From what I gathered, watching BrotherMunro and Stealth17Gaming who have regularly put out videos on UAD, this wasn't the fault of the dev team. Apparently, Game Labs was bought up by another company a year or so ago. And it seems that part of that deal was that Game Labs had to release a title in 1st Quarter 2023. It seems that UAD was the title closest to a releaseable state, and despite the Dev Team telling them that more work was needed before the game would be ready for full release, the parent company overruled them and told them to put the game on full release on Steam - which was done with practically no warning. From what BrotherMunro reported, sifting thru the forums, Reddit, and social media, the dev team were as upset about this as the playerbase was. On top of that, the parent company has given the dev team six months to do any "final" updates and bug fixes - and that's it - nothing afterward. The game will be left to sink or swim on it's own.

@bigneto95

Жыл бұрын

Good insight, i didnt knew that, sad

@Galileus

Жыл бұрын

It's not like the dev team couldn't just refuse... If it's the same team as the guys behind Naval Action (and seeing complains about bans and censorship in Steam reviews - I think it is), I would not extend one iota of goodwill towards them. They ran NA to the ground besides warnings, complaints removed features and straight up lies. I'm pretty sure they showed first screenshots of this game when NA was still undercooked and badly in need of some love.

@jaywerner8415

Жыл бұрын

If that truly is the case then FUCK whoever that parent company is. UA:D has SO MUCH POTENTIONAL, but just like UA:AOS its going to be "under developed". I mean just LOOK at that footage, THAT IS AWFUL even by the bear standards.

@das_III

Жыл бұрын

@@Galileus not the same team

@ZackaryMusgrove

Жыл бұрын

Stillfront Group.

A shadow moves across the water in pursuit It splits the waves, commands the sea and defies the wind Instilling fear among its prey, feels nought for itself Ahead the sea lies calm awaiting the storm

@thattotalwarguy7911

Жыл бұрын

pride of a nation a beast made of steel..... wait wrong song

@weismax33

Жыл бұрын

Displace the water in its path, reveal the cannons Align the guns, unleash their wrath Unopposed under crimson skies Immortalised over time, their legend will rise And their foes can't believe their eyes, believe their size as they fall And the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all!

@timroddle3618

Жыл бұрын

Unopposed under crimson skies

@SirMarshalHaig

Жыл бұрын

@@thattotalwarguy7911 I had to think of that song as well.

UAD is a very interesting idea and fun to mess around in on occasion. Unfortunately the game is developed at an absolute slog to the point I genuinely don't care about any updates.

@Exodon2020

9 ай бұрын

I mean, the devs are from Ukraine so IMO they are excused for slow development - regardless of whether they made it out of the country or not.

Honestly, Arch, having seen the after-action reports and movement maps of naval battles like Guadalcanal, this is exactly what an organized naval battle looks like.

As buggy and unoptimized as it us, UAD does scratch an itch that few if any games around can. And I value scratching that itch very highly as a naval history and warship design nerd. Ive had it since the early days and it has come a damn long way. I really hope they dont fumble it at the finish line.

@chryssalidbait8765

Жыл бұрын

You might want to look into the games this game is based on: Rule the Waves and Rule the Waves 2

@frederiknielsen6038

Жыл бұрын

@@chryssalidbait8765 Probably best to wait for Rule the Waves 3

@reliantncc1864

Жыл бұрын

I've played it quite a bit, and it's reasonably fun. I like From the Depths better, because it allows far greater freedom and customization. You build not only the ships, but even the weapons themselves, and there are no limits. It's difficult to learn, to be sure, but well worth it.

@hastur-thekinginyellow8115

Жыл бұрын

Three words for you. Well, three words and one number. Rule the Waves 2.

@imapopo2924

Жыл бұрын

@@reliantncc1864 Ive played a lot of FTD and its great, but its got a hell of a learning curve and historical styled warships tend to do poorly against against most designs in my experience. That and I suck at making things work efficiently.

If you want a similar style game I’d nominate Rule The Waves. It’s far less graphically nice and the ability to customize the ships themselves is somewhat lighter but the campaign, individual battles, diplomacy, and management go far more in depth then UAD. The latest version is RTW2, which also includes aviation and carriers and the upcoming rule the waves 3 will include early anti ship missiles in the late game.

@jaywerner8415

Жыл бұрын

And Rule the Waves 3 should be releasing on steam later this year.

@commisaryarreck3974

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't RTW2 already have missiles? I swear i remember those early techs I never really play into late game since i despise the air

@operkoi8954

Жыл бұрын

@@commisaryarreck3974 maybe air launched missiles are in 2 for late game aircraft but 3 is going to have ship to ship missiles

@elysiankentarchy1531

Жыл бұрын

I do enjoy RTW2, even if I do not really play late game (and turn on the delay air option) because I am not fond of air combat, I have had good moments with my fleets. It is also a game that makes you think and consider the navy you have now, the navy you could have in about two years, and the navy you want to have. Sure, you could order a new line of battleships but will new technology in the time they take to build make them suboptimal? Such as building coal powered ships and oil engines get unlocked. Can your budget afford to lay down three or more BB/BC hulls or will you have to make one offs? You have a bunch of old destroyers laying around, scrap them or keep them around for trade protection so your top of the line destroyers can fight in the fleet? Who can you afford to provoke and who should you stay away from antagonizing? You basically have to find something you are satisfied with, it may not be your ideal navy full of ships with top of the line specs but good enough is good enough.

@cedo3333

Жыл бұрын

Seriously, i'm a big fan of RTW but this game is next level with... graphics!!! Sure this game has some flaws some more or less important but still not a perfect game. But according to my taste? oh boy i don't think somebody will do better in the decade.

If a game needs a "roadmap," it wasn't ready for release.

I've been waiting so long for this to come out of early access to scratch the battleship fleet combat itch..... Guess I'm gonna have to wait a little longer

I've had my eye on this game for awhile, specifically because of it's resemblance to an older game I played in my youth called PTO IV, I don't presently have access to it, but if you are willing to tinker with emulation, it could be worth looking at

Arch I got this game in early access after watching your first video on it and yes it’s been years I have fun every once in awhile but mostly I have fun building over the actual combat which is sad

@nealpark1890

Жыл бұрын

No shade mind you I love your content just letting you know your not the only one that feels a little let down and ultimate general civil war on mobile is just as stupid in reinforcements as on pc

This is one of those games that I will be horrible at because I just want nothing but a small number of battleships which I assume will die easy to a proper fleet formation, especially with the torps. I just love the visuals of a nigh impervious behemoth bouncing shots off its hull as its monstrous cannons blast massive holes in the enemy. Funny enough in it's current state with the fleet command issues you've raised, controlling say 3 ships as individuals might be a better experience if it's viable.

@ElGreco15

Жыл бұрын

Ditto. All I want is a super ship with silly guns sinking a fleet

@rpscorp9457

Жыл бұрын

@@ElGreco15 thats not this game:) The AI for the major powers does a good job at keeping up with the player.

@ElGreco15

Жыл бұрын

@@rpscorp9457 not a bad thing at least

Games Labs... always does this. Great in the sprint, falters in the marathon.

Still going through the video. But so far this is reminding me of how War Thunder was in "Early Access" for years before finally releasing. And when it did release it had been a full fledge game with its own community for quite a while. And when it did release the community & its (the game) best days had been behind it. As handy Early Access can be for developers. Its also a bad sign for a video game has remained in early access for some years.

Arch doesn't understand the historical accuracy of UAD. The ship formations are accurate. He just hasn't yet realized that they're all simulating the masterful command skills of Beatty.

I would of loved if Ultimate Admiral Dreadnought and Rule the Waves had child. With this game's ship designer and battles while the Campaign and Political and fleet making.

You can just solve the formation issue by making all the ships a single entity where all the pieces hold the speed of the slowest moving unit and even if they by some magic way get too close than they need to be rubber band them into place, it will look goofy but it will work

**Lead ship is hit** 2nd ship: MEDIOCRE! *rams it*

I do love this game, i have had it for years. There has been stiff debate about opening it up to steam workshop to allow modders to finish the game (as bad as that sounds). I do wish they allowed us to make carriers and make our own navel planes etc. Allowing us to be a fucking admiral qnd run our navy the way we would want to. Be that light aircraft spam with big fuck off torpedoes to derp the enemy fleet into the sea. Just the developers have no seeming intention to actually do that. Weirdly i was playing the game at the time of this release and enjoying myself too. Its not a bad game. It still needs work.

@rpscorp9457

Жыл бұрын

modders are now the *only* hope.

I know my expectations were too high But god damn UAD is the closest I have to a 3D Rule The Waves

I bought the game as soon as you showed it to me years ago been playing it on and off ever since. I really hope they stick The landing. A lot can still happen in six months.

Damn two years back this game looked like it had so much potential I had planned to buy it when I bought my house well time didn't go as planned and I forgotten about it to hear this is very sad

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

Hope you got the house though

@bigjay875

Жыл бұрын

@@stillcantbesilencedevennow funny your timing is. I'm doing the paperwork to buy today 😊 soon I will be able to put my computer back together after 3 years 👍

As much fun as I have with this game, I'm sad/overjoyed that it can be won handily by over armoring your ships and loading them with picric acid so that EVERYTHING burns.

I never knew dreadnaught era naval battles were basically just moshpits - according to this game anyways.

@killman369547

11 ай бұрын

Well the more appropriate term is "organized chaos" but... yeah close enough. Especially if weather is poor and/or a few key people in command have decided to take leave of all their senses, and intelligence. Then yeah it can devolve into a naval version of a call of duty team deathmatch IRL fairly quickly. If you look into the early days of the US pacific campaign you'll see some examples of this.

Unfortunately, GameLabs has a pattern of "Mysteriously Undercooked" games. I love Naval Action, but it never really explored its potentials very well. Even though the sailing battles were beautiful, various idiosyncrasies and design decisions in gunnery, ballistics, and RvR went unaddressed or took a direction that never made sense.

I really loved the game, really disappointing it was released as soon as it was. I absolutely love this period and setting so it is good for me, but I am having a hard time to recommend it to anyone outside the period. The campaigns are just inexcusably buggy, and I don't have the highest hope it will actually be completed with how it was released. At the very least with 450 hours I got my money's worth.

@bewawolf19

Жыл бұрын

Also Arch, always disable ship avoidance! It is one of the major causes of ships pathing horribly. That's always the first thing to do in every battle.

@ZackaryMusgrove

Жыл бұрын

Stillfront Group is to blame. They bought them and forced them to release.

14:37 That's kind of the point. You're the leader of your navy, not the local commander or a politician. You don't control what's above you or below you directly, you just influence it. Or at least that's the idea. Of course the actual battles kind of speaks against that... To anyone watching check out some of the KZreadrs doing campaigns with this game, you'll see both the good and the bad. And they learn to work with the formation system to some degree.

It's not undercooked. They used the wrong recipe. Would have benifited from more hull options rather than just picking a hull. Let me change bow shape, the belt angle. I was promised more customization on their store page.

@mlg_teletubby9391

Жыл бұрын

yes, their youtube ads still show you slotting in hull sections to design hull and armor layout

Arch, you are culpable for making me buy this with your old video ! Still had my fun with it.

Finally a review, and a straightforward one!

The second forward turret stuck up on the barbet on the Iwakamyu for no apparent reason bugs me :)).

Thanks for the sad sad warning. I was looking forward to that game. :(

I messed up and didn’t look for reviews like this first. It was on sale and did an impulse buy, not worth it even on sale. I just watched my 4 battleships with 60 16-inch guns total fire HUNDREDS of rounds against 2 AI controlled battleships who only had 3% higher accuracy destroy only land 1 shot. The AI slowly took my fleet apart, very bad balance and the stats mean nothing.

I understand the frustration. I've been waiting for this game to be finished so I can play it for my own channel, but it never seems to happen.

Lol last time I played this game I just took direct command of my heaviest ships and charged to knife fight range while putting the rest of the fleet on auto with torpedoes set to fire at max aggression to distract the enemy. That's how I clapped out Japan's navy as China in 3 battles straight out of 1890.

I hate saying it, but the early version of the game ran much smoother than the current. The campaign expansion just simply failed and clearly wasn't ready for the massive launch they tried. They should have stuck with smaller updates and corrections to really pad out the game play. THEN tried reaching for mass world expansion.

"Don't purchase this game right now" Me who purchased the game as soon as I could on release: "Shit..."

How in God's name do they not have historically accurate fleets as a default? Why doesn't it have actual ship classes?

A great game in development hell

Ultimate general: civil war is one of the best tectical games. I cant posible imagene playng it if I culd not controll the units. Its customization to forge a unit for a speciffic task is just amazing. Trevlig helg det var en skoj video. "loose formation"

I miss manual rudder of beta. In campaign big battles I used to make escorts do donuts away from battle area and just massacre enemy fleet with Battleships.

i wa s looking for something new and refreshing, i'l keep an eye on this one!

naval action went free 2 play now, so may be worth a play for everyone

you should have reviewed the actual full release patch, would have been painful but also funny. as the game had a major bug lagging even super computers evry time you selected a ship wilh more than one cannon.

Arch, they got also a new Ultimate General in the works, not just the rehash of the Naval Action under the name of Sea Legends. Which the last I checked, switches from SP simulation aspect back to NA... again... Which is saddening as NA people are not to be trusted.

they're going to do the same thing to this that they did to the age of sail game. fix some bugs, do some balance changes and then move on to something else. I'd have loved seeing a big dlc for the age of sail that sets the game in the 1600s europe

It's RAW put it back in the oven, raw RAAAW!

You do realize that if they had carriers in a game and this game was realistic it would just turn into carrier spam if this game is anything like realistic

Rule The Waves 2 is the same game without the 3d graphics and it is far deeper in its simulation.

I bought this game a while ago. I can sink hours in the scenarios. Wish the development was a bit more steady, though.

10 seconds into the first battle, and one of Arch's destroyers rear-ends another :P And here I was, getting all of my Pacific 2nd Squadron and Kamchatka jokes ready for a naval war between Japan and Russia, but it seems the Japanese are the clowns in this timeline.

16:00 - Also, Soviet Union in 1905. :V

I can only handle so many rolled Rs, dude

watching this video makes me think you are sir Hammerlock in Borderlands that is frustated because of those claptrap(ship) ahahahahah lol

Sad the game is not in a good playable state as I was interested in playing it.

noticed when you had a problem with the ships ai you had the avoid on for the ships that what causes it and is problem coseing all the ramming i almost never see my ships ram unless i want it to or a enemy dose it will also take the control of the ship away making them slower or forcing a turn its just better to manage it yourself

well what do you know, i'm playing this right now. God i wish this was better. hopefully Rule the Waves 3 will be better. The only reason they said they are stopping at the 70s is because they don't know how a reactor cooking off will do.

Have you tried PVP yet or is that not implemented

I purchased the game at a discount, I think it was money well spent, but there are things that can be annoying. Example - gui doing funny stuff. If the devs keep development in the future it can be a masterpiece.

Why did you mention the Empire total war naval system? It took me a while to recover from that shit

I would like to counter your point about aircraft carriers. The reason why they aren’t in the game is because they’d be unbelievably broken.

Maybe the moders can save it?

A shame the game has such issues :( the engament at the end reminds me of a typical world of warship game xD Maybe the devs played that and figured 'yes. This is historically accurate!'

15:00 Arch discussing the possibility of engaging in cancel culture.

It should have had multi-player

atleast the game "from my point " looks more complete than Osiris New Dawn

Pity. If this game had similar gameplay to Battlefleet Gothic, it would be decent.

Yeah I saw the reviews and passed on this because the concept looks great but unfocused. A single player campaign with a single Dreadnaught that you can replace of upgrade would've been a lot better.

Are they expecting the community to fix their game by modding it to death? Bethesda style ... UAD got released out of nowhere. At least it should still be in development for 1 year more. Fix all the bugs and make the campaign at least on ok level.

@vishnu79

Жыл бұрын

No, the developer of UAD, Game Labs, got bought last year by a bigger corp, and the new parent company told the dev team to release it. When the dev team protested, the parent company told them to release it anyway, or else. BrotherMunro did a video on this situation a little while back.

Well, I already purchased it back in the beta times years ago... Really hope they don't just pull a Medieval Engineers and shove it out and stop working on it.

I play the game as a ship designer first and just bum around the custom battles. Never once touched the Campaign, it looked way too overwhelming to me. It makes me giddy designing a brand new ship and have it obliterate the equivalent A.I design.

I don't *observe* people being banned for criticizing the game necessarily, even relatively harsh criticism. When the vitriol in a criticism exceeds the constructive feedback the thread gets locked. Also note that the dev team with the exception of the lead developer lives in Ukraine. That being said the things that this game would need to make it a great game will for the most part not be present even 1 year from now. I am hoping over the next 6 months the game is relatively stable and I can continue to release mods that polish up the soft-coded elements to make what gameplay exists as enjoyable as possible.

@thunderousavenger2382

Жыл бұрын

Ah that would make you the chad who is responsible for the balance mod that makes the game actually ever so slightly playable and enjoyable to me. Lemme say thanks rq. I dont have a forum account to do that zzz

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It will be worth it once someone adds anime girls into it.

Games labs keeps starting these naval games, half implement the ideas they have then abandon them unfinished, just look at naval action that is now abandoned and f2p and they are making a single player version now

Is it possible they ran out of money ? Since the game has the potential of being too complex for a small team ? What is mildly hopeful is that there are already mods for it.

I'm going to get on there and make a woke fleet of ships where every ship consists of nothing more than a hull and life boats stacked to the sky!

The game is at points good and in many points not, that said its unique and worth a buy as such...

Another Dev living off early access with a slow updates and a half finished game ,this is the so common it's made me highly suspicious of early access

Fairly sure that UI was based on Tales of Maj'Eyal's irritating UI.

newly released game. support for 6 months. Yeah, that's a red flag.

Shame, was hoping this would be good

That Age of Sail game has been slowly turning into "Naval Action 2" shifting to multiplayer rather then single-player. Also they are developing "Ultimate General: American Revolution" Remember Gamelabs are owned by Stillfront, a mobile "game" publisher with a reputation worse then EA. Singleplayer, deep strategy games don't make shareholders happy.

oof

Arch, it is a little hard to understand as you use non standard measurements throughout. Especially on the guns.

I bought this game back in the wintersale... and within half an hour returned it. Primarily due to how terrible the interface was. Like how come devs consistently make terrible unintuitive and worst visually unappealing interfaces? Having to understand what which screen is trying to tell me is one thing, but does it then also have to make my eyes bleed?

The biggest sin of gamelabs is the fact they're founded by modders, but seem to hate putting in the function to mod their fucking games.

None of these ships had cute anime girl voices.

ok you have linked all these games the devs have done together into a coherent series of F you we have your money

Yah, cant agree more. Its a mess...pity.

Honestly, if the developer is banning criticism of the game in any way, shape, or form, then there is no reason to give money to a developer that hates you. Simple as. Especially if said criticism is meant to be constructive or helpful. This game has many great ideas but is mediocre to just downright worse than the Beta. Almost to the point of being bad In fact. This was my first Games Labs game and it'll also be my last.

first?

Why is it called "Dreadnaughts?" some are clearly Super Dreadnaughts, and some are even Super Duper Hyper Mega Ultra Dreadnaughts dood.

I'd have to agree. I've been trying to enjoy this game, but it certainly feels unfinished. It also has a very steep learning curve and honestly the naval academy tutorials don't help a whole lot.

Wasn't this game development afected by the war in ucraine?

@mlg_teletubby9391

Жыл бұрын

This and this war of mine, but its basically being used as an excuse to deflect criticism. They still constantly add new features and dev updates, but dont go back to fix any of the half broken features and bugs they added previously. So instead of fixing campaign issues, they add submarines and mines, which noone really wanted and arent propperly implemented, then move on to adding the next set of features like land war, which as seen in the video are equally half baked

The roadmap wasnt very reassuring. Best thing they could do now is release the modding tools. EDIT: the latest updates have made it 1000% unplayable.

Out of the oven too early, half baked. Devs banning criticism. The sheer level of virtue signaling by shills. Yeah, I've seen this before.

1 year down, and the torpedos are still crap and have to swarm the entire map just to have a few torpedos, ones that "might" not be duds anyway..... even with the newest update released..... its still grabage when the AI gets the insane amount of torpedo detection, even with electric..... stupid.....

Oh no, this was disapointing

Always sad to see a game that you been waiting for coming out as a mess. Looks like they need to hire more or replace old people in charge of AI script.

A shame gamelabs had to / let themselves be bought out by a worthless shovelware company thats known to pump out trash mobile cashgrab "games" Just another once promising failure. Like so many others out there. The fact that i have to use cheat engine to bypass a beyond flawed political system and an additional third party trainer mod to get some enjoyment out of this game shows how much it turned for the worse over time. Too many "features" that are far more of a hindrance and annoyance to the gameplay. For anyone wanting to know how, the trainer can be found on wemod. For cheat engine, iirc the political relation values can be found via the float value.