and farm the first two extremes that came out at the time, i was super nervous, most difficult thing i did is like warrior of light on normal mode lol but i did it, it was a lot of fun, then couple of weeks later, the new savage tier came out, i decided to give it a go with friends, it went rly well, cleared first, then they disbanded, then cleared second in pf went on to uwu in pf cuz it was rly active, cleared it in 4 days, after that i realized how i was putting ultimates on a higher pedestal than it really is i got my tea clear in pf in only 7 days of raiding, trust me if i did it, u can do it :D
@uhuh.3356
Жыл бұрын
@@Kenzaii older ultimates are kind of a jokes since you only have to do mechanics and don't have to worry about DPS check so you can play giga safe. In patch one are harder as you have to play good in order to clear, TOP right now have a rough DPS check on some phases but will become a joke once dungeons gear in future patches come out. But ye ucob and uwu are very approachable for a more casual player and there's tons of recourses avaible to tell how to do your roles perfectly
@Thiccness_Is_Delicious
Жыл бұрын
So how's that going abandoned grass altogether yet?
I think you'll enjoy TEA!
@Kougaon
Жыл бұрын
I love robots Gundams and shit
Nice.
I never bothered with ultimates. I just do not consider the rewards worth the effort of learning all the mechs and so on.
Ultimates are for when ya wanna let the game crush your nards constantly. Also, from what I know, they are quite rarely added into the game so there being 2 during the 6.x updates is maybe a first. I dunno though someone can correct me.
I think DSR is pretty hard but other than that the others aren't too bad, still harder than savage tho and a huge accomplishment
Personally I became super burnt out on super high end raiding after completing Tomb of Sargers Mythic in WoW. And yea 100% the time commitment is by far the hardest part, even with only 8 people. Eventually I do want to get an UWU clear in to get a Stardust Rod Ultima for myself, but the challenge is finding a group of 7 people willing to prog with on a consistent basis. 🙁
2:28 Yo, you didn't have to it dirty like that with us PF players, SPECIALLY WHEN I'M LITERALLY RACLAW KENGI LOOKING FOR A TEAM THERE
Louis keeps getting shot, at least he's got echo
whoever PF only all 4 raids is really a Gigachad because with no call out that man has a brain IQ of 100, a plus 100 if he is on console (that means 0 addons)
Agreed, ult is a content for social, make friends and waste time together for funs, progressing with pubs is just a nightmare because u never find someting to discuss with and sharing feels.
@ElijahLotusShield
11 ай бұрын
I originally thought of joining a static for ultimate was for making friends too, after clearing 3 of the ultimate, I began to think of raid team more as coworkers instead of friends. We clear, but its not the same type of group dynamic I was expecting. It is what it is.