Do you think Tyranitar is too broken right now?

@superdubdub

Ай бұрын

It’s definitely strong, and yes is even better in uncoordinated pub games

@amitayuhazra2258

Ай бұрын

Yep.... every game I am getting 150k damage min and last day 267k max holy moly😮

@AbdulHadi-su9qi

Ай бұрын

yes, to the point where it's constantly banned in rank😢

@FenriuShieda

Ай бұрын

Not a big deal considering in master rank with draft you never play against or with tyranitar. Also this game had a lot of strong mages to counter him

@Oliver-uz1fs

Ай бұрын

Yes in solo, not THAT much in trio, still strong but still managed

i mean, if the character is a "noob stomper" it should be considered op in pokemon unite with its player base

@Harsh_VS

Ай бұрын

😂

@chapapa-papa

Ай бұрын

Underrated comment

@Hugo-yz1vb

Ай бұрын

You won the internet today

@Jfernandez02

Ай бұрын

True, I'm the noob

@Hugo-yz1vb

Ай бұрын

@@Jfernandez02 Deserved. Absolutely deserved.

“Yeah guys, a 1.5 second stun on sand tomb that also slows you down and makes escape almost impossible from a tanky beast that wipes you entire HP bar in seconds, ignoring shields, is totally balanced”

@Gatchu137

Ай бұрын

As opposed to the 1 second stun that Sand Tomb had when it was bad? That said, I wouldn't care if they reverted the stun duration, since most of Ttar's buffs were from the casting speed. Increased stun just makes it less fun for everyone.

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

yes it's almost like it wasn't the exact same thing barring half a second of stun

@AntiStreamlabs

Ай бұрын

@@Gatchu137 All it really does is just amplify the movement speed buff more. Not that the half second was game breaking or anything but it just adds to make it just that little more impossible to playa against

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

@@AntiStreamlabs what you're inferring was that it was broken before too.

@AntiStreamlabs

Ай бұрын

@@ayncell0 No, I very clearly stated that it just slightly pushes the BUFF T-tar was fine before it got that buff, mainly, in my opinion, the movement speed change on sand tomb

Tyranitar in a duo or a trio playing as solo player feel so impossible especially if they gonna play an healer on top of it. 88% banned on draft last week says everything.

@Hampter492

Ай бұрын

Literally we see all that Tyranitar get in every draft, so I think his ban rate will be higher than 88,23%.

I main Tyranitar and even I know he's broken. Why they made the stun on sand tomb last longer is beyond me

"but whenever i play ttar lane, i always lose, so therefore it must be not as op as eveyone says it is righttt???"

@Oliver-uz1fs

Ай бұрын

I've had much more success with lane ttar than jg ttar in solo at least lol

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

you're supposed to play it lane.

@Oliver-uz1fs

Ай бұрын

@@ayncell0 take lane with an exp share sup/tank and a strong level 5 jungler, once you get ganked, you switch lanes to get 9 at bot regi

@j_r28

Ай бұрын

No lane ttar is not the problem, teammates are problem. I always end up doing 30+% of my team damage no matter what. But I lose mostly because of my team, because I'm doing my job.

@diegoperezsommariva2509

Ай бұрын

​@@ayncell0jungle ttar is great still. With muslce, razor and focus band. Lane is also good. But it can be less consistent in my opinion, as it depends on the ability of laners more.

Ttar was fine without the buffs, all timi had to do was speed up the attack speed of stone edge, he didn't need a buff to sand tomb, he didn't need more health, he didn't need more defenses. Leave tyranitar alone the way he was before. Now timi is going to nerf the poor pokemon to oblivion and make him worse than when he started

@Saujas

25 күн бұрын

I wish that happens soon That beast has given whole lot of ptsd

One of the things ppl don't realize that make Tyranitar beyond broken is that the current metagame relies on shields more than sustain for survivability. You buff the Pokémon with the ability to ignore shields at all times in a game reliant on shields and it will always create a mess (See: Rapid Strike Urshifu)

Yeah, he is quite quite strong right now, I've always used the sand toomb + stone edge build cuz its so fun and its very tanky with the multiple passive procs, and I've always done really good, but damm, it didn't use to hit this hard

As a dedicated TTar main, I'm really passionate about this Pokémon, but the recent buffs feel excessive. Many who claim TTar is easy to counter likely haven't faced a skilled player who adapts their build and moveset based on the matchup. Plus, the "bully him early" strategy is completely ineffective due to the ridiculously forgiving comeback EXP system TiMi created. Good job on that, TiMi.

To be fair the enemy team kept jumping directly into Ttar's mouth hole over and over

@diegoperezsommariva2509

Ай бұрын

Thats one of the main factors in its win rate imo.

@deraelevans222

Ай бұрын

He also had wish umbreon and was able to get jungle making it seem like this is the average ttar experience

@Agilepickleunite

Ай бұрын

Yeah I wish I could get fed as ttar they all run perpetually

@nazra1127

Ай бұрын

​@@deraelevans222 yeah average ttar experience is just decent, I guess

@Ueiwbwowheoeho

Ай бұрын

I played with a team (zacian, dragapult, Mewtwo x, Pikachu, blaistoise) and the tyranitar 1v1d in our goal without backup. We were all full health. He came with a regieleki. I managed to escape but everyone else died.

If you look at the winrates, it’s the sand tomb builds that are dominating while ancient power builds are doing just fine. I wouldn’t mind sand tomb nerfs as I like playing ancient power more anyways, the uptime is kind of ridiculous considering all it does (slow, damage reduction, true damage).

I played lot of tyranitar before the buff and felt like a weight on my team, now it doesn't feel like it's needed on every team but it is really good just wish if they nerf they don't do it too much so it was bad like before

i feel like even when i lose lane as ttar and evolve late i still get a triple kill late game onc i reach level 11/12 and even if you do manage to kite/ escape the ttar first since it has insane bulk you need many rotation to kill it pretty sure the sylveon here would need 3/4 full duration hyper voice to kill you during that time you have numerous opportunity to hit the tombs and heavily damage it or leave and if you have a speedster to deal with the pesky attacker its basically gg

Once I saw the buffs, I got tempted to buy it for 14k coins, but then I realized it's almost always gonna be banned anyway. Also I honestly didn't remember that the Sand Tomb stun was made longer.

As much i hate to say it as a ttar main ... But sandtomb stun duration is bit too much... Combined with slowness is a deadly buff.. but i dont want it to be gutted hard .. it used to be so hard playing with it .. I still feel stone edge is good now and should be untouched.. Best counter for ttar is a9 , mamo, slowbro, machamp, lucario

People dont play around sand tomb tbf, no one tries to actually dodge the stun, players are so bad they dont even react, the moveset has a lot of counterplay but players are bad and cause hes banned so much itll take even longer for them to learn. it needs its stun nerfed but they do not need to massively nerf tyranitar or he will just be overnerfed

@dave9515

Ай бұрын

Ttar still gets countered by a good team comp. In comp he will still be seen as a joke pick no doubt. Early evos are becoming more and more common with solid game states early to end. Balance is super wack in general. Like you said they don't even try and one mentioned mathcord making a doc and still chose to ignore it cause oh if i get hit by the sandtomb i die. Sad to see the playerbase still choose to not learn matchups and how the game works.

As soon as i heard "fire spin delphox" i knew this was pointed at spragels. 😂

There is a reason why Gardevoir is top 9th pick last week as well as this week. She is one of the best counters to Tyranitar right now and people are finally realizing it. Even though I’ve always known

@lguy8476

Ай бұрын

I think Garde is just good in general and not necessarily a Ttar counter honestly or at least the best one. Ancient power ttar can ignore CC, Sand tomb still gets the lunge when CCd, it has a lot of flexibility to run items like eject/full heal/X speed, with its natural bulk (especially combod with a support), etc Garde does have high damage and carry potential with one of the best unite moves. It's also cheap, straightforward, and has seen a lot of competitive play after its unite move buffs as one of the best combo mons with defenders like Crustle, Umbreon mean look Snorlax, CC mons like Wiggly/Sableye/Mime/.., etc

@goatku5876

Ай бұрын

In my opinion Delphox(mystical fire+flame charge) is better counter to ttar as it provides sufficient range and mobility to co counter ttar

@DarkGaming-cb3dd

Ай бұрын

In my opinion A9 is suitable candidate for ttar counters.

@Hugo-yz1vb

Ай бұрын

​@@goatku5876 Not to mention it's more fun to use than Fire Spin

It's not op, but in solo q it can be a pain to deal with especially with teammates feeding. So I just ban it. It's the most annoying mon to deal with post level 9.

@11inch41

Ай бұрын

"it's not op" yet you ban him, ok.

Everyone says it does to much damage but it never got a buff in it’s damage 😊

Honestly, with Gardevoir moonblast I hope the enemies have a TTar.

I feel like Tyranitar is actually broken but he is not God Tier broken(little bit less than release Tyranitar). He deserves to be broken at least right this time(before the new balance change arrives) due to the fact that this mon is played rarely. After I found out that I win games much more often with Stone Edge/Sand Tomb, I stopped playing it. I feel like its not hard to balance this mon. Maybe just an increase in Sand Tomb CD(2 sec increase might make a change) might make it much less broken but if that doesn't work then Sand Tomb by itself may need nerfs. Stone Edge, in my opinion, shouldn't be touched because its right now the only good way for Ttar to lane. So, changing this move might be tricky.

I like these videos so much more than just gameplay itself. Love the commentary, keeps me engaged all the way through

Somebody said it's a placebo effect though.... 🤔

1.5 seconds stunt in a 10-minute game is insane.

Always remember that Oppression is the best Protection. Side tangent: Use Earthquake on Mamoswine more. The 2s stun is worth what you lose in mobility and pushing away opponents. Plus, they're not going to be able to threaten your team if they're vulnerable in the line of fire for 2 seconds too many.

I think all they really need to do is revert the sand tomb stun back to 1 second. Since theyll never get rid of the true damage mechanic, he should just do BONUS damage to shields not ignore them, but they wont do that i dont think hes as broken as youre making it out, but still needs a nerf

Ttar is mostly broken when he got a healing support

I had a rotten apple tyra yesterday and he carried the game with 100k+ damage(1600 masters)

stone edge insta cast is the REAL broken stuff, you dont expect the burst damage you receive when tyranitar just sand tomb jump you and get stun by 1.5 seg, also you can flip objetives by yourself thanks of that damage

It’s the same people that thought Zacian wasn’t broken. « Just kite it » lmao

@Agilepickleunite

Ай бұрын

Nah pre nerf zacian would eat this thing for breakfast

@mxb55

Ай бұрын

@@Agilepickleunite Its not what im saying, im just saying people had the same stupid argument

@sleeper9550

Ай бұрын

​@@Agilepickleunite bruh pre nerf ttar would eat pre nerf zacian for breakfast as well 😂 I remember it used to do like 2k crit damage

@classiccal5741

Ай бұрын

@@mxb55people rarely defended zacian this way when it got released. The main defence for zacian was people going “well if it’s broken I’m going to use it. It’s not my fault I’m abusing this”. Now mime defenders after the rework. THEY were on some next level bs

@paulcharles2532

22 күн бұрын

The difference is zacian was free wins and broken ttar has so much counter play unlike zacian did and countering ttar isn’t hard. Ttar is definitely not broken

when i paly with ttar i usually use unite-sandtomb-fullheal-stoneedge-basics

i guess they could revert every change except stone edge buff. Then it could feel better and hopefully one of my mains is not banned litteraly every game. I would rather take pre buff tyranitar because that way I could atleast play. This is one of the things I don't like about draft. I am not playing to win a tournament I am playing to have fun. The long preparation time in draft coupled with a pokemon I like so much being unable to be played cus of the ban system really makes it dull. Thankfully charizard is my other main which no one bans.

Also he’s the only all rounder that can defend goal zones on his own , if that doesn’t say a lot idk what will

I still dont think it is broken. You can invade him, bully him, make him miserable and make Ttar remain as pupitar on the half of the game, you can cast against him, you can stun him, you can run from him and play around Ttar, and if this is not good enough, there's many pokemon that can counter him. And this particular game is not a very good showcase, because you team is insanely op and has great sinergy with each other: Eldegoss gives shield, heals and buff resistence, Umbreon buff the resistence, heals and stop one target from moving and run away, gardevoir poke them (something that mean look has trapped), decidueye dps and poke them (also the ones mean look trapped), and tyranitar jumps on their head and stomp them (guess who he jumpson???? The one who mean look has trapped), and on top of that, tyranitar receives more buffs on defense and more heal from two other pokemons. Now you're playing against who???? GROUND GARCHOMP????? TALONFLAME??? SYLVEON???? And Surf Slowbro, and Blissey that's ok.

we matched into a japanese lobby they left ttar for us and we took it , they picked sylveon top and espeon jungle and those two completley smoked the early game we had no way to kill a sylve hoopa early game, still ended up winning cuz the ttar got espeon's KO once and was able to reach leve 13, end team fight we won after being down 300-100 i think. that was the only game I think you would come close to losing with ttar if its left open in draft pick.. its way too broken .

It’s what happens when something is top tier in any game all of the apologists come out of the woodworks. It happened with Mew, Dodrio, Venusaur, etc. It’s even worse with Unite ‘cause you know how unaware the player base is.

Every time there is an incredibly OP pokemon, people come out with the same tired arguments. i.e. "kite it with attackers, then stop it with CC and burst it down with speedsters" etc. okay that's great. What do you think the enemy team's 4 other pokemon are doing while your entire team is focused on stopping Ttar? Are they just waiting for you to finish, you think?

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

hey how about instead of flipping out over ttar you get their teammates first? Not sure why "don't fight ttar first" (though not really your fault) went over many heads

@ChrisStavros

Ай бұрын

This same cycle has been happening since Tsareena released and could just 1v5 the whole enemy team by herself. I've heard all these arguments before. "Just strategically pick off their whole team and then coordinate and CC and burst down Tsareena/Ttar/whatever". You hear yourself saying this shit, and you don't realize it's overpowered??

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisStavros one of them has an early game, good unite, insane mobility, and healing.

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisStavros yes ttar is overpowered, but not the type or to the extent that everyone says it is

@paulcharles2532

22 күн бұрын

@@ChrisStavrosand this is the type of player I try to avoid. The people who don’t know how to play around ttar so say it’s broken just cuz they can’t do it. Newsflash it’s not broken u just aren’t good enough to realize

Sand Tomb is absolutely broken Stone edge is really good but sand tomb got way overbuffed, its hard to outrun and the true damage boost is way too much from sand tomb

Yeah trying poke lets us stomp into engage with a stun. Not fighting lets us hog experience. With a strong early kit and busted late game its a strong pokemon. Items: muscle band/ razor claw/ focus band. Prefer potion over eject as TTar has a dash before and after evolution. Helps stay tanky too

I always thought its a placebo , but not quite sure myself anymore

If you want me tell you reasons why Tyranitar is broken, I can talk straight for 20 minutes or more, no bs

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

ok

@XParasiteOctoling

Ай бұрын

Go ahead and rant, I’ll read all of it

@diegoperezsommariva2509

Ай бұрын

Please do. Most people cant point out a single thing why is he broken besides pointing at the stats.

@PokemonTrainerMario

Ай бұрын

He's definitely broken. These Tyranitar mains in the replies are mad 😂

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

@@PokemonTrainerMario so how about you take up op's slack?

you see, those ttar requests from months ago were paying off with those sets

It's too broken. The true damage is just so good.

@Hampter492

Ай бұрын

So you deal more than 100k damage in every single match. It's better if you use fuel heal instead eject botton, because trevenant has highest pick rate, so he can push you out of the sand tomb, use fuel heal what I always use that battle item.

@zenithez9074

22 күн бұрын

its not broken but true damage is extremely good to just ignore shields like that

These commentaries on his own games are great, get to learn so much more while self-reflecting.

He's not broken As a tyranotar main I'll give you a secret Tho this will make it harder for me to play, fuck it it's more fun this way Tyranotars biggest weakness is ranged attackers with teleports/ dodges He's melee with ok range Just stay out of his range, jump away, use walls, dash through walls and blast him If you fight him closely, you die If you try to stay in his sand tumb, you die If you don't have dashes/butten you die Fight him in the open in jumping range, you die There you go. Keep distance Use walls Stun lock And finally git gud

@embernodebeef

Ай бұрын

YOU KNOW WHAT IS BROKEN CINDARACE 2 SECONDS KILLER DYSIDUEYE BLASTER ZORARK EARLY GAME KILLER ALL EEVEES BROKEN DRAGOPULT SHREDDER GOODRA UNDYING GARADOSE 3 SHOT GAME ENDDER BLASTOISE BREAKER GARDIVORE CHEATING STUNLOCK ONE TAP BE REAL TYRANOTAR NEEDED A BUFF BUFF EM AGAIN TOO! MORE HEALTH

@Browlet540

Ай бұрын

​@@embernodebeefdecidueye killer? More like decidueye killed

@i_ntel

Ай бұрын

Stop being delusional lol

Tyraniter is broken as hell, I was playing tree and I fought tyraniter for like 15 seconds I was low and he was low when we started ( I was level 11 he was like 13 ) was trying to stop him from ripping ray and for my team to respawn he killed mee then killed scizor and greninja who had respawned ..

To me the buff that was unnecesary was the stun bufff. It should stun for less. 1sec at most.

@Agilepickleunite

Ай бұрын

I mean blastoise can stun for 5 whole seconds

@diegoperezsommariva2509

Ай бұрын

@@Agilepickleunite yeah but its damage its not close to ttars damage.

@pedropedromeh6271

Ай бұрын

Blud, it's literally his job​@@Agilepickleunite

Cinderace is crazy good against him....but only for good players that can keep distance

Ttar comfey sweet kiss is disgustingly so fun. Sweet kiss pulls everyone into sandtomb

Hey Cris, do you think Ancient Power + dark pulse is also good or is it still mid?

ttar + comfey game over for the opposition early game the opposition gets some chance but late game gg and you cant ban if you play in mobile so every time there is a ttar in the opposite team

There are good counters to ttar. I think some people want to just vent, which is understandable. Dragonite is a solid counter. I was a level 14 or 15 ttar and got solo killed by a Dragonite. Not sure what his build was, but it was surprising how fast I died. Maybe it was outrage? I think Azumarill is another good counter with play rough invincibility and guaranteed crit rate/damage in a 1v1. Slowbro unite move is always a strong counter. Hardcore saved his team the Ray fight by using his unite move on me outside of the Ray pit and securing Ray for his team. There are counters, even if not many, and draft mode makes it so you can almost always ban it. But I get that it’s not the most fun to play against.

@enrithomas7194

Ай бұрын

The Dragonite and the Azumarill were just too good or you are just incredibly bad to lose at that specific point of the game.

@jebusauriorets

Ай бұрын

Play rough azumarill counters ttar folks, you heard it first

It got like 6 or 7 buff untill now big one is this patch and it ability to lifesteal with true dmg. Also ttar before this patch never have burst dmg buff make it too good it all spot

nice build!

I literally play cookie and guard with a +500HP white emblem page. My only attack item is weight and I'm still taking over games. That shouldn't be a thing 😅

So which is op and best solo queue Pokemon

He really isnt his counters are still right there and shut him down massively along with being able to bully him early

Tyranitar with defense built is dangerous

"People dont know how to play against it" well for most pokemon you literally cant 😂😂😂

@i_ntel

Ай бұрын

Even defenders struggle it’s actually sad …

@DexMasteur

Ай бұрын

​@@i_ntelTrue damage is a Tank Shredder. Tyranitar is a nightmare to all Melees

@diegoperezsommariva2509

Ай бұрын

​@@i_ntelslowbro does a good job against it though.

@PokemonTrainerMario

Ай бұрын

​@@diegoperezsommariva2509No he doesn't, stop spreading lies just because you're a Tyranitar main.

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

@@PokemonTrainerMario there's this thing called "slowbeam," ever heard of it?

I feel like the only legit counter ttar is trevenant just because he’s so omega strong and is one of the only characters that utilizes hp recovery instead of shields and has so much cc. Not to mention painsplit hurts ttar like hell if you do go that build

You were playing at to in tha night 2:15 am yesterday . Did you take tha Inteleon player there was a gold batch .

@Pikachuop558

Ай бұрын

Reply now bro

it definitely depends on the user. we carried one who jungled and just fed the entire game. he was our lowest leveled and 2nd lowest damage dealt by the end. my decidueye and our pikachu did more damage than them lol.

I think the buffs made it too consistent, so I do believe they should nerf the defense stats late game especially it’s passive being a massive problem as well.

But Cris i have seen you kite it quite well in other videos ...

This is a horrible example the enemies team comp was perfect for a ttar game. Talonflame,Garchomp,chansey,slowbro & Sylveon of course ttar would look op against that. Plus they were also running right to you smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

To be fair this was gameplay vs talonflame and garchomp

Sand tomb stun is Unnecessary like most of the stuns in the game. I'm happy with stone edge changes.

It is usually banned in draft mode. XD

I did 152k damege on my first ttar game

I think the bad level of general playerbase + ttar is good itself amplies the situation

Tyranitar is difficult to counter, but it first need to get there.

I said he was good when he first came out. I always go with the non conventional movesets. Stone edge was so slow you could run away from it. Espeon stored power was good to me but lacked damage. I feel like if the buff all the mons just right the game state would be a little better besides some of the players. Machamp needs some love, charizard needs some love. I cant think of any other mons that need some love that wont make them too overpowered.

After certain characters were previously nerfed, the playerbase is mostly biased. Then again, the cc is the major issue. The one's who constantly complain about eeveelutions(as they're clearly biased to an extreme to only them), the same way they'll always complain about certain characters who are either overtuned or downright too slippery or tanky because they cannot find ways to adapt to it. I don't technically find ttar op, i don't have much of an issue against it, but gyarados is a different story

@dave9515

Ай бұрын

Gyrados is like having built in hax with how buffed he is imo. I don't know how the gyrados mains even get the mon killed cause for an all rounder it shreds everything with ease and has some insane movement options. A good gyrados is nightmare fuel while a good ttar is just tough to fight if they have a supportive team but nothing more than that and early evo comps still dominate more.

@TheUnscathedFairy

Ай бұрын

It clearly gotten a slap on the wrist with that unite move cd increase. Kinda wish there was a bit more than that.

Going against Tyranitar in blind pick while I just so happen to play a melee feels so awful

@UltimateRaven

Ай бұрын

Except there was a moment where I played Metagross blind pick against a Tyranitar. It would've been a nightmare but luckily that enemy Tyranitar player AFK'd which made me laugh and helped my team stomp the game and make the enemy surrender. It was actually funny.

It’s very broken right now

Agree, but "Trevnant" is a better counter for this..

I feel useless as a tank when I have a ttar teammate 😭 it can survive more hits than me and also fight back

@HI-ho4bj

Ай бұрын

Try Highhorsepower Mamoswine to remove ttar from sand tomb zone.

Spragels been real quiet since you dropped this

yeah because that gameplay he has an eldegoss and umbreon

I dont know about ttar. Mons like delphox shut him down hard

It’s so busted. I know Spragels has toned down and dialed back his placebo effect bs, but he still hasn’t accepted that it’s not just a noob stomper. He’s crazy.

Ttar has the highest WR for a reason rn

Everyone says people suck at playing against Tyranitar but what they never say is that people are just as bad at supporting too. I can't count all the games I tried to play Tyranitar and the oafs on my team picked crap like late game 3 stage ADCs with no XP Shares on the lane or other late game all Rounders. The reality is that a lot of Tyranitar counterplay only works when your team gets to focus it and the rest of its team puts on no pressure. The second Tyranitar's team actually starts to *work* with it, it becomes unstoppable. Like your team just waddled around with you and the enemy team was screwed.

Yeah that winrate on Uniteapi that surpasses peak Mewtwo Y doesn't look like the traditional noob stomper ttar has been, also iron head/ no retreat Falinx has a 58.73% winrate ?????

@ayncell0

Ай бұрын

because everyone forgot how to play against ttar

@kooch1938

Ай бұрын

The reason the winrate is also so high is because it gets banned a lot, leaving less variance in games.

@setk1189

Ай бұрын

@@kooch1938 this is true, and I suppose in m2y meta we still had mirror matches on the table, whereas now we don't

I don't think it is that OP tbh. The buffs were not THAT large and it received no buff to its damage. It has always been a late game mon. They just made the early game a little easier with the little extra def/sp def/hp. It doesn't need the sand build to do the things you did with it. You also had 2 healers, no? Elde and Wish Umbreon, so....there's that.

It’s annoying in team fights. That’s about it.

no its not broken,zacian/mewtwo were broken, trevenant is still broken,you can kite ttar easily, i kite enemies almost every game,just be aware of your positioning & play around your defenders/all rounders

I love Ttar his my favorite pokemon to play after tsareena I hope when they nerf him they don't gut him

@user-nz7hl9jr9f

Ай бұрын

Maybe decreasin damage is better But i think it should evolve at lvl7

@Hampter492

Ай бұрын

​@@user-nz7hl9jr9f I agree, because teammates always steal farm of Pupitar.

I believe is op, but people also just doesn't know how to play against it

TTar right now is what Metagross was when they overbuffed him just pure god tier. Something you play if you want a garunteed win and an easy game for your self.

I just don't want them to nerf stone edge 😂 first time it's actually been good

In a vacuum, Ttar is fine, but Unite is a team game. The utilty Ttar provides the team to secure kills and win team fights outweighs the solo capabilities of the Pokemon.

I think tyranitar should be really strong though. Not in the ex pokemon sense, like "these special pokemon should be better than the whole roster." But it's not really good at all until 9. Like it's not completely unusable, and as you demonstrated you can usually get there within 3-4 minutes, but until you hit that power spike you'll be outclassed by everything. And considering most matches are determined by who wins the ray fight, doesn't it make sense that a late game sweeper would have a high win rate? This is at least better than the Eevee meta. With how snow bally games can be, they got great early and remained dominant even into the late game. If they nerfed tyranitar and he was only decent in the late game, why deal with the leveling curve? If say garchomp and tyranitar were about as strong at level 9, why play tyranitar? Garchomp is so much better early game, it makes no sense to pick something that sucks for the first 3 minutes if it's only going to be on par with the rest of the cast after. Maybe it needs some minor nerfs, I don't know I'm not a game dev. You can make larvitar bad, you can make pupitar bad, but if tyranitar isn't better than the majority of mons, that's just antithetical to its design. If that's unfair, fine I guess, but at that point you should give it a 5-7 evolution, or at least give it its second move at 7. Personally, I like its design. Useless for a while but then just a monster in the second half. It's a lot of fun and I think it's unique, other than Gyarados there aren't that many other pokemon that fill that role. I just don't want it gutted, I love tyranitar and I'm glad it's finally good

same thought lol i kept seeing the mathcord nerds say ttar isn't broken and they kept saying just kite it ...lmao ttar is my 2nd most played mon in this game and i say goodluck with that, bully it early? i say that's even more irrelevant at rayfight when i can even wiped out a team of lv14s when im only at lv12 at the start of rayfight

@ayncell0

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yeah unfortunately you didn't tell how the mathcord nerds were wrong

@apersoniguesslol

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then you should've seen mathcord evochron's doc detailing every single pokemon's matchup into ttar and how to counter it.

@ruiavalon3122

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@@apersoniguesslol yeah I've seen it and i find it still irrelevant get stunned by sandtomb and thats it ur dead by the follow up stone edge combo evochron's docs "only" works if everything came out the way u want them to he said A9 veil is a hard counter for ttar yes that is the case for when ur not the target just one stun from sandtomb and there goes ur hard counter dead same situation with the other alleged counters in his docs a smart ttar would know when to time his jump ,would u as a ttar jump in on buzzwole knowing his moves are still up .. of course not lol only noobs jump in a buzzwole at first sight if ur patient and timed ur sandtomb right that "supposedly effective counter to ttar is dead with just one sandtomb combo" the only one that i agree on that docs of evochron is falinks u cant one kill combo the guy unless ur 2lvls ahead of it even at full 6 stack weight unless the falinks is an idiot it'll just jump away before his ded... another thing to add is sandtomb combined with eject makes any attempt of kiting futile

Definitely specially with someone playing duo or trio Q If i see two people with the same initial name i ban Tyranitar and suggest to ban Comfey/Blissey

My biggest flex is never banning ttar

I don't know why they hate on T- Tar the amount of games I've started poorly and ended with a huge comeback with him shows to me that a very good T-Tar player can be a menace

I see ttar amd i just bully it all game until it hits 9. Jungle invade, or gank where the ttar is. Dont break goals and starve him of exp. Im not saying its balanced. Im saying the best ways to deal with him require more than 1 brain cell which most of this player base does not have