So, what would be your pick: the GTI or the Elantra N?

@KuyaArbee

Жыл бұрын

aftermarket support, heritage, etc. VW GTI easily.... Elantra is nice but nice try Hyundai LMFAO! with all your engine recalls etc! yea Hyundai and KIA! NEVER EVER!

@lgz2006

Жыл бұрын

Elantra N all the way!

@dlombana161

Жыл бұрын

Veloster N :)

@paulh6517

Жыл бұрын

GTI for me. I will deal with the carbon build-up.

@hitmanhart6275

Жыл бұрын

The better looking and fastest one , the GTI

I love U-Drags. I wish this was a weekly series, especially with so many competitive enthusiast cars in the same relative price range under $50k

@wbwayne8887

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@adamheadland5033

Жыл бұрын

Me too, this is a much better indication of a car's performance than regular drags.

It still amazes me that nobody ever thought of this type of competition before Edmunds.

@MLHunt

Жыл бұрын

I know right? It's a very good quick and dirty way of seeing what a car can do.

@iluvcakes19

Жыл бұрын

It amazes that even after Edmunds has implemented it, no-one has copied it. Seems like a no brainer.

@madrx2

Жыл бұрын

Didn't road and track magazine do it?

@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921

Жыл бұрын

@@madrx2 Nope

@damendred1

Жыл бұрын

This one is a clean format from a respected company, but several channels have done similar things, here we have a pro driver, doing lap times on 4 cars in this price range (Results near the end, spoiler alert: wildly different results than we see here) kzread.info/dash/bejne/oWatrMSpqLnNhKQ.html

Type R owner here. I've seen both of these cars extensively at auto cross events. The Elantra N has been objectively faster than the GTI around any course I've been to over the summer. This seems off.

@patrickbilodeau3785

Жыл бұрын

Elantra N owner here. Just want to thank on behalf of all N car owners ! Your statement carries allot of credibility since you've raced so much. Something was a miss in this race. Have a good day. Fan of the Type R as well ! Cheers 🍻

@tomtom255

Жыл бұрын

I'm curious what tires they have on the Gti, I know some of the press cars had the Bridgestone semi slicks on them.

@burnyshin

Жыл бұрын

I saw every video, Elanta N never beats type R.. but never lose normal GTI.. Something wrong in this test.

@johnss2k434

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this statement, I expected the N to win here. But I do see the tuned GTI's do very well at autocross events.

@markx787

Жыл бұрын

Golf R MK8 owner here and surprised by the result too.

In the previous Subaru match, Elantra N produced a 37.6 second result. This video is a little weird.

@zxmurph1

Жыл бұрын

with a stick no less, but I guess the old- different day, driver, temp, surface conditions etc.........

@davidgriggs3967

Жыл бұрын

I don't like how the cameras swap while racing , the way that gti just made up for the 3 car gapping it got from the EN at the start and took the win even though the N has the way better electronic differential.......bit suspicious.

@whatiwant8898

Жыл бұрын

Yeah especially when in each race the Elantra lost, but it had higher trap speeds and more grip.

@StinkySundae

8 ай бұрын

Rigged

@taemeister9302

5 ай бұрын

This video is rigged 100%

I'm not a fan of the design of the new Sonata and Elantra, but for some reason, I'm digging the N. I think it's the blacked out front and aggressive fascia.

I have to admit, I’m surprised. I did expect it to be close, but still thought the Elantra would take it. I think a lot of people underestimate the GTI.

@dodga100

Жыл бұрын

When the GTIs are tuned they make light work out of tuned V8s,

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@dodga100 with E85 yeah

@dodga100

Жыл бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935 the MK8s are making MK7 E85 power on 98 tunes, ECU just got cracked, it’s on like donkey kong🤣

It's easy to think that the GTI wouldn't perform well because it looks so similar to all the prior ones. They definitely did more for the Mk8 chassis than it appears.

This U-Drag concept is amazing. I am shocked about the results here, I really expected the N to dominate this.

@ALMX5DP

Жыл бұрын

I mean the drivers did switch cars, so you mean get 2 entirely new drivers in the seat?

@carscoffeeandcannabis-634

Жыл бұрын

@@ALMX5DP Do they? I thought they just switched the lane each car was on and kept the driver! If they do switch cars, I apologize!

@AntFragale

Жыл бұрын

@@carscoffeeandcannabis-634 the driver’s actually swapped :P

@Daveyboy_GolfR

Жыл бұрын

As a VW GTI and golf R owner, the EN should have had this. Just so happens both drivers had perfect runs with the GTI and totally messed up while driving the EN

@en_noah4615

Жыл бұрын

the N would've dominated if the drivers weren't absolutely awful lmao. I've raced a GTi and I don't know what they are doing here but I put like 2 bus lengths on it

Felt like he messed up Big time on the second race with elantra they should of redone that match.

@blevin569

Жыл бұрын

yup, the EN launches really well. System wasnt engaged properly on the 2nd race.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@blevin569 yep but he did the first time.

@LordHolley

Жыл бұрын

@@blevin569 Was it the system or was it the operator? The 1st race, the guy ran wide in the turn and he admitted he had it in the wrong gear pulling out of the turn. The 2nd race the guy screwed up the launch. The GTI is definitely a more refined daily driver with a little bit of weekend spirit but the Elantra is faster and lighter. There's no reason it shouldn't have beat the GTI. I'm calling shenanigans.

@damendred1

Жыл бұрын

@@LordHolley Yeah, a couple of channels have done drag races and drag and rolls and the EN dominated the GTI. I know this is different with the U drag, but still in all the other ones it was clear within seconds the EN had more power, and these guys even said what 'should happen' but it didn't. But I think this does prove that the Gulf is less finicky.

@chrismensforth2763

Жыл бұрын

@@LordHolley yeah the local VW dealer paid more sponsorship $$..

The outcome SHOCKED me in this one, I thought I knew the outcome when I saw the cars listed. I thought I knew the outcome when I saw which drivers were in which cars (sorry, not meant to be rude but there is precedent). Then the video happened. Shocking, that was a good race, much better than expected. 👍

@briandorsey6437

Жыл бұрын

As a 2022 GTI owner….NOT shocking!!! The thing handles and brakes and accelerates so well!

@Kamukix

Жыл бұрын

@@briandorsey6437 are you still on those stock Goodyear all season tires?

@briandorsey6437

Жыл бұрын

@@Kamukix no mine is the Autobahn edition which comes with summer performance tires which have been really good this year including the winter.

@Kamukix

Жыл бұрын

@@briandorsey6437 I would prefer an Autobahn as well because of the adaptive dampers. I have had adaptive on my last two cars and I'm spoiled now. I love them on my mk7.5 R, but our mk8 GTi S is very good as well besides those mediocre tires. I might swap the R wheels and tires on it just to see how it looks and how good the chassis really is with decent rubber on it.

@briandorsey6437

Жыл бұрын

@@Kamukix I must say the Adaptive Dampers have been a pleasant surprise in terms of how noticeable the difference between comfort mode & sport mode are. It’s like two different cars. Comfort mode is fantastic for whipping around a city or shitty roads in cities or shitty highways. The chassis & shocks just roll & adjust so smoothly and take the road yet the car still feels pretty sporty. Sport mode the whole thing tightens up from chassis feel to steering wheel tightness to the way the engine Revs and how long it holds the gears ⚙️ and rev hang etc…I didn’t think I’d like the different modes so much.

These are great. Im so sick of the straight line drags which really just highlights - launch control. this highlights the actual cars performance much better, but still with the excitement of a drag.

There's going to be a lot of salty Elantra/Veloster/Kona N fans on here lol.

@vr6gls

Жыл бұрын

Ohhh, they are big mad in the comments section. 😂

I have a tuned MK7 Golf R and I love seeing my little brother GTI kick some serious butt!

@patrickbilodeau3785

Жыл бұрын

Go see Sam CarLegion...he has a video of the Elantra N beating a MK7 R and winning a roll race against a MK8 R. (all stock of course) There's no denying the R is a serious machine...but the Elantra N is no push over. I wouldn't put too much stock on this race since the GTI is more nimble in tight turns...take this to a real track and the N wins hands down...would even beat the R ! Hopefully someone does that !

@vr6gls

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickbilodeau3785 You are big mad aren’t you? I see you defending the Hyundai all over these comments. Buyers remorse maybe? 😂 Btw, SamCarLegion is a joke. His videos are awful and he can’t drive for shit.

U-Drag races are seriously my favorite thing on YT right now. More please. 🙂

Hey Edmunds Cars, you should really fix the “As Tested” price on the GTI. You have $30,975 but that is clearly a Kings Red Metallic GTI Autobahn which has an MSRP of $39,525 before destination (according to VWs website) Looks like you quoted the S trim 6 speed starting price, not even the DSG. Kind of a misrepresentation

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

Who cares, the Autobahn SLOWS down the car and adds weight, so was their weight rating off too? They should've done the DSG yeah, but guess what I've found many DSG GTI',s for 31.5K MSRP.. FYI

@asianyangster916

Жыл бұрын

clearly they want to show that the GTI is better.

Good race. A couple of things to say. First, the GTI, with adaptive dampers, can go 3 levels above sport mode if you go to custom mode.. essentially track mode. Second, you can create a shortcut to access to turn the ECS off Swipe down on Home Screen. Hold the “house” home button for 3 seconds and you can move the ECS off option to Home Screen so you only have to swipe down in the future and do it in 2 clicks. That being said, Hyundai has done a great job of creating driver-centric cars… something which I seems to have fallen off the radar for a lot of automakers

@mistamaog

Жыл бұрын

To think, they used a base model GTI in the video, and not even the one with adaptive suspension. I wonder how it would've performed with those.

@darrensnyder4742

Жыл бұрын

@@mistamaog that’s what I wonder. Set three levels above sport mode with the adaptive suspension, the new GTI has like zero body roll

@mistamaog

Жыл бұрын

@@darrensnyder4742 This Mk8 really is impressive

Love this series.💯

As volkswagen fan and owner I know no car will give you the feeling of control as golf

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

Lol. The Elantra n is way more controlled at fast speeds

@GTIclubdport9462

11 ай бұрын

@@mharro88 elantra n is ugly car and with engine recalls no for me . Ill take the GTI its a winner ..and its a GTI the iconic car . the baby Porsche.👍👍

@mharro88

11 ай бұрын

@@GTIclubdport9462 there hasn't been any engine recalls for any of the N cars idiot lol.. a GTI doesn't handle anywhere near as well as a Elantra N or as quick

@phoenix_yih

9 ай бұрын

​@@GTIclubdport9462GTI is a sissy car that God hates. 😅😅😅

@venurabulathsinhala5078

3 ай бұрын

@@mharro88no way the only good thing about the Elantra is the tires which makes a huge difference

U-drags are legit. More fun than a straight line drag

I really enjoyed the race ! 👏🏻

Liked, subscribed, and commented. Keep the U-DRAGS coming!!

Great video! Surprised that the Elantra didn’t take the win here. Seems like the GTI is great when it comes to quick, tight corners, while the Elantra is better in a more track based environment. At least these 2 sporty cars are staying relatively “affordable”

@buildmorefarms1007

Жыл бұрын

GTi is 200 lbs lighter.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@buildmorefarms1007 with a more upscale interior, much quieter and upscale NVH, and better ride, based Id personally take the Elantra N but both are great choices depending on the person. Especially if you tune the GTI

@carloscervantes836

Жыл бұрын

Core GR Corolla will be 35k starting no?

@markg7213

Жыл бұрын

@@carloscervantes836 more like 38-39k with the needed performance pack. But that’s before the dealers get ahold of you 😭 if you can get this car for MSRP, it’s an excellent bargain. We’ll have to see what Honda does with their pricing

@asianyangster916

Жыл бұрын

Elantra didn't win cause these two guys don't know how to drive. One guy brake too soon the other guy didn't know how to launch. And they supposed to be professional drivers. Sad.

The Savagegesse guys put the GTI on the dyno and it was putting 240 to the wheels. Figure 15% drivetrain loss, it would actually be 270ish at the flywheel. So figure roughly the same horsepower and ~130 fewer pounds, it's less surprising. However, I am STILL surprised. Though in Savagegeese's drag race the GTI beat the Elantra in the 1/4 mile as well. I do love this format. Do this with everything!

@callmebex5120

Жыл бұрын

Stock Elantra dynos at 270, so it’s really 300-305ish.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

@@callmebex5120 sometimes.. they've also dynoed at 250, it's not as consistent as the GTI's underrated ratings especially torque Regardless, the Elantra N's power is finicky as fuck and won't even do full boost unless you do octane learning EVERYTIME you fill up with gas man look it up. And many people have trouble activating it at all. If you don't your boost and power gets limited.d

@jasonsee4041

Жыл бұрын

Came in here to find this comment about the MK8 @Robotic Venom so the Elantra N maybe was pulling timing on the 2nd race and thus could not engage LC? Maybe?

@gigi651

Жыл бұрын

Gti is better tho it could've gotten slightly better launch

@ctcdarkness

2 ай бұрын

@@roboticvenom1935the limited boost non octane learned numbers are where hyundai got the 276hp and 289lb ft of torque ratings from. Octane learning was meant to be a nice surprise but was poorly executed. If it worked as intended it’d be great but it’s mainly just software tuning changes that need to be made

Funny, NO ONE else has lost to a GTI in the N

U Drags are great! Keep them coming!

@edmundscars

Жыл бұрын

We will!

I love hatches. They look simple and clean

I think they should add a pro driver to take a spin in each car for consistencies sake and to have a comparable leaderboard.

As a GTi owner I can’t explain how agile they are and the brakes are incredible

@clipsncasts1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed I have a 2018 GTI and use to have a BRZ I turbo'd. Sure the BRZ handled better but not by as much as you think. My GTI is just as fast too with the tune, bolt ons.

Weird that I can't find anyone else who somehow shows a GTI beating an Elantra N. It always seems to be the other way around.

@briandorsey6437

Жыл бұрын

Because this is the most realistic car racing test - Not a drag race for a quarter mile - that’s a drag race not street conditions

@neekjp

Жыл бұрын

savagegeese also had the same outcome

@simphiwendlovu7

Жыл бұрын

@@neekjp link please

@unexplainedwearenotalone3537

Жыл бұрын

GTI never beat n performance check KZread golf gt vs i30n or check video Sam he race Elantra n vs golf r and golf lose around the world n performance best stability flat sound top of any fake gt or put track corner turns see what can do n performance this golf can't compare vs n performance.

@neekjp

Жыл бұрын

@@unexplainedwearenotalone3537 sam has the worst videos on the internet. watch savage geese 10x more reputable.

Also how did you come to an as tested price of 30,975 for the gti with the autobahn package 19s?

@shrijanaryal4923

Жыл бұрын

Yeah wrong data provided by such a renowned channel 💩💩.

In the video with the Elantra N vs WRX, the Elantra N was 1 second faster.

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, because of its tires. Ones the WRX can upgrade its wheels it would dust the Elantra. The Elantra is running 245 Pilot 4s, quite possibly one of the most expensive tires on sell. Take that away and you loose most of its performance.

@Eugen-E

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho I mean the elantra N in that video is 1 second faster than the Elantra N in this video.

@commentmancommentman1658

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho this video is crap. Edmunds always overrating vw. Also you think the subaru will beat the more agile EN? The only advantage the wrx has was off the line acceleration.

@ENDCT-mx5ei

Жыл бұрын

@@commentmancommentman1658 ya Edmonds is obviously on the vw payroll

@commentmancommentman1658

Жыл бұрын

@@ENDCT-mx5ei its always been.

U-drags is the best idea ever. I would choose the GTI. Seems like it is more refined and I love hatchbacks.

Having owned the GTI and now a Kona N, KN is better performance wise and more fun. GTI is more comfortable and refined. Cant go wrong with either.

@davothegreat9990

Жыл бұрын

Given how well the gti did here I doubt the Kona N is the better performance car. Maybe you can't drive 🤷

@1209MArky

Жыл бұрын

@@davothegreat9990 I can’t drive, but they admittedly messed up the launch on the 2nd run and didn’t use NGS Properly either. Got it!

@davothegreat9990

Жыл бұрын

@@1209MArky understood. But it still lost the first run too.

@genderlessyoutubefanperson

Жыл бұрын

You have not owned MK8 GTi. There is a big difference in performance between Mk6/MK7/Mk7.5 GTi like yours and MK8 GTi.

Finally an outcome not paid for by Hyundai

What tires are on the GTI?

I really like U-Drags, I wish they were released a little more frequently. It sets you apart from other car channels, I'd be leaning on it hard.

I want more of this!! It's addictive.

Just curious. Would you folks consider even more affordable rivals? I would love to see the Elantra N-line against a Civic SI.

It's not as complicated to turn ESC off as they say, there is a drop down menu at the top of the screen with a shortcut to change ESC settings easily (previous MK7 GTI owner, current MK8 GTI owner)

@JCTiggs1

Жыл бұрын

Mine doesn't have that shortcut and there doesn't seem to be a way to add it either.

@malikcbarnett

Жыл бұрын

@@JCTiggs1 Check out the Deutsche Auto Parts KZread channel, there's a tutorial on how to find it.

@JCTiggs1

Жыл бұрын

@@malikcbarnett Thanks I did check it out but he doesn't show how to 'add' a short-cut. I do have the pull down menu but the ESC button isn't there by default. Maybe it's a region specific thing.

@JCTiggs1

Жыл бұрын

@@malikcbarnett Found this video on how to add a shortcut, I'll try it out tomorrow, hopefully it works! 😎 kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWyGzah8Yb3OndI.html

Needs to be more of these please 😊

Pro drivers from Edmunds, one couldn't get the right gear on the way out of the corner, and the other couldn't get the launch control working properly. WELL DONE 👍👍

@L_G_Brandon

11 ай бұрын

Bro it’s a Hyundai what you can’t ask for more .

Did they talk about the tires? What tires are the gti running?

So many of these reviews on the EN are done by people that don’t actually know how to drive it. Whether it’s from the launch control or how to use the NGS button. I’ve raced GTIs in my EN DCT and gapped them by quite a bit. Using the N mode in auto isn’t where you get all the power. Using the N mode and paddle shifting in manual is where you can really push it. This race was determined by the drivers. Not the cars.

GTI all the way! :)

The MK8 GTI power numbers are definitely under rated by VW. The car is putting down 245-250 HP and 275-285 lb-ft at the wheels or around 285 HP and 315 lb-ft at the crank.

@JuanRodriguez-uh4hr

8 ай бұрын

I agree it makes around 300 crank plus you can tune the GTI

@JCTiggs1

8 ай бұрын

@@JuanRodriguez-uh4hr The tricky part is getting a proper launch without nasty wheel hop, especially after a tune!

I LOVE this stuff!!!

We need more u-drags! 😊

I love these U-Drags and Lauren McCain's commentary is the icing on the cake i didn't know i so needed! That was a great race and I can't wait to see the next match up.

@mofayer

Жыл бұрын

What do you think about diversity hire? For or against?

Gotta go GTI, more comfortable and an equal performer. I’m sure you could add some of the Elantra’s drama into the car if you really wanted to since the platform is just a newer version of the previous generation which had plenty of routes to take to add to the car.

@avery4528

Жыл бұрын

Aftermarket lower springs, a meaty exhaust, and camber plate and tow arms tuned by a professional would do it.

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely not a equal performer.

@L_G_Brandon

11 ай бұрын

@@mharro88not it performs better right

@mharro88

11 ай бұрын

@@L_G_Brandon the en walks all over the GTI in driver engagement and performance.

@L_G_Brandon

11 ай бұрын

@@mharro88the only difference this GTI had was the tires . both cars had summer tires this time unlike in previous reviews the GTI had all season. But remember the GTI is the competitor to the Elantra Turbo, a the competitor to the Enlatra N is the GTI CLUB SPORT. But it was not needed as this video clearly shows the regular GTI is a totally different car when you put summer tires on it

Nice new concept!

@edmundscars

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

By the way, you shoud compare Elantra N (8-speed DCT) with others because it is faster in tracks and cheaper than others. The Elantra N can make a U-turn with only 3 wheels. Every comparisons between manual transmission cars were dependent on people and unreliable. Some comparisons may be evil intentions. Elantra N (8-speed DCT) which is easy to drive faster than Elantra N (6-speed MT). For examples of 0-100km/h times, Elantra N (8-speed DCT)~ 5.3sec, GR Corolla ~5.3sec, Civic Type R~5.4sec, Subaru(MT)~6.1sec, Elantra N(MT)~5.?sec. This video reminds me of Dieselgate. The Elantra N (8-speed DCT) is no match for the 240-hp Golf GTI. Elantra N (8-speed DCT) is faster in U-Drag even compared to Golf R.

I want to see a few more runs. They were pretty close.

Finally an honest review

So did the first driver use the boost button or not

U-drags are the best. I still take the Elantra N, just for climate control buttons.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't, interior is less upscale many hard plastics, the ride is much stiffer and the NVH is much worse because it's based on a $21K Hyundai Elantra.

Better Host, better driver. Good stuff.

The GTI being a overachiever yet again, as always 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

As sticker price is wrong, Your car is the loaded autobahn thats 40k.

No contest…boy racer vs refined machine ✌️

GTI fanboy but own a Hyundai so it’s tough but I’d go with the MK8. I had a Mk7.5 till I got in an accident. GTI always punches above its weight class! 👍🏻

Got a simple question: this is now, at least, the second video I've seen where you guys put the words "top speed" in the title but obviously don't show the tops speed in the video. Are you pRoOfReAdInG your titles before you upload them or nah?

Love these videos. Very unique and innovative concept. And love Lauren's addition to the channel!

@edmundscars

Жыл бұрын

More to come!

People love to slag VW for its alleged reliability issues, although I've had six from the Mk1 all the way through the Mk6 and none of them were money pits. People just hate the fact that they're as popular as they are and when you're on top you're a target. But as good as the Koreans are getting, they've yet to truly trump these hyper Golfs. The all around space/utility, comfort, interior quality and materials and (yes, you do have to push them now...) - the potential for serious giggles when driven with gusto. They simply tick every box and this is why they are the benchmark. Are they perfect? Hell no. Are they the fastest car from light to light. Nope. The best fuel economy of any hot hatch? I'd say not. But they simply do everything so well, it's pretty much the only car you need. Not to mention that the Germans are notoriously famous for underrating their actual horsepower numbers. If the difference in these two cars was as the numbers show, this shouldn't have been the outcome. Even the base GTI, especially with the DSG, is pretty damn quick. The R is almost stupid for the segment. The only really kink is that mk8 infotainment. They definitely went backwards there

@buildmorefarms1007

Жыл бұрын

They just arent as sharp as the N and the haptic buttons and lack of tuning and volume knobs is unforgiveable.

I love sedan cars and elantra N is one of them ❤️ with great power and reasonable price

I wonder what fuel they were using. EN has octane learning which I assume VW would too. EN adjusts boost 1-2psi with good fuel

@burnyshin

Жыл бұрын

This test, something wrong..

@Adamal85

Жыл бұрын

@@burnyshin I have an Elantra N and run Shell V-power 93 which is really nice fuel for turbo cars so I'm curious. I assume they are using California 91 octane.

@genderlessyoutubefanperson

Жыл бұрын

@@Adamal85 GTi was using 87 in this test. Imagine 93 ....

I put no stock into a drag race tbh. It means nothing. I would never drag race. I want to see how they handle on a road course.

Something was amiss, the elantra n was a full 2 sec slower in this race vs its time of 36.5 against the wrx. Hard to tell with press cars, the brakes could have been glazed and the tires could have been dead after an interesting week with savagegeese. Lol

That as tested price is completely wrong for the gti. That looks like the autobahn trim which is closer to $40,000. Base trim doesn’t come with those wheels and headlights.

I can’t believe,as stated in the owners manual you are required to manually octane learn the N to give full power every damn fill up by driving it for 5 mins at near 70 or pressing the throttle in on off pattern at lower gears for a set time or it pegs it to 15 psi! Once it knows it’s on premium you get 4psi more before NGS overboost. As a GTI fan I’ve learned a fair amount about the N from the owners and it is definitely a good car.

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

I have too but the octane learning is pathetic. I've been on the forums and many owners are literally STUCK in the lower horsepower mode and therefore have their car gimped, it's a joke. It's super finicky and does not just "work for 5 minutes" from the videos I've seen from owners and comments. Really sad Hyundai did that, GTI is just get in and drive.

Why didn't this video feature the leaderboard of times like it did when they did the EN vs the Wrx? It did a 37.6 which was faster than both times in this video. What happened?

@ItsSethW722

Жыл бұрын

This is the right answer. I'm obviously biased, but this race is botched big time.

Wow... this is the best drag race..

I can’t believe you have to as stated in the owners manual you are required to manually octane learn the N to give full power every damn fill up by driving it for 5 mins at near 70 or pressing the throttle in on off pattern at lower gears for a set time or it pegs it to 15 psi! Once it knows it’s on premium you get 4psi more before NGS overboost. As a GTI fan I’ve learned a fair amount about the N from the owners and it is definitely a good car.

I have a 2017 GTiS and a 22 Veloster N. Both so so fun to drive. I drive my Kona Ultimate turbo most of the time for daily and my 2021 Stinger GT 1 just seems mundane

@skip741x3

3 ай бұрын

I dont think you have enough cars bro....Only four?

This is bias the N has way bigger brakes upfront and touch bigger in the back with a more handling capability with the rear chassis brace. The N brakes are 14.2 inch vs the gti 13.4 inch. Y’all made the n look bad when is obviously better than the gti

Was Elantra Octane Learned?

I love how 90% of this video can be skipped. I can only imagine how much they spent on this

Could be octane learning. Without following the procedure to octane learn as outlined in the manual the Elantra N traps about 5mph less in the 1/4 mile and loses quite a bit of tq/hp

VW just makes great cars. That’s just a GtI too. R model is a lot better too.

Just felt like they aren't doing their best when in Elantra N. The lap time for EN was much smaller.

@asianyangster916

Жыл бұрын

clearly they want to show the GTI is better. Nothing to see here.

Still I would choose Elantra N

Idk but i think something off on the N. I’m pretty sure it’s quicker than the gti

What tires are on the gti!? Let's go!

I always feel fooled by the GTI because all the press cars have good performance tires and the consumer cars have crappy all seasons. I love my GTI’s but tires are the first thing I changed out on my mk7 and 7.5

@evaristocorripio5434

Жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly, especially on the jetta gli which comes with horrible hankooks which are awful, it really should be the first thing to change on these sporty vw

@HarryTwatter

Жыл бұрын

Cheapest best mod then tune

@patrickbilodeau3785

Жыл бұрын

I had a 2018 GTI with a Unitronic stage 1 tune and Borla exhaust...my Elantra N stock is faster and sounds much better !

@evaristocorripio5434

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickbilodeau3785 A stage 1 gti should be as fast as a stock N def, maybe it wasn't tuned properly or something. But any vw car with 300hp is faster than the N but yeah they are more expensive of course

@patrickbilodeau3785

Жыл бұрын

@@evaristocorripio5434 I went with Unitronic which considered conservative. Probably around 270WHP. I didn't want to overwhelm the clutch. My Elantra N definitely feels faster than my GTI.

These gti owners don’t want to accept the Gti ran a slower time than the WRX and the EN ran a full second faster in the race than the Gti based off its best time during the WRX video LOL

The driver of N did not launch it properly. You need to tap the gas pedal rather than floor it.

@tenkayruanaya2554

Жыл бұрын

we all know the elantra N is faster ..

@davothegreat9990

Жыл бұрын

@@tenkayruanaya2554 it is but not that much. Both are great but I wouldnt buy either.

@zxmurph1

Жыл бұрын

huh? you definitely do need to floor it quickly, and if not quickly enough, it doesn't go into launch mode. This is as per both the owner's manual and instructional video from H

@dubber4life

Жыл бұрын

No you don’t tap the gas, you mash down hard on the break then mash the accelerator all the way down. If it doesn’t initiate let off the gas then mash again, but quickly. I have an EN fyi

Elantra N beat Golf GTi by 1.5 second on your autocross test, but it pulled less G in this course? I just feel like you guys messed up the launch and cornering.

@mattsmith7379

2 ай бұрын

Just face the facts. The hyundai is not as fast as they claim it to be

@mattsmith7379

2 ай бұрын

And the GTI is $5000 cheaper than that Hyundai. And put that 5K towards upgrades for the GTI and the Hyundai even upgraded will never touch the GTI.

@racesuey

2 ай бұрын

@@mattsmith7379 GTI is 32k and Elantra N is 33k. Also, 32k gti doesn't even have LSD and electronic dampers. You are delusional

All those other videos of N gapping the gti is false ..THIS Is how it goes down

I have heard that some German makers have underrated their hp figures. I recall that Mazda did that with their turbo in the 90's. And some folks say that the Type R is underrated.

Did you guys have the strip rented for like 30 minutes? Let’s do a proper race/redo with launch control and some run averages.

Looking forward to to a Type R versus Corolla GR

In the U drag race with the wrx the elantra n did a 37.6 pass

Ya something is off on this Elantra N. On your other U drag video N vs WRX the N did 37.6 sec... hmmm🤔🤔.

LOL He really did a Fast & Furious "save the spray for the return" in using the "N" boost button lol

VW GTI !

I am shocked it was that close after the difference in your auto cross comparison

@roboticvenom1935

Жыл бұрын

They put real tires on the GTI to make it apples to apples. Otherwise the Elantra N has the BEST street tires(pilots sport 4s) and the GTI has trash all seasons

Very surprised to see the VW Golf GTI winning, I wasn't expecting that to happen😳

Dang!! That body goes Bump, Bump, Bump!!! (3 Bumps)

Glad I have a GTI :). and its easy to shut off traction control.. you dont need to go through all the menus to get there. there are short cuts.. would be cool if you reviewers learned that stuff before complaining.

It's funny how much more expensive the GTI is in Australia, as compared to the Cheaper Hyundai (Here) No comprimise the GTI's EA888 Engine will have much more aftermarket potential than the Elantra, But that's not taking away how far Hyundai has stepped up over the last few years.