UBC 2023 Final - DAY 3

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Backgammongalaxy.com presents: The Ultimate Backgammon Championship 2023 Final: Grandmaster Sander Lylloff (UBC Champion, Denmark) versus Super-Grandmaster Masayuki "Mochy" Mochizuki (Contender, Japan).
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The final is decided via twelve 7-point matches, where the players get 1 point for a win and 1 point for a "PR Win" (the player with the lowest error rate according to eXtreme Gammon XG++ analysis). The first player to achieve 13 points wins the championship title.
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Пікірлер: 74

  • @SurfSkateAdventures
    @SurfSkateAdventures6 ай бұрын

    Backgammon is such a great game. The doubles, gestures of moves, the dramas and flips. Games can be long or short. With both luck and strategy, it's just so much fun.

  • @MrQmason

    @MrQmason

    6 ай бұрын

    Indeed...... Chess and Backgammon.... and nice glass of iced tea :)

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    5 ай бұрын

    We couldn't agree more ❤

  • @billyvonbimble7902
    @billyvonbimble79026 ай бұрын

    Thank you for screening this final live. What an experience to see two of the greatest Backagammon minds pitted against each other. Banana Splits Baby x

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45666 ай бұрын

    What a thoroughly enjoyable few days - thanks to all the hard work behind the scenes. Much love to all involved ! 👋❤👋❤👋❤

  • @jeanwilliams7456
    @jeanwilliams74566 ай бұрын

    Congrats to Masayuki Mochizuki! What an unbelievable player. Thanks to BG and the commentators. Great job on the streaming.

  • @cuijin
    @cuijin6 ай бұрын

    I'm grateful to all the people who made this possible, but I also want to point out that this year's UBC Final had the least quality and professionalism of all the UBC events. The venue was really bad (compare it to Mochy vs Hideaki, for example), there was a microphone stand blocking the view of the players, there was a lot of background noise, there was this PR problem, the commentators had to whisper because they didn't have a proper space to work... and the list goes on. It's like all was improvised, with last-minute solutions to the challenges of an event of this size and importance. I hope that next year they are more careful with the venue and the organization. Backgammon Galaxy has established itself as the leading backgammon institution in the world, and the quality of their events is always very high, so it's sad to see that this year they were way below their own standards. Having said that, it's a privilege to watch these two monsters facing each other, even if the event was poorly organized.

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45666 ай бұрын

    This championship has seen 4 (yeah, FOUR!) consecutive matches with a score of 7-0!😱

  • @yawn8974
    @yawn89746 ай бұрын

    Thank you all so much! This was a fantastic production, I wish it wasn't over already

  • @denisivanov6106
    @denisivanov61064 ай бұрын

    Mark is absolutely right to call Mochy the god of backgammon. I just admire his ability to calculate the right move at machine level. Could you, please, ask him to make a video on backgammon mathematics. Im a beginner and i just try to memorise positions, but it seems he counts, calculates. Anyway, absolutely amazing!

  • @GrafSchraube
    @GrafSchraube6 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed the three gamedays a lot, both of them played very well. Also a big shout out to the organisation, the streams and comentatior were great. I´m looking forward to next year. Happy christmas everybody!

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45666 ай бұрын

    NGL - I really WANT that beautiful championship cube awarded to the winner - Kudos Mochy!

  • @jabbahutt3697
    @jabbahutt36976 ай бұрын

    It was really interesting to see the evolution of the games during these days (honestly at the beginning I thought Sander would win). I've been playing backgammon for a short time now, and I tend to be very conservative with my moves. Watching both players risk moves that I would not risk at all was very instructive for my own way of playing. If you don't risk, you don't win. Thanks for such great games! And thanks to those who organized everything, very good job!

  • @davidd.7410

    @davidd.7410

    6 ай бұрын

    I used to face the same challenges when I started playing the game. Sometimes, the best move is the agressive one even though it looks like a risky move.

  • @Bikerz_rule
    @Bikerz_rule6 ай бұрын

    Interesting venue with all the toy figures on display. Many congrats to Mochy

  • @quandaryisme
    @quandaryisme6 ай бұрын

    Congrats! Great matches

  • @eddieballgame
    @eddieballgame6 ай бұрын

    Congratulations to Masayuki Mochizuki for a well deserved victory. Sad that this prestigious event did not warrant a more worthy setting.

  • @timsullivan4566

    @timsullivan4566

    6 ай бұрын

    Well, have you ever tried renting a high-end venue in Scandinavia? ($$$ !) 😉

  • @eddieballgame

    @eddieballgame

    6 ай бұрын

    @@timsullivan4566 Who said anything about a high-end venue?

  • @MD-qt1of
    @MD-qt1of5 ай бұрын

    At the end of the day, its all about winning. Perhaps a consideration can be made that per match there are three points up for grabs. Two points for winning, and one point for lowest PR. There's something strange knowing that you could lose every single game, and still be the world champion by always having the lower PR.

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    5 ай бұрын

    The game of backgammon is both skill and luck, therefore it makes most sense to have 1 point for win and 1 point for PR win. You can argue that it's equally as strange for a player to win even though he played worse than his opponent.

  • @MD-qt1of

    @MD-qt1of

    5 ай бұрын

    @@BackgammonGalaxy Thanks for responding! I don't think your scenario is strange to the human mind, which are the people playing and watching, as like you said, luck is an accepted factor of the game. Having equal emphasis on PR and winning ultimately makes the game about playing "right", but it's a human playing against a human, not against a computer, and there's other factors too like the opponents play style, their skill level, emotion, the swing of the match, time left on the clock etc that a computer will never understand. They are trying to win against a fellow human, not a computer, and I think this should be taken into account. Otherwise it quickly becomes not about winning against a human, but about winning against an invisible bot. Who cares at that stage who the opponent is? Just the fact that the PR can change depending on the analysis level proves this further. Can a human really see x number of moves ahead with so many dice roll options? How many moves ahead is the most "humane"? This is just my opinion and obviously I don't know best, but it wasn't a very fun watch near the end knowing that winning x number of games isn't enough. Let's not forget at its core it's all about winning, and that's how the majority of the world will always play. Imagine it is a boxing match. Technically a computer in the future can analyse the exact moment every dodge, every punch, every step is made, and whether it was optimal or not, but who cares if the opponent is knocked out :) PR is a great touch for sure, and adds a further layer, but you are already playing so many matches, and isn't the whole point of that to eliminate luck? Can I really get lucky enough to beat Mochy in a 3 day marathon?! I genuinely believe as an intermediate level player that a 2 to 1 skew towards winning will increase the excitement of the matches and make it more real. That way you can't win a tournament by winning no games, but it will factor in for enough luck (and keep in mind it's a 3 day marathon!) that no human can surely feel hard done by. I think this would be interesting to discuss perhaps in a video. Please keep this as human v human, and not human v bot.

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    5 ай бұрын

    It's about winning and it will always be about winning, not matter what the structure is.Both players do what they can to maximise their winning chances by trying to win both the match and the PR. There's a nice saying: "You don't play against your opponent. You play against yourself". The game is about making the best possible move to maximise your winning chances - and this becomes even more apparent in our UBC tournament. Humans have always strived to be the best they can ever be, and so when we actually know what the best possible moves are, of course we strive to make them. When you think about it, it's not playing against an invisible bot, it's playing against yourself and your ability to do all the necessary calculations at the right time. It's also about not letting your opponent or surroundings distract you and cause you to miscalculate. And it's about your body and mind being in balance so you can perform 100%. So in conclusion, we do not agree with you at all that the UBC format is a play against an invisible bot. @@MD-qt1of

  • @davidd.7410
    @davidd.74106 ай бұрын

    Congrats to Mochy ! What a come back after an aweful Day 1. He's trully a champion. So is Sander who played great as well. One suggestion for next year if you don't mind : you guys should interview the players after each day rather than BEFORE the decisive games. Anyway, thanks for sharing these games live, it was super awesome.

  • @markbrown6187

    @markbrown6187

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the spoiler David 👎🏻

  • @mackenzieusher8025

    @mackenzieusher8025

    6 ай бұрын

    @@markbrown6187 Don't read KZread comments before watching.

  • @markbrown6187

    @markbrown6187

    6 ай бұрын

    Yours was the one underneath the video.

  • @mackenzieusher8025

    @mackenzieusher8025

    6 ай бұрын

    @@markbrown6187 I'm not the OP, but I understand.

  • @lamestreammedia0
    @lamestreammedia06 ай бұрын

    Come on, Starbucks - where's the "Mochy Matcha Latte" to celebrate this prestigious win?

  • @gigigoyette1333
    @gigigoyette13336 ай бұрын

    Would have loved to hear the final comments from the players instead of talking…although i love your commentary. Justin was awesome also…thanks guys and Mate for transcribing.

  • @MrQmason
    @MrQmason6 ай бұрын

    Awesome Backgammon board !!!!

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45666 ай бұрын

    I understand the reason WHY Justin isn't continuously laughing at his own jokes, But without actually HEARING his laugh... ...🤔I still can't be SURE that it's him commentating!

  • @JustinNowellPlaysBG

    @JustinNowellPlaysBG

    6 ай бұрын

    I died reading this! Hahahahahahahaha

  • @timsullivan4566

    @timsullivan4566

    6 ай бұрын

    @@JustinNowellPlaysBG Thanks for the reply (although, tbh, I was pretty sure that the only thing likely to get a laugh from you OTHER THAN your own jokes... would be a joke ABOUT you laughing at your own jokes. 😆😉

  • @thomasrebelo2189
    @thomasrebelo21896 ай бұрын

    Mochy is the unflappable champion. Sounds like Sandor went on a bender last night. Is he treating this like a joke. The early lead put him off guard.

  • @predator8320ify
    @predator8320ify6 ай бұрын

    unfortunately I couldn't come I was very close only 230 km from Copenhagen but I'm very happy for you Mochy

  • @mohammadyazdani3190
    @mohammadyazdani31906 ай бұрын

    hi who can help me about the program for live stream like this video i can't find how to open XG on the OBS thanks a lot

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    6 ай бұрын

    We have made this stream template manually.

  • @predator8320ify
    @predator8320ify6 ай бұрын

    Mochu You are number one in the world you are the KING of backgammon ❤

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45666 ай бұрын

    Was it that Sander needed less beer...? (🤔...or MORE beer?)

  • @111111TURBO
    @111111TURBO6 ай бұрын

    God Of Backgammon MOCHY

  • @illichniko4628
    @illichniko46286 ай бұрын

    Hello! Please give the postal address of the Backgammon store in Copenhagen

  • @itsmejp75
    @itsmejp756 ай бұрын

    Was their prize money? or just the title and trophy cube?

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    6 ай бұрын

    Trophy and title.

  • @dumduma
    @dumduma6 ай бұрын

    ♥️

  • @msudlp
    @msudlp6 ай бұрын

    Who did interview after contest was over?

  • @neilwaldock6272

    @neilwaldock6272

    6 ай бұрын

    She doesn't know much about bg, calling matches games.

  • @hrrld
    @hrrld6 ай бұрын

    In 200 years these matches will be re-analyzed with better neural net weights and the outcome could definitely be different. Win/Lose matters not that much --- The truly great thing here is the competition between two of the best we know in the game. So beautiful and fun. Long live Sander, Mochi, and the UBC (!) Thank you to everyone involved.

  • @hrrld

    @hrrld

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Joa8n there are comparisons of the various engines around. XG on three ply is already very very hard to beat. I don’t hate pr, I just want to see error bars on the equity estimates. If a pr point is decided by ~0.1 after ++ analysis, then how confident are we in that determination? 😀

  • @AlexRobin78
    @AlexRobin785 ай бұрын

    When does the match start?

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    5 ай бұрын

    What do you mean? :-)

  • @AlexRobin78

    @AlexRobin78

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@BackgammonGalaxyI just don't want to have the match spoiled ❤

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    5 ай бұрын

    Match 9 starts at 00:25:04@@AlexRobin78

  • @aloysbahos5754
    @aloysbahos57545 ай бұрын

    2:27:50

  • @rbpompeu1
    @rbpompeu16 ай бұрын

    "Cashew" Void board!

  • @BackgammonGalaxy

    @BackgammonGalaxy

    6 ай бұрын

    Cassio

  • @jeroenkoster8350
    @jeroenkoster83506 ай бұрын

    I will train a young bright spark for free, no self promo on how good your app or your status is

  • @aliefradilbaz
    @aliefradilbaz6 ай бұрын

    Why do you guys always root for Mochy?

  • @jimbosaul3996

    @jimbosaul3996

    6 ай бұрын

    b/c es the absolute best. a beast. he's as good as the machine every single move @!! its astonishing ! he's the only Super Grandmaster. so why NOT support him ????

  • @aliefradilbaz

    @aliefradilbaz

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jimbosaul3996 You are a beast as long as dice allow you to be. I am not denying the knowledge of the game is necessary, but you are a beast with favorable dice.

  • @jimbosaul3996

    @jimbosaul3996

    6 ай бұрын

    @@aliefradilbaz NO ! he's a beast not for getting lucky dice. anyone can get lucky dice. or not !@ he's a beast b/c of his A1 near perfect analysis. Every. Single. Time @! didn't you notice he picks the exact top 2 computer moves every time?? he knows the exact top move instantly. tries out and looks at the 2nd move first, only to see if it makes sense, then reverts to the computers first pick & plays that. nearly every time. its amazing ! thats why hes the only Super Grandmaster. and...... a BEAST !

  • @mackenzieusher8025

    @mackenzieusher8025

    6 ай бұрын

    How was Marc rooting for Mochy? He sounded downright disappointed when Sander lost.

  • @thamiosmgtow3678

    @thamiosmgtow3678

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@aliefradilbaz based 3rd world opinion.

  • @joebazooks
    @joebazooks6 ай бұрын

    i played mochy in a match online back in the day. had a better PR than him but lost one game and thus the match even tho i outrolled him that game cuz i got super nervous playing in front of a bunch of spectators xD that was years and years ago so i know mochys been playing to PR since at least then which explains his much better PR rating. no clue how other top players make so many mistakes, even slight mistakes, so often :/ mochy is top notch tho

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45666 ай бұрын

    If there were serious $$ at stake, there's no way players would be within visual or aural range of the transcriber (who, BTW, has done an outstanding job!)

  • @gorkemguney5046
    @gorkemguney50465 ай бұрын

    Danimarkalı oyuncu çok yanlış oynuyor mochy afetmez

  • @user-yk4hb4ix6r
    @user-yk4hb4ix6r6 ай бұрын

    Moves ten times pipes before take a choise of right(hello mochy) way is very toxic

  • @jimbosaul3996

    @jimbosaul3996

    6 ай бұрын

    perhaps if you did, you might be a good player ! doubt mochi will listen to your dribble !

  • @user-yk4hb4ix6r

    @user-yk4hb4ix6r

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jimbosaul3996 thanks)) if i not a player in all, its seems similar anyway)) u will move you pips in might,like chessmasters do,if you dont want looks toxic,

  • @jimbosaul3996

    @jimbosaul3996

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-yk4hb4ix6rperhaps backgammon isn't for you. stick to chess. if you want to play BG like a grandmaster, you play the way Mochi does. obviously

  • @user-yk4hb4ix6r

    @user-yk4hb4ix6r

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jimbosaul3996 look on Sanders face,when he wait 4 this "big desicions",))And your thinkink about my players guality -its so funny,but it wrong point of discussion))

  • @thamiosmgtow3678

    @thamiosmgtow3678

    6 ай бұрын

    Oh, such a strong take about someone a TOXIC lmfao... I am breathing! Seems toxic. gtfoh

  • @gadabautwoczkij2066
    @gadabautwoczkij20666 ай бұрын

    Hehehe, if anyone would want to start play , after watching this, will only laugh. WTF is this venue, WTF is the main prize. It looks like a village meeting. And the interviews at the end - amatures

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