Heres literally the easiest way to fix this: Froggie: "Hey Idubbz, I'm gonna train with Sam Hyde. Is that ok?" Ian: "Hey we have issues, can you please not train with him? If you do we will remove you from the event" Froggie: "Ok *Makes a choice based on that info*" None of this weak corporate "Well I can't give you a yes or no" just give a blunt choice like an adult.

@appropriate-channelname3049

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he should just make it part of the contract.

@johnnydoe6325

Жыл бұрын

Because if Idubbz did that,he wouldn't look like the victim. It's a common behavior among sociopaths,to not give a straight answer.

@paperbag4477

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnydoe6325 “sociopaths”, that’s a funny way of saying bitch-boy

@alexthealexander17

Жыл бұрын

That's literally what happened bruh. And FF decided to post Sam Hyde content on all his platforms. It wasn't him training with Sam it was the content. Did you even watch the video?

@timgeurts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't know anything about all this drama, but those texts are so bad. If you have power don't hide it. Nothing nice about being unclear about consequences when you set the consequences.

Weird he’s usually the puppet master in these situations

@Lil_B_Fan47

Жыл бұрын

The irish candy man is behind everything with his connections

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

Send him to the frog pond there are no strings to be pulled

@octoberwildsmoke9065

Жыл бұрын

Yall need to start taking your schizophrenia medication again

@elliason9036

Жыл бұрын

It is like his event that he sets up and controls

@SaraHessXXIV

Жыл бұрын

LOL, nice reference.

All Ian needed to say was "I don't want you to train with Sam Hyde, if you do, i will have to kick out of the event." It's that simple, a lot of drama could've been avoided.

@poorlyrenderedrolf8882

Жыл бұрын

Lmao exactly. How hard is it to be honest? Man waited after the event to even say shit. Ian shoulda just kept filming his wife

@gogmaziosfuse1151

Жыл бұрын

Oh god no It's a still a lose lose

@jackofastora8962

Жыл бұрын

@@engenheirocaldasodocumenta6172he literally didn’t. He just whined about how he doesn’t like Sam, how he wants froggy to fight, and never answered the question of “if I do this are you gonna boot me from the event?”

@JerryLeeHowell2

Жыл бұрын

That's what he DID say. Shocked that Sam Hyde fans would be all about a braindead hillbilly!

@Saltedroastedcaramel

Жыл бұрын

​@@engenheirocaldasodocumenta6172Then why did he wait until three weeks before the event to drop him

calling idubbz texts professional and clear is honestly amazing to me. Like am I blind? How can what ian say have been construed as clear? Froggy asked, ASKED, specifically if he is allowed to do something with a binary yes or no, and ian refused to give the clearest answer. Its really simple.

@bradensmith8682

Жыл бұрын

It's ridiculous. I feel as though Ian was trying to get Froggy to willingly drop out of CC by baiting Froggy into getting frustrated from all the psychotic wordplay. And as for those defending Ian's texts as "professional" or "clear", I feel like they are desperately trying to redefine and revise words to make themselves feel in the right.

@satzbau9185

Жыл бұрын

Just reading those texts thinkin "yep this is exactly how a puppetmaster type mind would orchestrate the conversation." haha yeah right. I'm afraid Ian lacks some essential IQ points to be half the master manipulator he obviously believes he is.

@kami9143

Жыл бұрын

If you think him having to say "yes or no" to that than that's just crazy cause you can literally just use your context clues that "oh this guy is gonna kick me" and it comes off that Froggy knew it cause he asked repeatedly. Do I think Ian should have man up and just answer instead of talking like as boss trying to fire his worker in the "nicest way possible" yeah. He might be the head of the event but keep things straight up.

@AluraRosenbaumDizzEwok

Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way lmao! "It's clear and professional." I guess Mr. Beast need to make curing blindness E2, but for this def noodles person. I get protecting one's partner part that everyone goes to, but try answering the actual question of why not just say no to an actual clear question Froggy asked. Can I interact with Sam? No. Okay.

@charliedango2664

Жыл бұрын

Internet people's concept of professionalism is far and away skewed from reality.

Never forget that this all happened because Ian went out of his way to get involved with Sam with the sole purpose of making an exposé on him, and got completely ass-mad when Sam flipped the script on him. It's like watching a kid get mauled by a dog after being repeatedly told not to poke it with a stick .

@yosos2

Жыл бұрын

No, Sam Hyde has been beating a dead horse for 3 years and Ian has said almost nothing, how is that not pathetic to you people? Sam is washed and is craving for any crumb of attention

@108chapin

Жыл бұрын

@@yosos2 No, it's just like the op said, and Sam's doing better than ever. It's hilarious watching him troll the shit out of ian, and ian responds by shooting himself in the foot. the treacherous clown tried to make a hit-piece on Sam and got punked hard. He deserves all the hate. It's called reaping what you sow. I hope we get more next time. If it's a dead horse then why are you here in this comment section about the idubz vs sam drama? Why is it pathetic for us and not you? typical internet high-horse nanny

@DaiSenshiMounir

Жыл бұрын

@@yosos2 pretty sure sam was not antagonizing ian and anisa UNTIL they banned him from CC1 without notice and he showed up with $12k in tickets and got denied entry with his friends because they were afraid he was coming to troll them when in reality he just wanted to support harley

@ryantylerMachete

Жыл бұрын

@@yosos2 sam is way more relevant than idubz these days my boy

@alexanderchippel

Жыл бұрын

@@yosos2 Ian reached out to Sam in the first place, in both instances. The first time Sam just told him to fuck off. The second time, Sam decided to mess with him by pulling a prank. All of it happened because Ian wanted to get involved with Sam.

Idubbbz could’ve just shut up and let this drama go because the internet has an attention span of a Goldfish

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

Unironically I don’t think that applies to Idubbbz everyone remembers everything he’s done at all times

@rogerjack18

Жыл бұрын

Also ironically goldfish can remember stuff for months or about 2 yrs so the Internet has an attention span less than a gold fish. Also 🤓 I get it.

@violetblythe6912

Жыл бұрын

It’s Anisa pushing him to defend her just like last time, and letting him take all the heat.

@JK-gm6kk

Жыл бұрын

The comment in question would have done nothing but hype up anticipation for the event! Mike Tyson used to say he would eat his opponents children (which in 2023 could be interpreted in a variety of ways lol). Then there's a the whole ear thing.

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerjack18 goldfish are good food for the frogs

Belle Delphine defending Ian is the ultimate death rattle of whoever he was before his wife came into the picture

Just remember, Ian created his own worse enemy with Sam. He KNEW who Sam was, what his political views were and his comedy. Yet he chose to give him exposure. No one should feel sorry for Ian since he made Sam Hyde more popular. Had Ian never reached out to Sam, I doubt Ian would be mocked as much as he is now. And for fuck sakes, Harley give it a rest.

@legendaryra3590

Жыл бұрын

Ian just keeps exposing himself, the text messages showed him backstabbing froggy and in the video he blames what froggy said AFTER he was kicked for being the reason he got kicked

@ManCheat2

Жыл бұрын

Ian didn't give sam hyde exposure tho.. Basically everyone knew who sam hyde was..

@foxsden

Жыл бұрын

Yeah say was pretty popular before hand. Ian just introduced sam to his audience

@GavinAeilts

Жыл бұрын

This comment would make sense to me if he was asking for sympathy?

@Dragonwolfworm

Жыл бұрын

@@ManCheat2 So making a documentary about him where it will get millions of views isn't exposure? Sam was popular sure, but nowhere near as popular as he has been in the last year or so. The documentary gave him a bigger spotlight. Even Sam admitted that.

"Idubbz, If I work out with Sam Hyde will I be banned?" "Before I answer that question, we need to talk about parallel universes."

@HarleyQuinnSoldier

Жыл бұрын

Ian heavily implied that it’d effect Froggy’s contract. Froggy was pissy because 1. Ian told him not to post his work with Sam until after the event. & 2. Ian didn’t answer the way Froggy wanted him to.

@radec4223

Жыл бұрын

"Before I can awnser if you get penalized for going to training tommorow, I need time to think, yes you will walk into a backstab if i do decide to penalize you"

@Gerald-of-Riviera

Жыл бұрын

​@@HarleyQuinnSoldier I'm guessing you didn't read the entire text conversation at all or just conveniently let Ian, the host and creator of the event, allow such vague and loose terms that doesn't give a straight answer for somebody that's been training for months. Ian had problems with Sam when Harley fought during CC1, yet Harley had no issue with his contract.

@HarleyQuinnSoldier

Жыл бұрын

@@Gerald-of-Riviera 🤦 didn’t know all you entitled retards need dumbed down answers. Like legit Froggy is about as retarded as they coke so no wonder he couldn’t grasp what even an autist could read

@hisen3.146

Жыл бұрын

@@HarleyQuinnSoldier A "yes" is much easier to type than 3 separate texts saying how his wife was abused. Seemed like sympathy baiting because he wanted Froggy to stay in the event but didn't want to keep Sam as part of the package deal. Imagine buying neapolitan ice cream, but complaing to the person running the store that you have an allergy to strawberry ice cream when you get neapolitan, so you throw the ice cream you bought on the floor.

Insane watching idubbbz just avoid giving froggy an answer for like 5 messages straight. Dude is such a slime ball now

@Liquid_Mike

Жыл бұрын

California is a cancer that creeps into people's bone marrow

@SmoothCriminal12

Жыл бұрын

69th like... But yeah, he should've just given a yes or no answer off the bat.

@KoinzellGaming

Жыл бұрын

After that he literally had the audacity to claim "I made it clear that it wasn't OK" - He didn't have the balls to give a "yes or no" answer, but I bet Anisa came in clutch by going through with the ban in the background. The Idubbz vs Froggy spat is pretty much just Anisa vs Sam and Froggy was just unwilling to disassociate with HIS FRIEND based on some ambiguous messages.

@prettyflygamer

Жыл бұрын

It was pretty obvious what the answer was...

@gingersaremad

Жыл бұрын

@@prettyflygamer when dealing with business relationships, strongly implying an answer is not "clear," all he needed to do was give a yes you can work with him or no you can't.

Man it really was professional and mature of Idubbbz to dodge Froggy Fresh question when he asked Idubbbz was going to kick him from Creator Clash 2

@brianeno608

Жыл бұрын

Right I see, I mean Idubbbz should have said no clearly unless he has done so, but like use your Brain for 2 secs. Like calling in sick to work 10 days in a row because it's "no problem dude"

@Matt-zu2lu

Жыл бұрын

@@brianeno608 ah yes, comparing boxing and petty drama to a regular 9-5 job. Very compelling argument idiot

@maxdavis7722

Жыл бұрын

@@brianeno608 what is your point?

@honeynutsock

Жыл бұрын

did he not decide to draw the line at posting content until after the event?

@kingofthenorth8741

Жыл бұрын

​@@honeynutsockthat in itselve is another gray area.... most audiences dont look at youtubers posting on twitter as content... tho ofcourse if you dislike a guy that much, you'd be willing to move the goalposts. Most youtubers arent followed like they are on twitter or other social medias, the would be known as TwitterContent peeps and not "KZreadrs".

Do you know what sucks the most about this whole thing? Its not that he stopped being edgy or that his girlfriend has a onlyfans(though those things clearly don't help)It's the fact that Ian has taken up the worst qualities of the very people he's criticized in the past. He's insecure like leafy he feeds off drama like keemstar he exaggerates like tana he's desperate for attention like ricegum and he bullies and harasses smaller content creators like all 4 of those people. It's one thing to see a person change, it's another thing to watch a person become what they hate. The current iDubbbz is someone the past iDubbbz would absolutely make a content cop on.

@Sleepytechnician

Жыл бұрын

My god, he’s collecting the youtubemeralds. He’s almost got the entire set!

@DebasedAnon

Жыл бұрын

It's cause hes turned into a far leftist authoritarian, everything else is a consequence of that. Whether it was Anisa that made him that way or someone else is up to you to decide for yourself. These people consider offensive words to be literal violence, they see their own extreme and often very immoral actions as justifiable because they're up against "evil people" and they have no principles. Once you understand how rampant projection is you'll be able to sniff all these people out immediately. "I think you're an incel if you dont approve of sex workers" - from a guy who had 1 GF in his life and sold his balls to her "How dare you insult me and my wife" - from a guy who thought it was perfectly fine to try to make a hit piece and destroy someone Always ask yourself "is it projection?" In these situations and you'll find out how hilariously widespread it is.

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

Жыл бұрын

This. This comment needs to be in EVERY parody content cop on Idubbz

@sunbeames1847

Жыл бұрын

Damn never considered it like that, but it unfortunately makes sense. I don't care about him having the traits of the people he criticized in the past and some of those traits I was aware of, but the general decline was really summed up here.

@nun.9902

Жыл бұрын

yeah it really makes me sad because this is what happened to me in an abusive relationship narcissistic abuse is the real deal. They abuse you to the point that you want to prove anything and everything to them that you are without a doubt dedicated to them and slowly you BECOME them. I have consumed a lot of content by an expert within the realm of narcissism who has narcissistic personality disorder himself Sam Vaknin, he describes that the narcissist essentially chooses someone easily manipulated, empties them of their personality and values, clones themselves within that vessel and then ultimately discards them eventually. They use and use until they get tired of the person, they become annoying to them because they become too needy as the narc only ever gives them tid bits of love here and there but it keeps the victim incredibly hooked its addictive to the victim. The taking of her last name, the tatts the persona its all to prove his loyalty to her and he doesn't even realise its happening because most don't understand or have the knowledge on the complexities of narcissistic abuse.

It's so funny hearing people talking about Ian 'growing up'. The dude was an adult when he got into Tana Mongeau's face specifically to yell the n word. How much more growing up can he do?

@simonthedigger2358

Жыл бұрын

He never grew he just became left wing. When being edgy becomes profitable again watch him turn his content around

@ftb282

Жыл бұрын

growing up in this context is just "has opinions I agree with"

@elliason9036

Жыл бұрын

People can change an attitude someone who’s a dick in their 20’s and an asshole to everyone can become a different type of person in like 10 years it’s just a change of attitude

@joshuabailey6246

Жыл бұрын

What makes the tana stuff even funnier is that it was anisa who suggested going to meet her

@paperbag4477

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuabailey6246 exactly. He makes fun of his old fans, when him and his own wife were exactly that.

"Glue eater def noodles" bruh that was outta pocket but im fucking in tears 😂😂😂😂

belle delphine literally coming out clarifying "rules for thee but not for me"

Why is Ian being so passive aggressive in the text messages? It's like asking someone if they want anything from McDonald's but they said no, but then yelled at you for not getting them anything and tell other people how selfish you were. Yeah I've had that experience.

@floorijzerman

Жыл бұрын

low T

Man Idubbbz video was so awful “we didn’t kick him because of the reasons you thought” *Is the reasons people thought*

@BoondoggleMyCognle

Жыл бұрын

he literally said it was because of Sam Hyde

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@BoondoggleMyCognle exactly everyone figured that’s what it was

@gamingmoyai3950

Жыл бұрын

@@BoondoggleMyCognle you are like the only person who thought it was anything different.

@qbikmusik

Жыл бұрын

@@PhoenixAce i mean thats because we all watch bowblax, his fans who dont keep up with all the drama werent thinking that, youre just in an echo chamber

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@qbikmusik how did anything I say sound like I’m in an echo chamber what

I don’t understand why idubbz included those texts as if it was a gotcha moment. Froggy asked him like 3 times for a yes or no and Ian just kept tip towing around it

@LeonRuiz

Жыл бұрын

Ian mentioned that he isn't a very good communicator and that he tried to talk respectfully with Froggy but he wasn't having it I guess.

@yallnwahsdontevendrinkskoo4092

Жыл бұрын

​@@LeonRuiz Snakey "nice guys" tend to have a problem with being direct. They get so used to being passive aggressive, that they lose the ability to communicate like men.

@LeonRuiz

Жыл бұрын

That being said, Ian was very clear in his message that he is willing to look past his involvement with Sam Hyde if he would just postpone his content with him until CC2 was over.

@laxel1641

Жыл бұрын

@@LeonRuiz the thing is what content is there. Like did the picture count as content? Like maybe I missed it but what content did Froggy did with Sam.

@progrip1985

Жыл бұрын

Because he was hoping no one would pause and read them five screenshots go by in like 3 seconds he knew what he was doing and he should have knew people would pause and read them or hell just not include them at all but he desperately wants to make froggy look like the bad guy SMH

How funny would it be if Sam Hyde trained leafy to challenge idubbbz. The ultimate villain arc💀

@randomhero6365

Жыл бұрын

Too bad he's strung out on drugs

@eeelorde9962

Жыл бұрын

Nah we need Jon to fight Ian

@Ebb0Productions

Жыл бұрын

@@eeelorde9962 t-the chosen one?

@eeelorde9962

Жыл бұрын

@@Ebb0Productions Yes the chosen one

I would actually be on Ian’s side if he wasn’t the one to actively provoke Sam. I understand that to the average KZread viewer they probably wouldn’t approve of Sam, and I understand not feeling comfortable about a dude who constantly talks shit about your marriage and wife, but it’s all his fault. He went out of his way to try to make him mad by making that documentary.

@GodsDissapointment

Жыл бұрын

Thank you bro like Ian knowingly poked the bear and then ask surprised when he got exactly what he asked for. Ironically enough it reminds me of people trying to make expose content on Ian back in the day and Ian doubling down on the toxic behavior to further annoy them. Things have gone full circle

@bh7969

Жыл бұрын

if you dont want your name in peoples mouth you shouldnt be a public figure

I think Ian saying "I had a similar issue last year but sam training harley caused me to gain a lot of hate" is HILARIOUS because Ian literally got hate AFTER HE BANNED SAM last minute. had he done so even a week or two out it wouldn't have slapped him as hard.

@aleksisuuronen5969

Жыл бұрын

There is so many of twisting of the things and manipulating in the video. Then saying that the other side is trying to manipulate the situation when they have infact been very clear. Ian makes a video where things after the kicking is said is presented like it was before the removing. Says Froggy was kicked for Sam but doesn't state so in the messages. He doesn't even touch Anisas mom going on a rant on twitter towards Froggy. Doesn't apologize that Raygun had to fight a brain damage inducing unfair match up (and brands the event as "good vibes"). Makes a super weak points how Froggy is sexist, misogynistic and hates sex-workers by him hating Anisa. The prove being two clear jokes and him not wanting to talk to Anisa after talking to Ian and not getting a clear yes or no about training with Sam (the convo ending seeming like it's ok but upload after the event). Ian doesn't conviniently address times when he and Anisa have been lying, like that Dr.Mike would drop out if Sam was there. I think it's relevant because it's all how they are perceived. The video is baaad, anyone who falls for that bs is slow. As I said before the leaked messages that if the reason was Sam, then why didn't he kick Froggy when he decided to go there make some content with him. Now it makes even less sense since it ended on a note of ok do it but don't release videos before the event.

@RollingBobbyJones

Жыл бұрын

​@@aleksisuuronen5969 i hate ian much more after reading the messages. Tried to read them on his video but he flashed them so fast it was hard to pause. I was fully open to FF being anywhere in the wrong but ian fucked up every time

@JerryLeeHowell2

Жыл бұрын

​@@RollingBobbyJones Yeah bro, maybe be less faggy, and dont hate internet people for drama, queen.

@DebasedAnon

Жыл бұрын

​@@RollingBobbyJonesIts wild to me that people called that professional, to me it looks like a teenage girl trying to be deliberately cryptic in order to not have to say anything definitive and then getting mad over it. Basically highschool level emotional manipulation attempts.

@RollingBobbyJones

Жыл бұрын

@@DebasedAnon people who call that "professional" are people who WILL stab you in the back at the first chance after calling you a friend. There is no way not giving a straight answer is professional.

This is honestly embarrassing but I'm loving every minute of it thanks boblax

@gonzostwin1

Жыл бұрын

Unlike DMX, soy gonna give this to you

@TheMoinomedian

Жыл бұрын

"Boblax" is some funny shit.

@arthurdurham

Жыл бұрын

He doing the lord's work here

@relaxedgaming1319

Жыл бұрын

Bowblax is a dork and angry because idubbbz put a “🤓” on screen when Bowblax was talking in Idubbbz response vid lmao stay mad dork

Idubbz implied that froggy would be kicked if he had sam hyde in his content, but at the end decided to go with the “let me think about it” route leaving froggy in the dark. Kicks froggy from the event, not only not telling all the reasons about why he got kicked but also justifies it by using examples of after he got kicked. What.

@jay_1212

Жыл бұрын

I think had Idubbz just been straight up and said don’t work with Sam all of this could’ve been avoided.

@legendaryra3590

Жыл бұрын

If he just let froggy work with Sam none of this would be happening.. Instead he's still seething about taking an L in the Sam Hyde documentary, he can't let it go 😂

@jay_1212

Жыл бұрын

@@legendaryra3590 he doesn’t necessarily have to let Froggy work with sam. It’s his event and he has the right to be that way. I just wished he was more clear with Froggy

@legendaryra3590

Жыл бұрын

@@jay_1212 Ian's getting clowned on for kicking Froggy. It's ironic because he claimed he kicked Froggy to avoid that

I think idubbbz made the right call. Kicking FROGGY definitely helped him avoid harassment 😂

@A_YouTube_Commenter

Жыл бұрын

Either way .... now he's a coward and we know it.

@brianeno608

Жыл бұрын

​@@A_KZread_Commenter why is he a coward? Why does that matter?

@Terraff6

Жыл бұрын

​@Brian Eno well cause he REFUSED to answer froggys question multiple times

@gickygackers

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@brianeno608 vindication. it all leads back to liking the good funny guy, and then the establishment kicking them out. The establishment must be held accountable, and that's what KZread drama is. Happened with Norm on Saturday Night Live. World Peace on Adult Swim. Now this.

@end.olives

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHA yeah its like hes constantly trying to avoid something hes constantly causing Its like a comment I've read "Ian will now face every fear he has just to reinforce them"

I’ve never seen a man get humiliated publicly this much 😂

@aquaticnuke

Жыл бұрын

its a kink

@paperbag4477

Жыл бұрын

The whole vid was literally “ and that’s why I’m justified in suing a guy over a joke 😤”

@_JC_21

Жыл бұрын

I bet you'd love it if it was you. Definitely cool to laugh at this.

@anamericangrizzlybear8315

Жыл бұрын

​@@_JC_21 my girlfriend wouldn't have an only fans and she wouldn't get butthurt over a joke about her having an only fans that she's supposedly proud of So it could never be me

@anamericangrizzlybear8315

Жыл бұрын

@@Jasper-uw2ht you're right, girls are icky

The strangest thing about this drama is the amount of people who are talking about Froggy like he does the things Sam Hyde does. He was so respectful in their text conversation and clearly just saw both events as two separate business ventures, Ian made it so personal over friend of a friend BS

@PongoDaMan

Жыл бұрын

Sam hyde is doing what idubbbz did for years, and I dubbbz now had decided he dosent like it anymore lol

@thespclflash456

Жыл бұрын

My man, he was hanging out and posting content with the man calling Ian's girlfriend a fucking whore, and worse. Would you want to fucking associate with someone with friends like that?

@Gerald-of-Riviera

Жыл бұрын

​@@thespclflash456 Before or after he was banned? Don't forget that

@thespclflash456

Жыл бұрын

@@Gerald-of-Riviera He was banned for breaking his promise to Ian and other gross shit.

@thespclflash456

Жыл бұрын

@@Gerald-of-Riviera Also, do you seriously think him getting banned justifies the heinous shit and lies he's told?

"Glue eater def noodles said" I fucking lost it.

Here are my thoughts. I think Ian’s video is dogshit and I think the screenshots he leaked only showed froggy trying to get a concrete answer. He asked multiple times if training with Sam was too far, and Ian constantly kept dodging the question. People accuse froggy of doing all this evil stuff like harassing anisa, when that’s not what happened at all. At the time he got kicked, all he said about her was that he would subscribe to her onlyfans if he lost. Something not many KZreadrs on either side brought up that explains why I think the bill bur situation that got brought up is different is that idubbbz himself said he was fine with jokes about his wife’s of. Only person I saw being it up was crip. Idubbbz has said Anissa helps him with every video he makes, so she signed off on the video where he said jokes about her OF were fine, but then they both proceed to get upset over a joke about her OF. If they were transparent in the first place and just said “yes jokes about my wife’s OF offend me” in his original sex work video, I doubt froggy would have ever made that joke.

@GrizzleBearMAK

Жыл бұрын

I mean can we acknowledge there's a clear difference between making jokes about it and just calling his wife a whore? Sam Hyde's brand of joking about it is the equivalent to spitting on someone and going "It's just a prank bro!" whenever that person gets pissed and is about to deck you for it. I think it's more so the combination of joking about the Onlyfans stuff in tandem with doing shit with Sam, and then still posting the shit he did with Sam when Ian told him not to that was too much. Remove one piece from that equation and I think Froggy would have been alright.

@raultorres120

Жыл бұрын

Deez Nuts Eat A Dick

@Ebb0Productions

Жыл бұрын

​@@GrizzleBearMAK I still think that's guilt by association. Froggy is not the one that called Anisa a whore. That's why I think Ian is being very petty about this. He doesn't like Sam so he goes after *other people* that are friendly with Sam.

@monkeyclapper69

Жыл бұрын

The bill burr situation is pretty much different to this. To my knowledge I don’t think bill burr banned anyone or said anything about people associated with Cumbia. In this situation, Idubbbz wasn’t being very clear to froggy that he would be kicked for making content with Sam Hyde. In his video, he also pulled up Froggy retweeting tweets of Sam Hyde as if that’s him making content with him. So if Bill Burr banned people from his events bc they retweeted tweets that cumbia tweeted then people might have a different reaction

@deadvirgin428

Жыл бұрын

Nah, that doesn't work at all, it's true iDubbbz avoided giving a concrete answer at first, but he eventually said that Froggy COULD make content with Sam, but only release it after the event, then Froggy said "I'm gonna do whatever I want" and he rightfully got kicked out, then proceeded to cry about it on twitter. It's pretty clear that Froggy was already predisposed against iDubbbz, no matter what he would've made a tantrum about it. If iDubbbz could've done anything better it would've been to not be so soft on Froggy, just say "No, you can't collab with Sam", and ignore any tantrum with Froggy saying irrelevant shit like "wahhhh wahhhh I can't be friends with Sam??", as he effectively did in the DMs.

"People can change" Yeah, for the worse lmao

11:05 there's no way you just called Sam hyde in his most iconic fit "Brandon Buckingham" lmfao

@ssnowgrove5402

Жыл бұрын

probably sams most iconic moment as well lol

@TheRockLobsterMafia

Жыл бұрын

I know that shit was hilarious. Shoutout to Brandon Buckingham tho!

@rippspeck

Жыл бұрын

Let's just pretend he's fucking with us to be able to namedrop Brandon.

@IceFalcon38

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@MCDCSZN

Жыл бұрын

I was scrolling through trying to find somebody else who noticed that lmao

I really hate when people say people have grown up when they receive backlash for being shitty to the fans they fostered. You know who actually grew and changed in a way that most universally like? Joji/Filthy Frank. You can change without being insufferable

@Logan_93

Жыл бұрын

Nah dude. He went from being funny as hell to making cringe sadboi music for fat egirls. Massive L.

SomeBlackDudes take is very dishonest because he leaves out the key detail of Sam having NEVER attacked Anissa until AFTER he was randomly banned from creator clash 1. Not to mention there's plenty of people who criticize Burr for banning Ant since he was really close friends with Patrice. Basically putting his wife before the dead friend he's hosting an event for.

@jay_1212

Жыл бұрын

That still doesn’t excuse Anissa being constantly attacked online and Idubbz still has the right to wanna ban Sam for the constant trolling. If someone was constantly disrespecting my wife on the internet I wouldn’t want them at my event either. Same with Bill, sure it was a close friend but it doesn’t matter. If I’m running said event/show and you as a guest have been known to be extremely disrespectful towards my loved ones, I have every right to deny you it’s not your god given right to be there. My issue with Ian is that dude should’ve just answered Froggy directly and not be so vague

@Logan_93

Жыл бұрын

​@@jay_1212 Anisa is a genuinely awful person. All insults toward her are valid. Stop simping.

@monkeyclapper69

Жыл бұрын

@@jay_1212 If you ban someone last minute after them spending 10k (which would go to charity) to go to the event don’t expect that person to just let it slide. Sam talking crap about Ian and Anisa is like a slap on the wrist for what happened at CC1

@ManCheat2

Жыл бұрын

Also, its different.. Bill burr banned the guy who trashtalked his wife... how does this have a similarity with Froggy fresh? This is all about sam hyde, aka not froggy fresh. It would make sense if his bill burr thing bill banned any friends of the dude..

@GameOgreDonkey

Жыл бұрын

@@jay_1212 Cumia never trashed on burrs wife until after he was banned. He knew the wife was the reason bill banned him. She said he was a racist for what happened with that savage attacking him in the street. Patrice was much better friends with anthony vs Billy Hollywood, and for bill to ban cumia because his woman told him to was just flat out wrong. It was a charity event for Patrice, why did they make it about themselves? What's ironic is that if Patrice were alive today, he would absolutely side with cumia, and would destroy burr for the woke liberal cuck he has become.

It’s a shame to see iDubbbz become the very thing he’d made fun of years ago, a sensitive person

@FluffyPavilion

Жыл бұрын

L take

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

It ain’t even that he became soft he became a complete coward and shifted into the polar opposite which is just as bad as people claim he was years ago

@KireTheOne

Жыл бұрын

@@FluffyPavilion W take

@yoga4u283

Жыл бұрын

​@@FluffyPavilion W take

@ftb282

Жыл бұрын

He could have "grown up", stopped screaming the n word every video, without completely dunking on his audience and switching up. Makes you realise that he really did care what people thought all along

Idubbbz is the reason this drama is continuing. when Creator Clash 2 happened, everyone had already forgotten about the Froggy stuff and was praising the event. Ian could have just let it go and nothing would happen but he made a video that reminded everyone about the drama and brought it back.

@poorlyrenderedrolf8882

Жыл бұрын

Its the exact thing he did about his wifes onlyfans. Only needed to say two setences at most and he a man about it instead of posting his cope videos. He feels socially challenged lol .

@Mike-mb9pr

Жыл бұрын

I honestly didn't know this drama existed until idubbbz made his most recent video.

@arthurdurham

Жыл бұрын

Can't disagree. I honestly forgot about this (and CC in general) once it died down. But this brought the drama back

I have to give credit to bowblax. He's like a historian for all this twitter drama. Like a modern library of alexandria.

@noblenaveragemanointernet2582

Жыл бұрын

But for Twitter degeneracy

@JohnnyL69

Жыл бұрын

The Library of Twitter

Harley's glazing is kinda impressive lmfao. If idubz had just gave a direct "dont do anything with sam" message literally all of this wouldnt have gone the way it did. Simple fix, and he doesnt look nearly as bad

@MartezAnims

Жыл бұрын

Harley flopped 11 years ago, so he needs to gain any sort of relevance rn.

I love how all the people defending idubbbz (def noodles, Ryan beard, belle Delphine) are already really annoying people

@Kylessuperbestfriend

Жыл бұрын

couldn't have said it better myself..

@fzndn-xvii

Жыл бұрын

What's up with Ryan Beard?

@nickb1762

Жыл бұрын

@@fzndn-xvii idk but belle delphine sold her piss

@sleepingbear4557

Жыл бұрын

@@fzndn-xvii he's constantly finding ways to call people racist on twitter in situations where it makes no sence.

@youtubesucks3882

Жыл бұрын

Def Noodles (barely breaks 3k views per video thank God), Ryan Beard (only relevancy came from the Sneako beef which was short-lived) and Belle Delphine (worth $5/month). Really the most intellectual and quality people on any platform whose voices definitely deserve attention lmao.

Def noodles isn’t a glue eater but he is a glue drinker

@runningwithoutahelmet33

Жыл бұрын

A glue guzzler in fact

@matguimond92

Жыл бұрын

and a cock inhaler

@hugosenshida999

Жыл бұрын

He do be taking those glue suppositories

@NotRJ001

Жыл бұрын

​@@runningwithoutahelmet33 slight Pause my guy🤨✋🏿

For people saying that Idubbbz shouldn't associate with someone who said bad things about his wife, he WASN'T transparent at all. Froggy wanted a YES or NO, and Ian didn't give him that. He very much contradicted himself in the video because he said that he let go of Froggy's training with Sam and let go of the content he was making. It's IAN'S choice to not associate with someone who makes jokes he 'doesn't care about', not Froggy's. He was so cool with his wife's illustrious career in sex work, why does he care that people joke about it?

@monkeyclapper69

Жыл бұрын

Also, this situation wouldn’t have gotten big if he was just DIRECT with Froggy and give him a yes or no question. I would think people would have been on Ian’s side if he did that. It’s funny that being indirect and dodging questions is seen as “mature”

@bradensmith8682

Жыл бұрын

I'm get the feeling Ian really isn't a fan of sex work. He doesn't seem proud enough of it to be unshaken by jokes about it. 🤔

@AFed69

Жыл бұрын

ian did say that, in froggys own words ian said they could train together but dont poat content together since having a nazi associated with a charity event isnt the best i didnt know if you knew that or not, but i guess thats too inapropriate

@JellyWhopper

Жыл бұрын

​@@AFed69 bro retweets aren't content you nerd. Such a dumb semantics argument

@helygg8892

Жыл бұрын

Sam didn't say anything extreme about Anisa until he was burned by Ian during the first clash if you actually notice how Sam speaks about it before the point of no return he just calls her yoko but as soon as he realized Ian was just gonna be this passive aggressive weasel he let loose calling her all kinds of names basically sitting there like ok you aren't going to reply or speak up so I'll kick it up a notch and started going hard on the name calling and insults and Ian STILL sat there in silence

I will never ever accept the convo between Idubbz and Froggy as good He was asked a simple question, if a person will be able to box or not, and he straight up said "I don't understand." It's a simple yes or no question, or a simple "If you are going to associate with him too much, then yeah you are out."

Bro the way Ian was dancing around giving Froggy a yes or no answer genuinely comes off as almost corporate, lmfao this goes further than Anisa, what happened to this dude?

@a.o.skurtt

Жыл бұрын

it is corporate, hes acting in behalf of a charity corporation raising millions lol

@seagullsays5831

Жыл бұрын

@@a.o.skurtt Why do that in a one on one talk with one of the title fighters of your event though?

@a.o.skurtt

Жыл бұрын

@@seagullsays5831 tbh he probably already wanted to cut ties w him and that point, knowing that if he did say no first off that does look bad but also if he said no froggy would probably try to find some loophole and still get involved with sam hyde so it was p much already a rap cause he could tell froggy wouldnt be cooperating by the way he was actin

People think that the reason we're mad at idubbbz because he's mad for his wife's behalf when it's the fact that he won't admit it that makes us mad

@DebasedAnon

Жыл бұрын

Wont admit it cause its the domino that will make the others fall. "I admit it i get offended over making fun of my wifes OF content" Which means the following dominos will fall: - "I'm very insecure about everyone seeing my wife naked" - "I always have been insecure and didnt want this, i lied through my teeth all those years ago" - "She wears the pants in the relationship and im whipped because shes the first girlfriend i ever had"

Also, as for SomeBlackGuy's take about Sam Hyde continuously shitting on Anisa...nah, man. If he was, he'd be an OF collaborator and idubbbz would have to personally invite him to CC3 to show his support of sex workers.

Its absolutely impeccable how so many people got baited by Idubbbz horrifically deceitful editing style in the video, those clips of Froggy were from AFTER he was banned. Those clips of Sam were from AFTER he was banned. Idubbbz never gave Froggy an answer to his question which you will see if you actually read those text messages, Froggy basically crossed a line that he didn't know existed, when all of this drama would have been avoided if Ian just answered Froggys question of, "If I train with Sam Hyde can I box?" All that Ian had to say was, "Yes if you train with Sam you will be unable to box." THATS ALL THAT IAN HAD TO SAY!!! Everybody on here defending Ian by saying that they can't believe Froggy and Sam said such horrible things. Obviously didn't do any research of their own and just took all of Ian's words at face value and believed all of Ian's deceitful editing.

@tokkyu6497

Жыл бұрын

Wait Ian got those clips after froggy was banned?

@pintolerance785

Жыл бұрын

@@tokkyu6497 yes. Obviously.

@tokkyu6497

Жыл бұрын

@@pintolerance785 not really lol

You'd think IDubbbz would have thinker skin than this considering everything he did in the past.

His line about respecting sex workers lol

It's like everyone forgot it was Froggy that got kicked, not Sam. All the comparisons for Idubbbz not wanting to be associated with Sam is way different than having a completely different person on the card. Sam wasn't invited, and it sounded like Froggy knew that.

@BowenEros-gt8gn

Жыл бұрын

Well, you forgot Ian's entire empire was built on IdubbbzTv, which was harassment and calling people out, regardless who was offended.

"Ian grew up!!!!!" No lmao he literally moved to LA and adopted the politics and cultural issues of that godforsaken city to fit in with a certain crowd much like H3H3. Neither of them have become better people, honestly both of them have become massive hypocrites spouting the usual talking points. When they were doing their edgy content at least they were being authentic instead of this cringe self-censorship to maintain their social status.

@jay_1212

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I’m perfectly fine with him not constantly yelling the n word or other slurs anymore. It was just cringe especially as you get older. However my issue is that dude shits on his own fans as if they weren’t the reason why he is where he is today.

@Casboof

Жыл бұрын

@@jay_1212 He can tone down the edginess and still be funny instead he decided to wokescold and lecture everyone

@degayify

Жыл бұрын

The only people who say he grew up are people with furry/anime profile pictures with bios like "19, genderqueer, autism"

Ian is 100% gas lighting in those texts. When you don’t just answer, that’s gas lighting.

@222daley

Жыл бұрын

Nah. Not really he was gaslighting but he didn’t answer but that wasn’t gaslighting

@moldysshoe8639

Жыл бұрын

​@@222daley, you're right, Ian and Harley claiming his text were transparent is the gaslighting

@yosos2

Жыл бұрын

You are socially stunted if think that

@GOTTA_RUN

Жыл бұрын

I might be misunderstanding but did you just said not answering a text message is gaslighting?? The word "Gaslighting" lost it's meaning

@travistreadway3180

Жыл бұрын

Nah gaslighting is making people believe in false perceptions and having them go insane not knowing what to believe, no answer is side stepping a question lmao

It’s honestly so sad to see someone that was once a well respected KZreadr fall so far like this. I especially watched him a lot when he made videos with Filthy Frank and MaxMoeFoe.

@travistreadway3180

Жыл бұрын

@Shiraho if anyone likes the fact he has done that is weird as fuck and hasn’t been outside

@Dadude572

Жыл бұрын

@Shiraho Holy shit you're all full of so much Hasan fart inhalation that you all assume this is the reason Ian is getting heat. He's a hypocrite and he's shitting on the people who made him famous to begin with. He's changed a lot and that Tana Mongeau video was just one of his many enjoyable content that had nothing to do with sensitive race topics. He was entertaining. Far more than he is now, and seeing him go after people for edgy things that he himself has done too but even worst makes him come across as extremely unlikeable and deserving of all the criticism he's been receiving.

@theedward3499

Жыл бұрын

@Shiraho where the fuck did you get this conclusion from, it’s because he’s being an egotistical slime ball who doesnt seem to have as much self awareness as he used to

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@Shiraho “I’ve only heard about what idubbbz has done and never watched his content”

@RepostProductions

Жыл бұрын

@Shiraho “Guys, he doesn’t say the gamer word anymore, he’s matured”

iDubbz never answered froggy's questions in the messages... Why are some people saying that he was clear with his intentions?? Lmao

Leafy smoking on that idubbbz pack right now.

@biohazardlnfS

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

That was Sam Hyde at a TedTalk in the chestplate, not Brandon Buckingham. It was a funny video he did a while ago where he showed how easy it was to be a speaker at TedTalks.

I feel like its fair that Ian doesn't want to interact with people like Sam Hyde, but despite that he handled the situation horribly imo.

@zama422

Жыл бұрын

All he had to do to make this not be an issue was is to say “if you work with Sam, you can’t fight” it’s weird how hard he tried to avoid giving a yes/no

@acutelilmint8035

Жыл бұрын

Ya. But he didn’t say “ hey, please don’t or we can’t u have u on the card” That’s the point, Ian gaslight

@acutelilmint8035

Жыл бұрын

@@zama422 basically. Ian did the whole “ I’m not mad at you, I’m disappointed”… ok..but can I take the car??? Just fing say yes or no. And the. Gets mad when u take the car

@ryantylerMachete

Жыл бұрын

sam has given him so many opportunities to squash the beef for the past 2 years and all ian has done is fuel his own downfall instead, kind of seems like he enjoys public humiliation

@ItsNothingRichy

Жыл бұрын

​@@ryantylerMachete that's just objectively wrong. Sam literally shit talks ians family on a daily basis, hell I wouldn't be surprised if all his shit talking got him some revenue 💀💀💀

Ian disgustingly used Sam’s comments about Anisa as rationale to have Froggy banned by association, having his editors gather clips of his fansly bad unboxing as proof but completely disregarding that pretty much none of the clips he included preceded the ban itself.

9:30 this argument makes sense if we were talking about him kicking Sam Hyde. Froggy literally didnt do shit prior to being banned other than the Anisa joke which wasnt bad at all

@JacaboBlanco

Жыл бұрын

10:40 and again, it's like they are conflating Frogfy Fresh with Sam Hyde as if Froggy has to now answer for everything Sam has ever done because he hung out with him once lol

@JacaboBlanco

Жыл бұрын

His bullshit editing without giving a relative timeline of events is tricking morons

@monkeyclapper69

Жыл бұрын

Fr like people are mad bc Ian was looking for an excuse to ban Froggy bc of his collab with Sam, not because of him banning Sam from CC. I don’t know why people don’t get that

You must have sub 80iq to consider foggy associating with Sam the same as Ian associating with Sam.

after the h3h3 dad drama and this weird back and forth with froggy and idubzz i think they should just hire managers or like legit event organizers becuase nobody in this event can properly communicate with each other

"neither of you were communicating clearly" bro how was Froggy NOT CLEAR? Dude said exactly what he meant.

I once tried to to initiate a complaint to my HR leader at work, and the way they tried to convince me to not turn it in a weird roundabout way gives me the same vibes Dubz text convo does. I am also autistic, so maybe I just am misinterpreting.

it’s so retarded how people are like “idubbbz can have his boundaries stop saying he can’t!” and “he clearly set a boundary with froggy!” like yes he can set up that boundary and that’s fine no one is saying he can’t, or at least reasonable people aren’t, but he didn’t properly and professionally inform froggy of that boundary at all! multiple times in a row froggy asked “yes or no will i be kicked off for hanging out with sam?” which is the very thing idubbbz claims froggy got booted for and idubbbz didn’t give him a straight answer! it’s also hilarious how 90% of the clips of froggy shitting on anisa and ian are from after he got kicked off and they ghosted him. like yeah of course he’s going to shit talk you! you kicked him off like two weeks before he was going to fight! months and months of training and effort wasted in an instant, and all for a bullshit reason that was never made clear to him UNTIL THE RELEASE OF THIS VERY IDUBBBZ VIDEO!!! and then they have the absolute GALL to ask for the money they lended him to train back, after he just spent MONTHS TRAINING FOR THE EVENT YOU JUST KICKED HIM OFF OF??? salt in the wound. fuck idubbbz and fuck creator clash

@AFed69

Жыл бұрын

in froggys own words "ian said i could train with sam but couldnt post content and i thought that was too inaproriate". its ret@rded how people see one part of a video and completely ignore the rest because they think they have something

@doesthisIookinfected

Жыл бұрын

@@AFed69 bro sensored himself saying the r slur 💀

idubbz text are subtilty a attempt to control froggy without directly telling him what to do thats why he dragged it out and wouldn't give froggy a answer its a form of attempted coercive control, he isnt tough enough to control anyone else so he is trying to get the power he lacks in his relationship by controlling the fighters like they should do what he wants out side the ring,, its funny if idubbz tried to tell his wife who she cancan't hang or be friends with it would be called out as using control over is wife. he was hoping his power over the event and 15k would force froggy to do what he wanted that's why he wouldn't flat out answer froggy to buy time for his subtle control attempts to work

I don’t use twitter and watching this makes me feel great about my decision.

@hi_ranz

Жыл бұрын

please continue not using twitter it's for the best 🙏

Personal opinion, Idubzzz shoulda just been ultra clear instead of saying he was hurt by Sam. I would've done the same thing as froggy. If I ask someone something they have the answer to, I expect a consice answer.

i like how idubbz defenders aren't acknowledging the fact they put themselves and their feelings ahead of charity. This was not a business event this was a charity event. idubbz thought explaining himself might affect the event but not kicking him. He basically says I know this could be viewed as selfish. Thats the only negative I can think of.

The thing i think is something that not enough people are focusing on is the lack of a Yes/No answer. He asked so many times for clarification and Idubbbz just gave such reductionist standpoints over and over again.

Anisa’s last tweet is the icing on the fucking cake. Taking the high and mighty stance of “this conversation needed to happen” as if people will ever stop being mean on the internet. She simultaneously comes off as “holier than thou” and passively gives the OK to shit on her Husband after all the bullets he’s taken for her.

Wow some people don’t have the full context and think that Sam insulted Ian’s wife first while being on the first Creator Clash, but no, he started insulting Ian and his wife after they took him off the first creator clash card and banned him and friends from building after Sam had already bought pricey front row tickets. Not to mention, Ian was so butthurt about a copyright claim from years ago that Sam didn’t even remember it happened, and wanted to go to Sam’s compound to humiliate him and show that he probably isn’t doing so good, but then Sam flipped the script on Ian, which made Ian more butthurt because in his mind, he’s always “The Puppet Master”.

Ok this literally has nothing to do with the video but… CONGRATULATIONS on getting to 300k subscribers it took a long time and even went down a bit earlier in the year but you’ve done it you earned it dude.

"this video is for glue eaters" -Def noodles entered the chat

Froggy using Ricky Martin as an example of how he respects sex workers is such a Hydian move to make lol

This is the most entertaining thing Ian has done in years and it was completely unintentional. Imo both sides messed up, but damn it's fun to watch.

He talks about how he got a year of harassment because of the last creator clash but now he proceeds to make a video and not expect another year of harassment?

That whole video was Ian using Frogg to act as a dart board for all the complaints he has about people (rightfully) critizising him for all manners of hipocrisy. There was a point in the vid where Ian nearly breaks and repeats "How am I the simp"...felt sad man.

“Glue eater, def noodles” 😭

Love how people defending Ian continuously conflate FroggyFresh with Sam Hyde

I don't think any of these people set a boundary in their life that wasnt made by simply implying it and leaving it up for interpretation Edit: Holy shit i never thought id hear the bill burr situation brought into this thats such a false equivalence LMAO what an absolute drooling invalid that guy is

Literally frog guy said - if u take me off the card, let me know And Ian just continued to gas light

The WORST part of this Idubbbz fall off, is Ricegum will end up with more credibility then Ian by the end of this

Ian has every right to kick whoever he wants from his event. The issue here is that he could’ve just told froggy “I don’t like Sam Hyde. Stop working with him or I’ll kick you from the event” but instead he kept froggy in the dark for weeks then comes out with a 30 minute copefest

“Dedicated to harassing me” Sam was actually dedicated to Fish Tank Live lmao, my man really lives in a world where everything revolves around him

He could of stayed professional about it by letting the event run and then not have him on board again after.

I think its hilarious that the people defending idubbbz say stuff like "imagine if you were in that position". I think the obvious response is a self respecting man wouldn't be with an onlyfans girl in the first place and any ridicule he'd receive for doing so isn't exactly unfounded. Not to mention that Anisa herself is an online personality who has done a lot to garner hate towards herself. It's not like Bill Burr 's wife who's a minor actor and very separate from Bill's line of work.

@arthurdurham

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Ok, let me ask you a question, do you ever watch p0rn? Answer honestly now

I think the biggest flex would be for Keem or someone to make a competing boxing event for charity and just run it better than Ian

26:25 It's different because it's Ian. The guy who said that making jokes about his wife was perfectly okay and that he doesn't care. and because of the fact that he repeatedly said it wasn't for the jokes, when it very obviously was. Bill Burr didn't like someone making a comment about his wife so he disassociated for him and gave the honest reason for it.

@appropriate-channelname3049

Жыл бұрын

Also u like this situation bills wife isn't a out and out public personality. Maybe sometimes she goes on his podcast because he asks but she never starts drama or anything like that. Anisa and Ian attacked Sam before he did anything negative. Sam wanted to help with creator clash he bought tickets wanted to fight etc... and they just completely smeared him. With Anthony he literally just started attacking bills wife and would say with no hint of irony or joking pretty racist stuff.

@ManCheat2

Жыл бұрын

Also a major difference is.... Sam hyde is the guy trashtalking ian and his wife... not froggy fresh... Bill burr to my knowledge didnt ban everyone who was friends to the guy who trashtalked his wife just the guy who did it..

11:11 You mistook Brandon Buckingham for young Sam 😂

Tbh, I can see where people are coming from and understand why they are saying that talking shit on Idubbbz for defending his wife is wrong and moronic. But Idubbbz was also really fucking moronic for when Froggy asked multiple times for a simple yes or no, and Idubbbz just went "Well um... I... 🥺 sam hyde bullied my wife". Like, dude - You don't want him to associate Sam Hyde to this event, just fucking say it. Least then Froggy knows what to expect and change training dates or something! And Jabroney saying that Froggy was not being clear with his messages kinda rubbed me the wrong way, cos... Froggy was being clear? He was asking if he will be kicked from the event due to Sam and clearly wanted a simple answer, nothing more nothing else.

Love it- thanks for condensing this absurd moment in time

man I thought sam hyde was being cringe for saying idubbz gf was bad for him or whatever but god he was so right lol.

@jay_1212

Жыл бұрын

Not really. Idubbz is responsible for his own actions not to mention Anisa was with Ian even while he was still doing content cops and even helped with a few

@handsomeboi3767

Жыл бұрын

@@jay_1212 I’m not saying Ian is blameless, I’m just saying that it’s probably true that the relationship is bad for him and it’s shows since he sperged out over froggy fresh making a joke over Anissa’s OF even though he said he didn’t care.

@Logan_93

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​@@jay_1212 You've clearly never dealt with a manipulative partner before. Anisa is AT LEAST 50% of the problem. She has poisoned his mind.

@jay_1212

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@@Logan_93 and how do you know this exactly? Are you in their relationship? Just bc he’s not as edgy as he once was doesn’t mean Anisa is just manipulating idubbz behind the scenes.

@Logan_93

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@@jay_1212 Dude I'm not going to sit here and argue with you. When you've been with a woman like Anisa, which I have, you can see this shit from miles away. It's her.

Those texts are hilarious cos i imagine Ian being too scared to say what he really feels to Froggy wanting to kick him. But it wasn’t until Anisas Mom prolly talked to Ian like “how are you letting this Imp fight in our charity when he’s getting trained by someone who talks shit about my daughter, your wife?” And he finally got a backbone after dominant women made him lol

@even3293

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You should seek help moron, that obviously didn't happen, you are defending a nazi in this argument, Sam Hyde is a nazi piece of shit, Ian didn't want anything to do with him or his friends because he's a bad person, develope some brain cells and understand what is actually happening idiot

@yanhuideng8263

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Ignore the other commenter, he’s clearly not well.

@even3293

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@@yanhuideng8263 right back at you dumbass, make a point next time you wanna say something ya sped, you clearly have no idea what's happening in the world, so just stay under your rock and don't say anything

@JellyWhopper

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​@@even3293 lol so agro over people on the internet

@even3293

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@AugieTheGaylord only way to get people to think on here, or at least making them feel ashamed of their beliefs makes it worth it

IDubbbz literally becoming the new Will Smith

Remember when Xavier called that Jewish elden ring GOTY kid a nazi

My biggest issue with this is those texts. They were not good and I'm confused why people think they are clear professional communication. Clear professional communication would be "you can hang out with this person, but if you post stuff with them leading up to th event we will have to remove you from the lineup. We dont want to do that, but having him associated with this event is not something we can afford" he was dancing around it, and if he was juat straight up then froggy would not have had that ammunition.

LDubbbz is just mad that Sam Hyde cast an Etsy spell on his marriage

im actually quite thankful to idubbbz now that i think about it he was funny then decided hes too "mature" to be funny decided to dunk on someone ina documentary backfired and introduced me into sam hydes content.

I can't believe this is happening to Ian "puppet master" idubbbz himself

"Insult his wife for months", These alternate reality goons realized that Sam Hyde do not participate in the Creator Clash right?, and Ian after several DM couldn't give a straight answer to the simple question. Also that's not Brandon Buckingham in the breastplate, that's Sam Hyde at TED talk.

Why did he even include the texts in the video!? It's practically conforming that he banned him cause he was friends with someone he doesn't like, did he think this is a gotcha moment? That's hilarious.

@Austin.Kilgore

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Well I mean he literally said “The main reason Froggy was kicked from the card was for collaborating with Sam Hyde” to start it all off. Lol So I don’t think he’s trying to hide that fact… pathetic as it may be.

I dont have much of a problem with him not wanting to associate with someone that spends time with an “enemy.” He asked for a clear yes or no three times and didn’t get one. You literally cant punish someone for doing something you didn’t warn them against.

Brandon buckingham wearing a chest plate lol 😂 Blowey you kill me dude