As a machinist that has CNC machines to make complex parts of high tolerances, this gives me a whole new respect for the old school machinists

@TomokosEnterprize

3 ай бұрын

I am one of the old machinists that ran these big analog boring mills. A Berthiez Vertical boring mill with a 12 foot table. Cooper Bessemer in Stratford Ontario Canada in the late 70's.We made Natural gas pipeline compressors and Ships engines. It was a great sight to take in with a 40 ton steel casting on the table at 6 to 8 rpm. Some internal bores had ground features. Stick mics for most pieces . For the 14 foot diffuser stainless piece a vernier tape was used. Measured 3 times buy two machinists had to be done to insure a correct size/OD. I was 18 and was hired right from a Machinist School. I have sooooo many wonderful memories from those days.

I've been a fitter / machinist in Australia for 45 years. I have machined parts both large and small, even spent 7years as a civlian weapons fitter for the Australiian Navy. By chance I scored an close up tour inside the forward turret of USS Missouri (BB-63) when it visted Sydney during the mid 1986. Always had a facination for the production of naval guns. Thank for this footage.

@robdodson8625

Жыл бұрын

That would of been great to look at the big guns.

@user-bq1xz5dt3f

3 ай бұрын

❤1

@badcommentbot8349

Ай бұрын

Lmao Liar

U.S. at its finest. Amazing effort and quality.

So glad I came upon this video. It brought back happy memories of working with a man who worked at this facility back in I believe the mid 1930’s. He was in the navy at the time and went on to become a welder for the government working at the Washington Zoo. He retired and shortly after got a part time job where did welding where I worked in the 1970’s. I learned many things about all types of metal forming and welding from him as I was only in my early 20’s. After he left that workplace I visited him at his home several times and in the later 70’s I went by and his wife informed me he had passed away. He will always be a person I respected not just as a short time coworker but as a friend. Cary

I agree with Kenneth, the next comment. I’m 77 and in school I was good at math, algebra but beyond that forget it. I was not going to college cause I enjoyed working, grew up on the farm and worked several jobs till I fell into the machine shop through the back door. It’s a long story but I had a tool/die maker for a boss, he took interest in me because he said I was one of the first young person that really showed an interest in learning. That company closed to move to Singapore, thanks to the government. As I moved on to other shop jobs I kept trying to improve myself when most of the people around me just wanted to make it to pay day. The last 2 companies I worked for I was the go to man for quick, correct parts. I ran almost all the different machine’s that was needed to take raw materials and make the parts needed. I enjoyed this more than a production machine. So much of the shop now is CNC and automatically run, the person is just an operator. Enjoyed watching guys run machines mostly larger than I had.

@richardcranium5839

3 жыл бұрын

to be a good machinist in the pre cnc days was a real talent. every machine has its own personality. one - off parts was a true test of a machinists ability

@donsurlylyte

2 жыл бұрын

dont blame the govt for that, it is capitalism in action- when there is an option for cheaper production, the bosses always take it. totally agree about the shame it is.

@andrewvida3829

2 жыл бұрын

@@donsurlylyte No, it's the people of government - Gene was 100% correct in his assignment of blame. Nothing can be blamed on "capitalism" in the same way that the man who murders his neighbor with a hammer is to blame, and not the hammed because it is only a tool.

@andrewvida3829

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Gene - My father was an instrument maker and one of a very few who made gyroscopes for the Norden bomb sights. I went to school for mechanical engineering and will attest to the truth of what you assert about CNC. I learned on analog machines and have no interest in working in a CNC environment precisely because all you really are is an operator and a programmer. I spent 30 years as a systems engineer and software, while very useful, is boring as all hell to develop. Twiddling bits is really not so much fun. In 1996 I took a few months off from my consulting work and went to work for my girlfriend's father who had a job shop in Joizey. I worked for no pay. Every day I came home stinking like the Mongol horde, burnt, cut, filthy, and with a huge shit-eating grin on my face because I was happy to have stood in front of an HLV all day, churning out die bushings, or whatever the job-du-jour happened to be.

Just amazing what was built decades before cad/cam became available. Basically pencil, paper, and slide rules.

@wmffmw1854

2 жыл бұрын

Phil, you would be right but wrong, CAD/CAM is a set of tools, as are paper and pencil. It is the creative mind of Engineers that gets the job done. I know from experience. When I started designing PCB's it was a manual process using art supplies. Today I do the same job using a computer. Creativity is still the providence of humans.

@zenovich1

2 жыл бұрын

@@wmffmw1854 that's a narrow minded, easy excuse out ....if you ask me .

@tacomas9602

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget shit built in the 40s tends to be much simpler vs modern equipment.of the same type....from cars to tractors.

@gerry5712

2 жыл бұрын

@@wmffmw1854 but modern CAD/CAM and other tools allow you to do things of a complexity that would not have been possible with manual means. Try and lay out a modern high density circuit board containing high density high pin count devices with multiple layers and thousands if not tens of thousands of connections to components by the old acetate and tape method. Try and machine some of the complex shapes that are trivial for a CNC with a manual machine.

@mkay1957

Жыл бұрын

They probably did a better job too, in a timely fashion, and had pride in their work.

My dad worked in the Big Gun Shop during WWII...he was a machinist on breech mechanisms. This was awesome to watch how things were done. I've been to the Navy Museum which is in the for Big Gun Shop...highly recommended for anyone who visits DC.

Now 74 years later Im guessing by the year of the automobile at the start of the movie we all can be thankful for the insight to make it for history.😊

My great grandfather worked there in the 16" gun foundry pre-WW-1. His job was machining the barrel rifling. He later was hired at UC Berkeley College of Chemistry as their chief machinist.

I love these US Government War Department films for the cinema of the time. They are always excellently made and shot and narrated, educational and very good to show children and adults. In the case of some of the these War Department films such as The Memphis Belle (Director William Wyler) they have become the blue ribbon standard of educational, gripping, unmissable documentary making.

My grandfather was a machinist there! The worked there for 20 years...

@johnhagemeyer8578

3 жыл бұрын

My grand dad retired out of Navy yard in DC. In the late 60's.

I'd say this is more early 50s than 40s just based on that nice Chevy at 1:33 !

I love these old films showing off blue collar workers, and amazing vocations in machine tools! A damn shame they don’t make these types of films anymore!

I love these old films!

It is awesome that these films were commissioned at all.

I love these. What ever happened to the kind of men who could do this stuff? And where would we find them if we ever had to do it again?

@robertdinicola9225

2 жыл бұрын

They call us "deplorables".

@yepiratesworkshop7997

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertdinicola9225 I rather doubt that. And my father was one of those men. On the landing craft in North Africa and again in Sicily and then in the Italian Peninsula. Neither he, nor his friends that I knew were anything like the 'deplorables.'

@jeff-hk8yk

Жыл бұрын

@@yepiratesworkshop7997 you don't understand - Hilliary Clinton called all blue collar workers in the U.S. 'deplorables". She had a low regard of us who work with our hands and make things.

@hellishcyberdemon7112

5 ай бұрын

@@yepiratesworkshop7997 I think he means that you are considered the old way where the new way is very sensitive and doesnt allow for freedoms like you had back then

Back in the days of heavy metal everything! Good craftsmanship! 🤩

Absolutely amazing how so much overwhelming logistics for production was accomplished on what seems so primitive machines compared to today's

Well done to the USA as an Aussie I say thank you to our Big Brother

Great Film!!! This was made at a time when people had to access any resource available, and do what was necessary to make those resources work for U.S. One of the things that was considered to be very powerful back in the 1930's & 40's when this film was made, was the ability to PRODUCE good reliable products... It is a primary reason the Axis powers in pre-WW2 wanted the U.S. to stay out of the war... The industrial might of the U.S. and some of it's allies (U.K. , Canada, Australia, Russia) was something the Axis powers feared most... That is what helped so much to win WW2... This film highlights that amazing Skill, Courage & Know-How that the people in this documentary presentation had. Thank You for posting this!!!

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It is amazing watching this video. I live on the south-side of the Anacostia River. What you are seeing now is a small sliver of what is in this film. The DC Navy Yard no longer has access to the River! Instead, it is some "walkway", and the Yard itself is a minuscule walled-compound more befitting an embassy than a military installation. Most of the buildings survive, but they are luxury condos and lofts, with upscale businesses on the first floor.

Good to see a film like this, almost all the glory go to the troops yet without weapons and ammunition where would they be!

America is great because of every working man and woman in this country keeping the wheels turning

My Dad worked there during WW ll then a milk man in Washington DC

Very fascinated with the naval ordinance of the big gun era. Great video! Thank you!

Not from the '40s. The end credit is dated 1952.

@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO

2 жыл бұрын

The footage (or some of it) could have been from the 1940s though.

@dennisyoung4631

Ай бұрын

True. Looked this up, and the title “Naval Gun Factory” came in December 1945. (From Wikipedia) Ordnance work there was finally phased out in 1961. Bummer. Still have lots of neat museums on the site, though. If I ever go out that way - unlikely, given my age, declining health, etc - I want to see *those.*

The US Naval Gun Factory doesn’t exist anymore, but it isn’t because the jobs went overseas, OR because American engineers lack skill - It’s because naval guns have been replaced by guided missiles. Yes, Americans still manufacture the M2HB Cal. .50 (General Dynamics, Ohio Ordnance Works, and U.S. Ordnance in Reno, NV), and the Bushmaster 25mm chain gun (Northrop Grumman). As for the many types of guided missiles, and the AN/SPY-1 radar that guide them, the construction is done at hundreds of locations in the US by Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and Northrop Grumman. It’s also clear that none of the people ignorantly commenting on America’s inability to engineer and manufacture weapons live in Newport News, VA, Pascagoula, MS, Quonset Point, RI, Groton, CT, or Bath ME (to name just a few) where Americans are still building Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers, Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers, and Gerald R. Ford Class Aircraft Carriers. I live on the Potomac River, and every day I hear the sound of weapons systems being tested (at the Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center and the Naval Surface Weapons Center Dahlgren Division). While the Naval Gun Factory is gone, the Washington Navy Yard isn’t, and I’d highly recommend visiting the wonderful museum there.

@LTPottenger

3 жыл бұрын

Well genius, they can't even make the apollo rockets any more because there's simply no machinists left who can do the work now. So no you have no idea what you are talking about. Even most defense items are made overseas today lol Not to mention even the 'american' made ones have almost no one recognizable as american working in them today and are chinese or indian.

@abcdef-kx2qt

2 жыл бұрын

YOU JUST TRY GETTING A JOB AT ANY OF THEM PLANTS

@scottbarlow1397

2 жыл бұрын

@@LTPottenger how wrong you are. . there are plenty of skilled machinists who do you think is working in the machine shops in our defence plants now . . .you don't know what you are talking about fartsmella

@LTPottenger

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottbarlow1397 You're completely clueless. You run a cnc machine, you can't machine crap.

@scottbarlow1397

2 жыл бұрын

@@LTPottenger fist of all it isn't the lack of skilled labor that stopped the F1 Apollo main rocket engines besides they wouldn't build them anyway they are obsolete and built for the Saturn/Apollo program

Washington Navy Yard has a great museum, if you can get in! Not that easy anymore, I'm told... I went in 2010, got to see an admiral ceremony. Bathyscaphe Trieste, main attraction! The ship models were amazing. They had lots of Admiral Byrd stuff, of course... I would love to have seen the foundries but they were off-limits.

A period of time that will never be replicated

Fascinating film! I'm so glad I watched this .

I used to own a hobby tool business, which I ran from my garage. In this I used to renovate old hand tools and sell them online, or to old fogies like myself who would wander in on a Saturday afternoon and shoot the breeze and buy my old tools. Then things started to go sour. The first symptom of this was when a "graduate engineer" would come into my shop, and I had to explain what basic hand tools were for. Sales started to go down hill at an accelerating rate. Then about ten years ago, things got so bad, I couldn't even give the tools away. So, I closed the business down. Now, I come across "engineers" that I wouldn't trust to fix a broken flashlight. We are seriously screwed.

@steriskyline4470

4 жыл бұрын

Olaf Red my dad was a tool maker and was a real master of his craft and taught me to use every hand tool you can imagine by the time I was old enough to remember the names of the tools.I remember when I was about 13 and just getting ready to take engineering seriously the bottom fell out, tool maker was gone as a trade and engineers transformed into something I couldn’t stomach the though of doing for a living. Sorry to hear about you’re business, sounds like exactly my sort of thing!

@jacksonledford6874

3 жыл бұрын

Well If you have a mill or lathe still lying around I'd love to have one, I'm 19 and know how to operate and maintain old machines

@joshschneider9766

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a tool and die maker and a mold maker. With my five axis machine and digitally controlled lathe I can put out the entire days work of one of the light shops in this video in two hours flat. Screwed? Ok boomer.

@joshschneider9766

3 жыл бұрын

The world you are talking about is gone. The one that replaced it is in the way to making all physical labor voluntary. Exactly what did you think the end result of the evolution of machine tools was going to be ya nostalgic silly?

@crystalc1ear

3 жыл бұрын

I just got my engineering degree and I had a single course in all 5 years on how to machine parts. It's not enough. I learned a lot of stuff doing projects, but you're right -- engineers today are terribly uninformed on how to actually make things.

At 14:36 we see a date of 1952 on some paperwork, so I'm pretty sure this wasn't made in the 1940s.

What scares me is the number of times I said, "Oh, we had one of those machines at this shop or that shop"... I ain't that old, dammit!

That isn’t exactly why the USA began to push 4-year degrees. Every Engineering job at the US Naval Gun Factory, and pretty much every job at Bur. Ord. requires a 4-year degree. And the jobs that don’t have been increasingly automated, such that they aren’t likely to be around at all in another 10 to 20 years, whether in the USA, China, or Africa. You are correct about the decline in basic practical skills. But that is no more dangerous than the even more scarce lack of understanding of Science, Systems Thinking, Complex Thought, and other critical faculties that are increasingly needed to make educated choices in our world. So trying to act as if it is a “trade-off,” and it is a choice of “One or the other” is a great part of that failure in Education to convey the appropriate degree of complex thought (either that, or it is an ideological choice among one portion of the population).

Absolutely fantastic knowledge those men had. We think we're so clever with all our digital tech, but those guys had knowledge that could not be disputed. Overall, I would say that the quality of their abilities far outstripped ours. Digital is comparatively very easy. Doing it the old-fashioned way took far more knowledge and actual ability to execute.

So much talent and expertise. How much still exists today?

@joshschneider9766

3 жыл бұрын

The talent still exists. The footprint this place occupied is now partly the office of naval Intel and the rest is navy dept admin buildings

At 2.08 it shows a letter dated 31st January 1952 so this isn't a film from the 1940's :-)

When America was great.

@donsurlylyte

2 жыл бұрын

America is still great, moron

@andrewvida3829

2 жыл бұрын

@@donsurlylyte Very impolite response. Who is going to take you seriously when you speak to someone in that way?

@abcdef-kx2qt

2 жыл бұрын

BYGONE DAYS !

Date of film production in credits is 1952, and this is born out on documents filmed and tooling and weapons systems described and filmed.

There is such a huge shortage of skilled workers in the US

@paleoman8854

3 жыл бұрын

Bullshit! I'm unemployed now for 8 years. College degree but no one will hire a person in their 50's. I've got skills + a security clearance and no job.

@andrewvida3829

2 жыл бұрын

@@paleoman8854 You speak truthfully. I was stupid enough to become annoyed at all the calls I'd get daily from clients asking me to come solve their problems. I hit 50 and the phone stopped ringing. At 63 I now design ordnance for myself, as well as a few other odds and ends. The world is unkind to older men, but the solution is to go it alone, if you are so inclined, and not everyone is. In fact, most people are not, which is why the world is filled with clock punchers. But there are almost always alternate paths one may investigate.

In minute 2:10 the document shows that the video is not of 1940 but more about 1952. While the data about the video is wrong is nice to see how all those deadly things are made.

my grandfather helped make 16 in guns for battleships. according to dad some still around

@Filmpilot

4 жыл бұрын

paul in oregon I’d love to know how those interrupted screw breeches were made.

@dadillen5902

4 жыл бұрын

@@Filmpilot With a Boy Scout Knife and a very big tap. 😉

@bluemarlin8138

3 жыл бұрын

All of the 16” guns on the Iowas, Alabama, Massachusetts, and NC are original 1940s guns. We made enough to have plenty of spares so we didn’t have to keep the production line open indefinitely.

@marksroberts4880

3 жыл бұрын

And at some point they started wrapping the projectiles in teflon and the rate of bore wear dropped to almost nothing, making the life expectation of the guns and spare barrels essentially infinite (not literally infinite, of course!)

@joshschneider9766

3 жыл бұрын

The Iowa class is kept in ready reserve status so there's an entire class worth of them getting oiled and rotated monthly to this day

Back when there were true craftsmanship.

@manufacturingyourmatriarch9242

4 жыл бұрын

@Anasazi Tribe well you dont exactly hammer a quantum computer together.

@godbluffvdgg

4 жыл бұрын

The craftsmen and women of today make these guys look like cave men beating a rock into a wheel...You don't know what you're talking about...Watch a Haas CNC machine get built...

@mdlclassworker3384

4 жыл бұрын

@@godbluffvdgg -- the computer does the work, I get what you're saying though, trying to find a finish master carpenter or a mechanic that can rebuild a rear differential is a different story, hell just try finding someone to rebuild a clock, (mechanical clock) today is impoi, you just don't find Tru Craftsman

@godbluffvdgg

4 жыл бұрын

@@mdlclassworker3384 I'm a tradesman, carpenter for 30 years 15 years of that as a "finish master" ...We are a dying breed as well as my buddies are all retired machinist...But; It's mostly because people are no longer concerned with quality, More appropriately; they don't want to pay for it..As well; quality takes time; everybody wants everything done yesterday... Rebuilding is passe now because, as a mechanic; it's not worth the aggravation to rebuild someones rear...Once you touch it; you own it...But; I was more referring to the thousands of great mechanics in all disciplines that are out there...They've taken the thousands of years of experience and made it their own...I see many of them on youtube... The precision is even greater than back then...If it needs to be...

@joshschneider9766

3 жыл бұрын

Computer aided means just that. I as one machinist can today achieve what it took a gang of twelve to do in a day in this video in an hour. They would all laugh at the idea that progress should just stop.

I work ed there 1978 to1989 gsa side many items still there, sights, turits, crains, pits, ect.

@adksherm

3 жыл бұрын

Turrets*, Cranes* - whatd you do, sweep the floor? I thought people that lived before spell check could actually spell!

incredible when you see it in action. What they achieved with antiquated processes (compared to today). It's actually mind boggling that they were able to achieve such accuracy using their current technology. When you're talking 1 millionth of an inch, that's .0000001" damn.......

@david9783

4 жыл бұрын

Yes that's a mighty close tolerance!

@joshschneider9766

3 жыл бұрын

The standard was a ten millionth then so add a zero. FIfty millionth is the standard today.

@muskokamike127

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshschneider9766 that reminds me of a story a buddy told me. His father worked for a high precision company. They met all their competitors at the FMTS in Chicago every year. His dad met up with some guys from japan and everyone was bragging on how they were better no they were better etc. So a month after the show, he thought he'd show them....he mailed them a drill bit the size of a human hair. "how about this"? So another month goes by and he gets an envelope back from them. "top this". What? He looks, and it's the drill bit he sent them. He phoned up the guys in japan and said "what gives"? They replied "look inside" SO they put it under a microscope and sure enough, inside their drill bit was one from japan. I met his dad a number of times but always forgot to ask him about it.....

We use to call that the Pom Pom Gun when I was 6 years old .

I belive that arch gate is part of the navy yard now . Exchange on the left. Good times.

I just watched the 1915 Vickers movie where they build a 15" heavy gun then test it .The process was still the same when America was building this type of thing in the 1940's. Heavy forging is still done today ....but in Chynaaa.

This makes me want to cry. Our country is nothing anymore 💔

@JavvyF61

3 жыл бұрын

America has 257 ships in its active fleet. But yeah, it's nothing.

@Wa3ypx

3 жыл бұрын

National Forge in Warren, PA has capabilities to run gun barrels

@richardcranium5839

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wa3ypx they did have but things have changed since ellwood took over not sure they still have all the machines

@Wa3ypx

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardcranium5839 Ahhhh soo Rich. They did take over that plant

11:25.5 tape-controlled machines for accuracy, repeatability: predecessor of CNC controls, first tape, then removable/portable media.

All of this done with slide rules,micrometers, etc.,no computers.

@JJ-jv1gu

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Leidner slide rules r analog computers

@mikeschnobrich1807

29 күн бұрын

A slide rule is like having a calculator on a computer. How great is that!

This video was produced after 1952. Some of the equipment wasn't invented until after that

Fascinating!

The rise of aircraft carriers, lead to the demise of battleships, using these large guns. Its amazing, being that close to Congress, the Navy couldn't keep this factory alive..

Looking back over a career that began in the late 1970's, I have noticed a trend. Companies have you do a task they need in whatever process they do. That task may...or may not...help you stay marketable if there is a down-turn in work. The lesson, try to keep your essential tools sharp.

Before OSHA and NIOSH....

@jgstargazer

3 жыл бұрын

Good thing OSHA and NIOSH wasn't around during WWII, they would of regulated the munitions factories to a standstill.

See what your Father Mother or Grandfather Grandmother could do without computers and automated cnc machines .

@aland7236

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I saw that guy laying on a finished model tracing each cut on the pantograph. I bet he'd rather set the pattern to run on the cnc and leave to do other stuff while it runs.

@seantrevathan3041

2 жыл бұрын

@@aland7236 I ran a CNC oxyacetylene burning table in high school. I couldn't imagine doing all of that manually like that guy is doing.

My Grandfather worked across the Potomac in Alexandria VA at the Torpedo Factory 🏭 during WW2

Great video 👍

My father was stationed there in 1957 and 58.

What a cool video! Thanks for posting this!

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Жыл бұрын

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Been to DC in 2016, quite a different sight these days, but still some pretty impressive builduings to be seen.

That's not were the strength is now days. It is the information age and the techniques and craftsmanship can easily rebuild when you got films like this. It is nice to be nostalgic but do it with un-biased hindsight - I remember things were not really that good in the "good old days" - back in early 1970 as a ten year old (along with my friends as we watched a neighbor's roof repair) a tar roofer said to us as he wipe the sweat from his head - "Boys get yourself's a good education so you don't have to work like this". Coincidentally about 10 years later I would also do just a little tar roofing before going back to college. College, like bad ideas are over sold but don't through the information age out because of common (bad) sense - use good sense and see the advantages of our age - I would have loved KZread when I was a teenager - so much to learn and it all here very cheap but very valuable.

@MrPreacher8770

4 жыл бұрын

i like your sentament but most today couldnt do the tasks of yesterday

@sheepdog271

3 жыл бұрын

Most kids today have to have guidance on taking care of themselves personally (physically and emotionally) because their noses are stuck to a computer screen, no social interaction

One stop gun shop!

Great history

The completed gun mount at the end looks like Mk 33 3"/50, so late 1940's.

is worth remembering, as we admire the work here, that anti ship missiles etc, have made it all obselete

this is great

@vitrong5765

3 жыл бұрын

Back in the days of heavy metal everything! Good craftsmanship! 🤩

4:55 And another Winchell's doughnut begins to take shape, to be shipped to a lucky sailor in the fleet!

Also... The “dating” of this isn’t quite the “1940s,” as the replacement of the 40mm Quad Bofors with the 3” Automatic AA Guns did not occur until the 1950s. Oh! That and the date on many of the “Orders” and “Blueprints” of 1952 and 1955.

@bigredc222

4 жыл бұрын

At 14:24 it says 1952, good catch on the BLUE prints.

@joeverna5459

4 жыл бұрын

I felt it was in the 50's myself. there was no urgency in what they were doing.

@RubyBandUSA

3 жыл бұрын

Uh, I think they might have been busy with something else in the first half of the 1940's than to bother to make a film

@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid

3 жыл бұрын

@@RubyBandUSA There were a LOT of films made by the Military in the early years of the 1940s. The USAAF First Motion Picture Unit, along with many other Hollywood Producers/Directors we’re in the field as early as the end of Dec. 1939. John Ford was given advance notice of US Intelligence of the planned Japanese attack on Midway. He had Photographers on not just Midway Island (where he himself was during the battle), but also on USS Yorktown, USS Enterprise, and USS Hornet. But the film itself, composed by Ford as “The Battle of Midway,” released at the end of 1942 to a Nationwide Theatre Release, as well as every family who had members in the US Military who either served on Midway, or one of the Ships that took part in the battle, who received an 8mm Copy of the film, with the narration included as subtitles (sound film on 8mm, or even the later Super-8, film was freakishly expensive, and the projectors for it were basically out of reach for any middle-class American Family at the time). But in addition to John Ford, there was William Wyler, Frank Capra, John Huston, and George Stevens as the most notable Hollywood Producers/Directors who had been gearing-up for WWII even before it began for the USA. And while they were/are the most famous of the filmmakers who performed combat photography from the very beginning of the war, hundreds of others, and thousands if we include still photographers, and Radio-Reporters, also immediately rushed to record the events. From having dug through NARA (The National Archives), only a small portion of the,total film footage of that period has made its way to the public, which is why KZread channels like Periscope Films, or other Archivists are working to preserve these films. And in addition to NARA, the UCLA Television & Film Archive (the largest on Earth) has millions of feet of Film from that era that needs to be recovered, and restored.

This was filmed around 1950 judging by the cars

This was before the rock and roll era.

I live two miles North of the Watervliet Arsenal. They made some plates for the Monitor. They made many gun barrels.

@paulirish972

3 жыл бұрын

Living in Troy I thought that most bog gun barrels were made in Watervliet but on you tube you see from old films that a lot of places made gun tubes.

最初は大きいものの加工ばかりの映像ですが、中盤からは精密加工になっていきますね。

How about that "girlie" picture on the wall at 8:29?

So what was the gun system they were following through the factory? Looked like a twin 3"/50cal?

@kurtkuczynski

4 жыл бұрын

I thought it looked like a 5"/38cal.

@sarjim4381

3 жыл бұрын

Mark 33 3"/50 RF twin mount that replaced the previous standard of quad 40 mm mount. They were excellent antiaircraft guns in good working order, but keeping them that way was no easy task. The 3" twin mount spent much less time in active service than that of the 40 mm guns.

So many people are upset about this video showing dates from 1952. Please just enjoy the content and learn a thing or two.

Washington D.C. Navy Yard is still there, and does not look much different....except it's in color now.

@joshschneider9766

3 жыл бұрын

And hasn't produced a gun since nine years after this film was made let alone a ship.

@k.r.baylor8825

3 жыл бұрын

So many of the industrial buildings in the west side of the Navy Yard have been torn down. I only recognized two buildings--the DC Water 1908 pump building and the brick shed across the street from it--as still standing.

the sheer scale of that.....................

Allied Engineers Vs Axis Engineers. Never thought about War that way.

I can be wrong, but that is a worker with a cigar pouring the melt metal? :) 3:56

Note the guy's tie at 13:38🤣

FWIW judging from the cars, this was made in the early 50s.....

@MrSleazey

5 жыл бұрын

End credits say 1952.

Pretty gutsy to have all of that in one location, since forever. Easy target!

@MrKen-wy5dk

4 жыл бұрын

The United States wasn't being bombed 24 hours a day back into the Stone Age like Japan and Germany. They had no way to reach us. By the time of the Cold War, these weapons were obsolete.

@domitype

4 жыл бұрын

That could have changed at any time - submarine based (surface) rocket launched missile tech was within German capability during WW2, same for the Soviets after - a conventional weapon would do a lot of damage to such a compact target. Remember, they were designing and testing all kinds of new weapons there in the 1950s-60s, not just big guns.

@nickv1008

4 жыл бұрын

@@domitype sometimes it's pure luck things go in your favor.

@MrPreacher8770

4 жыл бұрын

nowdays maybe

@nickv1008

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrPreacher8770 most kids today seem scared of anything mechanical, it's hard to find one who could fix a lawnmower engine, much less make parts for one. As long as we can fight a computer battle, I guess we will be ok, we really need some more neighborhood tech schools.

At the end it gives a date of 1952.

@billboyd4243

5 жыл бұрын

Closer to the late 40's.

@gullreefclub

4 жыл бұрын

I believe can believe 1952 date of at least some of the footage because there are several shots of cars that were 1950/51 models

@NoelArmourson

4 жыл бұрын

The document shown at the beginning was dated 1952.

War is complicated.

@Commander_Koyke

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.

Is the last one 76 mm semi auto dual purpose gun?

@SealofPerfection

4 жыл бұрын

3" 50 cal

COMPANIES REFUSE TO PAY $$$

What about the machines making the machines?! How were they made!

@johnharris7353

3 жыл бұрын

Tool and die maker.

Ah the Navy Yard

What do they produce now?

@mikeggg5671

4 жыл бұрын

nothing - the navy yard has some offices. Nothing more.

These jobs were predominantly filled by people educated before 1945 in public school systems nationwide, and continued into the early 1970's. Today we don't have a work force with the talent or ambition to do this type of work. A good primary education ended in the early to mid 1970's when it was replaced by programming under the guise of integration. In 1970, a High School Diploma was the equivalent to a Bachelor's degree today, and an 8th grade middle school education then is the equivalent of a High School Diploma today. The Federal Government taking over the public school system was the greatest mistake "We the People" ever made in the history of this once great nation. Back in the 1960's approximately 15% of High School graduates went on to college, today college is the "be all, end all" in the minds of the brainwashed masses. All I can say is good luck with your fancy BA degree, hope you enjoy your career as an assistant manager at McDonald's or Walmart, or GOD forbid another public school teacher or college professor. -"The blind leading the blind"... "Those that can do, do. Those that can't do, teach. And those that can't teach, coach".

@Hopeless_and_Forlorn

4 жыл бұрын

Notice the racism inherent to the blaming of "integration" for the failure of public schools. Racism is fomented and encouraged by the neoliberal tide unleashed by the racist Reagan regime to distract working Americans from the loss of good jobs to the demands of corporate profits. How is blaming dark-skinned victims of neoliberalism AND racism working out for you? Where are all the great jobs the politicians have been promising you with every new trade deal and factory closing? Are you happy with your sht job and no medical care? Keep blaming blacks and Mexicans, idiot.

@gabrielnavarro3833

2 жыл бұрын

You're better than sleeping pills. Because you're so damn boring. Remind me of a professor who just droned on in class. And bored the shit out of all us students.

@TheBeefSlayer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah .... and another problem is to get a job like this they want a graduate from trade school now with 6 years plus experience just to get your foot in the door. Apprenticeship programs and industry willing to train workers just doesn’t hardly exist anymore. I tried to break out into the oil field about 14 years ago and nobody would train me. Nobody. Even when they seemed desperate for workers. I eventually had to go to a rig school to even have anyone take a look at me. And I was 24 just out of the Army with a good work record. I had heard that a decade earlier you could quit highschool and get this job right off if you would work and pass your drug test.

@philgiglio7922

Жыл бұрын

We had a different ending... those who can't administrate... mumble

Those beautiful precision cannon tubes remind me of reading about a government inventory search for some precision cut and balanced Naval Ship propeller shafts. They found them outside in the elements with rust on the finish. Ruined. Oops.

Need is the father of innovation,needs bigger ,faster shell that can kill our enemies faster an at longer range to save life's ,

Movies for the reserve center on drill weekends.😂

Does this place still exist

Sure would nice to watch without having that timer at the bottom of the screen.

@PeriscopeFilm

Жыл бұрын

Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes. In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous KZread users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do. Love our channel and want to support what we do? You can help us save and post more orphaned films! Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/PeriscopeFilm Even a really tiny contribution can make a difference.

No computers needed

Where does the US now produce such armaments?

@k.r.baylor8825

3 жыл бұрын

We don't have a need for hundreds of rifled naval guns anymore. When missiles began ruling the seas in the 1960s, guns were made obsolete. The few rifled guns for frigates and destroyers we need today come from elsewhere in America.

How much of this is in China now?