You were right in the last one. This is more like primal zerg than dragons. But a neat race just the same

Hi there, author of the Dragon Mod here. I haven't played starcraft in years but it is really cool to see this casted. The Dragon race isn't actually meant to be literal European dragons, and they aren't meant to be primal Zerg. When I made the mod years there weren't very many good or cohesive unit models out there. Dragons do have a cliff jumper, so that was wise. That first engagement was actually won by the horned magus, which have "Fire Shield" which gives armor to the target and has AoE damage around it kind of like (but was added before) parasitic bomb. It also makes you immune to the damage of other Fire Shields. It seems like each fight the Dragon player has much more army cost going into the early engagements and I believe had 3/3 at the end with a bunch of basically "ground battlecruisers".

@ElleixGaming

9 ай бұрын

Man I’m stoked you found the videos! The mod turned out awesome. What was the inspiration behind it? And do you work on modding in any other games?

@wesorwell3655

9 ай бұрын

@@ElleixGaming Added a bit on another video, I imagined the race as creatures from deep beneath the earth that could carve through stone with their claws and melt it with fire. Dragons fit that well enough, and I used the models I had available. I made a custom game in Starcraft called Project RUST which was my real passion project, but I stopped all that when real life happened and I graduated college. LotV did some damage to my maps/mods, so if there are any in game bugs I may be able to fix them or do some balance tweaks as the game honestly wasn't popular enough to play due to the matchmaking system of custom games at the time. Berserkers were originally called Ravagers before those were a thing which... resulted in you building zerg ravagers.

@tiancheng8549

9 ай бұрын

@@wesorwell3655 Hi there, if you have time to make balance patches, I suggest that most of the dragon late game units are underpowered and need some buff. The detector unit is really hard to get to, it is slow, and its ability is too hard to work. Their composition is really strong against small unit but weak against large size unit.

@theduke3778

9 ай бұрын

Do you ever plan on going back and working on the Dragon's faction a little more?

@wesorwell3655

9 ай бұрын

@@theduke3778 Unlikely that I will touch it again, I made it during Heart of the Swarm and real life is currently kicking my ass. If there was some community page of requested balance changes/fixes I would bang it out on one of my vacations.

The stuff sliding is a replay bug. It’s very rare but it seems to ONLY affect the primal zergling. It's just a replay thing. The same thing can happen to things like Ultras and Nova (who just T-poses in replays)

@ElleixGaming

9 ай бұрын

I’ll be honest casting or playing a game with t-posting unit models would be hilarious

Dragons casually melting the Keiron army in 5 seconds

@ElleixGaming

9 ай бұрын

💀 I can imagine getting balance down between two would be difficult. The dragons seem insane lmao

This was an awesome video! I wish I could watch a 3v3 or a 4v4 with the custom races enabled.

@ElleixGaming

9 ай бұрын

I’m glad you enjoyed it! I have a couple games in my queue that feature some 2v2 modded StarCraft games, but they’re harder to come by for sure

units for dragons are kinda cute ngl

I like the Dragon race but I hope it does not replace the primal zerg race.

@slavakislov3675

9 ай бұрын

it will not replace, dragons was implemented by other guy, not Solstice. But the author is not maintaining them AFAIK.

@tiancheng8549

8 ай бұрын

@@slavakislov3675 I hope he makes berserker a large unit though. It clearly does not look like a light unit. It may be better to make hunter a light unit.

@wesorwell3655

8 ай бұрын

@@tiancheng8549 Please don't change that, the Berserker's armor is light so it doesn't explode to marauders and other Anti-Armor attacks like siege tanks and immortals. They would be useless.

@tiancheng8549

8 ай бұрын

@@wesorwell3655 It is currently useless because it has very little stats on it. Put more stats on it and it may be more useful. I am thinking that it should be armored because visually it is hard to relate it to light unit, although I agree that there is no anti-siege tank stuff in the current dragon race.

@wesorwell3655

8 ай бұрын

@@tiancheng8549 It has no armor plating on the outside. Making it armored is a direct nerf because it would take more damage from marauders, immortals, stalkers, siege tanks, flamespitters, you name it. You may be right that it has too little HP, but being armored is a terrible idea because it would make it far weaker. Things that do bonus damage to light units typically have terrible damage per second.

I think the bugged frozen animations is only in replays, ive seen some similar things in other mods where their animations work ingame but not in replays

Actually the plural of magus is magineasusesum. You’re welcome.

As someone who is playing Starcraft 2 just right now and is near to the end, I am surprised and thrilled that there are other factions to choose from. Sadly i dont have any idea how to get it or download it from. May i know how will i be able to play this...and if so, can i play it offline vs computer ai?

@benjaminvargas9166

29 күн бұрын

Custom => Melee => pick any map => search "Scion Mod" or "All races mod" => select create with mod

@jamesarden317

29 күн бұрын

@@benjaminvargas9166 thank you!

Было прикольно смотреть комментарии игроков на русском, когда комментатор англоговорящий

@You-ul8qw

9 ай бұрын

Yes, Alex007 made the mod very popular in russia but us english speakers love these mods to!

his upgrades saved him early / mid

AoE so early? Why?

@wesorwell3655

9 ай бұрын

Flamespitters are absolute junk against speedlings, adepts/chargezealots, and marines. Horned Magi are needed, and counterplay can be done by splitting your fire shielded units.

@guyclykos

9 ай бұрын

@@wesorwell3655 It's still AoE way too early. It can have 1hp but if it gets its damage in early on with early unit prices, that's a little busted. It looked like a DoT too. Just buff their hp and have it as an upgrade later.

@wesorwell3655

9 ай бұрын

@@guyclykos It is a DoT, and its fairly low one. Split your units, the unit that is fireshielded is actually a liability for the dragons as it has extra armor. Run it into the dragon army and they take the damage instead. I think the one sided results are primarily from lack of knowledge, you can't counterplay something you don't know the mechanics of. Edit: Horned Magus are the same tier of unit as banelings, which are much more devastating AoE. I would consider adding an activation time to Fire Shield, but I'm not sure its necessary when people know how to counter it.

@guyclykos

9 ай бұрын

@@wesorwell3655 Attention and micro are very expensive resources especially early on. If I'm the dragon player, I can attack move this unit into an army while I'll have my attention elsewhere. If I'm attacking in two fronts, I only need to pay attention to one fight while my opponent needs to pay attention on two fronts for the micro and splits. We've seen it with parasitic bomb and that is a pretty powerful spell. You can nerf the damage and range of that DoT, it won't fit a unit that can be acquired so early. Banelings balance themselves by being disposable. You have to land them and even if you do, you lose the resources to do damage. Moreover, no DoT and it makes more sense for a unit that sacrifices itself.

@wesorwell3655

9 ай бұрын

@@guyclykos The spell costs energy and gives the enemy a buff of a ton of armor AND makes it immune to fireshield unlike parasitic bomb. The fact its a DoT makes it weaker because it gives you time to split or take advantage of the units increased armor to waste enemy damage. Banelings do not buff the enemy, they blow them up instantly. Banelings require a presplit army, you can split the fireshielded unit out. From what I saw in the video, the enemy attacked with the equivalent of 12 marines into a much much more expensive army and got them killed. If you took those units and fought just as many hellions the exact same thing would have happened.