Very enjoyable presentation.

In the late '80s to early '90s, I was in college and became interested in creating Vietnamese fonts. I did quite a bit of research at the time and experimented with PostScript and various font encodings.

@marksimonson74

3 күн бұрын

That must have been tricky in the pre-Unicode days.

@ChopsticksDIYGarden

2 күн бұрын

@@marksimonson74 Yes, it was tricky, especially since different groups tried to create their own encodings. We had VISCII, TCVN3, VIQR, VNI, and so on. Fortunately, UTF-8 gained popularity and is widely used today. The downside is that some people still use VNI fonts with UTF-8 encoding and wonder why the fonts don't look right. Hopefully, the VNI fonts will eventually go away as new fonts are likely to be UTF-8.

This is gold, thanks Mark!

Important work to share the history of digital type especially from someone who experienced it! Thanks so much!

This was great Mark, thanks for sharing

Memories. I had a Mac Plus with an acelerator card put in it (doubling the clock speed), but then I had to buy a Kensington Macsaver fan that slotted on top to keep it cool.

@marksimonson74

20 күн бұрын

I had a "fan hat" for mine at some point for the same reason. Not the most elegant look.

@qwe1231

20 күн бұрын

@@marksimonson74 When I later upgraded to a Duo 230 (with a DuoDock) I was chagrined to see that the processor in my NEC Silentwriter laser printer used the same chip as the Mac laptop, but with twice the clockspeed. I marvel at how I got real work done back then.

@marksimonson74

20 күн бұрын

@@qwe1231 I had a Duo 230 and DuoDock as well. 🙂

Thnk you so so mutchhhhh :)

Wow, this is amazing! And I thought FontLab 5 was a nightmare :P

Where's Papyrus?

@marksimonson74

10 күн бұрын

Pre-Papyrus. But you could get it in Letraset transfer lettering.

@tub8r

10 күн бұрын

Thank you for entertaining my semi-joking question. But Papyrus was released (incl. Letraset transfer sheets) around 85-87. And I was thinking one could've used those transfer sheets as facsimile for tracing fonts like you demoed. Of course before the major inclusion of Papyrus in MS Office font pack at the turn of the century nobody knew or cared about it. With this desktop publishing and type creation explosion like you've illustrated there were so many interesting options at the time.

@sideburn

6 күн бұрын

Everywhere 😂

The Atari 8-bit computers can display multiple character sets at a given time through the use of Display List Interrupts, though each character set takes 1 KB (128 8×8 glyphs), you can't change them mid-line, and the Atari 800 originally only had 8 KB of RAM (it was later expanded to 48 KB; later Atari 8-bit models had more RAM).

@marksimonson74

18 күн бұрын

Yeah, I'm well aware of that, but I didn't want to get off in the weeds, given the audience. Technically speaking, you _could_ do arbitrarily positioned bitmap text with different fonts, sizes and styles on other computers at the time in a particular program, but it wasn't the default state of the computer the way it was on the Mac. Later there were things like Windows and GEOS, of course. I remember there was a T: display driver for the Atari that did this to some extent, but at the cost of speed and memory.

Flying Toasters: 0:10

@marksimonson74

16 күн бұрын

I wondered if anyone would notice. On hindsight, I should have used the Flying Toasters as a background on the title screen. It popped up on the projector screen before the talk and got a lot of comments and laughs from the attendees.

@sideburn

16 күн бұрын

@@marksimonson74 haha can’t go wrong with giant flying toasters!

@sideburn

16 күн бұрын

Also amazing you had those photos from the 80s

wait a minute, the magazine blurb 10 minutes in was written by Marc Benioff?

@marksimonson74

16 күн бұрын

That's weird. I never noticed. He would have been in college. Seems possible. FWIW, he's not listed as a regular contributing writer or editor in the magazine.