Would you get the Nismo over the M2 or does the lower price and optional manual mean it’s BMW for the win? Let us know in the comments!

@T_3rR4h

Ай бұрын

Manual all day, every day. Doesn't Nissan pay attention to the big players like porsche in that regard? That Nismo is simply far too overpriced.

@jp23x

Ай бұрын

Id get a bag of hot Cheetos over the Z

@deanmcmanis9398

Ай бұрын

I am looking forward to seeing the new Model 3 Performance, which I prefer over both of these impressive cars.

@Foiiiii1

Ай бұрын

Manual M2 all the way, you'd have to be a bit soft in the head to buy the Nismo Z when you could get the base model in manual for much cheaper.

@Marvelous0071

Ай бұрын

I'm keeping my 370Z

Look it up that BMW is actually putting 450 hp to the wheels, like all M cars it’s grossly underrated. This race was over before it started, is anyone surprised?

@Legendary-2024

Ай бұрын

nope! already left the comment lol.. more like 553hp lol

@jpracing893

Ай бұрын

Essentially they have to lie otherwise if it produced claimed it wouldn't be as impressive.

@ZephyrCorsa

Ай бұрын

@@Legendary-2024Not close to 550hp, BMW ratings are about 10% below the actual figures or closer to wheel HP.. The G87's output at the crank is closer or just north of 500HP.. That and it makes significantly more torque.

@speeddemon311

Ай бұрын

100% correct!!​@@ZephyrCorsa

Ай бұрын

To the crank goof ball

Insane that’s this cars are the same price.

@yawnn12

Ай бұрын

There's a Z for sale by me for 65k. I can think of so many more cars that better for the same or less. Who's buying Z's? What's the appeal?

@stephenhou5335

Ай бұрын

@@yawnn12 just get the base version at under 50k it is a great option if you dont want the bmw supra. The nismo version are for hardcore nissan fans like the gtr nismo which is like twice the price of the regular gtr.

@mthusiastmedia9782

Ай бұрын

That’s what I was thinking. Why on earth would they line these 2 up unless they cost the same. YUP. and in this case, the Z costs more lol. Why does Nissan do this to themselves. Great car for 15k less.

@superfast30

Ай бұрын

The Z is a rip. Makes the M2 look like a bargain!

@BigHeadClan

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@yawnn12Looks and a more engaging drive than any of its direct competitors. The Z has never been the best on paper of its direct rivals but it’s always been a very capable all rounder. That said I do agree the Nismo is too expensive, snag a base trim install new coil overs and an LSD and pocket the other 15-20K.

Even the M240i would’ve wore out that Nissan!!!

@travisfandrich

Ай бұрын

You beat me to it!

@Lionsheartification

Ай бұрын

Idk about that

@layne4376

Ай бұрын

It would have matched the acceleration but definitely not in the cornering. And I just slagged the Z in a previous post.

@Foiiiii1

Ай бұрын

The GR Supra would destroy it too.

@travisfandrich

Ай бұрын

@@Lionsheartification I would guarantee it! Because I’ve been that situation, I have a 2022 m240i and the new Z just doesn’t have the grip it needs to hold up, change out the tires and it would be better but still get beat

The fact that the Z is nearly $70K is criminal with this level of performance. This car should start at around Mustang GT money ($40K).

@patc8653

23 күн бұрын

@ nearly 70K I expect the Nismo Z to come with adjustable dampers, valve exhaust, adjustable aero(eg. rear wing) full Recaro seats(bottom is cheap Nissan cushion), carbon interior bits, data logging or telemetry, more power(450hp minimum), should have a manual option or a faster auto(Nismo trans still slow compared to a ZF trans). Even with all these changes and additions, the Nismo Z still being a cheap Nissan product.. MSRP should be @ 55K.

The price on the new Z is hilarious. $68k for that Nismo is straight up insulting

@patc8653

23 күн бұрын

This is why the new Z will be a failure.. there aren't enough stupid customers willing to pay the ridiculous MSRP Nissan is charging. The Sport trim Z isn't bad but still should have been started around 35K MSRP.

@GuyRandomOne

13 күн бұрын

And it looks ugly as hell.

I don't think there was a whole lot of mystery to what we were gonna see here

That S58 engine is a beast!

@Bimmer_Bill

Ай бұрын

And it gains about 250 whp with nothing more than a flash tune and e85. Don’t know any other platform that can do that with no bolt ons.

@Jmarzx

Ай бұрын

@@Bimmer_Billtrue as much as I try nd go against the grain I always seeem to have to go back to bmw for this rzn

@Bimmer_Bill

Ай бұрын

@@Jmarzx feel you brother

@BigLoMayne

Ай бұрын

@@Bimmer_Bill Sheeesh!

@jr1885

Ай бұрын

Exactly! I’ve had guys argue me down that the B58 in the M340i is better (and have never driven an M2). However I have and know that the S58 has crazy top end power. It pulls really hard in triple digits, something B58 struggles with (stock for stock).

That Nissan is 67k!!!!!!! wtf?!?!?!!

@chrism869

Ай бұрын

It's the nismo version,its gonna be more than the regular z

@Judas_LT1_313

Ай бұрын

@@chrism869I get it but brother, but for nearly 70k you have so many faster better performing options.

@mrjj216

Ай бұрын

​​@@Judas_LT1_313right. For that price point I'll happily take an s550 gt and have some money left over for mods.

@darthvaydor6716

Ай бұрын

For that you can get a mustang dark horse

@mkm6073

Ай бұрын

Not sure who’d buy this over the M2 (or others…)

3.6 sec 0 to 60 and 11.6 sec quarter!! M2 is a beast and that S58 has so much more potential.

@jz7551

Ай бұрын

That car definitely has more than 500hp

@justme307

Ай бұрын

For $10K less the Model 3 Performance will hit 60 in less than 3 seconds.

@mkm6073

Ай бұрын

@@justme307yeah, but then you have to drive a Tesla. But, I think in 2024 we can welcome gay people in the car world too!;)

@bigdi77

Ай бұрын

@@justme307man everyone don’t a Tesla fanboy

@justme307

Ай бұрын

@@mkm6073 Nice try. I own a 442, Charger R/T (late model), Subie hawkeye and C5 vert. Get back in your Corolla S.

I don't think anyone should be surprised with this outcome.....

The z is about 10-15 grand over priced for a warmed up half baked 80% refresh

@norwegianblue2017

Ай бұрын

Exactly. The regular Z is at least competitive at its price point, although still the underdog. The NISMO is a rip off.

@augustortiz

Ай бұрын

Add to that they never offered a manual option. They deserve to flop.

The Nismo Z is growing on me and I say this as a twin turbo 370Z owner. On the positive side, power won't be a problem. You can take it to your local GT-R tuner and they'll make it as fast as you need.

@shad3128

Ай бұрын

The Z has always been good for that, most people who are Z enthusiasts are never too worried about that. Problem is ever since the nismos came out around 2012 and upwards they are grossly overpriced for nothing special (I liked my 2018 but it was retarded for what it costs.) When it comes to modding them if people arent worried about money then yeah, they are awesome. However the b58 and s58s are insane if you do one or two mods now they pickup so much power per dollar. Its hard to be a nissan enthusiast anymore :(

@kok111188

Ай бұрын

The problem is the transmission. I bought the M2 with the auto because the ZF8 is such a insane transmission, smooth as silk but shifts hard when you want. The Z nismo feels clunky and dated - that's because it is dated, it's the same automatic they have been using in the 370z which is more than a decade old. If they stick a manual in the Nismo, it's going to be a great car. I loved my 370z Nismo 6-speed.

@IScoreUnderPressure4

Ай бұрын

​@@kok111188it's not the same automatic at all. You have no idea what you're talking about

@kok111188

Ай бұрын

@IScoreUnderPressure4 it's just another garbage Jatco automatic transmission with the design basis from a Mercedes. No one claims this transmission is up to standards from the competition.

@NFSINSANE

13 күн бұрын

The problem is the price

The Z never ceases to disappoint... This is coming from a Nissan fan too.

@johnstovall8846

14 күн бұрын

As a Nissan fan I alredy knew the outcome but was still sad to watch

More power, shorter gearing, better gearbox. The Z had its work cut out before it even began.

I'm a long time Nissan fan boy...currently have my 7th Z (a 2014 6MT 370Z Roadster Sport that I ADORE), a 6MT Juke Nismo for the wife's daily (>117k on the clock and still gets ~30mpg!), a 6MT Sentra Nismo for my daily and a 2016 FBO GT-R (that I'd LOVE to get on this show!!!) and even >I EDIT: Yup. Went exactly as expected. lol

@keithholbrook2471

Ай бұрын

The Z (Ive had several and still own a 70) is still a good alternative to those who simply won't own a modern bimmer because of shit long term quality; of which I also subscribe to.

@rmp5s

Ай бұрын

@@keithholbrook2471 Oh for sure. This drivetrain is basically bulletproof. The VQ35, then the VQ37, have been around FOR...EV...ER at this point and have been put in basically everything imaginable for a standard car company. It's a great engine! Mine needs boost...inbound. 😁 What year is yours?

@keithholbrook2471

Ай бұрын

@@rmp5s it's a '14 Touring 6sp with sport and Tech packages. 68k miles.

@rmp5s

Ай бұрын

@@keithholbrook2471 Nice! Mine is a '14 6sp too! Just the Sport though...no nav. Mine only has ~20k on it, though. Love it!! There are a few videos on my channel about it.

As a response to all those comments saying the Nismo Z would be better matched to the m240i. You would still be wrong. The m240i traps 12.0 - 12.2. That xDrive will still slaughter the Z.

@madpistol

Ай бұрын

Yep. M240i xDrive launches like a scalded cat. Z would be dead from the start.

The M2 has so much overboost once it gets to 3rd gear it's lights out. It destroyed the Dark Horse and RS3 in a drag so this is no surprise it destroyed the Nismo.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Ай бұрын

BMW likes to underrate their cars on purpose. If BMW says their car makes 400hp, it makes 500hp to the crank

@AutobahnSoCal

Ай бұрын

@@saltyfloridaman7163 yep

@saltyfloridaman7163

Ай бұрын

@@AutobahnSoCal I've already seen dyno vids showing the M2 at 448whp

@AutobahnSoCal

Ай бұрын

@@saltyfloridaman7163 yea they dyno over 500hp at the crank

This is the best head-to-head drag race format on the Internet. Switching drivers and lanes, the "U" track, the long straight, just so cool. Oh, and that M is just awesome!!

My 2024 X3M non comp makes 456 AWD HP stock. M2 is rear-wheel drive with less drivetrain losses. Even with the less powerful version of S58, M2 puts down impressive power.

BMW sandbags their numbers, the new M2 actually makes 450 WHP 👀👀 that thing is fast

@genderlessyoutubefanperson

Ай бұрын

I believe that. My 2024 X3M non comp makes 456 AWD HP. M2 is rear-wheel drive and even with the less powerful version of S58 puts down impressive power.

That Nismo Z engine has so much more potential. Wish they gave it the horsepower it deserves.

@chaaamoy123gomez8

16 күн бұрын

Same Vr30 engine since 2016. It's an outdated platform, don't why they couldn't closed decked it or some type of engine work. Still the same old engine with shitty turbos, that's coming from a q60rs owner.

As soon as I saw the difference in accelerration my first thought was, "no way there's only a 50hp difference between these 2!". 100 hp is more believeable. Interestingly enough the M2 only managed a 2:56.9 in Car and Driver's lightning track and the Z managed a 2:56.2. Close enough the driver/conditions seem to be the biggest factors. As a die hard Z fan, I still prefer the Z, but hard to suggest getting one over the M2 at the same price 😢

@RitwikDutta

Ай бұрын

I believe the C&D Lightning Lap also had a significant tire differential between the cars. The Dunlop Sport Maxx tires the Nismo was using during that lap have a 200 UTQG rating, whereas the Pilot Sport 4S have a 300 UTQG rating; if the M2 ran with Cup 2s or Cup 2 Rs, then I believe it would have probably been quite a bit faster.

@jaredscott4829

Ай бұрын

@@RitwikDutta And if the Nismo wasn't 100hp down... its run what you brung, not what ifs. You also can't compare TW ratings from different manufacturers, its not setup that way.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Ай бұрын

C&D's new driver isn't really pro level, he's more weekend warrior than track rat. He's good in any car, but not great when it comes to certain cars he tends to lose confidence in corners but give him time and he should improve

@hpickettz34

Ай бұрын

You forgot that this is the base m2 not at cs or csl edition coming later, the nismo was built for the track, the m2 wasn't.

@zspec1

Ай бұрын

@@hpickettz34 The M2 is made to be a track car. They just offer variants to be even more track focused. Similar to how gt3 is made to be a track car, but the gt3 rs is even more tracked focused.

Love these races, very useful! The only thing I'd like added in these videos are the prices as the cars sit in the race.

@willkaufman363

Ай бұрын

0:35 they show "price as tested"

Nissan 420 hp to the crank BMW 453 hp to the wheels That's a BIG difference. Almost every other manufacturer does hp to the crank. Time to change up your game gentlemen

I love these videos!!!

Makes sense why the nismo is more nimble. In Phoenix we have some engineers who test them at local Autocross events and they have worked dialing the chassis. That M2 though just seems like a track weapon though.

@unowen-nh9ov

Ай бұрын

Since it's the same platform as every rwd. BMW, no.

A more fair race would be with the m340 but yeah the s58 is probably the best 6 cylinder engine in the world right now

Nismo Vs Supra has to be next.

@Dagoroth55

Ай бұрын

My bet is that the Nismo will still lose to the Supra(BMW Z4).

Sounds like the M2 is a beast, but the Nismo is a pretty damn good drivers car. If you're racing, get the car that wins races. If you just like to enjoy the drive, the Z might be a pretty compelling alternative.

@layne4376

Ай бұрын

If you could get the Z in a manual, I might agree.

@ALMX5DP

Ай бұрын

@@layne4376 you can, just not the Nismo (at least not yet).

@jz7551

Ай бұрын

They'll give us manual Z nismo. It's just a matter of time.

Let's be real, the BMW has 100hp more. It's not secret BMW always underrate their Hp numbers.

@questionyourself718

Ай бұрын

Not 100. Like 30 more on the wheels.

This video was perfect for me--both newer gen models of what I own/used to own. A 350z back in the mid 2000s and now own an F87 M2C. These cars are in different leagues but both dominate in their segments. You cannot go wrong with either car. I remember when my 350z HR was $27K MSRP before this inflation took over haha. You really can't go wrong with either one if the price is right!

@currarwhitham-field5213

Ай бұрын

Haha I bought my 2007 manual HR for 27k nzd (around 50-60k originally here) 3 years ago, still going strong and your M2 Comp is my dream car, maybe I’ll get there one day!

@faYte0607

Ай бұрын

@@currarwhitham-field5213 you will get there! both are fun cars. enjoy your HR while you have it, I miss the unique purrrr sound of the VQ.

I love watching videos of my car beating on other cars

@blackfish4674

Ай бұрын

Haha same

@JacesOwnWorld

Ай бұрын

But how ugly is it though!! Very...

@blackfish4674

Ай бұрын

@@JacesOwnWorld way better looking than that slow pos mini station wagon you got. Looks like one of those small smart cars🤣

The interior in the Z looks like a 90s hynundai in quality.

@thomasferrarojr.9772

Ай бұрын

Agreed. Horrid.

@Dartheomus

Ай бұрын

As opposed to the exterior, which looks like a 2010s Hyundai. =P

@Sideways_Singh

Ай бұрын

​@@Dartheomus the exterior looks amazing, yall m kids dk ride one brand too hard its ok to like another car yall act like anything that isnt a m is damn rc car lmfao. When u get ur money up guranteed ur tone will change real quick n then u will be riding a new brand.

@kuksenekroksene7574

Ай бұрын

And bnw looks like from 80s

@Dartheomus

Ай бұрын

@@Sideways_Singh When I get my money up to buy a nissan? I could buy 5 of those cars today if I wanted. No way would I waste my money on it. Personally I don't want the BMW either, but I was just pointing out that the Nissan just looks cheap.

Did u fully turn off traction fully in the nismo 400z Like the m2 I didn’t see, it was just put in sport + for the z and for the m2 it was completely off

M 240i is Nizmo competitor

@layne4376

Ай бұрын

M240 is Z Sport competitor.

@povboy009

Ай бұрын

@@layne4376 m240 is smoking Z easily. Nismo would be perfect match

@occckid123

Ай бұрын

​@layne4376 the nismor isn't really more power it's better handling so the m240i is a better competitor unless they came out with a nismor rs

@layne4376

Ай бұрын

@@occckid123 But that is reality. The standard Z is a competitor. This Nismo competes with the M2 - they are the same price. Nissan overpriced this car and dropped the ball in adding more power. I won't even discuss the crappy 9 speed transmission but suffice to say that this Nismo is no more a competitor to the M240 than it is to the M340. They weigh within 50 lbs of each other, have the same motor, trans, etc. If you gander at Car and Driver's Lightning Lap you will see that the current Nismo Z and M2 are right on top of each other for lap times whereas the M240 is 7 seconds slower or in track speak, an eternity. Nismo is Nissan's 'M' brand not 'M Lite' brand.

@layne4376

Ай бұрын

@@povboy009 Nope. According to Car and Driver's Lightning Lap the Nismow is 7 seconds quicker per lap than the M240. In a 5 lap comparison, the M240 would be 35 seconds behind. It isn't even close. And I drive an M340 which is 50 lbs heavier than the M240. It is quick in a straight line but these two aren't great handling cars. And what are you smoking - even in acceleration, the Nismo is a couple of 10ths quicker in the quarter mile will running noticeably higher trap speeds.

Can you share what camera mounts were used inside the cars- so know which ones not to buy?

Would love to see a track comparison between the two

Wow! Shocker! Looking forward to Hellcat v Camry next time

Would be nice if you guys included which tires were used in your testing. Tires do without a doubt affect numbers/times.

@jonathanelfalan4866

Ай бұрын

great suggestion, I'll see if we can fit going forward. For now here's what each car was running; Nismo Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT600 255/40 R19 f, 285/35 R19 r M2 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 275/35 R19 f, 285/30 R20

@jakebaddios577

Ай бұрын

@@jonathanelfalan4866 Great thanks

Two amazing cars love to have one😊

This channel series needs to include older stock cars with modern tires!!!!!!! Might be interesting. I'd love to see a stock C5 Z06 vs these cars for perspective. That's just one of many cool match ups!!!!!!

Supra vs M2? B58 vs S58 anyone? Do a manual and an automatic U drag. Thanks as always for the great races.

Years ago I had an Infiniti M45. I learned then that German horsepower is different. I have a '20 M5 competition now, no more pretend Japanese horsepower. The Z probably has 350WHP, the M2 probably has at least 453WHP.

@sailguy0321

17 күн бұрын

Guess Nissan GTR horsepower must be different from German horsepower too. smh

@chrissmith-rv5ro

17 күн бұрын

@@sailguy0321 that's about the ONLY example, and it's 16 years old. Also, the way a 2023 911 turbo or turbo S will embarrass a nismo isn't even funny. And if you take a standard gtr, my '20 M5 competition will easily walk that, probably the nismo too. Look, I know that German horsepower isn't "different", it's just usually whatever number they're giving you is low, and it's actually at the wheels not the crank. So for example BMW says my car is 617/553. It's more than that at the wheels. Dinan measured 707 at the crank. Most dynos of stock cars are showing 640 or more at the wheels. So, it's mostly a joke I was making about "different". SMH...

@chrissmith-rv5ro

17 күн бұрын

@@sailguy0321 and what made me comment originally was when I had that Infiniti M45 with allegedly 335hp/336ftlbs a E500 raced me one day. I thought that on paper I had him, he has 302hp/I can't recall the torque. That car whipped me like it was a 60hp difference. I didn't know then what I know now, his 302hp was probably low, and WHP. My alleged 335ho was later downgraded to 325 and that was at the crank. So maybe about 275whp.

The M2 is $20-30k more here in New Zealand, maybe a tune and mild bolt ons and tires with that excess coin would put the Z on the same level. Nonetheless, I had my eyes on the Z coming out and have lost all enthusiasm in purchasing one haha.

As usual, BMW is underrating their engine output. I am curious about the red color on the M2. When you go to BMW's website, I don't see that red (Immola Red II?).

@chrisbradley3224

Ай бұрын

Toronto Red

Thank you

You guys should run the 2024 Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio (since it is its last year) vs. the 2024 BMW M3

It would be interesting to see Dyno numbers for each considering BMW typically undervalues hp numbers.

the fact they're the same price is crazy. the Nismo Z is cool, and im glad they made it but its really not in the same league

That 370 putting down that 420 at the timing chain😮.

Saw this at the local dealer while picking up parts. $68K?!?! So many cars are better for the same or less money. Was a big fan of the 300ZX TT. What happened?

Not just HP, gearing as well.

Not surprised, that Z looks good tho and the M2 looks have really grown on me

The fact that the as-tested MSRP is almost identical between these two cars is just……yeah.

Love my G87, probably the fastest thing you can but for under $70k new (other than the EVs), excellent interior quality, and I can still throw my kids in the back. I think the Nissan is priced ok for it's performance, but the M2 is an absolute bargain for what you are getting

S58 is such powerhouse..!! Wanna see ‘M5Cs vs Rs7 performance’

you guys should do explore st vs durango srt not the track hawk

wish y'all were testing the manual M2 vs the manual z

I would love to see the Jaguar Type R go up against some proper sports cars with less power, like a Corvette Stingray or an M2. Also, I only saw the Nissan Z drag race the Supra before the 20hp increase of the NISMO, you could be the first ones to do that drag race.

I love the Nissan Z, but their biggest flaw is their ridiculous price tags.

It's the F type R's last year in production. Could we see it compared to the M2 or M3 .

Liking the U-Drag element ....match the cars better as the M2 was always going to win..

Just realised that these are virtually the same price bracket. Ouch! Though the Z's a refresh, the m2 should have just been one itself & now that m2 is the epitome of "It's what's inside that counts"

We knew how that was going to go

I hope everyone else recognizes the fact that these two guys start every race almost perfectly-it plays an intrical part in the relevance of these races ¿`_

Seems about right. BMW underrates their HP numbers (as do most German manufactuers) while Nissan is usually pretty accurate. Stock M2's dyno ~465whp which is 520hp at the flywheel. That's a 15% underrating zee Germans are doing.

Edmund please do a Camaro SS1LE VS Shelby GT350/R or VS the Mach I or VS the dark horse

What’s a Nee Song??

Z is nice hopefully they dont hold on to value hope to get a V1 nismo but if the V2 is better i will wait for that

M2 acceleration numbers were significantly better than when it raced against the C8, how was the overall time worse now?

@saltyfloridaman7163

Ай бұрын

Surface temps, air temps, track conditions like dust, sand, etc

Ground breaking results.

You guys need to do the new Tesla model three performance against a BMW M3 comp

The S58 in the M2 is a monster of a motor. The Z stood no chance.

Yeah. Not surprised.

In Australia the new M2 Auto is $32,000 more that a Nismo Z

Oh yay, more automatics and launch controls. Can’t wait to see theses two ECU’s race each other

Nissan Z car was always compared with BMW Z3/Z4 coupes previously. In this case Z Nismo vs Z4 M40i would be more appropriate... It's like M3/M4 vs. Nissan GT-R the other way around, not a fair comparison.

I’m not mad that BMW “underrates”the HP. Lol It is upsetting when a manufacturer Says it’s a certain HP and you take it to the Dyno and it’s actually not even close… BMW is not lying about the HP they just forgot to put the W before the HP.

0:57 that sounds like my cue. okay so this one looks though on paper, but given how badly the Z has under preformed in other periodical's testing, I can't help but think the M2 will have the edge pretty much during the entire race. Sorry Nismo, I like the idea of your car, but that's my honest opinion on what I think will happen.

S58 motor for the win.

Z has been out for what, a year? Still have not seen one in the wild here in Vegas.

I want to see rs3 vs m2

Not sure why Nissan didn’t put the 6spd dct in the Z

I have not watched the video or read any comments but I already know who won. M2

I would love to see the M2 Vs MG4 X power. The MG only cost £37k. 🙏👊

awsome👍

i wasn't expected the m2 loosing lol, when dynoed it has more than 450hp claimed. so it makes an approximately 60hp diffence minimum

I want to see the Z up against a CT4 V Blackwing or a 5 Blackwing

Can we see c8 Z06 vs C7 Z06 , or C6 Z06 ,ZR1

Despite being a Z fan, driving a 370Z Nismo, the latest Z is not what I was looking the successor to be. Shaping of the car is nice, but when being compared to M it just doesn´t achieve that performance level, which it should have compared to the price.

Well, that was expected.

Didn’t even watch the video yet and knew the M2 would be victorious 😅

Last Z that had racing dna was the Z33 even the NISMO 380RS from 2007 is far better than the new nismo and supra gr

Edmunds: what can fly better, an eagle or a bit of dog shit. Thats what this race was.

@joshblack4982

Ай бұрын

Fr, like why would anyone in their right mind buy a bmw

@joshblack4982

Ай бұрын

Fr, like why would anyone in their right mind buy a bmw

How long has this Z been out 2 years? Im yet to see it win a single test ever. It would have been great car 10 years ago, now its just at the bottom of anything you can get.

Your leader board not right the black ghost had better times in 7 than the bez in 1 first

In Canada, the prices are right on top of each other. One would have to be completely nuts to buy the Nissan over this M2. Not to mention that you can actually get a manual in the M2 if that is your preference. If anything, buy a base Z, add a rear diff and mod it for $10K to out pace this Nismo.

30 hp shouldn't make that much difference.. looks like somebody intentionally didn't put the Z in sport+ mode or something else is off. I doubt they charge the same price for the 24 year model as well..

Not a fan of either one, but realistically I'd rather have the Z. It's more reliable, practical, and cheaper to maintain. I'd like to see a rematch with both of them on a down pipe and tune (leave the cats on).

@carboydorifutoparty3976

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That's still very unfair for the Z cause the S58 in the m2 can easily make 700whp+ on stock turbos + with dp can make far more power than a Z can with its stock turbos.

@phillyguerrilla

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@@carboydorifutoparty3976 Put the crack pipe down. A stock M2 will not make 700whp with an aftermarket down pipe and tune 🤣